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Re: Cautionary Turbo Tale

Duane Siegfri
 

Pat,

Please check on what I'm about to write yourself since I'm not much of a mechanic.  

Oil in the Intercooler Air Duct is not necessarily an indication of an oil leak in the Turbo.  On my Yanmar there is a breather tube connected to the valve cover and to the air filter.  The intent is that when pressure in the crankcase increases it is relieved by the breather tube.  Pressure is caused by heat increasing the air pressure inside the crankcase, but mostly from "blow by", which are the gases that leak out of the combustion chamber.  

These gasses contains some hydrocarbons, and instead of letting it drip under the engine the tube directs it to the air intake.  If there is a lot of oil, that's not a good thing.  If there is some evidence of oil streaking, or the intercooler is a bit wet with oil, that's normal.  The amount of "blow by" is proportional to the condition of the piston rings, valve seats, etc.  A worn out engine will have more "blow by" than a new one.

Of course, it could also be an oil leak in the turbo...

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Amel 54 Corrosion

Arno Luijten
 

Dear Group,

Thanks for all responses. It seems to prove the principle of "use it or loose it" is very much valid for Amels as well.
The Amel we've looked at has seen very little usage, less then 600 motor hours.
As a result the interior looks very good but the technical installations are not in great shape.
So my guess is that buying such a yacht would take a lot of effort to get effort to get back in shape with substantial costs associated.
At present the price does not reflect this as far a I can tell. As usual the broker tries to downplay the problems but I would expect him to do so. However our funds are limited and we cannot afford a money-pit other then  a yacht in good shape already is.

We will need to take look at other Amels for finding our new cruising-home.

Thanks again.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cautionary Turbo Tale

Mark Erdos
 

Pat,

 

So glad you are able to escape relatively cheap. This is wise advice. I guess this is why surgical staff count the sponges in the OR.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cautionary Turbo Tale

 

 

Several months ago my engine lost performance , it would not exceed 1800 rpm. I have a Volvo TMD 22A and normally could get it up to 3000 rpm. I discovered that the turbine did not spin easily and assumed it was the result of running it slowly and a build up of carbon. Today , I took the turbo off and brought it home , while trying to explain how a turbo works to my wife and pointing to where the air enters the turbo , she innocently asked me, Is that supposed to be there? When I looked , I could not believe it, there was a tightly wound  wad of paper towel sucked tightly up against the turbine. I don't know how any air got passed it. I must have left a paper towel in the engine room and it got sucked up through the filter , which is not a proper filter at all . There is a black plastic housing in where I would expect a filter to be , but it is empty . I will now place a wide mesh screen over the opening. This explains the gray smoke , and some black smoke I never had before , not enough air. I also discovered oil in the tube connected to the intake manifold , not good , I assume the turbo has a bad seal . Needless to say, its going in  for a rebuild. So keep track of those paper towels , and save your turbo !

Happy Thanksgiving Pilgrims ,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4.154 repairs

Warren Traill <trailz@...>
 

It was rebuilt in Langkawi by Zainol who has since passed away unfortunately.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2017 12:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4.154 repairs

 

 

Hi Warren and Zetta,  Did you get it rebuit in Thailand?  Interested in recommendation on Good Mechanic.


Re: Amel 54 Corrosion

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

It takes some care to keep a boat looking more or less OK.

Our mirrors were "affected on the sides" as you say, on our then-10 year-old '53 when we bought it in 2012 in Fort Lauderdale.  I am not sure if it got any worse in subsequent years, as those things that you see every day are hard to objectively measure.

In 2016, we replaced all of our mirrors in Barcelona, at not much cost.  It turns out that Amel mirrors are thicker than regular household mirrors.  I believe we followed on the footsteps of great advice from a friend.

21 months later, the mirrors still look brand-new.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K No. 350 (2002)
Under sail, Patara to Kas


Re: Anchor chain channel liner

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

In Fort Lauderdale, I was told the lining material is called "shark skin," but could never find any.  In La Rochelle in 2015 I asked one of the Amel technicians who was aboard to replace it, he said the material is no longer available.

