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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: greeting and question about AIS

bootlegger@...
 

Hello Miles

As someone with the same system as yourself including the VHF aerial
splitter which I picked up at last year's Southampton Boat Show and
which I found easy to install and which has worked brilliantly since,
I would subscribe to everything you say.

Awesome system. Yes, I too found there is much more liklihood
of a response from a closing ship when called up by name.

Frank Newton
Bootlegger of Mann #321
(currently lying in Guadeloupe)

Hello Mark,




I used a slightly different approach to AIS which may be of interest. I
purchased a SITEX black box unit and connected it to the VHF antenna with
an
active splitter. The splitter is a unit called "EasySPLIT. I do not know
if it is sold in the US, but I have seen others in the Defender catalog.
The splitter costs more than the AIS but avoids adding another antenna and
cabling. The AIS shows on a laptop that lives on a shelf (that Amel
designed) over the chart table. This has worked flawlessly for the last
year. Passing through the Straits of Gibraltar last December, I counted
about 40 ships underway. Since the AIS range is well over 40 miles for a
big ship with a high antenna, I could have seen more ships on a larger
scale
chart, but the close ones were of more interest. An added benefit of the
AIS is that it shows the name of the ship as well as the closest passing
distance. Ships seem to respond better when addressed by name than by
"the
ship at position . . . . "



Miles Bidwell

S/Y LADYBUG (now in Martinique)

SM 216






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] greeting and question about AIS

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Mark, we agree with Eric. We have a NASA unit with screen at the Nav station and use it the same way... When we are in the shipping lanes we can see shipping even when in a rain or wind storm and the radar has lots of clutter...
Richard and Joan at Simpson Bay SM 209

eric <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:
MARK,

I would order the "radar unit "from Nasa. Otherwise I would order the black
box from NASA. It is so cheap.

The black box comes with computer software.

Before I was hit by lightning I used the "radar unit "and it was amazing.
Now that I have the new Raymarine E series

I get the Ais info on the Raymarine screen it is doubly amazing. I do not
see the need of ais at the helm. You will see the ship on radar and then use
the Ais to figure out your tactics. I have received Ais signals on my chart
plotter since it is rectangular at over 80 miles.

Fair Winds,

Eric

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] greeting and question about AIS

Eric:

Thanks for the quick reply. I do have Raymarine
chartplotters but they are an RL80C at the nav station
and an RC530 repeater at the helm. That was state-of-the-art
in October 2003. As far as I can tell, these are not Raymarine
series C or E, and thus will not take AIS input. If I am wrong,
please let me know since then I will get a blackbox receiver.

If these Raymarine units will not display AIS, the issue is how else to
display AIS output?
There is a NASA unit with a small monochrome display, but
I am not sure where to add another display at the helm. The SeaCas unit
connects to a
laptop via usb (in fact, usb powers the SeaCas receiver so one does not
have to wire it to the boat's power supply). I was thinking of just
mounting my laptop securely on the nav table and using it as the AIS
display -- with full color and large font lettering. I already have
navigation software that support AIS input.

Best,

Mark
S/V Sabbatical III
ASM #419

eric wrote:

Mark,
Why did you choose the seacas system over the NASA unit? Do you have a
Raymarine chart plotter on board? the Nasa black box will put the ais
targets on the C and E series chart plotters.
The install of the Ais antenna is simple.
I believe I suggested the sea me unit to you. If the unit is mounted as on
Kimberlite, there is a hole in the edge of the mizzen masthead on the
starboard side.
I just used a large reamer to enlarge the hole for the VHF antenna. Amel
left runners on the masthead to be able to pull a cable through the
mast. It
is accessible at the bottom of the mast on the port side. It is a
fiberglass
plate with two screws.
You pull the cable down to that point. Then go into the aft head and there
is a panel to the right of the mirror. Remove the panel and you will
find a
piece of corrugated hose that leads up to the bottom of the mizzenmast
with
the radar cable in it. You then just pill the cable down into the mirror
area with a snake. . there is a wood panel below the forward port in
the aft
cabin . Remove this with the few wood screws. Incidentally, Amel uses torx
screws and not Phillips head screws. They look very similar, but the torx
screwdriver available from McMaster works much better on all the screws of
the boat. With this panel removed you can run the ais antenna cable across
the boat. Just follow the radar cable across the headliner in the
mid-ships
bunk using the access panels. The cable then runs down into the forward
cabinet in the mid ships cabin. It is behind removable panels on the
forward
side, which is held in with Velcro. Then remove the panel behind the
bookshelf and you are at the nav station. After mounting the antenna, I
believe we had the cable at the nav station in less than 30 minutes.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] greeting and question about AIS

