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Re: unending flow
greatketch@...
Kent,
Your problem is not from a check valve, but from air that is entrained under the boat filling the seachest. Like every design decision on a boat, the seachest has its good points--and its problems. One of the issues is that when sailing, it fills with air. If you have ever put a video camera under your boat when sailing, you've seen a steady stream of bubbles flowing from bow to stern even at relatively modest speeds. Every one of those bubbles that manages to go under the main intake thru-hull rises up and displaces water from the seachest. After a fairly short time, the seachest is full of air. This means that any pump drawing out of the seachest, needs to clear a fairly significant volume of air before it can pump water. I suspect this dry run time on every startup underway is part of the reason so many people have had such troublesomely short lifespans from impellers on their gensets. Of course, this happens with every thru-hull, no matter if there is a seachest or not. The issue with the seachest is that it can hold a LOT more air than a simple hose connection. The previous owner of Harmonie installed a very small pump plumbed from the seachest manifold to to the cockpit scupper that can be used to clear this air before running either of the engines. I think with the toilet flush pump, you'll just have to live with the delay, unless somebody has a solution I haven't thought of yet! Bill Kinney SM160 Harmonie Highlands, NJ ---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote : I have a different probem with my aft head on Kristy. When at sea, the fill pump takes forever to start putting water into the bowl. This is not a problem when at anchor, and it doesn't matter which tack I'm on when at sea. There is a strainer with very fine mesh in the intake line that looks like an orange mushroom. The stainless mesh is damaged and needs to be replaced, but it's acting like there is a one-way valve in the intake line that has failed. Is there such a valve? if so, where? Any other ideas? Does anyone know the manufacturer of the "orange mushroom" strainer in the intake line? A source for the stainless strainer mesh? I should say that on Kristy, (SM 243) there are separate thru-hulls for the seawater fill pumps located in the little "hallway" just inboard of the heads. She does NOT have the long hoses from the sea chest/manifold in the engine room. Thanks for any suggestions. Kent SM243 Kristy Currently St. Michaels, MD, USA for the hurricane season.
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Re: Boom Boat Name Lettering Height?
John,
Great reminder! We will bring it. I have requested expedited USCG documentation also. Alexandre, Thanks for the quick information! I used a previous post from you to size the lettering on the stern. I can now order our vinyl letters. Denise and Mark McGovern S/V Cara Martinique (Soon to be Deale, MD)
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boom Boat Name Lettering Height?
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good afternoon Denise & Marck,
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Congratulations for owning SM2K #440 I just measure the letters on my boom, then are 4.5 Inch (or 11.5 cm) tall. Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Port de Gustavia, Saint Barthelemy, FWI --------------------------------------------
On Thu, 6/22/17, Mcgovern.denise@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boom Boat Name Lettering Height? To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, June 22, 2017, 3:31 PM Hello, This is my first post. Mark and I have purchased SM #440 and are excited to make her our own. Does anyone have the boom lettering height? I would like to bring the name lettering with me to get her ready for her trip north. Thanks,Denise and Mark McGovernS/V CaraMartinique (Soon to be Deale, MD)
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boom Boat Name Lettering Height?
John Clark
Congratulations guys! Don't have the answer to your answer right at this moment, I know Bill does, but don't forget to bring an American flag with you when you are ready to sail...don't ask me why I say this. ;) Regards and good luck! John Clark SV Annie. (fmr "Vent de Soleil") Charleston, SC
On Jun 22, 2017 4:31 PM, "Mcgovern.denise@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Onan Zinc and Outdated Marine Electronics Repairs
pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
Hello to all.
Recently, I went to change the zinc on the Onan Generator, and when I unbolted the plug, I found the old zinc corroded in place. At first I thought I would drill it out and replace it with a new one. Then the thought occurred to me, “why not just wait until it dissolves on its own”? Any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated. I also wanted to pass along some information. Recently I began to have trouble with an old Raymarine RL80C Chart Plotter. I contacted Dan Gerhardt who had been recommended on this forum, but he doesn’t repair chart plotters. He recommended I call Steve Senft at Jaytron in Florida (steve at marineelectronics dot com - 941-748-1941). After trouble shooting things on the phone with him, I ended up sending the unit to him. Unfortunately, after spending a number of hours on it, it was determined it was too far gone. However, he sold me a used unit he had in house for about the same cost as the repair would have been. Based on my experience, I can highly recommend him for those of you who have some old equipment that you may not be ready to replace just yet, and need repair assistance. He spent a good deal of time with me on the phone and via email, and helped me get what I needed for a very fair price. He also moved me up in line so I would have a unit back in my hands, in time to travel back to the boat this weekend. I hope someone will find this information useful and thank you in advance for any responses regarding the Onan Zinc. All the best, Paul Stascavage SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn Saint Lucia RitaKathryn.com
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Boom Boat Name Lettering Height?
