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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finding LED bulbs for overhead lights
greatketch@...
Ryan....
On more thing, we'll be in Boston next week. Give me a shout at greatketch at yahoo dot com if you want to get together and compare notes. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Gloucester, Mass
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finding LED bulbs for overhead lights
greatketch@...
Brent
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LED bulbs are now available to fit every imaginable kind of fixture--including some I never imagined! Those G4 sockets (two pin) have widely available LED replacements. Ryan's problem is that the fixtures on his boat are (IMO) incorrectly oriented even for halogen bulbs. The way his lamps are set up the filament of the halogen bulb would be vertical, not the best way to shine light down out of a ceiling fixture. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Gloucester, Mass ---In amelyachtowners@..., <brentcameron61@...> wrote : That looks like a halogen bulb… very bright but also extremely hot and power hungry. I doubt you’ll find a LED fitting for it.
On Aug 16, 2017, 7:06 PM -0400, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>, wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finding LED bulbs for overhead lights
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finding LED bulbs for overhead lights
greatketch@...
Hi Ryan,
That's an unusual orientation for a G4 mount, and although my fixtures look similar to yours on the outside, the internal details are different. You might try these bulbs... they plug in with a wire, so the orientation of the pins isn't an issue.... Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Gloucester, Mass
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finding LED bulbs for overhead lights [1 Attachment]
John Clark
Hi Ryan, I can tell you that I have different fixtures in my 1990 SM. They are all festoon fittings. John Clark SV Annie SM 37 Cruising Pamlico Sound
On Aug 16, 2017 6:44 PM, "Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anemometer stop working
pjn.mccallin@...
Good day ! Suggest you contact Myles marine, he carries most spares you need for any B&G unit.
I have had to replace the electric board inside the head unit also the cup unit when the UV destroyed the spinning unit, all obtained from Myles, he posts all over the world. Hope all is well and you are still sharing the Champagne Patrick& Elaine,Caramelle #385.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Miles, Read your manual...it is very straightforward. Let me know if you do not have a manual. CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anemometer stop working
mfmcgovern@...
We found that ours was not working when we had her surveyed. There were two issues:
1. The bearings were seized in the anemometer 2. The main connection was corroded and cracked. Picture attached. I asked Bill Rouse about the issue and he sent me the following response: B&G Wind Speed If the Wind Speed is inaccurate in light winds and sometimes zero, it is almost always the Wind Speed Sensor Part# 210-10-038 about $150. See attached: B&G Masthead Unit 213 exploded view.JPG If the Wind Speed is zero and the 213 MHU wind cups are turning, it could be lots of things including in the order of probability:
We ended up replacing the entire mast head unit as well as the cable. Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finding LED bulbs for overhead lights
Ryan Meador
Maybe I'm just missing something, but the offerings on that site look the same as the others I've found, which is to say none will fit my boat. All of the "side pin" G4 bulbs have the pins in the plane of the disc, and I need them rotated 90 degrees to the plane of the disc (but not back pin, I still want the pins out the side). Does my Super Maramu have non-standard light fixtures? I've attached a photo of one, but it's a little difficult to see the orientation of the pins. Thanks, Ryan
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem
eric freedman
Thanks Willem, Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:46 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan starting problem
I am referring to the horizontal placed solenoid connected to the red manual stop lever.
Regards, Willem
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anemometer stop working
greatketch@...
Alexandre,
We have had that problem twice. In both cases the problem was mechanical, not electrical. If the wind cups are turning and you are not seeing any reported speed, then your problem is electrical, and different than we have seen... Once, after we blew out our ballonner we had a few stray threads of nylon wrap themselves around the wind cups. No mystery what happened there. Remove threads, and we were back in business More recently, we have symptoms of the bearing going bad. Ours hasn't stopped completely yet, but it is showing high start-up friction. We have the spare unit ready to go, the next time we get weather calm enough to go up the mast. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Gloucester, Mass ---In amelyachtowners@..., <uster@...> wrote : The Anemometer stop working… Wind speed was showing 0 during the last trip Has anyone experienced this? What was the issue and solution? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT IGY Simpson Bay Marina, St Maarten, NA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anemometer stop working
Alexandre,
Are the little cups turning at the top of the mast? If not, you will need to replace the bearings up there.
I had a similar issue once. The cups were turning and the display read zero. I found rebooting solved it.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Grenada www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@...
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:54 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anemometer stop working
The Anemometer stop working… Wind speed was showing 0 during the last trip
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Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey
greatketch@...
While I was writing that last post I had to stop and convince myself that a course optimized to a point dead upwind would be the same as a course optimized to a point that was, say 25 degrees off the wind. After drawing a few vector diagrams, I managed to convince myself that the optimization would give the same result to either course. (Note well: convincing myself is NOT the same as a proof. I could be wrong!)
