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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

karkauai
 

Hi John.  Mine is on the Starbord side, pushing the control knob foreword to furl and aft to unfurl.  There were no sails on Kristy when I bought her, but I'm guessing it was the same on the original sail because of how the switch works. I don't think it makes any difference.  If you want it to furl when pushing the knob forward, just switch positions of the wires going to the switch.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On May 23, 2017, at 10:12 AM, johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:

 

Ii have received a new genoa from a sailmaker that has suncover on the starboard side of the sail, the original sail from Amel had it on the port side. Could any other Amel Super Maramu owners out there please confirm what side the suncover is on the genoa.

Thanks
John Abercombie
SM391


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sailing logbook

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Wolfgang,

It is very good to hear from you. I hope that you and Friderun are doing well and having fun on your beautiful Amel 54, Elise.

I am sure that there are plenty of different log books. The one we liked is "Yacht Log" from Mystic Seaport Museum Stores. You can see it here: 

It was a gift to us from a family member. 

Very Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970








On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:53 PM, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Bill,
A friend from Mississippi will join us for a sailing in Greece and is looking for a sailing logbook.
Do you have a recommendation,  because we use books from germany. 
We will return end of the summer back to Marina di Ragusa. 
See you back on Amel !
Wolfgang and Friderun  SY Elise Amel 54 #162





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Sailing logbook

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hello Bill,
A friend from Mississippi will join us for a sailing in Greece and is looking for a sailing logbook.
Do you have a recommendation,  because we use books from germany. 
We will return end of the summer back to Marina di Ragusa. 
See you back on Amel !
Wolfgang and Friderun  SY Elise Amel 54 #162





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

Alan Leslie
 

Hmm...interesting.....all four sails on Elyse furl anticlockwise so the UV protection is on the starboard sides of the genoa and the staysail.
Maybe Amel did change it, my Amel Super Maramu 2000 manual shows the genoa furling anticlockwise.
Cheers
Alan
Ellyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternators and house batteries

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Barry and Penny,

we'll go down to the south of France to get the boat out of the water in a couple of weeks. Low pressure removal of the existing antifouling and applyication of coppercoat. I'll let you know how it goes.

cheers
Thomas

On 23 May 2017 at 17:51, Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas,
How is your copper coat project going? I am back on the boat next week and starting to plan my bottom painting.
For my starter battery I know that I have a 12 volt alternator on my main engine, I think that the generator also has a 12 volt alternator. I also have a 12 volt solar panel charging my starter battery separate from my 24 volt panels. My main engine has a separate 24 volt charger for the house batteries.
I carry a 230 volt / 12 volt charger and a 230volt / 24 volt charger.
Plan 'A' If my starter battery died I would disconnect 2 of the 12 volt house batteries and use one to start my main engine or the generator.
Best Regards 

Barry and Penny
"Lady Penelope II"
AMEL 54  #17


On May 23, 2017, at 3:15 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Thomas,
   I think that is possible because, on my SM37,  the main engine has two alternators,  one is 24v(for house batteries) and the other is 12v(for starter batteries).   On the generator there is also a 12v alternator for the same starter batteries.

I also have a 24v on the shaft but I think that is outside the topic.

The previous owners staged jumper cables to connect the 24v house bank to the 12v starter bank in emergency to start one of the motors.  They claim this is safe for short time to start motor....

Olivier might know more

Regards John

John Clark
SM 37 Vent de Soleil
Charlotte Amalie, St. THOMAS

On May 23, 2017 10:09 AM, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi all,

I was reading a Sept 2015 discussion between Bill Rouse and Colin Streeter to learn about the topic of having a 24/12DC converter (not cheap!) or a 12V/230AC charger in case the starter battery requires charging without either engines running.

So the alternators are the sole charging devices for the starter battery. But they are used to charge the house battery bank too, right? How is that achieved then, given the difference in voltage? 

Thanks in advance for shedding some light

Thomas
--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France





--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


Interfacing B&G Analogue displays to Raymarine system

Terence Singh
 

A few years ago we upgraded Libby's Electronics to a Raymarine E127 Chartplotter, HD Color Radar and Raymarine P79 Depth transducer. Our Autopilot is the EV-100. We network our COMAR AIS via a Shipmodul MiniPlex 3 multiplexer.


