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Re: Volvo D2-75 for a SuperMaramu

greatketch@...
 

Ian and Judy,

I have no personal experience with the D2-75, but it does look like a good match for the SM.

I like the all mechanical operation.

I like the low end torque.  I find this to be the biggest issue with my TMD22.  Sometimes when bucking into a strong headwind, I have a choice between "too slow" or "too fast", and response to short busts of throttle when in close quarters is less than I am used to.

I like that it seems to be a good fit in the existing engine footprint.

I like that it is naturally aspirated.  

If you do decide to go with that engine, I hope you'll post about your experiences.  It would be valuable to those of us with aging powerplants who are considering repowering.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Edgartown, Martha's Vineyard.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning

greatketch@...
 

And if that relief valve fails to close all the way due to a bit of debris or a weak spring it can lead to low oil pressure, especially at low rpm. 

The oil pumps on most all engines will produce way more flow and pressure at higher RPM then the engine needs. When it rises above specification, the relief valve opens and keeps it steady.  That is why you typically see oil pressure build as the rpm rises, but only to a point.  Once the valve begins to open, it stays pretty constant after that as the RPM rises.

On my TMD22 at idle oil pressure is about 20psi.  By the time you get to 1500rpm it reaches 55psi and then rises no higher all the way to full speed.  That is the result of the oil pressure relief valve opening.

I do agree with Bill R. that checking the sender is the place to start.  Making sure the problem is real before tearing into the guts of the engine is a very good idea.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Edgartown, Martha's Vineyard.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <lokiyawl2@...> wrote :

Bill,
  As far as I know, all engines with pressurized oil systems also have a pressure relief valve which bypasses the excess oil at a preset pressure.  I can tell you that if the valve gets stuck closed that it can really make a mess when the oil filter blows off. (Grin)   In the case of being unsure of an electronic oil pressure reading, I like to connect a mechanical gauge to help eliminate the guessing. 
Best,

James
SV Sueno, Maramu #220


Sent from Samsung Mobile



-------- Original message --------
From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 07-01-2017 1:54 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning


 

I do not believe the D3-110 has any adjustment for oil pressure. It does have a "safety valve," but I am not sure of that valve's function.

I would eliminate #1 before investigating others.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Davits

Dean Gillies
 

Peter,
Did that price include panels, regulator and installation? 
Cheers
Dean
Amel 54 TBD

On 1 Jul 2017, at 8:20 pm, Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Tony, I paid $6,000 in 2013. Excellent product worked well in my circumnavigation.
Peter Forbes 
Carango Amel 54#035
Grenada in hurricane cradle 


On 1 Jul 2017, at 15:10, Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Many thanks John - this was useful.

Tony. 54 no. 102



From: "John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Davits

 
Hi Tony,
   Several of us have recently purchased arches from Emek.  I am sure others will share their experiences. 

I have a Super Maramu and paid $4250 for the arch without electronics.  Shipping to Ft Lauderdale was an additional $800.  The arch was shipped along with two other Amel customers' arches so shipping cost was shared.
I opted out of the electronics because the cost here in the US was much much lower for same equipment.

Craftsmanship of the arch is first rate, almost artistic quality.  

 Riza is the fellow to talk to over there. My only complaint is the communication with Riza and the slow delivery.  I commissioned and paid for the arch in January,  assured repeatedly that it would be shipped in a couple of weeks.  I did not receive the arch until the last week of May.  I spoke to other Amel owners and they have had a similar experience with Emek.  

The Emek arch is probably one of the best arches for an Amel, and Emek does deliver, only slow.  


Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Charleston, SC


On Jul 1, 2017 9:00 AM, "Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I believe Emek marine in Gocek, Turkey fabricates an excellent rear arch for an Amel 54 - this provides support for several  solar panels and doubles as davits for a RIB. Does anyone have any idea of the approximate cost of this modification ?

Thanks in advance. Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Davits

Peter Forbes
 

Tony, I paid $6,000 in 2013. Excellent product worked well in my circumnavigation.
Peter Forbes 
Carango Amel 54#035
Grenada in hurricane cradle 


On 1 Jul 2017, at 15:10, Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Many thanks John - this was useful.

Tony. 54 no. 102



From: "John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Davits

 
Hi Tony,
   Several of us have recently purchased arches from Emek.  I am sure others will share their experiences. 

