Back in Greece
elenaxara <dkra@...>
Dear All,
After a mediteranean adventure with fair winds and some problems with our new Super Maramu 2000 we arrived in Greece. My website www.almalibre.gr is updated and there you can find interesting things that happened to us during the trip. For your info the Raymarine instruments worked very good during the trip but as expected on any new boat there are some problems that have to be solved. The latest is that the 12V engine starting battery has been discharged after leaving the boat for 5 days in Syros Island in Cyclades. I was shocked I had to start the engine with the cables that were supplied with the boat although I had 630 Ah battery capacity on 24 Volts as the boat was connected to the shore power. Has anybody a clue of what happened? Amel claims that propably the battery is faulty. I am surprised that on such a boat there is no other mean to charge this battery but only to start the engine or generator ( if you can ). Has anybody installed a switch to paralel the batteries in order to start the engine without the cables? On my previous boat (Santorin) with 12 V systems everything was simpler and more safe. Dimitris Krassopoulos
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Re: The ICW with a Super Maramu
asm283 <no_reply@...>
--- In amelyachtowners@y..., closereach <no_reply@y...> wrote:
Hello everyone,home here on the east coast of central Florida (Satellite Beach). Thisanother vessel on the starboard side, ahead of the main mast chain plates.We bought her from the owner and had her repaired by Derecktorwork is superb. It's great to know that the same people building the CEOmasts (mizzen was snapped in half and mainmast was dented here andthere). Jersey coast, up the Delaware Bay and down the Chesapeake Bay and enteredFor those interested, be very carefully around Cape LeJuene, Northsecond time was right in the center of the channel at mid tide in the cutin case. It's a great deal and we called them for any 'localknowledge' before coming close to many of areas where the ICW cuts close tothe inlets.)standard 3 bladed fixed prop. I wanted to be very conservative and 'baby'the engine (Perkins 80hp with 2000 hours) so I motored at 2,000 rpm ata speed of 7.5 mph (I set the instruments/GPS to miles per hourrather than knots as all the ICW chart and navigation books refer tostatute miles rather than nautical miles). Engine ran flawlessly for eachCongradulation on your boat.I owned hull # 6 for a year.I currently own #283. Although the new boat has all the upgrated systems. I think the older boats had better woodwork and a higher level of finish. I hope you get those masts on soon and go sailing. You may be the only person ever to go down the ICW in a Super Maramu. Vito Ciaravino SM#283 Wonderer
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Re: Super maramu questions
closereach <no_reply@...>
2-Dodger windows: When taking significant spray and going into theRT: We found on our trip traveling down the ICW that when motoring into a 15 kt or higher breeze the wave chop does put a good amount of spray on the dodger window and makes it very hard to peer forward. I too would like to know of some 'magic' way to improve visibility. Offshore I can see that this is not a big problem but traveling inside a channel makes it difficult. My solution was to crack the window open the smallest amount to peek through while getting the least amount of spray coming past the opening. RT: We found our 60 lb. CQR worked great everywhere but one place-- Southport, NC. We anchored in the 'old' basin where all the fishing vessels are located. Very very soft mud. CQR dragged throught like butter. I deployed my 35 lb. stainless steel Northill anchor with success. I have purchased a 110 lb. Bruce and will put that on the bow as the primary anchor. .