To reduce the amount of wear on the liner, we did two things in Fort Lauderdale:

2014: Two small, rectangular, "starboard" pads were glued into the vertical or nearly vertical leading edges of the fiberglass, aft of where the stainless steel ends.  Otherwise, the fiberglass had begun to show deterioration.  The pads now show significant abrasion, but are still in very good working order.

2015: Two narrow pieces of teak were screwed into the floor of the channel, about halfway between the windlass and the stainless steel.   The chain runs in between the pieces of wood when the anchor is down, and the anchor and its swivel and shackle no longer strike the shark skin when the anchor is up.  The wood shows quite a bit of abrasion, but both pieces are in good working order.

The "shark skin" shows no additional wear and tear since 2015, despite anchoring out most of the time.  Had these measures not been undertaken, I am positive the "shark skin" would have had to be replaced by now.

Cheers,

Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)
Underway, Patara to Kas, Turkey


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cautionary Turbo Tale

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Excellent share and reminder that sometimes (as some on this group remind us) check the easy (and visible) stuff first. If it was me the shop would have called with a $ boat-buck bill as they flicked the paper towel into the trash. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Chuck & Kim
s/v Joy
SM388

Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:34 PM, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Several months ago my engine lost performance , it would not exceed 1800 rpm. I have a Volvo TMD 22A and normally could get it up to 3000 rpm. I discovered that the turbine did not spin easily and assumed it was the result of running it slowly and a build up of carbon. Today , I took the turbo off and brought it home , while trying to explain how a turbo works to my wife and pointing to where the air enters the turbo , she innocently asked me, Is that supposed to be there? When I looked , I could not believe it, there was a tightly wound  wad of paper towel sucked tightly up against the turbine. I don't know how any air got passed it. I must have left a paper towel in the engine room and it got sucked up through the filter , which is not a proper filter at all . There is a black plastic housing in where I would expect a filter to be , but it is empty . I will now place a wide mesh screen over the opening. This explains the gray smoke , and some black smoke I never had before , not enough air. I also discovered oil in the tube connected to the intake manifold , not good , I assume the turbo has a bad seal . Needless to say, its going in  for a rebuild. So keep track of those paper towels , and save your turbo !

Happy Thanksgiving Pilgrims ,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans



Re: Anchor chain channel liner

Duane Siegfri
 

I had that peel off of our boat as well.  I replaced it with an EPDM pad that I glued down.  This is a 30" square pad made out of rubber roofing material that is laid down for walkways on "rubber" (EPDM) roofs.  It's available on the internet, search for EPDM walkway pad.  They have raised dots to improve traction, are very resistant to UV, and look OK in black.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Cautionary Turbo Tale

Patrick McAneny
 

Several months ago my engine lost performance , it would not exceed 1800 rpm. I have a Volvo TMD 22A and normally could get it up to 3000 rpm. I discovered that the turbine did not spin easily and assumed it was the result of running it slowly and a build up of carbon. Today , I took the turbo off and brought it home , while trying to explain how a turbo works to my wife and pointing to where the air enters the turbo , she innocently asked me, Is that supposed to be there? When I looked , I could not believe it, there was a tightly wound  wad of paper towel sucked tightly up against the turbine. I don't know how any air got passed it. I must have left a paper towel in the engine room and it got sucked up through the filter , which is not a proper filter at all . There is a black plastic housing in where I would expect a filter to be , but it is empty . I will now place a wide mesh screen over the opening. This explains the gray smoke , and some black smoke I never had before , not enough air. I also discovered oil in the tube connected to the intake manifold , not good , I assume the turbo has a bad seal . Needless to say, its going in  for a rebuild. So keep track of those paper towels , and save your turbo !

