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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel sharki

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for this really helpful info Roger
On my old boat (30ft!) I installed a removable inner forestay and used a hank on 80% gib on that poled out to windward

It worked a treat but I do like the idea of the system you describe. 
How big is the sail on the facnor compared to the main genoa?
Do you use a dyneema halyard?
Do you attach to the bow roller?

Many thanks in advance for any info

All the best
Miles



On 19 Sep 2017, at 16:50, hanoah64@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Miles,
The Sharki was intended to fly twin head sails off the same furler extrusion. I didn't like that approach so I set up a Facnor Code Zero type furler in front of my main Profurl furler. This allowed me fly twin head sails poled out...and the option of furling just one. I had a light weight sail made in South Africa that works well on the Facnor.
In the video the pole that's set up,....well, I probaly jibbed earlier and didn't bother taking it down.
When a squall comes up the Facnor sail, in its furled configuration needs to be lowered to the deck. This requires going forward, lowering the Spectra halyard and securing the furled sail on deck. If you leave the Facnor up in an intense squall, even with the doubled Spectra halyard as tight as possible, the unit will surge back and forth like it wants to take down your rig. Can be worrying.
If I run the risk of getting exhausted some times I ignore the poles and just fall off a few degrees.
Also, I use the Hydrovane exclusively, and have broached under twin head sails. So when it blows hard I am just as happy with a single jib, furled so nothing is chafing, and just off the wind enough so the vane can handle it.
Roger


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go Feedback

Porter McRoberts
 

Completely agree. 
Used outside external antenna fine but inside use an external. We connected with an adaptor to the existing iridium satellite phone antenna. 

That said. It usually takes 2-4 attempts to get a good connection. Voice calls scratchy and I'd say we achieve 50% information penetrance. Does anyone else have similar experiences?  Texting highly effective and reliable. 

Always appreciated

Porter McRoberts

54- hull152.  

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have used the Iridium Go for about 2 years, and love it. Connections are fairly reliable with the external antenna, but a bit frustrating without it. Spend the extra $300 for the external antenna, and you will be happy you did. 

Regards,

Aloha SM72
Santa Marta, Columbia

On Sep 19, 2017, at 09:29, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

To those of you using Iridium Go, did you find that it was necessary to get the Antenna?
Would love to hear about your user experience.

Many thanks

Thomas & Soraya


Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cruising Menorca, Spain



Re: Amel sharki

hanoah64@...
 

Miles,

We should also mention the Mizzen Stay Sail. If you are heading not dead down wind, but, off a little, (with or without pole), and the jib is setting nicely, but the main sail blocks the jib. This is when you furl the main and set the MSS. The MSS is a great sail, when you are off the wind does not block the jib, and can be set and taken down from the cockpit. Flying the genoa together with the MSS is like sailing with two jibs. Really fun. Cheers, Roger


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel head

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Allan, as I said since then I have been told that. However the unit never failed again so it did no harm and it would seem the grease stopped the salt penetrating again. BUT the expert advice is no grease. 

Regards

Danny

On 19 September 2017 at 20:53 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I would never ever put grease in anything like that. All it will do is hold on to salt and dirt and amplify any problems.
Best to just thoroughly rinse with fresh water, again and again......

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tangier Marina

Ron Hynes <riffhynes@...>
 

I stayed there in May. Surprised new marina is still not open as it looked
​just about ready
 in May. 

As most everywhere around the Med, the swell can get
​"​
interesting
​"​
.
​  Naturally, it all depends on the direction it's running.  The pilot books are very helpful.

Be prepared and patient with
​bureaucracy
 beyond
​what I doubt you've ever experienced before
.  It's all in how you
​react
. We thought it was funny
​ and were constantly giggling​
. Another cruiser raft
​e​
​d​
along side us
​resisted
 the authorities
​at every turn ​
and was told to leave. 