This system has worked well, technical support is good and the 3 year warranty was the deciding factor of us.


I would like to find out if it is possible to interface the original B&G displays to this system. I do like the simplicity and ease of looking at four separate analogue displays which are all in perfect working order.

The original B&G Hydra2000 computer is still in place and works.


Any guidance or help is appreciated.


Terry&Dena

SV Libby SM#196

Maple Bay, BC



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternators and house batteries

Barry Connor
 

Hi Thomas,
How is your copper coat project going? I am back on the boat next week and starting to plan my bottom painting.
For my starter battery I know that I have a 12 volt alternator on my main engine, I think that the generator also has a 12 volt alternator. I also have a 12 volt solar panel charging my starter battery separate from my 24 volt panels. My main engine has a separate 24 volt charger for the house batteries.
I carry a 230 volt / 12 volt charger and a 230volt / 24 volt charger.
Plan 'A' If my starter battery died I would disconnect 2 of the 12 volt house batteries and use one to start my main engine or the generator.
Best Regards 

Barry and Penny
"Lady Penelope II"
AMEL 54  #17


On May 23, 2017, at 3:15 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Thomas,
   I think that is possible because, on my SM37,  the main engine has two alternators,  one is 24v(for house batteries) and the other is 12v(for starter batteries).   On the generator there is also a 12v alternator for the same starter batteries.

I also have a 24v on the shaft but I think that is outside the topic.

The previous owners staged jumper cables to connect the 24v house bank to the 12v starter bank in emergency to start one of the motors.  They claim this is safe for short time to start motor....

Olivier might know more

Regards John

John Clark
SM 37 Vent de Soleil
Charlotte Amalie, St. THOMAS

On May 23, 2017 10:09 AM, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,

I was reading a Sept 2015 discussion between Bill Rouse and Colin Streeter to learn about the topic of having a 24/12DC converter (not cheap!) or a 12V/230AC charger in case the starter battery requires charging without either engines running.

So the alternators are the sole charging devices for the starter battery. But they are used to charge the house battery bank too, right? How is that achieved then, given the difference in voltage? 

Thanks in advance for shedding some light

Thomas
--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France



Re: Dispute with sailmaker

Dave_Benjamin
 

As a sailmaker myself, I'm going to chime in here....

I work extensively with clients that are quite some distance away, so I'm accustomed to working remotely. Had you ordered from my company, I would have asked what color the suncover should be and what side it should be installed on. 

On my own Maramu, which had been retrofitted with a Nirvana electric furler in 1985, it really didn't matter what side I put the suncover on since I could select the direction of furling with the switch. I can understand if you have labels for furling and unfurling that you would want to retain the suncover on the same side. 

I wouldn't have the sailmaker change the suncover at this point though. It will result in many extra holes in the sail. Perhaps he'll offer some financial recompense in exchange for you having to remember to move the switch in opposite direction.

Good luck. 

Dave Benjamin
Founder and President, Island Planet Sails LLC


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salvage 1989 Maramu Announcement

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ross,

That is a noble cause.

I know of a Super Maramu that was totaled twice and cosmetically repaired on the first occasion...and is currently listed for sale as a quality built Amel that can cross oceans safely.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:57 AM, rossny@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Christian,

Thanks for your reply and concern but I would like to clarify... the insurance company owns the boat
 (they payed off my policy and took my boat) and I'm not trying to sell her. By posting on this site
 I'm trying to get someone who needs the sailing components to buy her so that some "boat salvage
 and restoration" person or company does not get the chance to do a cos metic "repair" and get
 somebody hurt or dead. If the boat is stripped of the sailing stuff then it cannot be sold to be used as
 an Amel Blue Water Sailing Machine ... only a liveaboard or scuttled and maybe part of an artificial reef.
The best to all you living the dream....,
Ross