I have a Super Maramu and paid $4250 for the arch without electronics.  Shipping to Ft Lauderdale was an additional $800.  The arch was shipped along with two other Amel customers' arches so shipping cost was shared.
I opted out of the electronics because the cost here in the US was much much lower for same equipment.

Craftsmanship of the arch is first rate, almost artistic quality.  

 Riza is the fellow to talk to over there. My only complaint is the communication with Riza and the slow delivery.  I commissioned and paid for the arch in January,  assured repeatedly that it would be shipped in a couple of weeks.  I did not receive the arch until the last week of May.  I spoke to other Amel owners and they have had a similar experience with Emek.  

The Emek arch is probably one of the best arches for an Amel, and Emek does deliver, only slow.  


Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Charleston, SC


On Jul 1, 2017 9:00 AM, "Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I believe Emek marine in Gocek, Turkey fabricates an excellent rear arch for an Amel 54 - this provides support for several  solar panels and doubles as davits for a RIB. Does anyone have any idea of the approximate cost of this modification ?

Thanks in advance. Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning

James Alton
 

Bill,
  As far as I know, all engines with pressurized oil systems also have a pressure relief valve which bypasses the excess oil at a preset pressure.  I can tell you that if the valve gets stuck closed that it can really make a mess when the oil filter blows off. (Grin)   In the case of being unsure of an electronic oil pressure reading, I like to connect a mechanical gauge to help eliminate the guessing. 
Best,

James
SV Sueno, Maramu #220


Sent from Samsung Mobile



-------- Original message --------
From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 07-01-2017 1:54 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning


 

I do not believe the D3-110 has any adjustment for oil pressure. It does have a "safety valve," but I am not sure of that valve's function.

I would eliminate #1 before investigating others.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 8:07 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks bill. We are approaching Chania in Crete. We have been motor sailing for the past almost 4 hours and no issues at cruising RPMS. (1350 -1500). I have located the oil pressure sensor but cannot get to it with the engine running. Once we dock I can get into it more. I agree with your assessment and the likely issue being item #1.

In my search online it appears that other Volvo Penta owners have experienced this and some have dealt with it by lowering the RPMs slowly.  We'll try this once close in to see if this makes any difference. Do you know if there is a governor/limiter that adjust to the oil pressure to ensure proper flow at all RPMs?

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo

On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@s vbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

My guess in order of probability:
1.) The oil pressure sender needs cleaning and/or replacing, or has a loose or worn wire. 
2.) There is a problem with the computer
3.) The oil pump needs to be replaced
4.) Main bearings worn

I am betting it is number 1. 

BTW, I don't believe that this applies to you, but there is a known issue with a Yanmar that causes an indication of low pressure...there is a "T" that the oil pressure sender screws into. This "T" is known to get clogged and cause low pressure. 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   
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On Jul 1, 2017 03:33, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi everyone;


We left Kythera this morning to head to Crete. About 15 minutes out of Kythera we had sufficient wind so we backed out the engine RPMs from about 1500 to Idle to shut off the engine. We immediately got a low oil pressure warning and a message to shut down the engine. Having had check engine faults before that per the suggestions in the manual  would go away after turning the engine off and then back on again, we tried this with the low oil pressure warning. We got the same warning again. So we shut down the engine and sailed back to our anchorage that we had just left and dropped anchor again. After waiting about 10 more minutes and having reviewed the Volvo manual, we turned the engine on again. We did not have the warning. We then placed the engine in reverse and reved up to 1400 RPMs 4 separate times for about 30 seconds, as if we were setting the anchor. The issue did not reappear.


We de cide d to head out, having good favorable winds. We sailed for about 1 hour before the wind started to die down and we started the engine and started motor sailing. After 30 minutes the wind came back up again so we decided to turn off the engine. When we lowered the RPMs to idle, the low pressure warning light came on again. So we have shutoff the engine and are now sailing with about 7 hours left to Crete. The forecast is for the wind to die down when we get close to,our harbor and we will probably need to motor sail the last couple of hours.


I checked the engine oil before we started me again after we received the warning. The oil and oil filter were changed about 1 month ago with genuine Volvo parts about a month ago. I have not looked through the manuals or done any research yet, since I wanted to,get this post out before we lost connection. If any one knows the location of the oil pressure sensor, I'd appreciate the info since it may just be a loose electrical connection. All ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I do not believe the D3-110 has any adjustment for oil pressure. It does have a "safety valve," but I am not sure of that valve's function.

