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Re: Instalation SSB

sbmesasailor
 

Rafa,

You are getting plenty of good advice from the other members of this group.  The only thing I would add is after you get the system installed, don't try to operate it in a marina.  There is too much interference and you'll think you did something wrong.  I installed ours in San Diego and it wouldn't work until we we were about a mile outside the marina.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121
Shelter Bay, Panama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instalation SSB

Massimo Vecchietti
 

...I am very satisfied of this radio ,connected to a Pactor III.
I have used  the  starboard back-stay as antenna and AT 140  tunner
Normal transformer from 24v to 12 v.
Only AT 140 is connected to ground
Max
SY Patchouli II  n 84

Il 14 Giu 2017 5:24 PM, "rcavie" <no_reply@...> ha scritto:
 

Hi Max

I have the same Icom 706 MK2g and the tunner AT 120.
I will install my radio and I would like if you have a special converter from 24 to 12 V. What kind of antenna do you use, Shakespeare?  
Pleas let me know your experience with this radio.
I´ve got some information about grounding from others amel owners.
Thank you very much
Rafael 
Agapanthe
SM2k246


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instalation SSB

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Rafel,

The Icom 24-13.6VDC Converter used by Amel on SSB installations is difficult to find. Normal price is around $800-$1,000USD.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970






On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, rcavie <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hi Max

I have the same Icom 706 MK2g and the tunner AT 120.
I will install my radio and I would like if you have a special converter from 24 to 12 V. What kind of antenna do you use, Shakespeare?  
Pleas let me know your experience with this radio.
I´ve got some information about grounding from others amel owners.
Thank you very much
Rafael 
Agapanthe
SM2k246



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instalation SSB

rcavie <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Max
I have the same Icom 706 MK2g and the tunner AT 120.
I will install my radio and I would like if you have a special converter from 24 to 12 V. What kind of antenna do you use, Shakespeare?  
Pleas let me know your experience with this radio.
I´ve got some information about grounding from others amel owners.
Thank you very much
Rafael 
Agapanthe
SM2k246


Re: Instalation SSB

greatketch@...
 

Just to be clear, the triatic is ONLY good as the secondary DSC receiver on a radio like the 802 that needs a separate receive-only antenna for its DSC system to work.  As Alan points out, it would be terrible as a main antenna. It is too short for for some of the lower frequency bands, and, unless you put the tuner at the top of the mast, you would lose virtually all of your transmitting power just getting to the top of the mast.

Since the DSC antenna is receive only, I'd bet that just tying to any piece of ungrounded rigging would be just as good as the triatic.  When I installed an 802 on my old boat I used a 16 foot (3.5 m) piece of 14AWG wire hoisted in the rig for the DSC antenna, and it work like a charm.  Harmonie came to us with a 710, which doesn't have the DSC function so no secondary antenna is used.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ

---In amelyachtowners@..., <divanz620@...> wrote :

Interesting...
We have an ICOM710 with an AT130 tuner mounted in the hanging locker at the aft end of the pilot berth. Our antenna is the main mast backstay. The antenna lead goes through the head access to the base of the mizzen mast and up the mast a few feet and out a hole to connect with the insulated main backstay. It works well.
We initially tried the triatic stay, as the Furuno weather fax was connected to it, but it was worse than useless with the ICOM SSB, so when we re-rigged the boat a couple of years ago, the insulated triatic stay went west.
Interestingly, did you know, that none of the Super Maramu rigging is connected to ground ?
So apart from the risk of a crew member getting zapped, connecting the tuner antenna wire to any part of the standing rigging would work a treat! 
We insulated the main backstay to avoid problems with crew getting zapped !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exploded oven inner glass, SuperMaramu

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I could not find the area where the stoves and parts are located.

Would you please send a link?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exploded oven inner glass, SuperMaramu

 

 

Hi all
I believe I am not the only one that has got the inner glass on the oven hatch exploded. It was not a very pleasant experience, luckily we were at anchor and the glass was not that hot but it became like a trillion pieces. 
And of course a spoiled meal.

