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Re: New old maramu !

Andy Croney
 

Congratulations Miles !

Welcome to this oasis of advice and information.

We are sure you will make many , many happy memories with your ( new ) Maramu :-)

Fair winds

Andy and Fifi
SV Paladin #75


Batterie not disconnected

eljaroellinghoff@...
 

Hello everyone
I just got yesterday at the left of the boat forgot to switch off the batteries.
There are 60 days not on Board now.
All other consumers are switched off.
This can cause the discharge of batteries coming through the selfdischarge of the tank's and volt meter?

Tanks Elja SM Balu #222#


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Meltem for sale

Ron Hynes <riffhynes@...>
 

I'm not Dutch but riffhynes@... boat is registered in the Netherlands. Just arrived in Canary Islands. Have several interested people from Amel forum. 

Ron Hynes
954.319.0944

On Aug 24, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Amel Sharki amel.sharki.charmedii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Ron,

I light be interested. Are you Dutch? Cause I AM....

Kind regards, Hajé Weisfelt




Op 13 jul. 2017 4:27 a.m. schreef "Ron Hynes riffhynes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:
 

Age and crew issues have combined to force the sale of my 1976 Amel Meltem. Experienced blue water cruiser with 2 circumnavigations under her keel.  Sound, solid vessel.


Lightning strike in June, 2015 resulted in total replacement of wind, depth, speed, radar and autopilot as well as alternator and charger/inverter, VHF, AIS w/splitter and Go-Free WIFI, HDTV and stereo (basically all electronics replaced).  New B&G Zeus and Triton equipment. 


Volvo MD32 rebuilt by certified rebuilder in Sneek, Netherlands in June, 2016. (Approximately 600 hours on since rebuild) at which time standing rigging was also replaced.  Topsides Awlgripped (White) then also.  New refrigeration/freezer (Frigoboat) June, 2016 draws about 1A per hour. Decks need refinishing. Presently lying in Majorca, Spain, but might consider delivery to other local. 


B/O over €50k takes it.  Full particulars supplied to your email response. 


Ron Hynes
A/V Swan Song
1976 Amel Meltem #29



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Greasing the Bamar 1.01 Furler

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Dean,

I have no direct knowledge about most of the following. All of my knowledge comes from reviewing Bamar manuals and  working with the Bamar furler  with several Amel School clients, but I will try to help you...so here goes... 

If you have the Bamar furler that came with your 54, it is belt-driven rather than their new and improved gear driven model.  The 1.01 & 1.02 and the 2.01& 2.02 are belt driven models. 

Amel and Bamar had some serious disagreements over these belt driven models, that resulted in the two companies ceasing to do business. Amel switched to Reckmann which makes a  fine gear-driven furler. Other owners have been referred by Amel to Bamar. Bamar updated their furler assortment offering gear-driven models instead of belt-driven. At that time Bamar wrote an open letter to 54 owners offering a reduced price to upgrade to their new gear driven model. If you are not aware of this, I can send you a copy. 

See if you can open both Port and Stbd sides of the furler to locate where the noise is coming from. It could be a number of things including the 4 brushes inside the motor. If you think it may be brushes inside the motor, write me for a procedure to open the motor. 

I hope this helps you. How long have you owned #154?


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   


On Aug 27, 2017 3:07 AM, "trifin@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All,

Our Bamar 1.01 staysail furling motor is very noisy.

I've read previous threads, and one thing which was suggested was to re-grease the gearing mechanism.

This part of the furler is not detailed in my manual. 

Can someone please advise if it is the nameplate (aft facing) which needs to be removed in order to access the gearing?

I can undo the four screws, but I'm not sure exactly how to remove the plate which is still quite firm.

Just thought I'd check before taking to it with a screwdriver!

Many thanks

Dean

SY Stella

Amel 54 #154




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Forestay replacement on Nirvana furler equipped Maramu

James Alton
 


Graham,

    Could you kindly also send me a copy of the drawing?

Thank you,

James Alton Lokiyawl2 at aol.com
SV Sueno, Maramu #220
Currently cruising the East coast of Sardinia


Sent from Samsung tablet.

