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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Heat

Mark Erdos
 

Duane,

 

Oops sorry. Just saw the EH in your email. Forget the valve, you don’t have one.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 4:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Heat

 

 

We started the aft cabin Climma heater today and it's not working.

 

It starts to heat, based on my hand on the air outlet, but after 10 seconds or so blows only cold air.  So the heating element (we have the EH model) turns off after a few seconds.  I'll change the capacitors tomorrow, but can anyone add to the things for me to check?

 

Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Heat

Mark Erdos
 

Duane,

 

Is this a reverse cycle unit? Or, do you have a heating element?

 

If it is reverse cycle, there is a reverse cycle valve that can stick (I hope you problem is this easy). The valve makes the coolant flow the opposite direction and the unit will heat instead of cooling. If the heat has not been run for quite some time this valve can stick or fail to stay open. Most often tapping the valve with a pair of pliers can resolve the issue.

 

To All:

 

When you clean your air filters on the AC units, run the heat for a little while. This will prevent the reverse cycle valve from sticking.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 4:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Heat

 

 

We started the aft cabin Climma heater today and it's not working.

 

It starts to heat, based on my hand on the air outlet, but after 10 seconds or so blows only cold air.  So the heating element (we have the EH model) turns off after a few seconds.  I'll change the capacitors tomorrow, but can anyone add to the things for me to check?

 

Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Heat

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Duane,
What fan speed are you operating it at?  I read in the manual that you must use medium or high when heating, and I can confirm that mine shuts off if I use it in low.  I assume there is a thermal protection circuit inside the heater element; it will just stop heating and blow cold air.

There is no capacitor for the electric heat, only the blower and compressor.  I would assume your capacitor is fine since your blower works fine.

Have you confirmed that it doesn't believe it has reached the desired temperature?  You should be able to tell by turning the thermostat and hearing both it and the relay for the heat click.

BTW, I've just finished replacing 2 of the 3 Climma control units with new ones from Micro Air and they're pretty fantastic and it's a relatively easy change.  The only downside I've identified so far is a faint humm from the blower when operating at lower settings that wasn't present with the original control.  I assume it has something to do with digital vs analog controls.  I doubt this would change your situation though.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:56 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We started the aft cabin Climma heater today and it's not working.


It starts to heat, based on my hand on the air outlet, but after 10 seconds or so blows only cold air.  So the heating element (we have the EH model) turns off after a few seconds.  I'll change the capacitors tomorrow, but can anyone add to the things for me to check?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477



Climma Heat

Duane Siegfri
 

We started the aft cabin Climma heater today and it's not working.


It starts to heat, based on my hand on the air outlet, but after 10 seconds or so blows only cold air.  So the heating element (we have the EH model) turns off after a few seconds.  I'll change the capacitors tomorrow, but can anyone add to the things for me to check?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel SM 2000 windless switch

Mark Erdos
 

Hi all,

 

I ordered some of the buttons below to have as spares in case the replacement buttons I installed from Vetus fail. However, when they arrived I found they are way too small for the holes in the windlass.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 7:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel SM 2000 windless switch

 

 

When the rubber boots on mine failed I replaced the external windlass switches with these:

 

 

Waterproof, Sealed with o-rings, no exposed rubber to rot in the sun.

 

If these fail, I'll likely plug the holes permanently and only use my handheld remote, which is a better solution anyway.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, Maryland

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

Ryan Meador
 

My SM does not have the off switch in front of the pin, and does have the little locking post that keeps the pin in.  I thought the off switch was added with the SM2K.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:37 AM, pstas2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Thank you to all who responded.  I'm going to leave the adjustment as is and continue to use the cable grab method for inserting the pin.  It makes sense to me to keep the tension off the cables and on the pin.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising St. Lucia

www.RitaKathryn.com



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Thank you to all who responded.  I'm going to leave the adjustment as is and continue to use the cable grab method for inserting the pin.  It makes sense to me to keep the tension off the cables and on the pin.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising St. Lucia

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Volvo D3

hodginsbob@...
 

Courtney,
Bob here from Gallivant, 54 #31. I would like to talk to you on the phone if you can about the D3. You can reach me at 585.409.9869
Gallivant
Amel 54 #31
currently on St. Thomas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

It is correctly adjusted if you have to pull the wire to raise it about 10mm. 

About 11 years ago I discussed the adjustment of the wire with the Amel Service Manager in the Caribbean...he said, "don't touch it."

All, 

Remember that there are about 3 or 4 versions of the Amel Bow Thruster on the SN and SM. Advice from one owner pertaining to one version may screw up another version. Be careful.