 

Our oven is an Over Seas Cooker from before June 1998.

 

You can get a new glass from www.eno.fr  Visit their web-site and search for your model and part number. They have a feature to send the request via the web-site but it doesn't work. Instead, send an e-mail to SAV@.... I wrote in english and got an answer in french, but Google translate is a good friend.

 

Price, 40€ incl VAT and freight to Portugal.

 

Regards

Annsofie,

S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998

in Portimao, Algarve, Portugal


Re: Exploded oven inner glass, SuperMaramu

Ian Park
 

Annesofie
It happened once to me. I had removed both the door glasses to clean them. Only one was fully heat proof. I had put them back the wrong way round. It was not an expensive cooker.
Ian
'Ocean Hobo' SN96


Re: Instalation SSB

Alan Leslie
 

Interesting...
We have an ICOM710 with an AT130 tuner mounted in the hanging locker at the aft end of the pilot berth. Our antenna is the main mast backstay. The antenna lead goes through the head access to the base of the mizzen mast and up the mast a few feet and out a hole to connect with the insulated main backstay. It works well.
We initially tried the triatic stay, as the Furuno weather fax was connected to it, but it was worse than useless with the ICOM SSB, so when we re-rigged the boat a couple of years ago, the insulated triatic stay went west.
Interestingly, did you know, that none of the Super Maramu rigging is connected to ground ?
So apart from the risk of a crew member getting zapped, connecting the tuner antenna wire to any part of the standing rigging would work a treat! 
We insulated the main backstay to avoid problems with crew getting zapped !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instalation SSB

Massimo Vecchietti
 

..I have an ICOM 706 MK II G, what is the question?
Max
SM Patchouli II. N.84

Il 13 Giu 2017 11:04 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
 

Rafa,

 

I installed an Icom SSB. What specifically would you like to know?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Puerto Rico

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rcavie
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instalation SSB

 

 

Hello everyone

Does anyone have an SSB ICOM radio installation diagram in SM?

Some tips?

As always I appreciate the help of those who know how

 

Rafa

SM2k246

 


Exploded oven inner glass, SuperMaramu

kanalmamman@...
 

Hi all
I believe I am not the only one that has got the inner glass on the oven hatch exploded. It was not a very pleasant experience, luckily we were at anchor and the glass was not that hot but it became like a trillion pieces. 
And of course a spoiled meal.


Our oven is an Over Seas Cooker from before June 1998.


You can get a new glass from www.eno.fr  Visit their web-site and search for your model and part number. They have a feature to send the request via the web-site but it doesn't work. Instead, send an e-mail to SAV@.... I wrote in english and got an answer in french, but Google translate is a good friend.


Price, 40€ incl VAT and freight to Portugal.


Regards

Annsofie,

S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998

in Portimao, Algarve, Portugal


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery Options in Santorin

Ian Park
 

David,
Sorry, the last message was meant for Eric!
Eric, hope you reach a good decision for your Santorin.

Ian 'Ocean Hobo' SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery Options in Santorin

Ian Park
 

David,
I had one battery out of four house batteries die just before leaving Cape Verde for Barbados. I removed it. The other 3 x 110 ah batteries were fine. I replaced all the house batteries when we eventually reached Martinique. What I learnt was that I had to ensure more frequently that the batteries were charged up when they got below 80%, but the bank of 3 didn't take as long to fully charge.
You didn't mention whether you still have the original Santorin charging regime or if you have added solar, wind or gen set. Also will you operate mainly from a marina with shore power or self sufficient anchorages.
A bigger bank may last longer, but takes longer to charge to 100% - important if you want maximum life from the bank.
Just another dimension to add to the decision making.
All the best.

Ian 'Ocean Hobo' SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cruzpro VAF110 shore power & generator monitor

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill, you are right. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jun 13, 2017 9:14 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill R. means to say kW-hours... not kW.