It seems the two major authorities, the police and customs are each vying to be most important. We had a minor engine problem and decided to stay another night. Fine said the police captain who I had some rapport with. An hour or so later, the chunky little customs guy is doing his rounds and spots us and goes non-linear. You must come with me immediately to
​my
 office
​that
 
​was
 at least a quarter of a mile
​ away​
. Once there he shuffle
​d​
papers for 10 minutes or so then tells
​me
 he is going to hold the ships registration papers and that I must return at 0900 to get stamped out and get my papers returned. Naturally, at 0900 there were no customs officials to
​deal
 with, so in desperation I went to the police captain who personally escorted me through the
​unfathomable
 procedure.  We had perhaps a half hour together and he told me of their plans to make Tanger a cruising destination with their new marina and the commercial development planned for the area. In turn I tried to politely tell him the entire 
​check in
 process needs to be revamped as most cruisers aren't going to spend 90 minutes
​or so ​
processing.
​But t​
hey just don't get it!
​  He said its very difficult to control smuggling, etc. without the procedures they follow.  ​I asked if they intended to move their offices as the new marina is even further.  He said no; boat captains would simply have to go further!

​All in all, we enjoyed ourselves immensely.  Wandering around the old city and the Kasbah is an experience.​  I enjoyed the food and the night time views were spectacular.  One of my all-time cruising highlights!  Fuel is even less expensive than Gibraltar although it has to be "arranged" for delivery through a middle man.

​We were moored along side a commercial wharf and I sustained some damage to my rubbing strake from an iron ladder I hadn't adequately fendered.  There is no electric or water.  We paid 25 Euros per might but I think this was negotiable.​

​My advice...don't miss it!​


Ron Hynes
​Swan Song, Amel Meltem currently in the Canaries​


On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:06 PM, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Hello,

We are thinking of stopping by Tangier Morocco later this season, and we were wondering if anyone has been there recently and could provide feedback on port/Marina facilities.
We have read the noonsite info and also know that the new Marina is not yet open.
Just wondering if anyone has experienced the tide in the old port and could report back on their stay there.

Thanks for your input.

Best Wishes,

Thomas & Soraya


Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cruising Menorca, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amfa domestic watrer pump.wired backwards from the factory.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Vladimir,

Lost power last night, I think this is from the little wind we had from Hurricane Marina, probably a short somewhere in the lines… so running on generator and little time to reply…
Thanks for offering, but I am good, I have everything.
But thanks very much for offering!!!
Alexandre



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On Tue, 9/19/17, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amfa domestic watrer pump.wired backwards from the factory.
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2017, 2:15 AM


 









Alex,
As it stands now, we plan sailing trip to
Antigua in November with Salty Dawg s

If it goes forward we can bring something to you from US
take you to Antigua.

You can contact me sonsev52 that is gml.
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"

Vladimir Sonsev

Tel/Text: 202 258 1916

On Sep 18, 2017 8:26 AM,
"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good morning Paul,



Thank you for your email.



I think Hurricane Maria is too far from Sint Maarten to have
any effect, but I feel for Dominica and may be south of
Guadeloupe.



I have LOTS of spare parts.

The only things I did not save were the rudder zinc because
of their weight/price ratio and the water maker filter
because of their volume/price ratio.



Once I am done replying all the encouragement message I
received on Facebook (Amel NIKIMAT) and post of the
hurricane preparation and evacuation, I will start to take
pictures and describe what I have.



Hope we meet and glad you are safe in Grenada!

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 9/17/17, pstas2003 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amfa domestic watrer
pump.wired backwards from the factory.

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

Date: Sunday, September 17, 2017, 9:25 PM





 



















Alex,



Glad to hear

things are getting better for you.  Hoping that Maria
will

turn out to be a dud.



I

know I am late to the party but I would be very
interested

in taking that domestic water pump off your hands should

things with prior inquiries fail to come to fruition. 
I

would also like to let you know that I would be
interested

in any other spares you may be looking to dispose of.



All the best,



Paul Stascavage

SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn

Cruising Grenada



www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Genacker

Paul Osterberg
 

David
That will give approx 17 m, and with a foot of 12.5 m gives a sail area of 95 Sqm.
looks big in length but rather small in area, but does 95 sqm looks reasonable for  a genacker or asymmetrical spinnacker as i think it's also called. for a SM?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine or B&G

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Paul,

My boat is older than yours and I did exactly as you plan… 

-A98 at the helm
-A75 at NAV station
-AIS 650
- 12KW 78NM range radar SHD
- Sonar.  
- Tridata
- 3 X i70’s at helm… you can get away with two.  I over did it...