Happy Thanksgiving Pilgrims ,

Pat & Diane,

SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Jean Pierre & Company

My policy is for “agreed value” and they want to pay “market value”, I have to prove my boat was well maintained, etc. will go in detail.

Yes they likely will succeed in paying less, but I want everybody to be aware of their practices.

I did not spend 3 days “emptying” the boat, I spent 2.5 days complying with insurance regulations.

Every time there was a close risk of hurricane I did the same thing.
My insurance policy says: remove all sails (and personally I think it is stupid to remove the main and mizzen since they are in the mast - but this is what the insurance ask and if you don’t comply the policy says they will cancel the policy) removing and folding the Genoa, Staysail, Main and Mizzen took me 7 hours (I am by myself), then had to secure boom to deck, removing anything that can offer wind resistance (like putting the outboard into inside compartment).
Insurance ask to triple the dock lines, I did more than that as I had 21 dock lines and 2 chaines this it took me an entire day.
I already had lots of fencer on (always do), then I removed what you can.

I am not sure where you get the “bunker like” hotel. If this is because of the Hurricane proof window (which broke), for your information, ALL hotels and most houses have hurricane proof windows and shutters, I just pick the cheapest of the closest hotel.

2 persons asked me why I didn’t leave.
First, it is always easy to ask the question “after” the facts.

When in life people are faced with a danger (not just sailing but anything), the reaction is either “fight” or “fly”. Hesitation and changing your mind will always be against you.
Once you commit to one option, you can not change your mind as you loose valuable time. A typical example is: you drive the light goes orange, you either accelerate or stop. If you hesitate you loose time, if you first brake then accelerate or vice versa you end up in the middle of the intersection and put yourself more at risk of having an accident.

If mid way I had decided to leave (and where?) I would have spent many hours putting the sails back on.

Here are some example:
In 2014 Jerome (who asked me that question) owned a 54, we were in different marinas in Grand Bahama, both scarred, we stayed he even had his boat on a traveller, the storm passed far enough.
In 2015 I went to Atlantis Marina for Hurricane Joaquin which came pretty closed to Nassau, etc. then I made the mistake to leave too soon…
In 2016 Hurricane Matthew was too south be a factor but regardless my lines were tripled, etc. the dock master at Club Nautico called my boat a “Destroyer” because of all the fenders.
In July this year, I was in St Barth and there was chance of a tropical storm developing, like all my neighbors we was scarred because the port is not protected and they kick you out if there is a name storm. Every time the storm either did not form or went away and we celebrated but I decided to leave Gustavia.
Early August I called Port de Plaisance, since their Hurricane slips were already booked I contacted IGY who still had hurricane slips and moved there. For info, none of the boats in Port de Plaisance survived either.
Hurricane Irma was expected to pass 20 NM north of Sint Maarten.

So for those who think of leaving when a hurricane is coming.
Do you know how many people left and are missing?
Jean Pierre and many, likely have wife or girlfriends with them, etc.
I am single hand and my insurance policy specifically limits me to 24 hours, then I must anchor or go into a marina for x hours.
Some other insurance like Y Insurance (which I was considering) only allow 16 hours solo.
If you don’t respect that, your insurance will void your coverage and this can not only cost your vessel but also the damaged you did to another vessel.

Then, where do you go???
North? South?
BVI? (all destroyed now)
Puerto Rico?
Again easy to say after the facts.
Then let’s say you go.
A Super Maramu will do 7 kt, a name storm will move 15 kt.
People should look at the Beaufort scale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale
A Hurricane Category “1” has wave of 46 ft heigh. That is over 4 floor ups.
Do you want to take the risk to end up in something like that?
I heard many stories of people largely exaggerating “thinking” they were in 40 foot sea with 40 kt of wind…

Anyway, I feel I am getting upset so it is time to stop.