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The ICW with a Super Maramu
closereach <no_reply@...>
Hello everyone,
Last night at 7pm we arrived home with our new Super Maramu. She's hull #5 and built in 1989. We purchased her in Mamaroneck, New York and have spent the past 3 weeks traveling down the coast to our home here on the east coast of central Florida (Satellite Beach). This Super Maramu had previously been damaged in a collision with another vessel on the starboard side, ahead of the main mast chain plates. We bought her from the owner and had her repaired by Derecktor Shipyards. What an unbelievable level of worksmanship by the craftsman at Derecktor! The fiberglass repair and joinery repair work is superb. It's great to know that the same people building the CEO of Tyco's $20+M dollar 150+ foot yacht worked on the repair of our boat. The masts were damaged in the collison, so the hardware/motors/winches were removed from what was left of the masts (mizzen was snapped in half and mainmast was dented here and there). We then motored out Long Island sound, past NYC, down the New Jersey coast, up the Delaware Bay and down the Chesapeake Bay and entered the Intracoastal Waterway at Norfolk. Ok, without masts it's a bit cheating for a sailboat to do the ICW. However the Super Maramu is still a relatively deep draft sailboat-- enough that we went aground 4 times (althought 2 of those were definitely my error of venturing just outside the ICW channel). For those interested, be very carefully around Cape LeJuene, North Carolina where the inlets come very close to the ICW. And the second time was right in the center of the channel at mid tide in the cut that enters the Cape Fear River (also in NC!). The inlets all in Florida are well marked with cans buoys and we had no problem. (Incidently, we bought the BOAT/US $99 unlimited tow package just in case. It's a great deal and we called them for any 'local knowledge' before coming close to many of areas where the ICW cuts close to the inlets.) For the trip, I removed the MaxProp and installed the backup standard 3 bladed fixed prop. I wanted to be very conservative and 'baby' the engine (Perkins 80hp with 2000 hours) so I motored at 2,000 rpm at a speed of 7.5 mph (I set the instruments/GPS to miles per hour rather than knots as all the ICW chart and navigation books refer to statute miles rather than nautical miles). Engine ran flawlessly for each days 12 to 13 hour run for the past 3 weeks. I did not pay to much attention to the fixed bridge heights on the ICW. I can say, however, that here in Florida several of the fixed bridges just south of Cape Canaveral are around 63 feet right now. What is the air draft of an SM? I believe it's 65 to 66 feet, correct? Our 1985 Sharki is still up for sale. I'll email photos and info on request. Richard Tate SM #5 SPICE
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction
Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
Actually very little; only the middle support tubing
must be slightly shortened, by approximately 40mm each side; a metal saw and a drill will achieve this. The front one can remain as is and the rear-most one can stay in exactly the same position as it is. I think you will see what I mean if you look at this "on the boat". Thanks. Best regards --- Anne and John <hollamby@compuserve.com> wrote: Message text written by __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com
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Another stove for my Santorin
banjaro2002 <w.kroes@...>
Hi Santorin owners (and owners of other Amels),
My name is Willem J. Kroes and I bought recently a 92 Santorin sloop named "Kavanga". I have two questions to ask to other Santorin owners. 1. I want to alter the Eno 2 burner stove by anther model with 3 burners. Can you recommend a specific make and model. 2. The paint on the deck to imitate the wooden look has disappeared for about 40%. and that gives not a nice look (although pure cosmetic). Is there a specific paint to be used? Best regards, Willem J. Kroes
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction
Anne and John <hollamby@...>
Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<If you raise the fixed dodger you will have to make a big alteration to the bimini so that it can still be opened and closed. Regards John Hollamby SM319 Bali Hai
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction
Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
Thank you for the detail. I will solve the view out
from the helm by raising the dodger 50 mm. Amel should take note of this visibility issue, either lowering the helm seat or raising the dodger. Thanks. --- Anne and John <hollamby@compuserve.com> wrote: Message text written by __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super maramu questions
Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
A few thoughts:(see below, to each question)
--- asm283 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Helloit re-cut and a foam pad added at the luff and it will. I had North do it and it's fine now. Also added a sun cover so I don't have to use that intolerable and very fragile "sock". significantly modifying the dodger, very professionally and aesthetically, at Lyman-Morse Boatbuilding this winter. 1. Raising it 50 mm so you have a line of sight out from the helm; 2. replacing the windows both sides with glass, dividing each in two, outboard windows open, inboard window in front of helm with wiper. course. Alternative is to tow the RIB where practicable, or strap on aft deck for passages. Or Zodiac Futura "Fast Roller" which has an air floor and deflates/rolls completely. Good tender. worked very well. But there are so many choices now and many more coming. I think Globalstar and Iridium have better data capability. The Mini-M has been utterly reliable with good quality communications.