Yesterday I was helping a SM owner and client of mine with a SM in the high 200s. The Thruster propeller shaft had a small dent where the seal meets the shaft. We were using the new spec 29mm seal. It leaked at the dent. We had a machine shop make a stainless steel sleeve for a 30mm shaft and seal it to the damaged shaft. $140USD for the custom sleeve and fitting it to the shaft including pick up and delivery on the same day. 

Sometimes you have to improvise 😊

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Dec 6, 2017 19:32, "pstas2003" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Tom,

Thank you for your response. 

I have been using the cable grab method to insert the pin, but what is the procedure to adjust the lift mechanism?


All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising St. Lucia

www.RitaKathryn.com



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

Mark Erdos
 

We arrived yesterday and are parked about 3 or 4 Amels away from Kimberlite.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark and Cindy

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 6:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

 

 

Hi All,

I will be in Martinique the evening of January 18 for a while,

Looks like the following boats will be there around that time,

Some owners will be on board and others will be away. In any event here seems to be the list

If you will be there around that time please add your name.

 

Jeff Krause 54 Spirit

Derek Gates 53 Brava

Miles Bidwell-not aboard 53 Lady Bug

Dan Carlson, BeBe, SM#387

Vladimir SM 345 "LIFE is Good"

Olaf MIA-AMARA,  Santorin  Ponton 5

James Cromie La Bella Vie (new owner) SM53

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

Eric Freedman
 

The Super Maramu has the on off switch in front of the pin. You cannot operate the bow thruster with the pin in place.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

 

 

Granted we're only talking millimeters, but it seems the lifting action should stop exactly at the level at which the pin can be inserted without squeezing the cables.. This will provide the proper compression of the shaft seals whether you pin it or not.

That is, if you need to squeeze the cables to get the pin in, either you're over-compressing the seals or they are under-compressed with the pin out.

We have ours lined up so the pin goes in snugly without squeezing the cables. Then, when we're making a passage and want to use the pin we insert it and then give a quick flip of the down switch to unload the cables so all the weight is on the pin..

As I mentioned in a previous post, we rotate the pin behind the locking post to prevent any possibility of it falling out, which is highly unlikely anyway what with all the weight on the pin. 

 

Craig Briggs, SN68

---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Tom,

 

The correct adjustment is where you ended up.  The last few millimeters of lift certainly should be by hand, squeezing the wires together.  This makes sure the pin is actually taking the load of the motor (which is HEAVY).  It would be not good at all to have the jack screw supporting the weight of the motor when pounding into a head sea.  As you also noted, if the pin is not doing any actual lifting, it just falls out.



This adjustment also prevents the jack screw from "dead heading" against a excessive load.  This would also be very bad for it.



This is one case where the correct adjustment is much easier to actually achieve than the wrong one!

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

Craig Briggs
 

Granted we're only talking millimeters, but it seems the lifting action should stop exactly at the level at which the pin can be inserted without squeezing the cables.. This will provide the proper compression of the shaft seals whether you pin it or not.
That is, if you need to squeeze the cables to get the pin in, either you're over-compressing the seals or they are under-compressed with the pin out.
We have ours lined up so the pin goes in snugly without squeezing the cables. Then, when we're making a passage and want to use the pin we insert it and then give a quick flip of the down switch to unload the cables so all the weight is on the pin..
As I mentioned in a previous post, we rotate the pin behind the locking post to prevent any possibility of it falling out, which is highly unlikely anyway what with all the weight on the pin. 

Craig Briggs, SN68

---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Tom,

The correct adjustment is where you ended up.  The last few millimeters of lift certainly should be by hand, squeezing the wires together.  This makes sure the pin is actually taking the load of the motor (which is HEAVY).  It would be not good at all to have the jack screw supporting the weight of the motor when pounding into a head sea.  As you also noted, if the pin is not doing any actual lifting, it just falls out.

This adjustment also prevents the jack screw from "dead heading" against a excessive load.  This would also be very bad for it.

This is one case where the correct adjustment is much easier to actually achieve than the wrong one!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

Craig Briggs
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

Eric Freedman
 

I also forgot to ask if you have the yanmar engine?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 9:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

 

 

Eric - thanks for getting a list together.  Jessica and I are looking forward to meeting the others when we head down to Le Marin.  We will be there 12/15 - 22, 1/9 - 15, and 2/23 - 3/4.  We’ll be down there again around 4/27 at which point we are planning on sailing up to Rhode Island.  

 

On our first trip down, we have a lot of gear to bring, but if anyone is in need of something being brought down, we’d be happy to try to help if possible. 