Alexandre




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On Wed, 11/22/17, Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air jgermain@xs4all.nl [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Helm cover
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 8:21 AM


 









Hello Pat & Alexandre,
I have been exposed to insurance
companies internal workings in the past.  I will play the
devil’s advocate here so don’t shot the
messenger.
- Their first reaction is to
refuse payment due to… name some excuse.
- Then they negotiate for a
lesser value than claimed… and normally, they will succeed
as the insured normally cannot afford the mounting lawyers
bills.
One important point to remember
in Alexandre’s case, is that he spent 3 days removing the
spares from his boat and moved to a “bunker like” hotel.
 They will latch on this to force the responsibility to
Alexandre… (why did you not sail your boat away?? Will be
the first question and regardless of his answer, the next
question will be… “why did you remove the spares from
your boat and move to “bunker”?
I hope owners who suffered
damages due to the hurricanes of this past season receive
fair treatment from their insurer;… but don’t expect
miracles!
Best of luck to you
Alexandre,

Jean-Pierre GermainSY Eleuthera, SM 007Panama.

On 22 Nov 2017, at 08:01, Patrick
Mcaneny sailw32@aol.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Alex, I had forgotten it was your boat
that was hit in Nassau , I remember how long that took to to
resolve , if it was resolved. You have had more than your
share of damage and hassles with insurance/repairs . I have
Pantaenius and without a question , they replaced every
piece of electronics on my boat ($58,000) total , all new
and better equipment , with no cost to me. So I can't
bring pressure , but if you are not treated fairly , I would
urge owners insured with your company  to cancel their
policies and sight your treatment for their cancellation
. Stay
Strong,PatSM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre
Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 22,
2017 6:48 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners]
Helm cover

 Thanks Pat.  

I hope the cover will be ok, may
be because it was in a compartment where water was not
exposed to the sun (so no growth). Otherwise it is sad to
see the growth slowly taking over…  

Based on my experience 3.5 years
ago in Nassau (a boat lost control and damaged my bow
pulpit) (and my insurance agreed I was at zero fault) I knew
it would be a fight.  
They are also doing
the exact same thing with Rafael, I will write all about
it. 

Anyway, have a great day. 

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Saltwater Manifold

Duane Siegfri
 

Scratch cleaning it up and painting it...  There was a hole in the AC Saltwater Pump supply nipple just above the hose.

I'm going to make one up out of bronze fittings, which come to $190 with shipping, but without the valve.  I used four 1.25" reducer Tees (to the 3/4" hose barb) and one 1.25" tee (to the one inch hose barb).  I needed one spacer so used a 1.25" coupler.

I can reuse the hose barb from the old valve.  Now just need the hose barbs and new hose to the seachest.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor chain channel liner

John Clark
 

Sorry,
  John Clark
SV Annie SM 37 
Sailing past West Palm Beach....

On Nov 21, 2017 10:22 AM, "thomas.kleman" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422; as the anchor chain exits the boat, underneath the chain forward of the windlass is some kind of heavy duty paper liner intended to protect the gelcoat/fiberglass underneath in the channel. Mine has worn badly........replacing this would be straightforward if I only knew what it was. Kind of looks like a heavy duty non-skid paper of some kind. Thoughts ?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor chain channel liner

John Clark
 

Hi Thomas,  I think we met in Le Marin at the rigging shop.

My SM is earlier and had only a small plate at the front of the channel.

I visited a SM in Portugal and they had coated the channel with a paint on black rubber.  Looked ok except the color.

I took that idea and used white FlexShield,  from a one quart can. Easy job and seems to be wearing well.  With some pigment you could match the gelcoat.