Add the ancillaries for the installation.

Being in the US, your costs will be less than mine… DO IT!

:-)

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 19 Sep 2017, at 11:52, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hello!

We thinking of replace the old B&G system, the ultrasonic speed sensor got smashed when we grounded.

The B&G system is old and probably anyhow on the end of it's lifespan.

We have a Raymarine plotter just two years old (The old Garmin was more user friendly) , we are very pleases with our old Autohelm Autopilot, but need redundancy so we will planning to install the Raymarine EV 400, and keep the two original drive units, keep the old control head and computes as spare.

To us it make sense to use Raymarine i the rest of the instrumentation wind speed depth etc.

Hopefully we do not need to adress his issues any more during our ownership of Kerpa, so we like to do the right thing.

You who have this set up, which I guess there are a few, are you satisfied with the Raymarine equipment's?

You who choose to stay with B&G what was the main reason for that?


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Mill Creek next stop St Michels







Re: Amel sharki

hanoah64@...
 

Miles,

In really light air, say less than 10 knots, I may set both poles and use only one head sail, jibbing back and forth as conditions require. The pole is just there to keep the from completely collapsing in the swells.

I went around the world with the solar panels on the rail, with braces beneath. It would be nice not to have the panels sticking out, but, I have not come up with another option.

Cheers, Roger


Raymarine or B&G

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!

We thinking of replace the old B&G system, the ultrasonic speed sensor got smashed when we grounded.

The B&G system is old and probably anyhow on the end of it's lifespan.

We have a Raymarine plotter just two years old (The old Garmin was more user friendly) , we are very pleases with our old Autohelm Autopilot, but need redundancy so we will planning to install the Raymarine EV 400, and keep the two original drive units, keep the old control head and computes as spare.

To us it make sense to use Raymarine i the rest of the instrumentation wind speed depth etc.

Hopefully we do not need to adress his issues any more during our ownership of Kerpa, so we like to do the right thing.

You who have this set up, which I guess there are a few, are you satisfied with the Raymarine equipment's?

You who choose to stay with B&G what was the main reason for that?


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Mill Creek next stop St Michels





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel sharki

hanoah64@...
 

Hi Miles,
The Sharki was intended to fly twin head sails off the same furler extrusion. I didn't like that approach so I set up a Facnor Code Zero type furler in front of my main Profurl furler. This allowed me fly twin head sails poled out...and the option of furling just one. I had a light weight sail made in South Africa that works well on the Facnor.
In the video the pole that's set up,....well, I probaly jibbed earlier and didn't bother taking it down.
When a squall comes up the Facnor sail, in its furled configuration needs to be lowered to the deck. This requires going forward, lowering the Spectra halyard and securing the furled sail on deck. If you leave the Facnor up in an intense squall, even with the doubled Spectra halyard as tight as possible, the unit will surge back and forth like it wants to take down your rig. Can be worrying.
If I run the risk of getting exhausted some times I ignore the poles and just fall off a few degrees.
Also, I use the Hydrovane exclusively, and have broached under twin head sails. So when it blows hard I am just as happy with a single jib, furled so nothing is chafing, and just off the wind enough so the vane can handle it.
Roger


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go Feedback

Stephen Davis
 

We have used the Iridium Go for about 2 years, and love it. Connections are fairly reliable with the external antenna, but a bit frustrating without it. Spend the extra $300 for the external antenna, and you will be happy you did. 

Regards,

Aloha SM72
Santa Marta, Columbia

On Sep 19, 2017, at 09:29, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

To those of you using Iridium Go, did you find that it was necessary to get the Antenna?
Would love to hear about your user experience.

Many thanks

Thomas & Soraya


Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cruising Menorca, Spain



Olivier Beaute'

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!

I will have Olivier Beaute' survey the damage after our grounding this summer. I have agree with our insurance company to use Oliver I'm very pleased with that

(I have to pay some of the traveling expenses I think that is fare)


We have not set the exact date yet, but around 20th of October, place Georgetown Sassafras River.

So now it's an opportunity  if anyone have the need of Olivier services in the area around, he can stay a day or two extra. in that case we can share the remaining traveling costs.