I would eliminate #1 before investigating others.

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 8:07 AM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks bill. We are approaching Chania in Crete. We have been motor sailing for the past almost 4 hours and no issues at cruising RPMS. (1350 -1500). I have located the oil pressure sensor but cannot get to it with the engine running. Once we dock I can get into it more. I agree with your assessment and the likely issue being item #1.

In my search online it appears that other Volvo Penta owners have experienced this and some have dealt with it by lowering the RPMs slowly.  We'll try this once close in to see if this makes any difference. Do you know if there is a governor/limiter that adjust to the oil pressure to ensure proper flow at all RPMs?

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo

On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@s vbebe.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

My guess in order of probability:
1.) The oil pressure sender needs cleaning and/or replacing, or has a loose or worn wire. 
2.) There is a problem with the computer
3.) The oil pump needs to be replaced
4.) Main bearings worn

I am betting it is number 1. 

BTW, I don't believe that this applies to you, but there is a known issue with a Yanmar that causes an indication of low pressure...there is a "T" that the oil pressure sender screws into. This "T" is known to get clogged and cause low pressure. 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   
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On Jul 1, 2017 03:33, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi everyone;


We left Kythera this morning to head to Crete. About 15 minutes out of Kythera we had sufficient wind so we backed out the engine RPMs from about 1500 to Idle to shut off the engine. We immediately got a low oil pressure warning and a message to shut down the engine. Having had check engine faults before that per the suggestions in the manual  would go away after turning the engine off and then back on again, we tried this with the low oil pressure warning. We got the same warning again. So we shut down the engine and sailed back to our anchorage that we had just left and dropped anchor again. After waiting about 10 more minutes and having reviewed the Volvo manual, we turned the engine on again. We did not have the warning. We then placed the engine in reverse and reved up to 1400 RPMs 4 separate times for about 30 seconds, as if we were setting the anchor. The issue did not reappear.


We de cide d to head out, having good favorable winds. We sailed for about 1 hour before the wind started to die down and we started the engine and started motor sailing. After 30 minutes the wind came back up again so we decided to turn off the engine. When we lowered the RPMs to idle, the low pressure warning light came on again. So we have shutoff the engine and are now sailing with about 7 hours left to Crete. The forecast is for the wind to die down when we get close to,our harbor and we will probably need to motor sail the last couple of hours.


I checked the engine oil before we started me again after we received the warning. The oil and oil filter were changed about 1 month ago with genuine Volvo parts about a month ago. I have not looked through the manuals or done any research yet, since I wanted to,get this post out before we lost connection. If any one knows the location of the oil pressure sensor, I'd appreciate the info since it may just be a loose electrical connection. All ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Davits

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Many thanks John - this was useful.

Tony. 54 no. 102



From: "John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Davits

 
Hi Tony,
   Several of us have recently purchased arches from Emek.  I am sure others will share their experiences. 

I have a Super Maramu and paid $4250 for the arch without electronics.  Shipping to Ft Lauderdale was an additional $800.  The arch was shipped along with two other Amel customers' arches so shipping cost was shared.
I opted out of the electronics because the cost here in the US was much much lower for same equipment.

Craftsmanship of the arch is first rate, almost artistic quality.  

 Riza is the fellow to talk to over there. My only complaint is the communication with Riza and the slow delivery.  I commissioned and paid for the arch in January,  assured repeatedly that it would be shipped in a couple of weeks.  I did not receive the arch until the last week of May.  I spoke to other Amel owners and they have had a similar experience with Emek.  

The Emek arch is probably one of the best arches for an Amel, and Emek does deliver, only slow.  


Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Charleston, SC


On Jul 1, 2017 9:00 AM, "Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
I believe Emek marine in Gocek, Turkey fabricates an excellent rear arch for an Amel 54 - this provides support for several  solar panels and doubles as davits for a RIB. Does anyone have any idea of the approximate cost of this modification ?

Thanks in advance. Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 Davits

John Clark
 

Hi Tony,
   Several of us have recently purchased arches from Emek.  I am sure others will share their experiences. 

