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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] gasoline smell

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

When we have to store a fuel tank of any kind in the
aft locker we put in a heavy plastic the bag and wire
tie it. That keeps the oders from the rest of the
boat.

We used C-map for eletronic charts in the Med. they
worked very well.. We also made good use of the Imray
Almanac for the Med. it cost a bit but has all the
ports.

The I-Com 802 with the Pactor III is about as good as
it get for HF/SSB.

We found that we got good reception on the SSB in the
Med at most times of the day.

Good luck. Richard and Joan SM 209
In Annapolis
--- dr_hofschulte <Dr.Hofschulte@t-online.de> wrote:

I mean gasoline smell from the gasoline for the
outboarder.
I think there is only one locker which has no
connection to the inside
rooms, this is the locker for the life-raft.This
locker is not
suitably for a gasoline tank to stow away. For the
other lockers it is
neccessary to have the connection to close them from
inside.
So I think there is no real solution. We have to put
the tanks outside.

There is also annother question: may be this year or
latest next year
we want to go to the mediterranean eastern part,
turkey.
We have windows XP on board, what do you think is
now the best electronic
chart programm and what are the best charts? May be
we will go after
the mediterranean to the caribic.
What SSB is recommended to buy, and which kind of
antenna? To send and
to receive e-mails via SSB? Pactor ?
I have got the e-mails the last four years and it
was very interesting
for me to read all the messages. Last year we bought
the three years
old Sm in the baltic and we are happy with our
Johanna-Amalthea.
Thanks alot for your answers.It helps realy much.



Hans Germany baltic sea
Johanna-Amalthea Sm # 436




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gasoline smell

dr_hofschulte
 

I mean gasoline smell from the gasoline for the outboarder.
I think there is only one locker which has no connection to the inside
rooms, this is the locker for the life-raft.This locker is not
suitably for a gasoline tank to stow away. For the other lockers it is
neccessary to have the connection to close them from inside.
So I think there is no real solution. We have to put the tanks outside.

There is also annother question: may be this year or latest next year
we want to go to the mediterranean eastern part, turkey.
We have windows XP on board, what do you think is now the best electronic
chart programm and what are the best charts? May be we will go after
the mediterranean to the caribic.
What SSB is recommended to buy, and which kind of antenna? To send and
to receive e-mails via SSB? Pactor ?
I have got the e-mails the last four years and it was very interesting
for me to read all the messages. Last year we bought the three years
old Sm in the baltic and we are happy with our Johanna-Amalthea.
Thanks alot for your answers.It helps realy much.



Hans Germany baltic sea
Johanna-Amalthea Sm # 436


Re: gasoline smell

edmund_steele
 

Do you mean diesel smell? We carry spare diesel in plastic jerry jugs
in the stern locker but as long as the caps are screwed down tight
there is no leakage from these.

Our problem gasoline smell is usually from the outboard tank and it's
quick disconnect hose. For safety reasons we usually store it above
deck under the captain's chair in the cockpit or if we are carrying an
inflated dinghy across the mizzen deck, we just set the outboard's tank
inside the dinghy.

We have noticed a persistent diesel smell when sailing in a choppy sea
with the wind blowing in certain directions. Each time this has
happened, I have checked the stern locker and the engine room for leaks
and found none. The culprit is the diesel tank vent hose that produces
fumes when the contents of the tank are being slopped around.

Ed
SV Doodlebug SM#331


Re: gasoline smell

patrick.naegels <patrick.naegels@...>
 

No way, the best place is on the deck. We put a plank on each board
of the boat where we fasten 5 jerrycans. Total 200 litres available.
Enough to sail 900 miles at 1600 R/m on flat sea.

Patrick (SM2K - Caramel - hull #329)

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--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "dr_hofschulte"
<Dr.Hofschulte@...> wrote:

we identified our plastic jerry cans to be the real cause for
permanent gasoline smell on board of our AMEL Super Maramu 2004. We
finally decided to tie them on deck. There, however, they are
exposed
to all kinds of environmental stresses and are not handsome. Is
there
anyone in our Amel community, who could advise us, where and how we
could store them below deck without running again into the same
smell
problem?"

Best regards and a happy New Year for all of you

Hans-Joachim Hofschulte Germany baltic sea
Sm # 436


gasoline smell

dr_hofschulte
 

we identified our plastic jerry cans to be the real cause for
permanent gasoline smell on board of our AMEL Super Maramu 2004. We
finally decided to tie them on deck. There, however, they are exposed
to all kinds of environmental stresses and are not handsome. Is there
anyone in our Amel community, who could advise us, where and how we
could store them below deck without running again into the same smell
problem?"

Best regards and a happy New Year for all of you

Hans-Joachim Hofschulte Germany baltic sea
Sm # 436


Re: 110 volts from the SM2 Onan genset

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Bill:

See the spec sheet I just uploaded to the files section and see if that
helps. Yours is probably the same as mine (-Onan Model # 7MDKAL-431 with
Kubota Model V1505EBG 1.5 liter YKBXLD1.5 BCC 164 KW 22 hp)
The spec sheet shows it is a dual voltage genset. Perhaps there are
two voltage outputs on a panel somewhere.