-------- Original message --------
From: "grahamjohnston42@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 8/27/17 11:33 (GMT+01:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Forestay replacement on Nirvana furler equipped Maramu

 

Hello,
Yes I have the drawing and can send it to you.
I am not quite sure what you mean regarding the mainsail gearbox, are you referring to the manual or the one mounted on the electric motor?
I will need an email address.

Regards,
Graham


Re: Forestay replacement on Nirvana furler equipped Maramu

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Hello,
Yes I have the drawing and can send it to you.
I am not quite sure what you mean regarding the mainsail gearbox, are you referring to the manual or the one mounted on the electric motor?
I will need an email address.

Regards,
Graham


Greasing the Bamar 1.01 Furler

Dean Gillies
 

Hi All,

Our Bamar 1.01 staysail furling motor is very noisy.

I've read previous threads, and one thing which was suggested was to re-grease the gearing mechanism.

This part of the furler is not detailed in my manual. 

Can someone please advise if it is the nameplate (aft facing) which needs to be removed in order to access the gearing?

I can undo the four screws, but I'm not sure exactly how to remove the plate which is still quite firm.

Just thought I'd check before taking to it with a screwdriver!

Many thanks

Dean

SY Stella

Amel 54 #154



Re: Bilge maitenance

jhe1313@...
 

Thanks much everyone for the advice! I will get a wet vac! As regards the bleach, maybe clean off the hoses with it using a bucket and then use it sparingly on the bilge itself?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maitenance

Steve Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
 

Bill K.,

I wish my copper still looked like new.  Here is what I pulled out after discovering on my first passage as a new owner that the aft holding tank emptied into the access area below the shower pan.


Bleach was most likely the culprit as there was next to nothing left under the hose clamp that held the bonding wire.  I replaced the copper with a piece of fiberglass pipe as Mark from Creampuff suggested.  

All the best,
Steve Morrison
SM380 TouRai
Brunswick, GA


On 26 August 2017, at 11:19 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Bill,


I hear you, but anything over 50ppm free chorine is not recommended even for relatively short term contact with copper.  1/2 cup of bleach in a gallon is about 1,250ppm free chlorine. I don't worry about the pumps.  Contact there, if any, is really short.  The grounding strap is where I see the real problem soaking for an hour at a time every two months. 

It is certainly not as bad as dropping calcium hypochlorite tablets in and leaving them for long term (Ouch!), but is it still shortening the life of the copper grounding strap un-necessarily.  We can argue forever if the corrosion rate is enough to make a real world difference, but since bleach is not really needed, in my thinking, it is better avoided.

I am betting chlorine bleach is one of the reasons so many people have problems with the copper fittings in their holding tanks corroding, since adding bleach is a common (and bad!) recommendation there as well.  I had the hoses off one of my tanks today, and after 20 years of full time liveaboard service, the copper looks like new.  So we know that it is not the normal "stuff" in the holding tank that corrodes other boat's copper fittings...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Bill,

You are correct, however some of the recommendations in this thread were much higher than I gave which was 1/2 cup to a gallon of water for 1 hour, then use a wet vac to suck it out...then add 8 liters of fresh water. Additionally, if they follow my method, the "bleach" never reaches the pumps.

It is a common recommendation in Europe to place a spa chlorine tablet in the bilge and the sea chest. I know because I have been told by some Europeans, and because I have read this on the French Amel Owners Group. Unfortunately, this is really bad advice and ruins lots of things. I saw more copper saltwater manifolds fail on European owned Amels than others. I assume it is because of this misinformation.

Again, you are correct, Bill, too much is really bad.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maitenance

greatketch@...
 

Bill,

I hear you, but anything over 50ppm free chorine is not recommended even for relatively short term contact with copper.  1/2 cup of bleach in a gallon is about 1,250ppm free chlorine. I don't worry about the pumps.  Contact there, if any, is really short.  The grounding strap is where I see the real problem soaking for an hour at a time every two months. 

It is certainly not as bad as dropping calcium hypochlorite tablets in and leaving them for long term (Ouch!), but is it still shortening the life of the copper grounding strap un-necessarily.  We can argue forever if the corrosion rate is enough to make a real world difference, but since bleach is not really needed, in my thinking, it is better avoided.