 

James

SV La Bella Vita

SM #347

 

On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:56 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi All,

I will be in Martinique the evening of January 18 for a while,

Looks like the following boats will be there around that time,

Some owners will be on board and others will be away. In any event here seems to be the list

If you will be there around that time please add your name.

 

Jeff Krause 54 Spirit

Derek Gates 53 Brava

Miles Bidwell-not aboard 53 Lady Bug

Dan Carlson, BeBe, SM#387

Vladimir SM 345 "LIFE is Good" 

Olaf MIA-AMARA,  Santorin  Ponton 5

James Cromie La Bella Vie (new owner) SM53

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

James Cromie
 

Eric - thanks for getting a list together.  Jessica and I are looking forward to meeting the others when we head down to Le Marin.  We will be there 12/15 - 22, 1/9 - 15, and 2/23 - 3/4.  We’ll be down there again around 4/27 at which point we are planning on sailing up to Rhode Island.  

On our first trip down, we have a lot of gear to bring, but if anyone is in need of something being brought down, we’d be happy to try to help if possible. 

James
SV La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:56 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi All,

I will be in Martinique the evening of January 18 for a while,

Looks like the following boats will be there around that time,

Some owners will be on board and others will be away. In any event here seems to be the list

If you will be there around that time please add your name.

 

Jeff Krause 54 Spirit

Derek Gates 53 Brava

Miles Bidwell-not aboard 53 Lady Bug

Dan Carlson, BeBe, SM#387

Vladimir SM 345 "LIFE is Good" 

Olaf MIA-AMARA,  Santorin  Ponton 5

James Cromie La Bella Vie (new owner) SM53

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 




Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

greatketch@...
 

Tom,

The correct adjustment is where you ended up.  The last few millimeters of lift certainly should be by hand, squeezing the wires together.  This makes sure the pin is actually taking the load of the motor (which is HEAVY).  It would be not good at all to have the jack screw supporting the weight of the motor when pounding into a head sea.  As you also noted, if the pin is not doing any actual lifting, it just falls out.

This adjustment also prevents the jack screw from "dead heading" against a excessive load.  This would also be very bad for it.

This is one case where the correct adjustment is much easier to actually achieve than the wrong one!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

greatketch@...
 

Paul,

On mine (which is older and might be a bit different...) the primary adjustment is where the cable attaches to the top of the motor.  If you loosen the jam nut, and pull the pin that hold the cable in place, there is a significant amount of vertical adjustment in the position of the motor by turning that fitting and varying the depth of thread in the motor.

I wouldn't adjust the position of the limit switches unless it was clear that was needed, and there was room in the travel of the jack screw to accommodate the change.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Easy Lock Companionway Slide

Eric Freedman
 

Bill,

I am also adding a block of some plastic like nylon or something more shock resistant to the area above the locking board.

In this way when I pull up the companionway it will be in the exact place to close the latches. I am tired of having to look at the board to see if it is lined up.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 7:10 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Easy Lock Companionway Slide

 

 

Bill,

I actually like the metal ones better. However I did not know of them at the time.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Easy Lock Companionway Slide

 

 

The files on the homemade cam were posted by Bill Rouse.  They are a great design and I am sure work well, and certainly look great.

 

As a full time liveaboard, the option of machining teak really isn't available to me.  Even if it was, my time is more valuable than the cost of the commercially available lever cams.  

 

Of course there are others who would enjoy the process of making them from scratch, and not put a price on the time involved.  They will end up with something more elegant than I have and I would not begrudge them such satisfaction for a second.

 

The commercial product is certainly not as nice a solution as the custom made teak cams, but are they are way better than the handwheels!

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Easy Lock Companionway Slide

Eric Freedman
 

Bill,

I actually like the metal ones better. However I did not know of them at the time.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Easy Lock Companionway Slide

 

 

The files on the homemade cam were posted by Bill Rouse.  They are a great design and I am sure work well, and certainly look great.

 

As a full time liveaboard, the option of machining teak really isn't available to me.  Even if it was, my time is more valuable than the cost of the commercially available lever cams.  

 

Of course there are others who would enjoy the process of making them from scratch, and not put a price on the time involved.  They will end up with something more elegant than I have and I would not begrudge them such satisfaction for a second.

 

The commercial product is certainly not as nice a solution as the custom made teak cams, but are they are way better than the handwheels!

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: Bow Thruster Travel Adjustment

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Tom,

Thank you for your response. 

I have been using the cable grab method to insert the pin, but what is the procedure to adjust the lift mechanism?

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising St. Lucia

www.RitaKathryn.com