Gary

- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:


Does anyone know if the SM2 7.5kw Onan genset will deliver 110 volts
50hz at the same time as 230 volts 50hz? I have a shop vac and
buffer/sander that I would like to power from the genset without a
step-down transformer.

Best,


Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
currently in Panama
photos and logs at www.svbebe.com


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110 volts from the SM2 Onan genset

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Does anyone know if the SM2 7.5kw Onan genset will deliver 110 volts
50hz at the same time as 230 volts 50hz? I have a shop vac and
buffer/sander that I would like to power from the genset without a
step-down transformer.

Best,


Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
currently in Panama
photos and logs at www.svbebe.com


New to group

travelviaoceans <travelviaoceans@...>
 

Hello to all,

I am new to this group and am searching for some info on later model
Amels, 1995 and up.
I am looking for a new cruising/live aboard boat. My sailing experience
is from a Pearson Commander in the early 70's to an Andrews70 that I
just sold.
I am very impressed with the Amels and was wondering if anyone had some
info as to boat speed.
Are these boats capable of 200 miles a day under normal cruising? Are
there any inherent problems offshore with the boats, things that should
be addressed or rreplaced prior to taking off.
The propulsion systems seems to transfer a lot of power through
different angles, does this have it's own set of problems.
Thanking you all in advance for reading this and to those that will
take the time to respond.
Happy New Year to all.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: removing Freezer/Refrig unit under bench seat in salon

leonorebt@...
 

JP, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,

Thank you for your thoughts. I figured it out. There are 6 or so screws accessable from removing the floor board under the table and three nut and bolts at the far port side. The trouble maker is at the bottom starboard aft corner where there is a long screw through the freezer framework into the passageway floorboard. It is blocked from unscrewing by a two screw block of wood in front of the head. You have to get at it from the storage space under the passageway floor boards. You have to be plastic man to unscrew the blocking screws from above by reaching them from below. Once the blocking block is out you can access the long screw facing starboard from the same location. I could not remove but one screw because my hands were too big and rubbed against the insulation of the freezer. I had a small fellow reach up and remove the other two screws and then the whole freezer unit with the compressor just lifted out very easily. Of course the electrical connections had to be removed which was easy. Hope this helps those with same goal of accessing the third section of the water tank.

Greetings to all, Bill Rahmig SM72, Leonore of Sark

----- Original Message -----
From: galacsea2000
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 12/25/2007 9:10:28 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: removing Freezer/Refrig unit under bench seat in salon


I do not have an answer for you but it seems to me that Joel Potter (Amel USA) or Olivier
Beaute (Amel Fr) should be able to address your question. They can be reached as follows:
Olivier : amel(at)amel.fr Subject: Message for O.Beaute (SAV)
Joel: jfpottercys@worldnet.att.net
Hope they will be helpful. Please share your findings with the group.
Good luck and merry xmas
JP


Re: removing Freezer/Refrig unit under bench seat in salon

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

I do not have an answer for you but it seems to me that Joel Potter (Amel USA) or Olivier
Beaute (Amel Fr) should be able to address your question. They can be reached as follows:
Olivier : amel(at)amel.fr Subject: Message for O.Beaute (SAV)
Joel: jfpottercys@worldnet.att.net
Hope they will be helpful. Please share your findings with the group.
Good luck and merry xmas
JP


Expansion tanks

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

The tank behind the genset started leaking after about two years. I
made a temporary repair with aradite and bought an identical new one
for £11stg (US$20) at a shop supplying irrigation equipment for farmers
here in Malta. I believe the early failure was due to electrolysis
between the steel tank and the copper T connecting it to the system.I
relaced it with plastic and no further problems.

Happy Christmas, Anne and John, SM 319


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hot water expansion tank, Sulajon

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi John You dont say what number your SM is. Ours ( no 302) has two expansion tanks, one on the pump itself and a separate one. Our separate one developed a hole ( electrolysis?) after about 4 years. I should have replaced it with a plastic version but the metal replacement is showing no signs of problems at the moment.
My guess is that you can run the pump without the expansion tank though it will cycle on and off more .
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay

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Re: Hot water expansion tank, Sulajon

Naegels Patrick <naegels@...>
 

Hi John,

Last year, I dismantled expansion tank from pump body, and I remarked
corrosion on linking screwed hose. I don't know what kind of metal
used, but it's not convenient. Almost 30% of this material
disappeared.

You can use water circuit without tank expansion mounted on the
pump, because there is another one behind Genset. But replace it when
it's possible

Patrick - Caramel (SM2000 #329)

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--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jfolino901"
<jfolino901@...> wrote:

Has anyone found all the tank water gone without a reason? I did
today.
It turns out my 750 liters leaked from a hole in the expansion tank
into tghe bilge which while I sailed along oblivious to the
problem,
only to find the water pump running when I got to port. I checked
the
water tank, found it to be empty?? How? I ran the water maker, made
some water & ran the water pump. Seeing a flow of water I searched
and
found a hole in the expansion. I disconnected the expansion tank,
stuck
a tapered wooden plug into the hose, made more water, turned the
water
pump on & water pressure.
As for the tank, I'll get one.