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Mark, we agree with Eric. We have a NASA unit with screen at the Nav station and use it the same way... When we are in the shipping lanes we can see shipping even when in a rain or wind storm and the radar has lots of clutter...
Richard and Joan at Simpson Bay SM 209

eric <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:
MARK,

I would order the "radar unit "from Nasa. Otherwise I would order the black
box from NASA. It is so cheap.

The black box comes with computer software.

Before I was hit by lightning I used the "radar unit "and it was amazing.
Now that I have the new Raymarine E series

I get the Ais info on the Raymarine screen it is doubly amazing. I do not
see the need of ais at the helm. You will see the ship on radar and then use
the Ais to figure out your tactics. I have received Ais signals on my chart
plotter since it is rectangular at over 80 miles.

Fair Winds,

Eric

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] greeting and question about AIS

Eric:

Thanks for the quick reply. I do have Raymarine
chartplotters but they are an RL80C at the nav station
and an RC530 repeater at the helm. That was state-of-the-art
in October 2003. As far as I can tell, these are not Raymarine
series C or E, and thus will not take AIS input. If I am wrong,
please let me know since then I will get a blackbox receiver.

If these Raymarine units will not display AIS, the issue is how else to
display AIS output?
There is a NASA unit with a small monochrome display, but
I am not sure where to add another display at the helm. The SeaCas unit
connects to a
laptop via usb (in fact, usb powers the SeaCas receiver so one does not
have to wire it to the boat's power supply). I was thinking of just
mounting my laptop securely on the nav table and using it as the AIS
display -- with full color and large font lettering. I already have
navigation software that support AIS input.

Best,

Mark
S/V Sabbatical III
ASM #419

eric wrote:

Mark,
Why did you choose the seacas system over the NASA unit? Do you have a
Raymarine chart plotter on board? the Nasa black box will put the ais
targets on the C and E series chart plotters.
The install of the Ais antenna is simple.
I believe I suggested the sea me unit to you. If the unit is mounted as on
Kimberlite, there is a hole in the edge of the mizzen masthead on the
starboard side.
I just used a large reamer to enlarge the hole for the VHF antenna. Amel
left runners on the masthead to be able to pull a cable through the
mast. It
is accessible at the bottom of the mast on the port side. It is a
fiberglass
plate with two screws.
You pull the cable down to that point. Then go into the aft head and there
is a panel to the right of the mirror. Remove the panel and you will
find a
piece of corrugated hose that leads up to the bottom of the mizzenmast
with
the radar cable in it. You then just pill the cable down into the mirror
area with a snake. . there is a wood panel below the forward port in
the aft
cabin . Remove this with the few wood screws. Incidentally, Amel uses torx
screws and not Phillips head screws. They look very similar, but the torx
screwdriver available from McMaster works much better on all the screws of
the boat. With this panel removed you can run the ais antenna cable across
the boat. Just follow the radar cable across the headliner in the
mid-ships
bunk using the access panels. The cable then runs down into the forward
cabinet in the mid ships cabin. It is behind removable panels on the
forward
side, which is held in with Velcro. Then remove the panel behind the
bookshelf and you are at the nav station. After mounting the antenna, I
believe we had the cable at the nav station in less than 30 minutes.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Re: greeting and question about AIS