On Nov 21, 2017 10:22 AM, "thomas.kleman" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

I own L'ORIENT, SM2K #422; as the anchor chain exits the boat, underneath the chain forward of the windlass is some kind of heavy duty paper liner intended to protect the gelcoat/fiberglass underneath in the channel. Mine has worn badly........replacing this would be straightforward if I only knew what it was. Kind of looks like a heavy duty non-skid paper of some kind. Thoughts ?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

Courtney Gorman
 

Mark thank you so much
Happy Thanksgiving
Courtney



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Nov 22, 2017 2:12 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

 
Courtney,
 
Caribbean Islands
For paper guides, most cruisers use the series by Chris Doyle. They are adequate. For more current information join FB Groups, Active Captain, and Noonsite. http://www.doyleguides.com/
 
Bahamas
We used Explorer Guides. They are excellent! The charts in these books are very accurate. https://www.explorercharts.com/
 
For the Abacos Island of the Bahamas, Steve Dodge’s guide is the best: https://www.amazon.com/Cruising-Guide-Abaco-Bahamas-2017/dp/0932265979
 
 
All of these are available on Amazon
 
 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising – St Lucia
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts
 
 
Hi all I am looking for recommendations on Caribbean Cruising guides and Charts, would appreciate any and All advice
Thanks
Courtney
54 Trippin'
Brunswick

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

Mark Erdos
 

Courtney,

 

Caribbean Islands

For paper guides, most cruisers use the series by Chris Doyle. They are adequate. For more current information join FB Groups, Active Captain, and Noonsite. http://www.doyleguides.com/

 

Bahamas

We used Explorer Guides. They are excellent! The charts in these books are very accurate. https://www.explorercharts.com/

 

For the Abacos Island of the Bahamas, Steve Dodge’s guide is the best: https://www.amazon.com/Cruising-Guide-Abaco-Bahamas-2017/dp/0932265979

 

 

All of these are available on Amazon

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Caribbean Cruising Guides and Charts

 

 

Hi all I am looking for recommendations on Caribbean Cruising guides and Charts, would appreciate any and All advice

Thanks

Courtney

54 Trippin'

Brunswick

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Does my ONAN need a new 12V charger?

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi Bill,
thanks for your information.
I looked at IWW in St. Georges and catalogue and couldn't see the 1000 CCA starter battery there. Not sure that I will get it here in Grenada. The other reason I bought this battery was that before the boat had the same one built in. The former owner replaced it also in the Caribbean...
The next problem with batteries here in Grenada and other parts of the Caribbean is that the height of the battery compartment wouldn' allwo to install the (higher) american dimensions. The former owner changed the starter battery space, so I can at least have a higher battery there. But when I was looking for housing batteries in the U.S. earlier this year I found nothing. So I bought new housing batteries in St. Martin (Duracel AGM 12V 85A). They worked fine so far.
Yesterday I let the Volvo run for an hour and this morning I read 13,2V at the starter battery. Likelyhood increases that I have a problem with the 12V alternator on the ONAN.
A friend of mine will pass by with a battery load tester device tomorrow. Will know more by then..
Best regards, Alex
NO STRESS, AMEL54#15



On Monday, November 20, 2017, 5:49:52 PM GMT-4, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Alex, 

That 
​battery
 is undersized. Why did you buy a Grp27? Your 54 came with a Grp31
​.
 The Grp27 battery ​you bought is 840CCA. Deka makes a Grp 31 1000CCA battery.

Did you replace your other batteries?
Do you have the 4 cylinder Onan, or 3?

If you are reading battery voltage in the cockpit, you must be reading it on a Volvo output panel, which means that you have the entire suite of Volvo electronics, 2 computers and various sensors powered-up as well as the 12VDC exhaust fans running. I am guessing 6-10 amps at 12VDC draw on your starting battery. This is NOT a way to test resting voltage, nor is it the thing to do before starting the generator.

In my opinion, you undersized the starting battery. This is especially significant when we are talking about the generator. The length of 12VDC wire from the starting battery to the starter is almost 7 meters from battery to starting motor. If everything is perfect, the wire that Amel uses for this is adequate, but, with an undersized battery, I suspect NOT.

Continue testing the "resting voltage," but at the battery. Continue to look for resting voltage of less than 12.8 volts, then see if you can determine why. Turning ON your Volvo systems and energizing the fans will drop the voltage and drain the battery. You did not say whether you "prime" the Onan when starting. This is pressing and holding down before starting. This should not be necessary for you unless the Onan has not started in a while. If you do this before starting, you will drain the battery.