I am betting chlorine bleach is one of the reasons so many people have problems with the copper fittings in their holding tanks corroding, since adding bleach is a common (and bad!) recommendation there as well.  I had the hoses off one of my tanks today, and after 20 years of full time liveaboard service, the copper looks like new.  So we know that it is not the normal "stuff" in the holding tank that corrodes other boat's copper fittings...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass




---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote :

Bill,

You are correct, however some of the recommendations in this thread were much higher than I gave which was 1/2 cup to a gallon of water for 1 hour, then use a wet vac to suck it out...then add 8 liters of fresh water. Additionally, if they follow my method, the "bleach" never reaches the pumps.

It is a common recommendation in Europe to place a spa chlorine tablet in the bilge and the sea chest. I know because I have been told by some Europeans, and because I have read this on the French Amel Owners Group. Unfortunately, this is really bad advice and ruins lots of things. I saw more copper saltwater manifolds fail on European owned Amels than others. I assume it is because of this misinformation.

Again, you are correct, Bill, too much is really bad.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maitenance

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

You are correct, however some of the recommendations in this thread were much higher than I gave which was 1/2 cup to a gallon of water for 1 hour, then use a wet vac to suck it out...then add 8 liters of fresh water. Additionally, if they follow my method, the "bleach" never reaches the pumps.

It is a common recommendation in Europe to place a spa chlorine tablet in the bilge and the sea chest. I know because I have been told by some Europeans, and because I have read this on the French Amel Owners Group. Unfortunately, this is really bad advice and ruins lots of things. I saw more copper saltwater manifolds fail on European owned Amels than others. I assume it is because of this misinformation.

Again, you are correct, Bill, too much is really bad.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:39 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I know bleach (sodium hypochlorite) is a great cleaning agent, but in the concentrations being talked about it is actually quite corrosive to copper.  It would be best to avoid its frequent use in the sump if you want you copper grounding strap to last.


Bill Kinney
SM160m Harmonie
Boston, Mass



Re: Bilge maitenance

greatketch@...
 

I know bleach (sodium hypochlorite) is a great cleaning agent, but in the concentrations being talked about it is actually quite corrosive to copper.  It would be best to avoid its frequent use in the sump if you want you copper grounding strap to last.

Bill Kinney
SM160m Harmonie
Boston, Mass


Re: New Owners - SM #105 It's Real

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hello Mark & Jennifer and full props to the Great State of Texas!
We too just closed on our Amel JOY #388 formerly (Bamboozle). We envy you as we cannot move aboard for a handful of months yet. We're stuck in Utah living in the transition trailer (hot as HELL) and working for a few more months (I'll expalin over a drink some day..hopefully soon). Enjoy your well found craft as I can only day dream of sailing ours. Kim and I look forward to meeting you both and many others on our planned travels.

Best Regards and Best of Wishes,
Chuck & Kim
SM2K Joy
S.L.C Utah 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Oh, Jazz. Not much of an Amel except the hull. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Aug 26, 2017 6:32 PM, "Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Miles, I believe you purchased “Jazz”. As I recall it does not have the same lifelines & stanchions as Amel , no motorized Genoa furler, or the motorized main  and outhaul furler, it has new rigging, sails and possibly new mast, and  no  Amel struts or twin downwind poles. The engine and wiring  has also been replaced. My Santorin (46’) has twin slots with the Genoa  installed on the port luff and the ballooner (when used) is hauled on the strbd sluff.  My point is that many of the unique  Amel systems may not apply. It sounds like the former owner spent a bundle and you got a great deal. I am no expert on Amels but I am learning after 13 years how great my Santorin is. Has the former owner given you any history on the boat?

All the best,

Ric Gottschalk

Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration

 

 

Ah yes I wasn't thinking straight. 

 Thanks Bill!

So I think I'll do as per my old boat and add a second removable forestay. Attachments Positioned as high up the mast as possible and as far fwd on deck as possible whilst leaving clearance for the furler. 

 

Perhaps this time I'll keep it really simple and have the stay as integral to the sail luff although a separate ss stay does give the option of setting a storm jib on the same wire if needed. 

 

Size of the sail would be quite a bit smaller than the furling genoa and of reasonable weight cloth. The idea here on my old boat was the non furling sail was small enough and strong enough to stay up in squalls

 

 

Alternatively does anyone know where the amel 3 luff grove system can be purchased?