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Hello Mark,



I used a slightly different approach to AIS which may be of interest. I
purchased a SITEX black box unit and connected it to the VHF antenna with an
active splitter. The splitter is a unit called "EasySPLIT. I do not know
if it is sold in the US, but I have seen others in the Defender catalog.
The splitter costs more than the AIS but avoids adding another antenna and
cabling. The AIS shows on a laptop that lives on a shelf (that Amel
designed) over the chart table. This has worked flawlessly for the last
year. Passing through the Straits of Gibraltar last December, I counted
about 40 ships underway. Since the AIS range is well over 40 miles for a
big ship with a high antenna, I could have seen more ships on a larger scale
chart, but the close ones were of more interest. An added benefit of the
AIS is that it shows the name of the ship as well as the closest passing
distance. Ships seem to respond better when addressed by name than by "the
ship at position . . . . "



Miles Bidwell

S/Y LADYBUG (now in Martinique)

SM 216


Re: [SPAM][Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dropping vinyl ceiling

Lars Knudsen <museum@...>
 

Hi Federico



I sounds like you have found a great product. But I would still like to know
which product Amel themselves use and recommend.

Problem is that when a covering is used in a boat that is constantly exposed
to the sun, it will get very, very hot. Therefore the material must be able
not only to insulate - which is great - but also to withstand ageing caused
by heat.



Have others found out which material Amel now use?



Regards,

Lars


Re: [SPAM][Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dropping vinyl ceiling

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Hello All,

I of course have the same problem on my 1986 Sharki. I know of one boat that elected to go a different route and use vinyl panels finished with wood trim over the seems. It looks tremendous. I know the owner did not bother stripping the old glue except in spots were he laminated supports etc. for the trim work. In the end I think the time commitment was just as long but not nearly as dirty.
I was considering stripping the old glue etc. and then applying a product called Mascote which is a nano insulation product used on commercial ships and coast guard vessels. It is applied as a paint and results in a hard white slightly texturized finish. The sales people say you came get a about R10 by following the minimal application instructions. I planned to trim it out more for looks than anything. If anyone has tried this I would appreciate hearing about it.

All the best,

Tom Fisher

Sheila,
Sharki #142

________________________________

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Lars Knudsen
Sent: Tue 12/02/2008 10:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SPAM][Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dropping vinyl ceiling



Hi Bill and Federico

Be aware that this topic has been discussed quite a few times - and by the
way, I have the exact same problem in my Santorin 1993 and is considering
how to best handle it.

Joel Potter has posted some very useful information on how to do this job -
and in fact advice to let professionals do the job as it requires special
breathing equipment and splitting most of the boat interior. But I have read
some remarks and also seen posts from a family who did the same job during a
stop in Turkey where the boat was on the hard.

What interest me the most is exactly what material should be used to not
have the same problem in ten year forward. Amel is now using some kind of
felt-backed vinyl lining instead of the old with rubber foam. Does anyone
have the specs and name/number on this material in the right colour?

And what is the exact type of glue to be used and how do one apply it so we
not risk the lining coming down again after a short while.?

Hope you find what you need - I will follow your postings with great
interest!

Best regards

Lars

Santorin Salvagny #79

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of hibibif2006
Sent: 12. februar 2008 16:26
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [SPAM][Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dropping vinyl ceiling

Hi Bill,

In the next two month I will replace the ceiling on my SM 056. As far
as I know there is nothing else to do then stripping off the old one,
scratching away the old rubber and glue and apply new glue and ceiling.
I'm shure it will be a dirty hard work.
If anyone know a bether way I would be realy thankfull in knowing it.

Best regards, Federico, Hibiscus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "btleonore" <leonorebt@...>
wrote:

Hello SM owners, I have experienced the dropping ceiling syndrone of
Amels and have solved the problem with fore and aft mahogney strips
but
would like to know the full repair procedure should I chose to do the
proper repair, if there is one.

Thanks for any input.