Kilowatts are easy, they are just volts*amps and are an instantaneous measure of power use. No need for a meter to display kW. It goes up and down exactly as the amperage does.  We do NOT pay for electricity by the kilowatt.

Kilowatt-hours are a very different beast, and is the integrated sum of total energy usage, it never goes down, only up.  It IS how we pay for electricity.

Similar name, but VERY different measurement and very commonly confused.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Beko No. WMB51022YU Washing machine in Martinique

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

Me too...I guess sarcasm didn't come through in my email.  It is unfortunate when someone says it's here, but never says where here is!


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jun 13, 2017 9:14 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'd hope he would share with all of us and not just "trade" for a book chapter.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Instalation SSB

eric freedman
 

Rafa,

The new Icom tuners are amazingly waterproof. I would mount it right below the antenna. In addition the length of the wire from the tuner to the antenna is also is added into the total length if the antenna.

 

 

Mine is 15 years old and works like new.. Do you have dynaplates on your hull?  I also remember something about a wire connected to non SSB radios connected to the boats bonding at the nav station, If I remember correctly this has to be disconnected.  Do you have a piece of copper foil sticking out of the hull on the starboard side in the aft locker above the shelf?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Instalation SSB

 

 

Hi Rafa,

 

There is not a lot of things unique about an Amel SSB installation over other boats, but I have a couple of comments on things to consider.  I did not do the installation on our boat, it come with.  So I have no pride of invention, just reporting what works.

 

We have the long whip antenna mounted on the starboard quarter.  The base plate was mounted on deck and the support was on the rail  When we installed the arch, we moved the base to the transom and the brace to the arch.  It works well either way.

 

On our boat the antenna tuner was mounted on the shelf in the aft deck locker.  If I was doing it over, I'd mount the tuner in a cabinet inside the aft cabin.  Icom tuners are rated as waterproof, but keeping them rigorously dry is a better plan. and an extra foot or two of lead wire would not be a significant performance issue.  If you want to use the rigging as the antenna, it gets a bit more complex, but still doable, and the physical arrangement will be different.

 

You'll need a 24 -> 12 volt convertor that is capable of holding the voltage at 13.4 volts at the full rated power draw of the radio if you want the best transmit performance.  That's a lot.  40 Amps if I remember right.

 

If you are installing an 802, using the triatic stay as the DSC antenna has a lot to recommend it.

 

There is a lot of black magic on antenna installations.  You'll get a lot a VERY conflicting advice, and everybody will claim to know best.  I am not an antenna expert, but it seems to me copying an installation that works well is a good idea.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160 Harmonie

Highlands, NJ

 


Re: Instalation SSB

greatketch@...
 

Hi Rafa,

There is not a lot of things unique about an Amel SSB installation over other boats, but I have a couple of comments on things to consider.  I did not do the installation on our boat, it come with.  So I have no pride of invention, just reporting what works.

We have the long whip antenna mounted on the starboard quarter.  The base plate was mounted on deck and the support was on the rail  When we installed the arch, we moved the base to the transom and the brace to the arch.  It works well either way.

On our boat the antenna tuner was mounted on the shelf in the aft deck locker.  If I was doing it over, I'd mount the tuner in a cabinet inside the aft cabin.  Icom tuners are rated as waterproof, but keeping them rigorously dry is a better plan. and an extra foot or two of lead wire would not be a significant performance issue.  If you want to use the rigging as the antenna, it gets a bit more complex, but still doable, and the physical arrangement will be different.

You'll need a 24 -> 12 volt convertor that is capable of holding the voltage at 13.4 volts at the full rated power draw of the radio if you want the best transmit performance.  That's a lot.  40 Amps if I remember right.

If you are installing an 802, using the triatic stay as the DSC antenna has a lot to recommend it.

