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Re: soon to be 48 owner with a few questions.....

Dave_Benjamin
 

Jean Paul,

I looked at the websites. I guess I should have taken French in school
in school instead of Spanish. C'est la vie. So far in my assessment of
hull #29 I have to agree that the originally installed equipment and
general construction is quite good. Fortunately much of the owner
installed equipment is pretty well done, particularly the electrical
redo. I own a moisture meter and found elevated readings through much
of the elevated portion of the foredeck to about a meter or two
forward of the past.

There are gate valves still installed in several locations which I
know the insurance company will require to be changed to proper
seacocks. There is no holding tank for the aft head. LPG system will
need updating. Some hardware on the spin poles is frozen up. Nothing
too major thus far. I have a meeting with the owner today to go
through systems so I will be far better informed soon.

Thanks again for the reply and the websites. I guess I will look for a
French-English dictionary;-) Merci!



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jeanpaulmary"
<schooner.jpm@...> wrote:

Hi,
I own myself the Maramu 19 and I'ld like to say, by experience, the
problems are in the equipement improperly fitted by previous owners or
so called "professionnal".
Every original équippement have been done for the best (difficult to
appreciate) usage and long-lasting service (sorry for my english, I'm
much better in french!).
For exemple:
-a 220v circuit have been implemented, with 2 electric heaters, I had to
renew it completly as it was dangerous,
-the 3 navigation lights have been changed and were connected just with
twisted wire and tape under the deck!
-the raw water pump as been renewed but not using the original Perkins
rotary seal but with a O'ring one, of course after few hours it was
leaking (and it's a professionnal mecanics who made the job with an
expensive invoice!)
- the fuel-fired air heater as been removed
- a removable forestay as been fited but the attachement point so
stupidly made that water was entering inside a locker
-the electronic instruments have been changed changed with a nice B&G
set but improperly connected so the pilot had no information from the
wind sensor (it's so easy to do a proper job that I can't understand how
it can happen)
and so on....
The good sites I know on this yachts are in french I'm not sure it'll
help:
http://www.amel.fr/
http://www.amelcaramel.net/
http://www.forum-voiliers-amel.net/

You can ask me questions about the Maramu, I'll try to answer you
Best regards
Jean Paul


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin"
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Hi all,

We have a 1979 Maramu 48 under contract in California and will be
doing our sea trial and survey shortly. We have owned a number of
other boats up to 39 feet but this is our first experience with an
Amel.

Is there anything specific to Amel's we should be looking out for
during survey? This particular boat had a very extensive refit
recently including a new Yanmar, all new electrical system, and
electronics so those are areas we don't anticipate problems.

I'm also interested in links to any good resources to learn more about
these boats.


Re: soon to be 48 owner with a few questions.....

jeanpaulmary <schooner.jpm@...>
 

Hi,
I own myself the Maramu 19 and I'ld like to say, by experience, the
problems are in the equipement improperly fitted by previous owners or
so called "professionnal".
Every original équippement have been done for the best (difficult to
appreciate) usage and long-lasting service (sorry for my english, I'm
much better in french!).
For exemple:
-a 220v circuit have been implemented, with 2 electric heaters, I had to
renew it completly as it was dangerous,
-the 3 navigation lights have been changed and were connected just with
twisted wire and tape under the deck!
-the raw water pump as been renewed but not using the original Perkins
rotary seal but with a O'ring one, of course after few hours it was
leaking (and it's a professionnal mecanics who made the job with an
expensive invoice!)
- the fuel-fired air heater as been removed
- a removable forestay as been fited but the attachement point so
stupidly made that water was entering inside a locker
-the electronic instruments have been changed changed with a nice B&G
set but improperly connected so the pilot had no information from the
wind sensor (it's so easy to do a proper job that I can't understand how
it can happen)
and so on....
The good sites I know on this yachts are in french I'm not sure it'll
help:
http://www.amel.fr/
http://www.amelcaramel.net/
http://www.forum-voiliers-amel.net/

You can ask me questions about the Maramu, I'll try to answer you
Best regards
Jean Paul


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin"
<dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Hi all,

We have a 1979 Maramu 48 under contract in California and will be
doing our sea trial and survey shortly. We have owned a number of
other boats up to 39 feet but this is our first experience with an
Amel.

Is there anything specific to Amel's we should be looking out for
during survey? This particular boat had a very extensive refit
recently including a new Yanmar, all new electrical system, and
electronics so those are areas we don't anticipate problems.