I have a Super Maramu and paid $4250 for the arch without electronics.  Shipping to Ft Lauderdale was an additional $800.  The arch was shipped along with two other Amel customers' arches so shipping cost was shared.
I opted out of the electronics because the cost here in the US was much much lower for same equipment.

Craftsmanship of the arch is first rate, almost artistic quality.  

 Riza is the fellow to talk to over there. My only complaint is the communication with Riza and the slow delivery.  I commissioned and paid for the arch in January,  assured repeatedly that it would be shipped in a couple of weeks.  I did not receive the arch until the last week of May.  I spoke to other Amel owners and they have had a similar experience with Emek.  

The Emek arch is probably one of the best arches for an Amel, and Emek does deliver, only slow.  


Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Charleston, SC


On Jul 1, 2017 9:00 AM, "Tony Robinson tonywrobinson51@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I believe Emek marine in Gocek, Turkey fabricates an excellent rear arch for an Amel 54 - this provides support for several  solar panels and doubles as davits for a RIB. Does anyone have any idea of the approximate cost of this modification ?

Thanks in advance. Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks bill. We are approaching Chania in Crete. We have been motor sailing for the past almost 4 hours and no issues at cruising RPMS. (1350 -1500). I have located the oil pressure sensor but cannot get to it with the engine running. Once we dock I can get into it more. I agree with your assessment and the likely issue being item #1.

In my search online it appears that other Volvo Penta owners have experienced this and some have dealt with it by lowering the RPMs slowly.  We'll try this once close in to see if this makes any difference. Do you know if there is a governor/limiter that adjust to the oil pressure to ensure proper flow at all RPMs?

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
323-633-2222 Cell
310-454-3148 Fax

On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My guess in order of probability:
1.) The oil pressure sender needs cleaning and/or replacing, or has a loose or worn wire. 
2.) There is a problem with the computer
3.) The oil pump needs to be replaced
4.) Main bearings worn

I am betting it is number 1. 

BTW, I don't believe that this applies to you, but there is a known issue with a Yanmar that causes an indication of low pressure...there is a "T" that the oil pressure sender screws into. This "T" is known to get clogged and cause low pressure. 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 1, 2017 03:33, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi everyone;


We left Kythera this morning to head to Crete. About 15 minutes out of Kythera we had sufficient wind so we backed out the engine RPMs from about 1500 to Idle to shut off the engine. We immediately got a low oil pressure warning and a message to shut down the engine. Having had check engine faults before that per the suggestions in the manual  would go away after turning the engine off and then back on again, we tried this with the low oil pressure warning. We got the same warning again. So we shut down the engine and sailed back to our anchorage that we had just left and dropped anchor again. After waiting about 10 more minutes and having reviewed the Volvo manual, we turned the engine on again. We did not have the warning. We then placed the engine in reverse and reved up to 1400 RPMs 4 separate times for about 30 seconds, as if we were setting the anchor. The issue did not reappear.


We decide d to head out, having good favorable winds. We sailed for about 1 hour before the wind started to die down and we started the engine and started motor sailing. After 30 minutes the wind came back up again so we decided to turn off the engine. When we lowered the RPMs to idle, the low pressure warning light came on again. So we have shutoff the engine and are now sailing with about 7 hours left to Crete. The forecast is for the wind to die down when we get close to,our harbor and we will probably need to motor sail the last couple of hours.


I checked the engine oil before we started me again after we received the warning. The oil and oil filter were changed about 1 month ago with genuine Volvo parts about a month ago. I have not looked through the manuals or done any research yet, since I wanted to,get this post out before we lost connection. If any one knows the location of the oil pressure sensor, I'd appreciate the info since it may just be a loose electrical connection. All ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

Amel 54 Davits

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

I believe Emek marine in Gocek, Turkey fabricates an excellent rear arch for an Amel 54 - this provides support for several  solar panels and doubles as davits for a RIB. Does anyone have any idea of the approximate cost of this modification ?

Thanks in advance. Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

My guess in order of probability:
1.) The oil pressure sender needs cleaning and/or replacing, or has a loose or worn wire. 
2.) There is a problem with the computer
3.) The oil pump needs to be replaced
4.) Main bearings worn

I am betting it is number 1. 