There is a lot of black magic on antenna installations.  You'll get a lot a VERY conflicting advice, and everybody will claim to know best.  I am not an antenna expert, but it seems to me copying an installation that works well is a good idea.

Bill Kinney
SM160 Harmonie
Highlands, NJ


Re: Beko No. WMB51022YU Washing machine in Martinique

greatketch@...
 

I'd hope he would share with all of us and not just "trade" for a book chapter.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cruzpro VAF110 shore power & generator monitor

greatketch@...
 

Bill R. means to say kW-hours... not kW.

Kilowatts are easy, they are just volts*amps and are an instantaneous measure of power use. No need for a meter to display kW. It goes up and down exactly as the amperage does.  We do NOT pay for electricity by the kilowatt.

Kilowatt-hours are a very different beast, and is the integrated sum of total energy usage, it never goes down, only up.  It IS how we pay for electricity.

Similar name, but VERY different measurement and very commonly confused.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Highlands, NJ


Beko No. WMB51022YU Washing machine in Martinique

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

I read your posting about finding a washer replacement in Martinique for the Amel54.

I will trade you the written procedures and photos on how to remove and replace the washer for you giving me the exact name, address and phone of the "big electronics mall in Ft. de France / Martinique." As you can imagine, I would have to fly to Martinique and rent a car to be able to try to find the "big electronics mall in Ft. de France / Martinique."

I enlarged the photo and there is a Darty Brochure on top of the washer. Was it Darty?

Let me know, a phone number would be nice.

Thanks,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Washing machine replacement Amel 54, Super Maramu 2000 plus others

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

I found a Beko washing machine at the big electronics mall in Ft. de France / Martinique which fits exactly the AMEL54 space thanks to its 84x60x40cm size. It's a Beko with the easy to remember WMB51022YU model name.

Does anyone have experience with this brand / model? In my understanding the exact size Bosch replacment is no longer available. So, most likely, I'll go and be the testdummy for Beko..

Alex Ramseyer
SY NOSTRESS
AMEL 54 #15


On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:55 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
This is the exact replacement for an Amel 54 washer. 


http://www.ubaldi.com/electromenager/lavage/lave-linge/bosch/lave-linge-frontal-bosch--wlx24460ff--240803.php

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On May 29, 2017 13:06, "Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Dear Bill,
thank you for sharing all your valuable information. The size of the washing machine is the same that you mentioned on the AMEL 53. So I think it comes down to finding a way to get it (currently in Martinique but in Grenada for the HS). I'm not in a hurry as this is not a critical part.
Best Regards,
Alex Ramseyer
SY NO STRESS, AMEL54,#15


On Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:14 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from Bill & Judy Rouse included below]
The following will likely help you find a clothes washer replacement for either an Amel 54 or a Super Maramu 2000, and possibly other Amels since Amel has typically used house hold washers:

Here are links to some photos in the photo section of the Amel Owners Group. These photos are from an ad by www.unieuro.it

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/ groups/amelyachtowners/photos/ albums/911367118/lightbox/ 876040189?orderBy=ordinal& sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL# zax/876040189


The clothes washer in a SM2000 is a standard EU size which is 85X40X60cm (HxWxD). I have not seen a size for the front loading washer on the 54.

When we were in Barcelona Spain there were about 6 or 7 choices of brands/models that would fit perfectly. We bought a Bosch Series 4. The model number plate is attached to this email.

Here is a link to Unieuro 's current washer offerings: 

I am sure that you can find a freight forwarder that can work with Unieuro, and you may be able to find the right size for an Amel 54...I wish I knew the size.

BTW, our clothes washer was working fine when we replaced it at 13 years old. We replaced it for two reasons: it was old and we were in a part of the world where replacement was easy. Consider this if you are in the EU and about to depart.

If someone is suc cessful in arranging purchase and shipment using a freight forwarder from EU to North America or the Caribbean, please share the details with everyone here. Details like contact names, phone, costs, etc.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550