I'm also interested in links to any good resources to learn more about
these boats.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hot water expansion tank, Sulajon

eric freedman
 

John,

I had the same problem and plugged the tank. The system seemed to run the
same since there is an expansion tank on the water pump. When I arrived in
St Martin, they had an exact replacement for about $80- at budget marine.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jfolino901
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:46 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hot water expansion tank, Sulajon



Has anyone found all the tank water gone without a reason? I did today.
It turns out my 750 liters leaked from a hole in the expansion tank
into tghe bilge which while I sailed along oblivious to the problem,
only to find the water pump running when I got to port. I checked the
water tank, found it to be empty?? How? I ran the water maker, made
some water & ran the water pump. Seeing a flow of water I searched and
found a hole in the expansion. I disconnected the expansion tank, stuck
a tapered wooden plug into the hose, made more water, turned the water
pump on & water pressure.
As for the tank, I'll get one.

What is the downside of no expansion tank? Any suggestions short term?

John Folino


engine room layup and fresh water.

eric freedman
 

When we attended the one week school with amel they suggested the following:
shut off the main seacock and with a fresh water hose running into the sea strainer run,
the engine
generator,
2 toilets
air conditioning
and anchor wash.
no smelly toilets on return !!!
I do this when i leave the boat for any time more than 2 weeks.
eric sm 376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white puffy smoke or steam -

eric freedman
 

Bill,
I ordered one in 24 volts so my wiring was easier.
I mounted the annunciator on the side of the companionway next to the amel no water annunciator. I then which is right next to the breaker panel and hooked it into the cabin lighting breaker.
It was then easy to run the sender wire along the width of the compartment with the autopilot drive and follow the wires down in the port cockpit locker and then to the hose.
Fair winds,
eric sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: svbebe
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:28 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white puffy smoke or steam -
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Thanks Eric,

I bought one some time ago on your recommendation. I just have not
installed it because it operates on 12 volts. However, so does the
engine. I will install it tomorrow.

Any hints on the installation?

Regards,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

You might also think of adding a high temperature alarm to the water
exhaust hose of th engine.
it goes off at 150 degrees at a temperature low enough to save the
hose and the muffler. you can see
what happens if you do not have one . there is a picture of my
melted muffler in the photo section.
the alarm costs about $90- from Borel manufacturing in the
USA. it
is a one hour install.
My muffler melted along with hose damage and the engine high temp
alarm never went off.
Fair winds,
eric sm 376 Kimberlite


----- Original Message -----
From: amelliahona
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:06 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white
puffy smoke or steam - overheating at high
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Great Post Bill,

This is a routine maintenance that I hadn't even thought
of doing. I will add it to the rowing list.

Gary Silver S/V Liahona Amel SM2000 #335

".....If you are in the tropics with prolific barnacles and
mussels, we
recommend a check of this transmission oil cooler every 250 hours.

We posted photos in a new folder named "Transmission Oil Cooler."








Transmission oil cooler

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

This cooler is the first one in the hose carrying all the cooling sea
water to the engine etc.and is thus the first thing to collect any
trash that gets past the main sea water filter.Note that this cooler
is small and has small bypass cooling tubes.
I had a problem with my engine and called in a mechanic who
disconnected the hose from the cooler and it was nearly totally
blocked with bits of weed.He opened the main filter which was full
with a grass type weed and cleared all of this out but in the process
found that there was no gasket at the bottom of the filter housing so
he cut out a new gasket to stop detritus from bypassing the
filter.This gasket had been missing from original delivery or
manufacture!
So far so good but there is a design fault with the filter in that
it is basically an open tube so that when removed it does not take
all the rubbish with it thus leaving some floating in the sea water
in the housing. Some of this can be removed by hand but to clear it
all it is necessary to open the sea cock to make the housing overflow
carrying the trash with it. It is then necessary to wash all the sea
water off with fresh water from the general area to avoid corrosion.
A quite different probem is the birth of new barnacles etc. If the
sea water system is left standing in the right conditions for any
period of time, for example, over winter. These will develop and
perhaps later be washed up against the cooler and will also start to
grow in the impellor housing with, if they grow and adhere
enough,will damage the impellor.
The answer to that would be to turn off the sea water cock and put a
fresh water hose in the filter housing then starting the engine to
flush out all the sea water from the entire cooling system although I
imagine that anything that grows in the hot part of the circuit would
be cooked and be flushed away in due course.

Envying those in the Caribbean, Anne & John, SM319


[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white puffy smoke or steam -

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thanks Eric,

I bought one some time ago on your recommendation. I just have not
installed it because it operates on 12 volts. However, so does the
engine. I will install it tomorrow.

Any hints on the installation?