 

Fair winds

 

Miles

Sea love

Maramu 46



On 18 Aug 2017, at 12:19, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

If you raise 2 headsails on one foil with 2 halyards, you will not be able to furl without dropping the additional (second) sail. 

 

Think about what will happen to the second halyard when furling. Amel's special swivel which allows you to secure the second sail and remove its halyard is the only solution. And, it requires 3 slots. The 3rd is for the "dehooker."


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

 

On Aug 18, 2017 4:35 AM, "smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hello again

The maramu 46 we have bought doesn't have the original furling system.

It has a recently added frofurl ndec 430

I pick up the boat on tues 😎 but believe it has a twin luff grove

So parhaps my only option will be to add a second genoa halyard and hoist the second sail on the second luff groove

That way least I'll be able to raise and lower each sail independently. 

The original mouse plus 3 luff groove system  looks brilliant !

I wonder if I could replace the foil and swivel?

Is this the kind of thing amel might still supply or does anyone know the manufacturer of the amel furling system?

Many thanks

Miles


On 17 Aug 2017, at 19:10, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi there Bill

I dont have a manual I'm afraid 


All the best

M


On 16 Aug 2017, at 22:41, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Miles,

He best

Read your manual...it is very straightforward. Let me know if you do not have a manual.

 

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

 


Re: Bilge maitenance

Paul Osterberg
 

Besides being very careful in what's get down to the bilge, more or less do ass Bill describeds, in addition to that we have a ladies sock as a filter collecting remaining solids that might go down the bilge attached at the outlets in the bilge. Now and then we add a machine dish tablet dissolved in hot water. I't keeps the bilge rather clean. I will now also start to use bleach as others have advices.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Miles, I believe you purchased “Jazz”. As I recall it does not have the same lifelines & stanchions as Amel , no motorized Genoa furler, or the motorized main  and outhaul furler, it has new rigging, sails and possibly new mast, and  no  Amel struts or twin downwind poles. The engine and wiring  has also been replaced. My Santorin (46’) has twin slots with the Genoa  installed on the port luff and the ballooner (when used) is hauled on the strbd sluff.  My point is that many of the unique  Amel systems may not apply. It sounds like the former owner spent a bundle and you got a great deal. I am no expert on Amels but I am learning after 13 years how great my Santorin is. Has the former owner given you any history on the boat?

All the best,

Ric Gottschalk

Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration

 

 

Ah yes I wasn't thinking straight. 

 Thanks Bill!

So I think I'll do as per my old boat and add a second removable forestay. Attachments Positioned as high up the mast as possible and as far fwd on deck as possible whilst leaving clearance for the furler. 

 

Perhaps this time I'll keep it really simple and have the stay as integral to the sail luff although a separate ss stay does give the option of setting a storm jib on the same wire if needed. 

 

Size of the sail would be quite a bit smaller than the furling genoa and of reasonable weight cloth. The idea here on my old boat was the non furling sail was small enough and strong enough to stay up in squalls

 

 

Alternatively does anyone know where the amel 3 luff grove system can be purchased?

 

Fair winds

 

Miles

Sea love

Maramu 46



On 18 Aug 2017, at 12:19, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If you raise 2 headsails on one foil with 2 halyards, you will not be able to furl without dropping the additional (second) sail. 

 

Think about what will happen to the second halyard when furling. Amel's special swivel which allows you to secure the second sail and remove its halyard is the only solution. And, it requires 3 slots. The 3rd is for the "dehooker."


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

 

On Aug 18, 2017 4:35 AM, "smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello again

The maramu 46 we have bought doesn't have the original furling system.

It has a recently added frofurl ndec 430

I pick up the boat on tues 😎 but believe it has a twin luff grove

So parhaps my only option will be to add a second genoa halyard and hoist the second sail on the second luff groove

That way least I'll be able to raise and lower each sail independently. 

The original mouse plus 3 luff groove system  looks brilliant !

I wonder if I could replace the foil and swivel?

Is this the kind of thing amel might still supply or does anyone know the manufacturer of the amel furling system?

Many thanks

Miles


On 17 Aug 2017, at 19:10, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi there Bill

I dont have a manual I'm afraid 


All the best

M


On 16 Aug 2017, at 22:41, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Miles,

He best

Read your manual...it is very straightforward. Let me know if you do not have a manual.