Hello, This is my first post. Mark and I have purchased SM #440 and are excited to make her our own. Does anyone have the boom lettering height? I would like to bring the name lettering with me to get her ready for her trip north. Thanks, Denise and Mark McGovern S/V Cara Martinique (Soon to be Deale, MD)
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery charger for SM
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Bill and Danny,
Thanks. I have emailed Reya in Toulon , sent a photo and details of the problem so hope they will be able to fix it.
If not, I will come back to this site to see if anyone else has recommendations for alternatives. Unfortunately, Reya now make a 40 amp whose dimensions are too big for my space or a 20 amp which I could fit if I put it sideways, but I'm not sure how the fan would like that.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Italy
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 22 June 2017 18:33:39 To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery charger for SM Ian,
Try the following contacts:
Best,
CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:52 AM,
simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] unending flow
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Jeff, I have been trying to get the specifics on the solenoid fresh water flush valve on your 54. I have only been able to verify that it is Burkert type 6213, but not sure of the exact variant. If I do not get back to you in the next 48 hours, I suggest doing the following: Using the attached drawing, disassemble the valve, clean it and reassemble it using silicone grease on all rubber-like parts. And/Or - Order a replacement from Amel taking a photo of the numbers on the valve. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:18 AM, jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] unending flow
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Mohamad, Now, you have part of it...see the following link: http://www.burkert-usa.com/en/type/6213 But, there are 20-30 variations of the 6213 and none of the variations list 125667. So, maybe it is discontinued and/or replaced. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:42 PM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] unending flow
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi bill; the number I posted was right off the part. However, since you posted that you could not locate it, I checked again and there is also a number 6213A on the part that maybe the correct number that burkert goes by. I can post a picture of any one is interested. Respectfully; Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:31 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery charger for SM
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Ian, Try the following contacts:
Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:52 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] unending flow
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Bob, I believe that Amel did not use the Jabsco brand control valve which is shown in that video, rather used a much better German made control valve made by "Burkert and the part number is 125657." Amel has a history of using Burkert control valves. The solenoid for the cooking gas(z) is made by Burkert and it rarely fails...and it costs 3-4 times more than the typical West Marine solenoid valve. It is likely that the BURkert can also be cleaned. Mohammad and Aty on B&B Kokomo is the one that gave me the part number of 125657, which I have not been able to locate. I think something is wrong with that part number. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:18 PM, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] unending flow
rossirossix4
Jabsco has a video on how to repair the solenoid if something is stuck in the valve causing the problem you describe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAIZmZDPykw
Bob, KAIMI SM 429
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery charger for SM
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Ian and Judy. Sent from my Vodafone Smart
On 22 Jun 2017 5:24 p.m., "Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alwgrip paint for the mast - FOUND
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
I searched through my records and found the following: AwlGrip Mast Paint for Super Maramu:
Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Battery charger for SM
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi all,
After 17 years of valiant service our 30 amp, 24v charger has died. The green light still shines brightly and the fan works, but no output. A local electrician has pronounced a problem with the circuit board. I have written to Reya to see if they will repair it, but they are not known as quick correspondents.
The thing I love about the Dolphin charger is that it is small and light ( less than 5 kg ). To replace it means finding another which is no more than 28cm high and 34 wide. The depth isn't critical.
Has anyone had success in
a) getting Reya to repair an old Dolphin, or
b) finding a suitable alternative which can fir in the same space ?
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Fiumicino, Italy
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alwgrip paint for the mast
John, I can't comment on older boats, just when I asked Amel, they gave me the name and it matched.
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Bob R3 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Thursday, June 22, 2017, 05:00, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners]
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Re: Head Issue on SM
I have a different probem with my aft head on Kristy. When at sea, the fill pump takes forever to start putting water into the bowl. This is not a problem when at anchor, and it doesn't matter which tack I'm on when at sea. There is a strainer with very fine mesh in the intake line that looks like an orange mushroom. The stainless mesh is damaged and needs to be replaced, but it's acting like there is a one-way valve in the intake line that has failed. Is there such a valve? if so, where? Any other ideas? Does anyone know the manufacturer of the "orange mushroom" strainer in the intake line? A source for the stainless strainer mesh? I should say that on Kristy, (SM 243) there are separate thru-hulls for the seawater fill pumps located in the little "hallway" just inboard of the heads. She does NOT have the long hoses from the sea chest/manifold in the engine room. Thanks for any suggestions. Kent SM243 Kristy Currently St. Michaels, MD, USA for the hurricane season.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] unending flow
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Jeff, Are you sure that it is a 125657? I searched http://www.burkert-usa.com and was unable to find that part number. I sent burkert-usa.com and email requesting information, but also wanted to verify the part number with you. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:33 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] unending flow
Mohammad Shirloo
Jeff; The manufacturer of the valve on Kokomo is Burkert and the part number is 125657. It is a 24V 1/2" valve female threaded both sides. We could not find the same in Turkey quickly, so a local marine supplier was able to find an equivalent with exact same electrical and plumbing connections. 1/2 hour of work and so far everything is working fine. Respectfully; Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
On Jun 22, 2017, at 4:24 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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