What is the downside of no expansion tank? Any suggestions short
term?

John Folino


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Hot water expansion tank, Sulajon

jfolino901 <jfolino901@...>
 

Has anyone found all the tank water gone without a reason? I did today.
It turns out my 750 liters leaked from a hole in the expansion tank
into tghe bilge which while I sailed along oblivious to the problem,
only to find the water pump running when I got to port. I checked the
water tank, found it to be empty?? How? I ran the water maker, made
some water & ran the water pump. Seeing a flow of water I searched and
found a hole in the expansion. I disconnected the expansion tank, stuck
a tapered wooden plug into the hose, made more water, turned the water
pump on & water pressure.
As for the tank, I'll get one.

What is the downside of no expansion tank? Any suggestions short term?

John Folino


Re: H6 AutoProp Overhaul Photos Posted

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill and Judy:
Thanks, Let me use this opportunity to put into the record my response to an email I
received from Bill Melbourne inquiring about where I purchased my overhaul kit:

Hi Bill:

Yes, I purchased the overhaul kit from AB Marine, Their contact information is listed on the
Overhaul Instructions Sheet and is:

AB Marine, Inc, 747 Aquidneck Ave., Middletown, RI 02842
Tele: 401-847-7960, Fax 401-849-0631
Email: sales@AB-Marine.com www. AB-Maraine.com

They were very helpful. I purchased only their "peg spanner" and only did so after
inquiring about what tools I would need. The "tab spanner" isn't really necessary as I was
able to remove the tab locking screw by tapping on it with a punch. The locking nut was
the largest hurdle, so I would recommend that you purchase or make a locking nut
spanner. When you call AB marine ask them about tools and purchase what they have
available. I would buy the four pin peg spanner if they have it available. Their two pin peg
spanner was rather inadequate, and I let them know that. Be prepared for a bit of sticker
shock. The overhaul kit is about $500 USD.

Hope this helps. PS Purchase a set (3) of locking nuts (item 5), they are not included in
the overhaul kit.

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Gary,

Thanks again...we are really glad that your SM2 is slightly older than
ours...that way we get to follow your very detailed experiences.

Best,

Bill & Judy Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
docked at Shelter Bay Marina Panama


Re: H6 AutoProp Overhaul Photos Posted

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

Thanks again...we are really glad that your SM2 is slightly older than
ours...that way we get to follow your very detailed experiences.

Best,

Bill & Judy Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
docked at Shelter Bay Marina Panama


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

I just posted some photos in a new folder regarding the AutoProp
overhaul. See also the
Files sections for items related to AutoProp overhaul and other
maintenance.

Gary


: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

eric freedman
 

I have made 15 trips to the Caribbean via Bermuda.

Also numerous trips nonstop, trans Atlantic and others. I have been using
brown and brown insurance in Ft Lauderdale. They were recommended by Joel
Potter. They insure me with Hartford, a USA company.

In addition, al golden, jackline insurance will insure any trip including
Cape Horn with a USA insurance company.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Seidel
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 5:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [spam] Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance



I could not get any stateside Insurance carrier, including my own to
recently cover me on a trip from wilmington, NC to Bermuda. Had to go to
Lloyds of London. Cost 2,000 dollars on top of a 3200 dollar policy.
Everyone is having problems just to sail to Bermuda. Murray Seidel sm#349.
910-470-1225. Wilm, NC

----- Original Message -----
From: sailw32
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:05 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

I've been self-insured with my past boats.Now that I have purchased my
SM, I no longer can afford that risk.Speaking to my insurance agent,he
implied it getting harder thus more exspensive to underwrite an extened
offshore cruise.I've often wondered what others sailors did about
insurance and what they typically paid for coverage for a year of
cruising offshore.I'm awaiting a quote but I have no basis to assess if
its fair.I know that there is a lot of variables,such as hull value and
cruising grounds,however I'd still be interested to know what other
Amel owners do about insurance. Thanks,Patrick


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

I could not get any stateside Insurance carrier, including my own to recently cover me on a trip from wilmington, NC to Bermuda. Had to go to Lloyds of London. Cost 2,000 dollars on top of a 3200 dollar policy. Everyone is having problems just to sail to Bermuda. Murray Seidel sm#349. 910-470-1225. Wilm, NC

----- Original Message -----
From: sailw32
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:05 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance


I've been self-insured with my past boats.Now that I have purchased my
SM, I no longer can afford that risk.Speaking to my insurance agent,he
implied it getting harder thus more exspensive to underwrite an extened
offshore cruise.I've often wondered what others sailors did about
insurance and what they typically paid for coverage for a year of
cruising offshore.I'm awaiting a quote but I have no basis to assess if
its fair.I know that there is a lot of variables,such as hull value and
cruising grounds,however I'd still be interested to know what other
Amel owners do about insurance. Thanks,Patrick