 

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge maitenance

Mark Erdos
 

 

Joerg,

 

I am not sure how the 55 is configured but I have a couple of tips.

 

I remove the float switch. I put about 2 cups of bleach into the bilge and fill it to the top. I let it sit for most of the day. This will loosen any soap scum etc. You could also use bilge cleaner fluid. I use a toilet brush attached to a longer stick to scrub the sides. I then connect the wires together to activate the the bilge pump (the wires that attach to the switch on the float). This will pump out the water. I use a shop vac with a long tube to suck up any larger bits and completely dry the bilge. Sometimes I have to fluch a couple of times using a fresh water hose.

 

This is a good time to eye the copper wire that connects to the keel bolt to ensure all is okay. Then, I replace the float switch.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 2:25 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge maitenance

 

 

I am new to Amels and would like to understand best practices how to keep the bilge clean. On the A55 it seems very difficult to really scrub the bilge - for one, all the hoses need to come out, in addition to the tube with the float switch and only a contortionist can really reach all the places. I am thinking about getting a pressure washer to make things easier. Or are there chemicals one can use to dissolve the slime of soap and organic waste that seems to accumulate on the tube and hoses? Standard bilge cleaner seems to do nothing. Many thanks!

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #37
Currently in southern Italy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge maitenance

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Joerg,

The following is a copy of the text only of a page in my Amel School book:

I believe that it is important to clean it regularly, probably every 2 months, and to limit what you allow to get in there.

For instance, always wipe completely clean anything in the galley that has any oil or grease on it...use a paper towel and toss the towel in the garbage. Use shower gel rather than bar soap. Try to minimize what goes into gray water drains.
 
1. Empty as much water as possible using the manual bilge pump until it sucks air
2. Place a towel over the C-Drive and engine angle iron frame to protect it from water
3. Remove the two wires to the Gray Water Float Switch Assembly
4. Pull the gray colored Float Switch Assembly toward aft out of its clamps and up placing the wet end in a bucket and handing it to crew on deck. Have crew clean it & continue
5. Pull each of the pump hoses up one at a time while using degreaser/cleaner to clean each as you pull it out. Then place the end of the hose pointed up and to the side
6. Using a wet/vacuum, suck the remainder from the bottom, until totally dry
7. Visually inspect the bonding strap
8. Pour ½ cup of bleach that you use for washing white clothes into the galley sink, followed by about 4 liters of water from the galley tap…all will drain into the gray water bilge
9. Let this stand at least an hour, then using a wet/vacuum, suck it dry again
10. Reassemble all completely and with the galley tap add 8 liters of water
11. Keep an eye on the bilge to ensure that when the float switch reaches its limit, the switch will energize the pump and the pump cycles pumping all out except about 3-4 liters of water. If it does not, something was done wrong, or something has come loose.
12. Remember the most common mistakes are: NOT connecting the switch wires. A suction leak on the suction hose. Use two well-tightened clamps at the pump. If the hose is brittle, replace it. Expect 5-8 years life before becoming brittle.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:25 PM, jhe1313@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am new to Amels and would like to understand best practices how to keep the bilge clean. On the A55 it seems very difficult to really scrub the bilge - for one, all the hoses need to come out, in addition to the tube with the float switch and only a contortionist can really reach all the places. I am thinking about getting a pressure washer to make things easier. Or are there chemicals one can use to dissolve the slime of soap and organic waste that seems to accumulate on the tube and hoses? Standard bilge cleaner seems to do nothing. Many thanks!

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #37
Currently in southern Italy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Down wind sail configuration

smiles bernard
 

Ah yes I wasn't thinking straight. 
 Thanks Bill!
So I think I'll do as per my old boat and add a second removable forestay. Attachments Positioned as high up the mast as possible and as far fwd on deck as possible whilst leaving clearance for the furler. 

Perhaps this time I'll keep it really simple and have the stay as integral to the sail luff although a separate ss stay does give the option of setting a storm jib on the same wire if needed. 
 
Size of the sail would be quite a bit smaller than the furling genoa and of reasonable weight cloth. The idea here on my old boat was the non furling sail was small enough and strong enough to stay up in squalls


Alternatively does anyone know where the amel 3 luff grove system can be purchased?