Here is my logic... While sailing up wind I can break my velocity vector into two component vectors: one straight upwind, and the other perpendicular to that. Any useful optimization program must maximize the upwind velocity vector and minimize the cross wind vector. No matter where my destination is in the upwind zone (between the tack angles) the vector perpendicular to the wind is taking me away from where I want to go, so minimizing that is always best. QED. (Maybe) And I definitely hear you about avoiding beating! We just had an unusually delightful close hauled sail from Bar Harbor to Gloucester, but that is definitely the exception the the rule! I'd rather wait a week, or sail an extra 1000 miles than spend 3 days beating. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Gloucester, Mass ---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote : Bill, Thanks for the detailed explanation. My only remaining question is if under "W", the autopilot is trying to optimize VMG to an Apparent Wind Angle AWA of zero, or is it trying to optimize to a shallower angle, say, 10° or 20°. It seems to me that optimized VMG is not the same to a destination that is {0°, 10°, 20° or 30°} AWA of one's current position. When under autopilot, we sail in "Wind" mode most of the time by far, so we'll try in the weeks and months ahead to see what we can learn of the VMG algorithm the B&G autopilot uses. The only problem is that we try and avoid beating like the plague, so it may take a while to accumulate observations on VMG-optimization. Cheerio, Peregrinus SM2K N. 350 at anchor, Thermopylae
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Anemometer stop working
Alexandre Uster von Baar
The Anemometer stop working… Wind speed was showing 0 during the last trip
Has anyone experienced this? What was the issue and solution? Thanks in advance Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT IGY Simpson Bay Marina, St Maarten, NA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration
Ian Park
Miles
The ballooner setup is quite unique to AMEL boats. The sail is similar to a cruising chute, the same dimensions as the genoa, but goes up a second luff groove on the genoa furled. It is hoisted by a continuous halliard arrangement that enables the head of the sail to be engaged in the top swivel and the halliard to be completely removed. Thus enables both sails to be reeled simultaneously on the roller or rolled in completely. A third luff groove enables the ballooner to be lowered by hoisting a plastic 'mouse' which releases the ballooner - hence Chris's comment about his fast the sail comes down. The twin articulated poles again are unique. They are much safer to deploy shorthanded than a spinnaker pole since none of the moving part of the pole is over the deck. The four pole control lines are colour coded individually and marked with the optimum creating off position to facilitate an easy set up prior to unfurling the genoa and then hoisting the ballooner. All the instructions and diagrams are in the SM owners manual, a copy of which I believe is on file. Hope this gives a quick overview, but reading the chapter will make more sense. Good luck Ian Ocean Hobo SN96
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration
greatketch@...
You might find this post on my blog useful if you are interested in the mechanics of the downwind rig on an Amel...
Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Gloucester, Mass
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] finding LED bulbs for overhead lights
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Hi Ryan,
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Try boatlamps.co.uk… their site has piccies of every LED fixture known. Good luck. Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration
smiles bernard
Thanks greatketch! Could anyone point me to info about how to set up this downwind ballooned rig? Does it fly on a removable forestay? In a dyneema luff rope ? Something else ? I've never heard of a balooner before btw This is different to a asymmetrical cruising chute right? Many thanks for any help and advise Miles
On 15 Aug 2017, at 21:03, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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finding LED bulbs for overhead lights
Ryan Meador
Hi all, I'm in the process of converting all the interior lights on my SM to LED. It was easy to find BA15d LED bulbs for the wall lights, so that's taken care of (though I did break one since the label on the fixture said they're G4, but they're definitely BA15d -- twist, don't pull!). I'm having a bear of a time finding a bulb that will work in the overhead fixtures though. They all take G4 bulbs, but the sockets are mounted such that the two pins are vertically aligned. All the bulbs for this application (example) have pins that are horizontal, so they won't fit. I have been able to find some LED bulbs that are the same form factor as the original halogens, but they have much lower light output because they're smaller and some of the LEDs are pointing at the ceiling, so I don't want those. I also haven't had luck finding a 90 degree adapter. Does anyone have a solution to this problem? I've seen posts in the archive about people who have changed their lights, but not how they did it. I thought I should ask before I go creating my own adapters or kludging something together. Thanks, Ryan SM 233 Iteration Boston, USA
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Re: Good Service In Marmaris Turkey
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
Bill,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. My only remaining question is if under "W", the autopilot is trying to optimize VMG to an Apparent Wind Angle AWA of zero, or is it trying to optimize to a shallower angle, say, 10° or 20°. It seems to me that optimized VMG is not the same to a destination that is {0°, 10°, 20° or 30°} AWA of one's current position. When under autopilot, we sail in "Wind" mode most of the time by far, so we'll try in the weeks and months ahead to see what we can learn of the VMG algorithm the B&G autopilot uses. The only problem is that we try and avoid beating like the plague, so it may take a while to accumulate observations on VMG-optimization. Cheerio, Peregrinus SM2K N. 350 at anchor, Thermopylae ---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote : It definitely works in W(ind) mode. What it is doing is finding the wind angle that will make the boat reach an imaginary waypoint directly to windward, as fast as possible. The VMG it is optimizing is the VMG to windward, NOT the VMG to the next navigation waypoint. I know the manual gives very little to this function, but what it says (in total!) is "You can optimize the VMG to the wind. When selected the function will be active for 5-10 minutes after a new wind angle has been set and only when beating." The assumption here is that if you are beating, then your desired destination must be to windward of your location. It actually doesn't matter for the optimization if that destination is directly to windward, as long as it is somewhere in the cone between the boat's tacking angles. Note that the optimization in not continuous. It works until it is finds an optimum that meets its criteria (what ever that is!), and then holds that wind angle. If conditions change, such as wind strength or wave size, it is a good idea to command the unit to make a small change in course so it re-runs the optimization program. As I said, I rarely use Wn (Wind Navigation) mode on my system, so I have little experience with how the VMG Optimization function works there, but based on what I understand about the Wn mode works, the VMG function wouldn't actually do anything The optimized wind angle will always produce a speed through the water a bit slower than you could get if you bore off just a few degrees. Using the simplest possible analysis, if you are sailing 6 knots at a True Wind Angle of 55 degrees, anything better than 5.5 knots will give a better VMG at 49 degrees TWA I do not know if this function uses only speed through the water and true wind angle for it's calculation, or if it adds in course and speed over ground. I emailed B&G's tech support asking that question, but never got an answer. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Gloucester, Mass
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