Bill Rahmig, SM72


Re: dropping vinyl ceiling

rossirossix4 <equinoxsolstice@...>
 

Hi,

Last year I removed the vinyl and foam backing and have a couple of
suggestions

* As Joel warns, use something better than a dust mask. A respirator
is necessary and really isn't that big a deal...just better rubber seal
and canisters that are specific for the job. You can get the right
stuff at Home Depot, etc. HOWEVER, I heartily recommend a full face
respirator. Again, it is no big deal, just a respirator that also seals
around your eyes. Mine never fogged up and it was absolutely great.
You will be working on overhead surfaces and in anycase there will be a
great deal of irritating dust. It was much better than goggles. These
are not hard to find...I think I bought mine on eBay and they take the
same canisters as the same brand of a regular half face respirator .
* Second, get the LARGEST shop vac you can find and add 2 or 3 hose
extensions (use the 2" diameter hose) and run it through a hatch . This
allows you to place the shop vac on deck and eliminate the noise,
etc--also, the hose is coming from overhead and easy to manouver. Use
of a paper insert filter will simplify the disposal of the old foam.
The powerful suction of the shop vac is very helpful in removing foam,
clearing the air AND adding ventilation as fresh outside air replaces
the air inside the boat it removes. It may sound odd, but you can also
vac against the coveralls you are wearing to remove humidity and cool
your body!!! The shop vac I used had a curved claw like attachment that
was very good for pulling the residual foam from the back ot the vinyl
and from the overheads and bulkheads.

Bob
"Brittany de la Mer"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "hibibif2006" <f.bizzarro@...>
wrote:


Hi Bill,

In the next two month I will replace the ceiling on my SM 056. As far
as I know there is nothing else to do then stripping off the old one,
scratching away the old rubber and glue and apply new glue and
ceiling.
I'm shure it will be a dirty hard work.
If anyone know a bether way I would be realy thankfull in knowing it.

Best regards, Federico, Hibiscus


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "btleonore" leonorebt@
wrote:

Hello SM owners, I have experienced the dropping ceiling syndrone of
Amels and have solved the problem with fore and aft mahogney strips
but
would like to know the full repair procedure should I chose to do
the
proper repair, if there is one.

Thanks for any input.

Bill Rahmig, SM72


Re: dropping vinyl ceiling

hibibif2006
 

Hi Lars,

many thanks for your replay. I have red what Mr. Potter wrote.
The produkt I ordered is from Gisa Tex and they write on their speks:

Areas of use

GISA TEX Isotherm and GISA TEX Isotherm Kaschiert, in soft napa
quality with classic grain effects, can be employed both as a premium
upholstery material and as a high-grade wall or ceiling covering. A
top class product.

Qualities

The surface material of PVC gives the product the necessary
waterproofing and resistance to mould, but also a look of luxury.
This material can cope with the demands of long-term use. The high
quality fleece backing layer is a great advantage when gluing and
serves as thermal and sound insulation.

The specification GISA TEX Isotherm Kaschiert additionally has 5 mm
of thermal foam and a layer of charmeuse (artificial silk) on the
back. This makes it an outstanding material for wall and ceiling
covering. Small
irregularities are covered up and the isulation value raised.

Instructions for use

GISA TEX Isotherm utilized as a wall covering is first roughly cut to
fit the space. The wall alone is coated with an emulsion adhesive. We
recommend the use of our type 1805 adhesive with a lambskin roller.
The fabric strips can then be directly applied to the layer of
adhesive and smoothed out carefully


Do you think this will be the wright product?

Tanks

Federico


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Lars Knudsen" <museum@...>
wrote:

Hi Bill and Federico



Be aware that this topic has been discussed quite a few times - and
by the
way, I have the exact same problem in my Santorin 1993 and is
considering
how to best handle it.



Joel Potter has posted some very useful information on how to do
this job -
and in fact advice to let professionals do the job as it requires
special
breathing equipment and splitting most of the boat interior. But I
have read
some remarks and also seen posts from a family who did the same job
during a
stop in Turkey where the boat was on the hard.