Fair winds

Miles
Sea love
Maramu 46


On 18 Aug 2017, at 12:19, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If you raise 2 headsails on one foil with 2 halyards, you will not be able to furl without dropping the additional (second) sail. 

Think about what will happen to the second halyard when furling. Amel's special swivel which allows you to secure the second sail and remove its halyard is the only solution. And, it requires 3 slots. The 3rd is for the "dehooker."


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Aug 18, 2017 4:35 AM, "smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello again
The maramu 46 we have bought doesn't have the original furling system.
It has a recently added frofurl ndec 430
I pick up the boat on tues 😎 but believe it has a twin luff grove
So parhaps my only option will be to add a second genoa halyard and hoist the second sail on the second luff groove
That way least I'll be able to raise and lower each sail independently. 
The original mouse plus 3 luff groove system  looks brilliant !
I wonder if I could replace the foil and swivel?
Is this the kind of thing amel might still supply or does anyone know the manufacturer of the amel furling system?
Many thanks
Miles

On 17 Aug 2017, at 19:10, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi there Bill
I dont have a manual I'm afraid 

All the best
M

On 16 Aug 2017, at 22:41, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Miles,
He best
Read your manual...it is very straightforward. Let me know if you do not have a manual.


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owners - SM #105 It's Real

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Have a great first meal on board. We just got to Italy after 2 years in Greece. The med is a great cultural place to cruise. The wind and wind direction is usually pretty fickle, but the Amel is great boat for having many options to quickly adjust to. Changing conditions.

I'm sure you'll love yours as every other AMEL owner that we have met. I believe Amel owners are considered a cult not because of the type of people Amel attracts. It is because once you have experienced sailing her in sometimes challenging conditions, you'll find out how capable she is and how confident you can be in her bringing you through all conditions, as long as you have the experience to command her properly.

You'll find out over time as you start working on different systems, that Amels are built right from the bottom up. They are not built just to look good in a showroom. You will find excellent workmanship and quality control throughout the boat.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Mark Garver mgarver@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Thanks Mohammad! First we don't intend to modify anything so we don't need to worry about the keeper of All Things Amel (Bill Rouse) haunting me in my dreams :). Our current (shorter term) plans are to sail the Chesapeake as time allows, and then in November move the boat to Charleston, SC for the winter and make some short trips from there. We intend to repeat this, with some sails down to St. Maarten and surrounding areas for the next two to three years, at that point I plan on heading south, spend some time in the Caribbean where I have the most experience and then either the South Pacific, or possibly the Med. It's tough to chose for us as we have both traveled a lot (her mostly by plane), me planes, trains, boats and automobiles... However, neither us have really done any travel in the South Pacific outside of New Zealand and Australia. So we will see. Where are y'all located?

Again thanks for the welcome! We are excited! Tonight we will be having our first meal and toast aboard!

Mark and Jennifer
S/V It's Real
Amel SM #105

On Aug 26, 2017, at 09:35 AM, "'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Welcome mark and Jennifer. We believe you have made a great choice. After 2-1/2 years of owing our 54 we still cannot believe how well designed this vessel is for a couple cruising any where in the world. Take your time to get to know her and don't modify anything. You'll find over time that most everything is designed and built for specific reasons. Most importantly you have the confidence that over 3000 of the same design concept has been built and is cruising the world.

What is your cruising plan?

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Aug 26, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mark Garver mgarver@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Hi everyone! My wife and I just closed on our first Amel Super Maramu, "It's Good" and are very excited to be a part of the "cult" of Amel owners. We are from Texas, just north of Houston and have been looking for our blue water boat for a while now, and kept coming back to Amel. When we began this search there was an abundance of them available, and now when you look the inventory has been greatly reduced. We are currently moving things aboard, pulling everything out to clean and to inventory. I found out about the forum via some friends on Cruisers Forum, and had been reading the posts and joined shortly after my wife and I visited VA to look at a potential SM on Memorial Day this year. Much as it was when I met my wife... as soon as I saw her I knew it was the vessel! As with when my wife met me, she needed time for It's Good to grow on her (Only took a weekend)! Thank you all for making this decision even easier for us and we look forward to being in this community with y'all.

Mark and Jennifer
S/V It's Good
Amel SM #105