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Super maramu questions
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hello
I finally spend a few weeks cruising my SM2000 # 283 in a variety of conditions. I would like to ask some questions. 1- Sails: The standard genoa that comes with the boat did not roller reef well. Has anyone replaced this sail and what did you have made. Have you added to the sail inventory and if you did what did you add. 2-Dodger windows: When taking significant spray and going into the sun you are almost blind. Has anyone used anything on these windows to improve visibility such as rainX? Also, the helmsman window leaked is this normal and is there a way to seal it better. 3-Anchors: So far the standard anchor has worked well I also have a 40lb danford. What other anchors are being carried out there. 4- Davits: I am torn on this one. I dont like the look of them but I think the convenience may sway me to add them. Any suggestions or recomendations. 5-Communications: SSB? Satellite phone? E-Mail? I would like to hear what works and what does not. Thank you in advance for your reply. Vito Ciaravino Otherwise she was a confortable and fast yacht on my recent trip.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction
Anne and John <hollamby@...>
Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<I removed the Amel seat by taking out the bolts and slowly cut through the mastic with a long razor knife. I had obtained two pedestals from New Zealand,these are important because all the other makes do not seem to have up/down and in/out movements with gas filled struts.The pedestal fits perfectly on the centre line of the wheel and is secured with bolts through six new holes in the floor of the cockpit. You have to remove the light fitting in the engine space,cut away the foam sound proofing and put a piece of marine ply larger than the base of the pedestal on the underside of the cockpit floor to take the securing bolts and put mastic on the base before fixing. Then fix the foam back with contact glue and refix the light. The pedestal takes any of a number of plastic seats....mine was an import from the States available in Europe and my wife made some removable cushions secured by press studs and it looks great. The lowest position of the seat is about level with the cockpit seats and the highest position is similar to the Amel seat from which I coud not see the horizon. As the seat swivels one can actually face the people in the cockpit and turn back when you like,it can of course be locked in any direction and the movements are very easy thanks to the gas struts.The backwards and forwards movement is about three inches. The table is then unfixable as the supports are gone but we are about to get a fitting that will solve that problem although it will mean that the table will be stored in a locker when not needed. As the pedestal is made in NZ it is not expensive and could easily be sent air freight.The fax no of the Kiwi company is on my boat and if you want it let me know and I will send it on. The second pedestal replaces the Amel stool which is easily removed by taking out the bolt under the floor.The wooden base is fixed with a mastic and has to be cut away with a chisel. The floor is strong enough to take the pedestal bolted down through a new hardwood pad and I moved the position of the seat forward as far as possible,ie so that the pad still covers the hole which supported the original stool. It might have been better if I had moved the position an inch or so nearer the centre line of the boat. Moving the position forward gets the seat out of the way a bit and suits us as we are right handed at the chart table. The seat was then upholstered and is very comfortable and suits us who are over six feet tall and also my grandchildren who are about four feet high !! I would post some pics to this site if I knew how !!!!! Regards John Hollamby
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sharki Battery Re-fit
naticual <no_reply@...>