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salvage 1989 Maramu Announcement

rossny@mail.com
 

Hi Christian,
Thanks for your reply and concern but I would like to clarify... the insurance company owns the boat
 (they payed off my policy and took my boat) and I'm not trying to sell her. By posting on this site
 I'm trying to get someone who needs the sailing components to buy her so that some "boat salvage
 and restoration" person or company does not get the chance to do a cosmetic "repair" and get
 somebody hurt or dead. If the boat is stripped of the sailing stuff then it cannot be sold to be used as
 an Amel Blue Water Sailing Machine ... only a liveaboard or scuttled and maybe part of an artificial reef.
The best to all you living the dream....,
Ross


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternators and house batteries

Sv Garulfo
 


Absolutely, much appreciated as always!

Thanks a lot

Thomas


On Tue, 23 May 2017 at 16:04, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The main engine has two alternators...one for the starter battery at 12VDC and one for house batteries at 24VDC. The generator has one alternator at 12VDC for the starter battery and also will power 230VAC battery chargers that charge the house batteries at 24VDC. 

Does this answer your question?


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On May 23, 2017 9:09 AM, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,

I was reading a Sept 2015 discussion between Bill Rouse and Colin Streeter to learn about the topic of having a 24/12DC converter (not cheap!) or a 12V/230AC charger in case the starter battery requires charging without either engines running.

So the alternators are the sole charging devices for the starter battery. But they are used to charge the house battery bank too, right? How is that achieved then, given the difference in voltage? 

Thanks in advance for shedding some light

Thomas
--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bill,

Interesting.

I just check the Main and Mizzen, and as for my Genoa they also furl in anti-clockwise - just like the graphic shows:
http://nikimat.com/amel_caraibes/joysticks_3.jpg

Every time I have a doubt I refer to the owner manual.
http://nikimat.com/amel_super_maramu_2000_manual.pdf

Picture 20 on Page 37 confirm the same direction of the graphic.
Strange enough Picture 25 on Page 41 almost made me think the opposite (let me know what you think)
Therefore picture 46 on page 56 shows clearly you furl both the Genoa and Balloner counter-clockwise.

Seem strange that Amel would do a graphic not accurate…

May be they decided to change furling from anti-clockwise to clockwise… (and then not bother changing the graphic?).

Not that is really important, but I wonder if Olivier or Joel have some knowledge on that.

Alexandre




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On Tue, 5/23/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 9:50 AM


 









Alex,
In your case the furler switch and
the graphic is the same as #387, but the rotation of the
furler is different. When #387 furler switch (Main or Genoa)
is pushed forward, the rotation is clockwise.
Most of the furlers I have seen
rotate clockwise to furl.
I wonder if Amel changed this in
later model SMs, or your previous owner changed
yours?
Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas
Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel
School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island,
TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

Massimo Vecchietti
 

Mine Lee Sail  Genoa have on starboard.
Max
SM 86 Patchouli II 

Il 23 Mag 2017 5:12 PM, "johnabo2003" <no_reply@...> ha scritto:
 

Ii have received a new genoa from a sailmaker that has suncover on the starboard side of the sail, the original sail from Amel had it on the port side. Could any other Amel Super Maramu owners out there please confirm what side the suncover is on the genoa.

Thanks
John Abercombie
SM391


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

Ian Park
 

Could be the previous owner cleaned and replaced the switch in the wrong orientation. Just loose and rotate 180.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

In your case the furler switch and the graphic is the same as #387, but the rotation of the furler is different. When #387 furler switch (Main or Genoa) is pushed forward, the rotation is clockwise.

Most of the furlers I have seen rotate clockwise to furl.

I wonder if Amel changed this in later model SMs, or your previous owner changed yours?

Best,


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Bill,

To unfurl, I pull the switch toward stern.
To furl I just the switch toward the bow.
Which seems logical to me and this is also what the drawing show.

Alexandre



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On Tue, 5/23/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 9:38 AM


 









Alex,
Do
you push the furler switch forward to fuel as the graphic on
the control indicates?