BTW, I don't believe that this applies to you, but there is a known issue with a Yanmar that causes an indication of low pressure...there is a "T" that the oil pressure sender screws into. This "T" is known to get clogged and cause low pressure. 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jul 1, 2017 03:33, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi everyone;


We left Kythera this morning to head to Crete. About 15 minutes out of Kythera we had sufficient wind so we backed out the engine RPMs from about 1500 to Idle to shut off the engine. We immediately got a low oil pressure warning and a message to shut down the engine. Having had check engine faults before that per the suggestions in the manual  would go away after turning the engine off and then back on again, we tried this with the low oil pressure warning. We got the same warning again. So we shut down the engine and sailed back to our anchorage that we had just left and dropped anchor again. After waiting about 10 more minutes and having reviewed the Volvo manual, we turned the engine on again. We did not have the warning. We then placed the engine in reverse and reved up to 1400 RPMs 4 separate times for about 30 seconds, as if we were setting the anchor. The issue did not reappear.


We decide d to head out, having good favorable winds. We sailed for about 1 hour before the wind started to die down and we started the engine and started motor sailing. After 30 minutes the wind came back up again so we decided to turn off the engine. When we lowered the RPMs to idle, the low pressure warning light came on again. So we have shutoff the engine and are now sailing with about 7 hours left to Crete. The forecast is for the wind to die down when we get close to,our harbor and we will probably need to motor sail the last couple of hours.


I checked the engine oil before we started me again after we received the warning. The oil and oil filter were changed about 1 month ago with genuine Volvo parts about a month ago. I have not looked through the manuals or done any research yet, since I wanted to,get this post out before we lost connection. If any one knows the location of the oil pressure sensor, I'd appreciate the info since it may just be a loose electrical connection. All ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

Volvo D3-110 low oil pressure warning

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi everyone;


We left Kythera this morning to head to Crete. About 15 minutes out of Kythera we had sufficient wind so we backed out the engine RPMs from about 1500 to Idle to shut off the engine. We immediately got a low oil pressure warning and a message to shut down the engine. Having had check engine faults before that per the suggestions in the manual  would go away after turning the engine off and then back on again, we tried this with the low oil pressure warning. We got the same warning again. So we shut down the engine and sailed back to our anchorage that we had just left and dropped anchor again. After waiting about 10 more minutes and having reviewed the Volvo manual, we turned the engine on again. We did not have the warning. We then placed the engine in reverse and reved up to 1400 RPMs 4 separate times for about 30 seconds, as if we were setting the anchor. The issue did not reappear.


We decided to head out, having good favorable winds. We sailed for about 1 hour before the wind started to die down and we started the engine and started motor sailing. After 30 minutes the wind came back up again so we decided to turn off the engine. When we lowered the RPMs to idle, the low pressure warning light came on again. So we have shutoff the engine and are now sailing with about 7 hours left to Crete. The forecast is for the wind to die down when we get close to,our harbor and we will probably need to motor sail the last couple of hours.


I checked the engine oil before we started me again after we received the warning. The oil and oil filter were changed about 1 month ago with genuine Volvo parts about a month ago. I have not looked through the manuals or done any research yet, since I wanted to,get this post out before we lost connection. If any one knows the location of the oil pressure sensor, I'd appreciate the info since it may just be a loose electrical connection. All ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.


Mohammad & Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In search of a Super Maramu

James Cromie
 

I would like to thank everyone for their helpful feedback regarding my inquiry of Super Maramus.  This is a great resource, and I imagine I’ll be asking for more advice along the way!

James

On Jun 30, 2017, at 3:57 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi James,
   I second what everyone has said about connecting with Bill Rouse,  Joel Potter, or Michel Charpentier(in Europe).  They can and will certianly point you right.

Amels are very well designed and constructed vessels.  You will not be disappointed.  

As Amels are built in France and are intended to be sailed long distance you will find them all over the world.  More for sale in France and Martinique than other places which could be to your advantage as there are Amel service centers at those locations that can help you with after purchase upkeep and repair.

Last December I bought my SM in Le Marin Martinique and had the Amel service center at the foot of the dock....very convenient!


Wherever you decide to buy, get a good surveyor who KNOWS Amels.  There are more than a few quirky Amelisms that a non-Amel surveyor won't understand.

The forum is great and everyone will give you tons of help.