How did the propane project go. Stargazer will need new sysetem in
the next 30 days --- In amelyachtowners@y..., wbs9971@a... wrote: Thanks for the response. I assume you installed the Optimastarting battery in the engine room under the selector switch. As for the propaneline, we are going to run the line sometime next week. I'll let you knowhow we route it. I am going to move the solenoid shut-off valve to the aftlocker also for safety reasons.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction
Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
I would be very interested to know the details of your
improvements. I have #308. This winter I intend to raise the fixed dodger by 50 mm (so one can actually have a clear line of vision forward) and to replace the plexi windscreen windows with properly built SS frames, divided windows with the outboard 2 opening, glass in the place of plexi. I think the engineering can be very clean and minimally "invasive". The final profile will be little altered, more pleasing I think, and far more practical. I liked the helm seat on my old Maramu better, and intend to cut away the left arm-rest on the standard SM helm. I look forward to your details. Thank you. Claude Roessiger --- Anne and John <hollamby@compuserve.com> wrote: Message text written by __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction
Anne and John <hollamby@...>
Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<Super Maramu No 319 Bali Hai is in the marina at Ay Nicholau and we hope to rejoin her there about 8 August. We have made a number of "improvements" including an excellent helmsmans seat ,owners bunk,navigators seat etc..Good cockpit table to be installed when we return.We should be very happy to show you these if you are interested. Incidentally we think you spoke with my wife Anne when we were in Hania. Regards John Hollamby
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction
Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
Hi, Steve,
I had Maramu #29 from 1985-2000, when I bought a SuperMaramu. The old Maramu proved rock solid and gave us 15 fantastic years with absolutely minimal maintenance. It was no doubt a plus that #29 had been Mr. Amel's personal boat and maintained by the yard when I bought her used in '85. I felt I got a "new" boat. If your #25 was equally well maintained, you should have some good luck. Over the years we did very few upgrades. We did have the Nirvana furling for the headsail, which the old boats didn't have. We changed the wiring for the diesel cabin heater (greatly simplifying it) and thereafter it ran pefectly, whereas prior to that it was shaky at best. The diesel was fantastic: Never, never missed a beat. Mechanically this boat was totally solid. We had the normal maintenance items (new plexi for windows, etc.) but overall remarkably little. The boat was kept in northern waters, thus avoided the killing sun of the hotter areas, but on the other hand spent very cold, icy, snowy winters exposed and did not suffer visibly for it. Overall, an extraordinary boat. Do check carefully the condition of the masts/booms and rigging. We had a sudden/total boom failure in '99 which doubtless was our inadvertance: we believed the boat indestructible and did not properly check these things anymore. Best of luck. Claude Roessiger --- Steve Hoefel <hoefels@hotmail.com> wrote: Hello All,_________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com
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Introduction
Steve Hoefel
Hello All,
I recent purchased an Amel Maramu, hull #25. She has been well kept and continuously upgraded by her previous owner. The boat is currently in transit to my location on the island of Crete, Greece. I look forward to exchanging ideas and information with the other members of the group. My name is Steve and look forward to getting to know eachof you. Until then, fair winds and good anchorages. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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Re: ELECTROLYSIS