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander
Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island,
TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   
On May 23, 2017 9:34 AM,
"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Hello John,



Mine is on the Starboard side.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA



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On Tue, 5/23/17, johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 9:12 AM





 



















Ii have received a new genoa from a sailmaker that

has suncover on the starboard side of the sail, the
original

sail from Amel had it on the port side. Could any other
Amel

Super Maramu owners out there please confirm what side
the

suncover is on the genoa.







Thanks



John Abercombie



SM391






































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternators and house batteries

Nick Carter, Associate Broker; Jack Lingo Realtor, 302.228.NICK (6425) <nickcarter@...>
 

I am trying to determine the PHRF handicap for a 1986 Amel Mango 52' in the mid-Atlantic region for summer racing season.
Could anyone help out. 
​Thank you,

Nick Carter
Handicapper for LYC Beer Can Fleet

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:15 AM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas,
   I think that is possible because, on my SM37,  the main engine has two alternators,  one is 24v(for house batteries) and the other is 12v(for starter batteries).   On the generator there is also a 12v alternator for the same starter batteries.

I also have a 24v on the shaft but I think that is outside the topic.

The previous owners staged jumper cables to connect the 24v house bank to the 12v starter bank in emergency to start one of the motors.  They claim this is safe for short time to start motor....

Olivier might know more

Regards John

John Clark
SM 37 Vent de Soleil
Charlotte Amalie, St. THOMAS

On May 23, 2017 10:09 AM, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi all,

I was reading a Sept 2015 discussion between Bill Rouse and Colin Streeter to learn about the topic of having a 24/12DC converter (not cheap!) or a 12V/230AC charger in case the starter battery requires charging without either engines running.

So the alternators are the sole charging devices for the starter battery. But they are used to charge the house battery bank too, right? How is that achieved then, given the difference in voltage? 

Thanks in advance for shedding some light

Thomas
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GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap d'Agde, France





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternators and house batteries

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Same as John,
On the SM2K, the Volvo engine has 2 Alternators.
a 12 Volt to charge the starting battery (which will start the engine and generator)
and a 24 volt that will charge the battery bank.
The generator has a 12 volt alternator (to charge the starting battery).

Personally I carry an additional 12 volt automotive battery charger to charge a spare (not connected) starting battery (in case of lightning).
Prior every trip, I recharge the spare battery.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA



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On Tue, 5/23/17, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternators and house batteries
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 9:15 AM


 









Hi Thomas,   I think
that is possible because, on my SM37,  the main engine has
two alternators,  one is 24v(for house batteries) and the
other is 12v(for starter batteries).   On the generator
there is also a 12v alternator for the same starter
batteries.
I also have
a 24v on the shaft but I think that is outside the
topic.
The previous
owners staged jumper cables to connect the 24v house bank to
the 12v starter bank in emergency to start one of the
motors.  They claim this is safe for short time to start
motor....
Olivier
might know more
Regards John
John ClarkSM 37 Vent de
SoleilCharlotte Amalie, St. THOMAS

On May 23, 2017 10:09 AM,
"SV Garulfo svgarulfo@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Hi all,
I
was reading a Sept 2015 discussion between Bill Rouse and
Colin Streeter to learn about the topic of having a 24/12DC
converter (not cheap!) or a 12V/230AC charger in case the
starter battery requires charging without either engines
running.
So the
alternators are the sole charging devices for the starter
battery. But they are used to charge the house battery bank
too, right? How is that achieved then, given the difference
in voltage? 
Thanks
in advance for shedding some light
Thomas--

GARULFOAmel 54 #122
Cap
d'Agde, France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

Do you push the furler switch forward to fuel as the graphic on the control indicates?


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On May 23, 2017 9:34 AM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello John,

Mine is on the Starboard side.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Island Water World Marina, Sint Maarten, NA

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On Tue, 5/23/17, johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dispute with sailmaker
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017, 9:12 AM


 









Ii have received a new genoa from a sailmaker that
has suncover on the starboard side of the sail, the original
sail from Amel had it on the port side. Could any other Amel
Super Maramu owners out there please confirm what side the
suncover is on the genoa.



Thanks

John Abercombie

SM391