Good luck,  John

John Clark
SV Annie. SM 37
Charleston, SC




On Jun 29, 2017 10:12 PM, "jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello!  I have discovered this email group whilst reading through blogs of various owners of Super Maramus.  This forum seems like a great resource for networking with Amel owners with lots of experience.   The Super Maramu seems to be the ideal yacht for our family of two adults and two girls aged 5 and 9 to embark on a life of cruising for the next few years.   We are currently based in Vermont, though are willing to travel to look at yachts elsewhere.  I would very much appreciate any guidance that might be given to us as we conduct our search.  Certainly, if anyone is aware of anyone planning to sell a Super Maramu, we'd be interested to hear about it. 


Thank you for your help!


James




Re: Exhaust water temperature sensor 7MDKAL

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Thank you Bill.  

Exactly my concern: if half the wires to the temp sensor are broken off, and the genset computer hasn't figured it out, or someone has disabled the function, then what good is it to simply replace the sensor?

I attach a picture of the defective part.

The terminal still attached has two white wires, joined with heatshrink to one connector.

The broken off terminal floats in space, held there by the two black wires, joined with heat shrink to the a connector screwed into the broken terminal.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust water temperature sensor 7MDKAL

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Fernando,

I don't understand, or maybe I am confused or wrong...or, all of the above.

I believe that the exhaust elbow temperature sensor has a normally closed switch that opens at about 90c. If one of the terminals was broken off, your Onan should have shutdown after it started. 

I am unable to test my memory and belief, but anyone with a multitester, can check me on this by disconnecting the wires and checking continuity across the terminals on the sensor. Also they could start the Onan and disconnect a wire to see if it shuts down. 

Funny coincidence, when I was in Marmaris I had a watermaker tech in the engine room who broke one of those terminals. I did not notice it until weeks later because he screwed the two wires to the remaining terminal. The Onan ran fine because what he did simulated a closed switch. If I would have had an overheat situation, I could have ruined the Onan because I had no working sensor. 

I learned several lessons on that one.  


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Jun 30, 2017 15:40, "svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello,


Our sensor, marked F230 402-370 0013, was found failed (one of the wire terminals broken off) during an Onan inspection in Italy, and the part would have taken weeks for express delivery from Onan Netherlands.


Here in Marmaris, the part is available at the Onan shop for a "modest" $125. But I have two questions:


1.  If I install it myself, is there a need for a thermal paste or some other exotic procedure other than just screwing the new sensor where the old one was?


2.  How do you "test" such a sensor?  Obviously its absence has not been detected by the genset, which runs like a champ, so after installing the shiny new part, how do I even know if the new part is doing anything other than sitting pretty?


I think a functioning sensor is important as otherwise an overheating situation will not be detected and the motor will burn out and possibly cause a fire.


Thoughts?  Comments?  Thanks in advance!


Peregrinus

SM2K N. 350 (2002)

Marmaris, Tk

Exhaust water temperature sensor 7MDKAL

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello,


Our sensor, marked F230 402-370 0013, was found failed (one of the wire terminals broken off) during an Onan inspection in Italy, and the part would have taken weeks for express delivery from Onan Netherlands.


Here in Marmaris, the part is available at the Onan shop for a "modest" $125. But I have two questions:


1.  If I install it myself, is there a need for a thermal paste or some other exotic procedure other than just screwing the new sensor where the old one was?


2.  How do you "test" such a sensor?  Obviously its absence has not been detected by the genset, which runs like a champ, so after installing the shiny new part, how do I even know if the new part is doing anything other than sitting pretty?


I think a functioning sensor is important as otherwise an overheating situation will not be detected and the motor will burn out and possibly cause a fire.


Thoughts?  Comments?  Thanks in advance!


Peregrinus

SM2K N. 350 (2002)

Marmaris, Tk

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In search of a Super Maramu

John Clark
 

Hi James,
   I second what everyone has said about connecting with Bill Rouse,  Joel Potter, or Michel Charpentier(in Europe).  They can and will certianly point you right.

Amels are very well designed and constructed vessels.  You will not be disappointed.  

As Amels are built in France and are intended to be sailed long distance you will find them all over the world.  More for sale in France and Martinique than other places which could be to your advantage as there are Amel service centers at those locations that can help you with after purchase upkeep and repair.

Last December I bought my SM in Le Marin Martinique and had the Amel service center at the foot of the dock....very convenient!