jfolino901 <jfolino901@...>
ARNOLD, THANKS FOR THE REPLY. ACTUALLY I WAS NEVER PLUGGED INTO SHORE
POWER WHILE @ NANNY CAY. THIS WAS BECAUSE OF 2 REASONS: THE FIRST IS THE PLUG WASN'T COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR OUTLETS (CAY DID CHANGE THIS TO THEIR OUTLET CONFIGURATION. THE SECOND REASON IS THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY POWERED UP 220 VOLT OUTLETS ON MY DOCK! THERE IS A 3RD REASON, I WAS ONLY THERE FOR 3 NIGHTS ANYWAY. SO, BOTTOM LINE IT WASN'T DUE TO IMPROPER SHORE POWER AT LEAST NOT AT NANNY CAY. IN FACT I SPENT LESS THAN 7 DAYS ON BOARD AT ANY MARINA EXCEPT IN LAROCHELLE WHICH WAS A WEEK. WHEN I LEFT THE BOAT I DISCONNECTED SHORE POWER AND SHUT BOTH BATTERY SWITCHES OFF! I'M PERPLEXED, I TRUST THAT AMEL & POCHON (THEIR ELECTRONICS TECH) WILL FIND AND CORRECT THE PROBLEM. THANKS, JOHN FOLINO--- In amelyachtowners@y..., pagandaisy <no_reply@y...> wrote: Were you plugged into shore power the entire time you were in Nannythe record)don't depend upon Cay Electronics. ArnoldFROM MONTHHER LAUNCH SATE LAST OCTOBER TO BEING HAULED OUT IN LATE MARCH OFTHE THENTIME, FULLY 30 DAYS WERE SPENT SAILING FROM FRANCE TO PORTUGAL CAUSETO THE CARIBBEAN!FACT THEHAS BEEN REPORTED TO ME! I MADE NO CHANGES TO THE BOAT DURING THE MARINAS REPORTED ANY SIMILAR PROBLEMS REGARDING ELECTROLYSIS. ANY
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Re: ELECTROLYSIS
pagandaisy <no_reply@...>
Were you plugged into shore power the entire time you were in Nanny
Cay? What about the zincs on the rudder? I know Nanny Cay well having been in there for years. On more than one occasion I encountered problems with the on shore power: loss of ground, reversed polarity. Do you have a transformer as part of your electrical system to step up from 120 to 240 volts? I believe mine saved me from electrolisis more than once. Incidentally (and off the record)don't depend upon Cay Electronics. Arnold --- In amelyachtowners@y..., "jfolino901" <jfolino901@y...> wrote: MY NEW SM #347 HAS SPENT A TOTAL TIME OF 5 MONTHS IN THE WATER FROMTHE AMEL FLOAT IN LAROCHELLE. THEN FOR 2 MONTHS IN LAGOS, PORTUGAL.PAINT FLAKING OFF AND THE ZINCS ALMOST TOTALLY DISOLVED. OF THIS 5 MONTHFACT THEY ARE RETURNING TO MY BOAT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO FAR NO CAUSE
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Re: Dealing with m. Selo, ss anchor, shipping problems, logos, ets
scentstone <scentstone@...>
I don't understand how anyone could have any problemsdealing with m. Selo. I've been doing so for as long as I've had Amel's, almost20 years, with nothing but first class service.I agree absolutely with you.. Owner of "THOSCA" a Mango since 1994 actually in Turquey, i never seen a so friendly and well informed person in the industry, this man know each part of your boat and the way to repare it !!! I want publicly thank him here. Fred Sochat
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ELECTROLYSIS
jfolino901 <jfolino901@...>
MY NEW SM #347 HAS SPENT A TOTAL TIME OF 5 MONTHS IN THE WATER FROM
HER LAUNCH SATE LAST OCTOBER TO BEING HAULED OUT IN LATE MARCH OF THIS YEAR. DURING THAT TIME SHE WAS BERTHED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AT THE AMEL FLOAT IN LAROCHELLE. THEN FOR 2 MONTHS IN LAGOS, PORTUGAL. FINALLY 1 MONTH @ NANNY CAY, TORTOLA. AFTER HAULING OUT I NOTICED CONSIDERABLE ELECTROLYSIS TO THE PROP, ROPE CUTTER & THE BOTTOM PAINT FLAKING OFF AND THE ZINCS ALMOST TOTALLY DISOLVED. OF THIS 5 MONTH TIME, FULLY 30 DAYS WERE SPENT SAILING FROM FRANCE TO PORTUGAL THEN TO THE CARIBBEAN! AMEL TO THEIR CREDIT SENT A CREW TO INVESTIGATE THE PROBLEM, IN FACT THEY ARE RETURNING TO MY BOAT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO FAR NO CAUSE HAS BEEN REPORTED TO ME! I MADE NO CHANGES TO THE BOAT DURING THE SHORT WHILE I WAS ON THE BOAT. NO OTHER ADJACENT BOAT AT ANY OF THE MARINAS REPORTED ANY SIMILAR PROBLEMS REGARDING ELECTROLYSIS. ANY COMMENTS? JOHN FOLINO (SULAJON)
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