Hopefully, you will learn why the resting voltage got as low as 12.4 volts (basically discharged), and hopefully your battery is OK. However, I think you need to plan on replacing that Group 27 starting battery with the correct size. BTW, if after running the Onan only for 1-2 hours the resting voltage on the starting battery after turning OFF the Onan should be 12.8-12.9 VDC at the battery...if it is not, the little alternator on the Onan needs attention.

I have forgotten the output of that little alternator, but see to remember something like only 10 amps.

Good luck.

​Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

So these are the answers to Bill's questions:
1. I  read it from the display in the cockpit, which in the past showed the same numbers when I did it at the battery.
2. I went to IWW in St. Georges and the employee tested a battery in the shelf (they store them loaded), but I was stupid enought not to interfere when he took another battery from that same shelf when we went to the cashier.



4. This morning I saw 12,8V before starting and the genset started fine. But yesterday I had the main engine running for ca. 10 min after I discovered the starting problem.
5. I own no load tester, but I will get one from a friend and uncircle the problem....

Thanks for your advice,
Alex / NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15


On Sunday, November 19, 2017, 1:23:39 PM GMT-4, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:


 

It certainly looks like the alternator on the Onan is not charging the battery.


Lots of possible reasons... 

As with anything electrical, start with ALL the connections.  They are not always the most likely cause, but they are cheap and easy to fix, so it makes sense to test them first.  Since the problem started after a service on the generator, it is quite possible you bumped a wire and broke a connection somewhere.  Many times I have been working in the engine room and managed to bump the main power switch on the genset...  "Why won't this darn things start???"

Be sure to NEVER disconnect the alternator from the battery when it is running.  That will kill the diodes in very short order.

If it turns out the alternator is the source of the problem, it is almost certainly able to be rebuilt at a fr action of the cost of a new one.  That service is available all over.

Bill Kinney
sm160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com, wrote :

When the generator runs, I see 13,6V on the starter battery. When I turn the ignition key of the engine in the cockpit the current goes down to 13,2V (maybe because of the ventilator in engine room / generator is still running). When I start the main engine the current goes to 14,4V.

After servicing the ONAN and replacing the starter battery a short while ago, everything worked find for a while, but this morning the ONAN only started AFTER I started the main engine. The starter battery showed 12, 4 V initially. It showed 13,2 after I run the genset for 2h and then 12,8 anoher 2h later. All observations come from the little display in the cockpit.

So what is the conclusion of you fellow Amelians from this observations?

Thanks, Alex
SY NO STRESS in Grenada
AMEL54 #15





--
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin tigres

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Antonio,

No the cable is fine. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 22, 2017 11:21, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill,
I'll check the size, but I am agree with you...is the same. Do you think I could have problem with the cable size If I increase the watt from 1200 to 1500 ? 
Br
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On land in Rome 

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 12:27, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

 

Antonio,

It is 1200. The 1500 has only been available for less than 10 years...maybe 6-7. I believe they are the exact same size, but double check that.


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 22, 2017 05:15, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi owners,
I want to change my windlasses on my Santorin that's 20 years old. Does someone remember If is 1500 or 1200 watts? I remember 1200.
Thanks
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On Land in Rome

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antonio scipioni
 

Thank you Bill,
I'll check the size, but I am agree with you...is the same. Do you think I could have problem with the cable size If I increase the watt from 1200 to 1500 ? 
Br
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On land in Rome 

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Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 12:27, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Antonio,

It is 1200. The 1500 has only been available for less than 10 years...maybe 6-7. I believe they are the exact same size, but double check that.


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 22, 2017 05:15, "SN 108 Vagabundo stilemare@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi owners,
I want to change my windlasses on my Santorin that's 20 years old. Does someone remember If is 1500 or 1200 watts? I remember 1200.
Thanks
Antonio
Sn 108 vagabundo
On Land in Rome

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