What interest me the most is exactly what material should be used
to not
have the same problem in ten year forward. Amel is now using some
kind of
felt-backed vinyl lining instead of the old with rubber foam. Does
anyone
have the specs and name/number on this material in the right colour?



And what is the exact type of glue to be used and how do one apply
it so we
not risk the lining coming down again after a short while.?



Hope you find what you need - I will follow your postings with great
interest!



Best regards

Lars

Santorin Salvagny #79



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hibibif2006
Sent: 12. februar 2008 16:26
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM][Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dropping vinyl ceiling




Hi Bill,

In the next two month I will replace the ceiling on my SM 056. As
far
as I know there is nothing else to do then stripping off the old
one,
scratching away the old rubber and glue and apply new glue and
ceiling.
I'm shure it will be a dirty hard work.
If anyone know a bether way I would be realy thankfull in knowing
it.

Best regards, Federico, Hibiscus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "btleonore"
<leonorebt@>
wrote:

Hello SM owners, I have experienced the dropping ceiling syndrone
of
Amels and have solved the problem with fore and aft mahogney
strips
but
would like to know the full repair procedure should I chose to do
the
proper repair, if there is one.

Thanks for any input.

Bill Rahmig, SM72




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [SPAM][Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dropping vinyl ceiling

Lars Knudsen <museum@...>
 

Hi Bill and Federico



Be aware that this topic has been discussed quite a few times - and by the
way, I have the exact same problem in my Santorin 1993 and is considering
how to best handle it.



Joel Potter has posted some very useful information on how to do this job -
and in fact advice to let professionals do the job as it requires special
breathing equipment and splitting most of the boat interior. But I have read
some remarks and also seen posts from a family who did the same job during a
stop in Turkey where the boat was on the hard.



What interest me the most is exactly what material should be used to not
have the same problem in ten year forward. Amel is now using some kind of
felt-backed vinyl lining instead of the old with rubber foam. Does anyone
have the specs and name/number on this material in the right colour?



And what is the exact type of glue to be used and how do one apply it so we
not risk the lining coming down again after a short while.?



Hope you find what you need - I will follow your postings with great
interest!



Best regards

Lars

Santorin Salvagny #79



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hibibif2006
Sent: 12. februar 2008 16:26
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM][Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dropping vinyl ceiling




Hi Bill,

In the next two month I will replace the ceiling on my SM 056. As far
as I know there is nothing else to do then stripping off the old one,
scratching away the old rubber and glue and apply new glue and ceiling.
I'm shure it will be a dirty hard work.
If anyone know a bether way I would be realy thankfull in knowing it.

Best regards, Federico, Hibiscus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "btleonore" <leonorebt@...>
wrote:

Hello SM owners, I have experienced the dropping ceiling syndrone of
Amels and have solved the problem with fore and aft mahogney strips
but
would like to know the full repair procedure should I chose to do the
proper repair, if there is one.

Thanks for any input.

Bill Rahmig, SM72


Re: dropping vinyl ceiling

hibibif2006
 

Hi Bill,

In the next two month I will replace the ceiling on my SM 056. As far
as I know there is nothing else to do then stripping off the old one,
scratching away the old rubber and glue and apply new glue and ceiling.
I'm shure it will be a dirty hard work.
If anyone know a bether way I would be realy thankfull in knowing it.

Best regards, Federico, Hibiscus


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "btleonore" <leonorebt@...>
wrote:

Hello SM owners, I have experienced the dropping ceiling syndrone of
Amels and have solved the problem with fore and aft mahogney strips
but
would like to know the full repair procedure should I chose to do the
proper repair, if there is one.

Thanks for any input.

Bill Rahmig, SM72


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] greeting and question about AIS

Eric Freedman
 

MARK,

I would order the "radar unit "from Nasa. Otherwise I would order the black
box from NASA. It is so cheap.

The black box comes with computer software.