Wherever you decide to buy, get a good surveyor who KNOWS Amels.  There are more than a few quirky Amelisms that a non-Amel surveyor won't understand.

The forum is great and everyone will give you tons of help.

Good luck,  John

John Clark
SV Annie. SM 37
Charleston, SC




On Jun 29, 2017 10:12 PM, "jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hello!  I have discovered this email group whilst reading through blogs of various owners of Super Maramus.  This forum seems like a great resource for networking with Amel owners with lots of experience.   The Super Maramu seems to be the ideal yacht for our family of two adults and two girls aged 5 and 9 to embark on a life of cruising for the next few years.   We are currently based in Vermont, though are willing to travel to look at yachts elsewhere.  I would very much appreciate any guidance that might be given to us as we conduct our search.  Certainly, if anyone is aware of anyone planning to sell a Super Maramu, we'd be interested to hear about it. 


Thank you for your help!


James

Re: Replacement Generator exhaust hose (install)

greatketch@...
 

Terry,

I doubt anybody can tell you with absolute assurance that 6 inches lower than the factory install is certain to be OK, or certain to cause trouble.  What IS certain is that the lower that loop, the more likely it is for water to be forced back into the water lift, and from there to the engine.  Is the change significant?  I am not sure, but....

If it was my boat, I'd insist that the yard make it the way it was, even it that required them to replace an expensive bit of hose they cut too short on the first try.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Edgertown, Martha's Vineyard 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plastimo Magnetic Compass Light

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks to everyone to contributing to this posting. My compass has been dark for the past year. I could never figure out how to get to the bulb. Then, I was sidetracked to other stuff. I’ll take another stab at this. It would be nice to see where I am going.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Kitts - Nevis

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:45 AM
To: Bill & Judy Rouse
Cc: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plastimo Magnetic Compass Light

 

 

Hi Bill & All,

 

Some progress on this issue, although not yet resolved.

Thanks to some info here and on Club Amel site (french), we were able to dismount the compass.

 

Lights are located under the 3-parts cover, which can be removed by unclipping the side logos. This will reveal 2 large screws on each side. Once removed, you can access the lights/wiring. 

We have also contacted Plastimo re. spare references.

 

Bill, you are right, only post 2016 is LED, and replacement should be done like for like (ours is therefore incandescent).

Our current issue is that Plastimo said from a photo that our circuit is not the original one. We have 3 bulbs with a resistance, they think it should be 2.

We are looking for guidance on whether to replace and revert to the original circuit, or replace as is. Waiting for a response from Amel as to why they would have done it this way (there must be a good reason...).

Photos and catalogue page saved under photos > album.

 

Please let us know if any queries or info.

Many thanks

Soraya

 

 

On 1 June 2017 at 13:17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I read that once the bottom plate is removed that the wires and light slip out with a slight tug on the wires. I also read that the new LED plastimo bulb is not compatible with the older non-LED compass.

 

I am not sure of the accuracy of this information and if you do this job, please confirm this.

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 7:33 AM, svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amelians,

 

Has anyone had to replace the light of their Plastimo Magnetic Compass?

- is that done through the front or back of the compass?

- do you know what bulb is required?

 

With thanks in advance,

Soraya

 

 

 

--

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Cap d'Agde, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Replacement Generator exhaust hose (install) [2 Attachments]

Mark Erdos
 

Terry,

 

I always operate under the assumption that if it was done a certain way on an Amel there is probably good reason for it. Although, sometimes the reasons aren’t obvious, at first.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Kitts - Nevis

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Replacement Generator exhaust hose (install) [2 Attachments]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from singh_terence@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

During Libby's haul out this week, we bit the bullet and decided to change out the Generator exhaust hose and Vetus Waterlock. Good decision as the original hose was in very bad condition.

 

The yard did a good job, how ever I have one question that I need help with.

 

The factory installation of the exhaust hose had it loop upwards out the the Waterlock to the underside of the cockpit floor.



The new installation has the hose looping up  to within 6 inches of the underside of the cockpit floor.



The anti syphon break is still in its original original position.



My question. 



Is the  6 inch difference in the loop height critical especially if the boat is heeled over hard.



Pictures of the difference in installation height are attached.



Any clarity would be appreciated.



Terry.