Please let me know (sykerpa at gmail dot com)

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go Feedback

Paul Osterberg
 

Thomas & Soraya
We have used our IGo a year now, we bought the external antenna and are very pleased with it. The smal cable between the Device and antenna cable brook and we needed a new so for a while we were with out external antenna. and I would say it's worth the extra effort to install.
We made a very crude installation just took a piece of rubber house around the back and fasten the antenna with a hose clip. took less than 5 minutes, we did use the old antenna cable for our very old Satellit phone so did not need to install a new antenna cable worked perfect now for over a year

Paul on SYKerpa SM#259.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go Feedback

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

We found iridium works well topside only.  However we installed at nav station where signal can be sketchy.  After installing antenna it worked well. I would recommend the antenna.
Ben

Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:07 AM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The external antenna for the Iridium Go is not needed if you bring the unit up on deck with a clear view of the sky when you use it.  With a clear sky view, the internal antenna works great. It is waterproof (when not connected to power) so this can a workable solution.  I used it this way on a passage after the external antenna had been damaged.


If you plan on mounting the unit below deck, the external antenna is going to be required. I found the satellite signal has very poor penetrating power, and not usable at my nav station without the external antenna.

We have been very happy with it

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go Feedback

greatketch@...
 

The external antenna for the Iridium Go is not needed if you bring the unit up on deck with a clear view of the sky when you use it.  With a clear sky view, the internal antenna works great. It is waterproof (when not connected to power) so this can a workable solution.  I used it this way on a passage after the external antenna had been damaged.

If you plan on mounting the unit below deck, the external antenna is going to be required. I found the satellite signal has very poor penetrating power, and not usable at my nav station without the external antenna.

We have been very happy with it

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD


[Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go Feedback

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

To those of you using Iridium Go, did you find that it was necessary to get the Antenna?
Would love to hear about your user experience.

Many thanks

Thomas & Soraya


Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cruising Menorca, Spain



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel head

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

John,

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg ‐ S/Y Lady Annila, Amel Super Maramu no 232, rebuilt their swivel and documented the process with descriptions and photos. I thought it was posted in the files section, but I looked and could not find it for you. I have a copy and I have their permission to use it in my Amel Book, but I noticed that it is marked with a copyright. I am sure they will share it with you. Contact: seglar"at"ladyannila.se

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, John Broersen cestsibon1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good evening Amel owners,

I own a Amel Mango and the swivel head on the genoa furler is almost seized up. I have not taken it apart yet, I am wondering what kind of parts if any I need to repair the swivel head?
Thanks for any help, Amel Mango C'est si Bon
John



[Amel Yacht Owners] Tangier Marina

Sv Garulfo
 

Hello,

We are thinking of stopping by Tangier Morocco later this season, and we were wondering if anyone has been there recently and could provide feedback on port/Marina facilities.
We have read the noonsite info and also know that the new Marina is not yet open.
Just wondering if anyone has experienced the tide in the old port and could report back on their stay there.

Thanks for your input.

Best Wishes,

Thomas & Soraya


Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Cruising Menorca, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel sharki

smiles bernard
 

lovely video and inspiring - thanks for sharing it 

I'm trying to figure out how to set up my maramu for long distance and have a couple of qs that i wondered if you might be kind enough to help with - based on looking at your setup.

- What downwind rig did you find works well on your Sharki?
I see you have a pole up to port but are plying the genny to starbd. did you ever fly twin headsails? If so how do yoiu set this up? two pole or just to windward and what size sail?

- Self steering. I've used a monitor and a hydrovane - both were amazing. My new boat has neither :( just electric autopilot. One option is to just stick with the electric one i have - not ideal imo. the other option is to remove a rear gantry with solar and wind setup currently and instead just use solar along the rails like you have. How do you find your solar setup? It looks like they are attached direct to the rails with additional supports down to the toe rails?

Many thanks Miles
Maramu 162


On Monday, September 18, 2017, 10:15:46 PM GMT+1, hanoah64@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Also, there is a youtube video of Hanoah sailing down wind in the Indian Ocean. Look for Amel Sharki Hydovane on youtube. The video was made with a cell phone so the quality is not that special.