Before I was hit by lightning I used the "radar unit "and it was amazing.
Now that I have the new Raymarine E series

I get the Ais info on the Raymarine screen it is doubly amazing. I do not
see the need of ais at the helm. You will see the ship on radar and then use
the Ais to figure out your tactics. I have received Ais signals on my chart
plotter since it is rectangular at over 80 miles.

Fair Winds,

Eric





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] greeting and question about AIS



Eric:

Thanks for the quick reply. I do have Raymarine
chartplotters but they are an RL80C at the nav station
and an RC530 repeater at the helm. That was state-of-the-art
in October 2003. As far as I can tell, these are not Raymarine
series C or E, and thus will not take AIS input. If I am wrong,
please let me know since then I will get a blackbox receiver.

If these Raymarine units will not display AIS, the issue is how else to
display AIS output?
There is a NASA unit with a small monochrome display, but
I am not sure where to add another display at the helm. The SeaCas unit
connects to a
laptop via usb (in fact, usb powers the SeaCas receiver so one does not
have to wire it to the boat's power supply). I was thinking of just
mounting my laptop securely on the nav table and using it as the AIS
display -- with full color and large font lettering. I already have
navigation software that support AIS input.

Best,

Mark
S/V Sabbatical III
ASM #419

eric wrote:


Mark,
Why did you choose the seacas system over the NASA unit? Do you have a
Raymarine chart plotter on board? the Nasa black box will put the ais
targets on the C and E series chart plotters.
The install of the Ais antenna is simple.
I believe I suggested the sea me unit to you. If the unit is mounted as on
Kimberlite, there is a hole in the edge of the mizzen masthead on the
starboard side.
I just used a large reamer to enlarge the hole for the VHF antenna. Amel
left runners on the masthead to be able to pull a cable through the
mast. It
is accessible at the bottom of the mast on the port side. It is a
fiberglass
plate with two screws.
You pull the cable down to that point. Then go into the aft head and there
is a panel to the right of the mirror. Remove the panel and you will
find a
piece of corrugated hose that leads up to the bottom of the mizzenmast
with
the radar cable in it. You then just pill the cable down into the mirror
area with a snake. . there is a wood panel below the forward port in
the aft
cabin . Remove this with the few wood screws. Incidentally, Amel uses torx
screws and not Phillips head screws. They look very similar, but the torx
screwdriver available from McMaster works much better on all the screws of
the boat. With this panel removed you can run the ais antenna cable across
the boat. Just follow the radar cable across the headliner in the
mid-ships
bunk using the access panels. The cable then runs down into the forward
cabinet in the mid ships cabin. It is behind removable panels on the
forward
side, which is held in with Velcro. Then remove the panel behind the
bookshelf and you are at the nav station. After mounting the antenna, I
believe we had the cable at the nav station in less than 30 minutes.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] greeting and question about AIS

Mark Pitt
 

Eric:

Thanks for the quick reply. I do have Raymarine
chartplotters but they are an RL80C at the nav station
and an RC530 repeater at the helm. That was state-of-the-art
in October 2003. As far as I can tell, these are not Raymarine
series C or E, and thus will not take AIS input. If I am wrong,
please let me know since then I will get a blackbox receiver.

If these Raymarine units will not display AIS, the issue is how else to display AIS output?
There is a NASA unit with a small monochrome display, but
I am not sure where to add another display at the helm. The SeaCas unit connects to a
laptop via usb (in fact, usb powers the SeaCas receiver so one does not
have to wire it to the boat's power supply). I was thinking of just
mounting my laptop securely on the nav table and using it as the AIS
display -- with full color and large font lettering. I already have
navigation software that support AIS input.

Best,

Mark
S/V Sabbatical III
ASM #419

eric wrote:


Mark,
Why did you choose the seacas system over the NASA unit? Do you have a
Raymarine chart plotter on board? the Nasa black box will put the ais
targets on the C and E series chart plotters.
The install of the Ais antenna is simple.
I believe I suggested the sea me unit to you. If the unit is mounted as on
Kimberlite, there is a hole in the edge of the mizzen masthead on the
starboard side.
I just used a large reamer to enlarge the hole for the VHF antenna. Amel
left runners on the masthead to be able to pull a cable through the mast. It
is accessible at the bottom of the mast on the port side. It is a fiberglass
plate with two screws.
You pull the cable down to that point. Then go into the aft head and there
is a panel to the right of the mirror. Remove the panel and you will find a
piece of corrugated hose that leads up to the bottom of the mizzenmast with
the radar cable in it. You then just pill the cable down into the mirror
area with a snake. . there is a wood panel below the forward port in the aft
cabin . Remove this with the few wood screws. Incidentally, Amel uses torx
screws and not Phillips head screws. They look very similar, but the torx
screwdriver available from McMaster works much better on all the screws of
the boat. With this panel removed you can run the ais antenna cable across
the boat. Just follow the radar cable across the headliner in the mid-ships
bunk using the access panels. The cable then runs down into the forward
cabinet in the mid ships cabin. It is behind removable panels on the forward
side, which is held in with Velcro. Then remove the panel behind the
bookshelf and you are at the nav station. After mounting the antenna, I
believe we had the cable at the nav station in less than 30 minutes.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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greeting and question about AIS

Eric Freedman
 

Mark,
Why did you choose the seacas system over the NASA unit? Do you have a
Raymarine chart plotter on board? the Nasa black box will put the ais
targets on the C and E series chart plotters.
The install of the Ais antenna is simple.
I believe I suggested the sea me unit to you. If the unit is mounted as on
Kimberlite, there is a hole in the edge of the mizzen masthead on the
starboard side.
I just used a large reamer to enlarge the hole for the VHF antenna. Amel
left runners on the masthead to be able to pull a cable through the mast. It
is accessible at the bottom of the mast on the port side. It is a fiberglass
plate with two screws.
You pull the cable down to that point. Then go into the aft head and there
is a panel to the right of the mirror. Remove the panel and you will find a
piece of corrugated hose that leads up to the bottom of the mizzenmast with
the radar cable in it. You then just pill the cable down into the mirror
area with a snake. . there is a wood panel below the forward port in the aft
cabin . Remove this with the few wood screws. Incidentally, Amel uses torx
screws and not Phillips head screws. They look very similar, but the torx
screwdriver available from McMaster works much better on all the screws of
the boat. With this panel removed you can run the ais antenna cable across
the boat. Just follow the radar cable across the headliner in the mid-ships
bunk using the access panels. The cable then runs down into the forward
cabinet in the mid ships cabin. It is behind removable panels on the forward
side, which is held in with Velcro. Then remove the panel behind the
bookshelf and you are at the nav station. After mounting the antenna, I
believe we had the cable at the nav station in less than 30 minutes.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pitt [mailto:Mark_Pitt@brown.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:25 PM
To: eric
Subject: greeting and question about AIS

Eric:

How are you doing? Are you in the Caribbean this time of year?

I am back at Brown after 12 months at sea. My wife and I left
the boat in New Zealand. We will return in May and continue
in the South Pacific for awhile before heading west in another
year.

I am thinking of adding AIS to Sabbatical III, although not
the NASA system. Probably a SeaCAS receiver.
Which ever AIS system I use, I need to
get an antenna up on the mizzen and thread the cable to the
nav station. Your Yahoo post seems to suggest that you
received some assistance from Amel in figuring our how to
do this. Can you please pass that info on to me? I already
have a SeaMe active transponder up there, so I hope there
is room.

Best regards,

Mark

--
--- Mark M. Pitt
--- Professor of Economics


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AIS reception

Eric Freedman
 

The one that I have is a 2-channel unit it switches between the two
channels, and I believe I paid about 178 British pounds for it. It is made
by a company called NASA and is distributed by a company called ALL Gadgets.
It looks like a radar screen and takes about an hour and a half to hook up;
most of the time is spent adding the vhf antenna to the top of the mizzen.
The wiring from the top of the mizzen to the nav station took 20 minutes
(Thanks Amel).

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svcharisma
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: AIS reception



Eric,
I'm told that there are 1 channel and 2 channel AIS receivers, which do
you have and do you have an opion on the subject of one vs. two channels

Alan
SV Charisma - Amel Mango #62

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I believe AIS is required on all ships over 150 tons world wide .

I find mine very helpful when I am sailing solo and at night. very
cheap
from all gadgets in England.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: AIS reception

svcharisma
 

Eric,
I'm told that there are 1 channel and 2 channel AIS receivers, which do
you have and do you have an opion on the subject of one vs. two channels

Alan
SV Charisma - Amel Mango #62

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I believe AIS is required on all ships over 150 tons world wide .

I find mine very helpful when I am sailing solo and at night. very
cheap
from all gadgets in England.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


dropping vinyl ceiling

btleonore <leonorebt@...>
 

Hello SM owners, I have experienced the dropping ceiling syndrone of
Amels and have solved the problem with fore and aft mahogney strips but
would like to know the full repair procedure should I chose to do the
proper repair, if there is one.

Thanks for any input.

Bill Rahmig, SM72


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windward Islands

bootlegger@...
 

Hi Gary
I'm in Pointe-a-Pitre too at present and also planning to travel south
to Trinidad from around March 10. We must keep in touch.

Frank Newton

Bootlegger of Mann #321

We are presently in Pointe-A-Pitre, Guadeloupe. Around March 1 we will
start our trek to Trinidad expecting to arrive at Coral Cove around
July 1, 2008. We would appreciate any and all suggestions as to great
places to stop and visit along the way. Many thanks in advance to any
suggestions and recommendations.

Gary Wollenberg, Vessel "Bozo Cinq"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windward Islands

Steve Leeds
 

Hi Gary,

There are too many to mention in one letter. You (and all cruisers)
should join the Seven Seas Cruising Association (SSCA) an international
group of cruising sailors who share their experiences in a monthly newsletter
(either printed or on-line). It is possible for members to search the
letter database for information on the area they are interested in (such as the
Caribbean). You can join on-line at ssca.org. Two of the present
Board members and the previous President, among others, are AMEL owners.
Other available benefits such as SSCA's equipment survey, port guides, and
international cruising stations are highly valuable to both active cruisers and
those contemplating the cruising lifestyle.



Steve Leeds

Sharki #121

Circumnavigator's Yacht Service

Fort Lauderdale

http://bellsouthpwp2.net/l/e/leedss/

----- Original Message ----

From: gwollenberg <bozocinq@wollenberg.net>

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:45:31 PM

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Windward Islands








We are presently in Pointe-A-Pitre,
Guadeloupe. Around March 1 we will

start our trek to Trinidad expecting to arrive at Coral Cove around

July 1, 2008. We would appreciate any and all suggestions as to great

places to stop and visit along the way. Many thanks in advance to any

suggestions and recommendations.



Gary Wollenberg, Vessel "Bozo Cinq"


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AIS reception

Eric Freedman
 

I believe AIS is required on all ships over 150 tons world wide .

I find mine very helpful when I am sailing solo and at night. very cheap
from all gadgets in England.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christophe Langinieux
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:49 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AIS reception



Hello,

Is an AIS receptor useful to cruise in French Polynesia ? I live there and
I'm wandering if I should offer my Kirk such an equipment.

Thanks !

Christophe


Windward Islands

gwollenberg <bozocinq@...>
 

We are presently in Pointe-A-Pitre, Guadeloupe. Around March 1 we will
start our trek to Trinidad expecting to arrive at Coral Cove around
July 1, 2008. We would appreciate any and all suggestions as to great
places to stop and visit along the way. Many thanks in advance to any
suggestions and recommendations.

Gary Wollenberg, Vessel "Bozo Cinq"