Regards,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

You might also think of adding a high temperature alarm to the water
exhaust hose of th engine.
it goes off at 150 degrees at a temperature low enough to save the
hose and the muffler. you can see
what happens if you do not have one . there is a picture of my
melted muffler in the photo section.
the alarm costs about $90- from Borel manufacturing in the USA. it
is a one hour install.
My muffler melted along with hose damage and the engine high temp
alarm never went off.
Fair winds,
eric sm 376 Kimberlite


----- Original Message -----
From: amelliahona
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:06 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white
puffy smoke or steam - overheating at high
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Great Post Bill,

This is a routine maintenance that I hadn't even thought
of doing. I will add it to the rowing list.

Gary Silver S/V Liahona Amel SM2000 #335

".....If you are in the tropics with prolific barnacles and
mussels, we
recommend a check of this transmission oil cooler every 250 hours.

We posted photos in a new folder named "Transmission Oil Cooler."





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white puffy smoke or steam - overheating at high

eric freedman
 

You might also think of adding a high temperature alarm to the water exhaust hose of th engine.
it goes off at 150 degrees at a temperature low enough to save the hose and the muffler. you can see
what happens if you do not have one . there is a picture of my melted muffler in the photo section.
the alarm costs about $90- from Borel manufacturing in the USA. it is a one hour install.
My muffler melted along with hose damage and the engine high temp alarm never went off.
Fair winds,
eric sm 376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: amelliahona
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:06 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white puffy smoke or steam - overheating at high
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Great Post Bill,

This is a routine maintenance that I hadn't even thought
of doing. I will add it to the rowing list.

Gary Silver S/V Liahona Amel SM2000 #335

".....If you are in the tropics with prolific barnacles and
mussels, we
recommend a check of this transmission oil cooler every 250 hours.

We posted photos in a new folder named "Transmission Oil Cooler."





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Trinidad storage at Peake´s

Sailing Vessel Bozo Cinq <bozocinq@...>
 

Ian & Judy,



Someone recommended the following for Air conditioner in Trinidad.



Coast to Coast Service, Richard Hosan, tel: 868-680-2343, email:
gokool@tstt.net.tt (I am not sure about the email address-the .net.tt does
not seem correct?-If not try other variations such as .net or .tt after
tstt)



Gary L. Wollenberg

Sailing Vessel “Bozo Cinq”

bozocinq@wollenberg.net







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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Trinidad storage at Peake´s



Ian & Judy,

We left BeBe in the water at Coral Cove for 3 weeks while we traveled
Peru. We rented an A/C unit that was delivered and installed in the
saloon hatch. I worked great. Trinidad can be very humid. You
should rent an A/C unit. I am sure that Peake's can recommend a supplier.

Regards,

Bill & Judy Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Currently in Panama awaiting transit to the Pacific

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Ian & Judy Jenkins
<ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:


Hi All, We shall be leaving Pen Azen ashore at Peake´s in Trindad
for 6 months from May. Someone has suggested that we hire aircon to
avoid damp and mildew. I remember Trinidad as being a particularly
rainy place.
Has anyone left their Amel in Trinidad , ashore, for the summer and
had problems with damp?
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Buzios, Brazil
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Re: Transmission Oil Cooler and white puffy smoke or steam - overheating at high

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Great Post Bill,

This is a routine maintenance that I hadn't even thought
of doing. I will add it to the rowing list.

Gary Silver S/V Liahona Amel SM2000 #335

".....If you are in the tropics with prolific barnacles and mussels, we
recommend a check of this transmission oil cooler every 250 hours.

We posted photos in a new folder named "Transmission Oil Cooler."


Transmission Oil Cooler and white puffy smoke or steam - overheating at high RPM

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Greetings,

We were experiencing white puffy smoke or steam and overheating at
high RMP. This symptom means that it is likely that water is hitting
a hot mixing elbow in spurts rather than an even flow.

We did the obvious things we thought:
• Checked the Water Chest Strainer (it was OK)
• Replaced the Impeller (old one looked fine)
• Removed and cleaned the heat exchanger (looked OK)
• Removed and cleaned the Turbo Intercooler (looked OK)
• Replaced the thermostat (did not check the old one)

The problem continued. Then I recalled that the transmission oil
cooler is plumbed in-line with the sea water line from the Water Chest
to the sea water pump. It is relatively simple to disconnect the
rubber end boots from the cooler.

We disconnected both ends of the cooler. On the inlet side of the
cooler we found about 1/3 cup of small mussel shells and other debris
which almost completely blocked the water flow.

If you are in the tropics with prolific barnacles and mussels, we
recommend a check of this transmission oil cooler every 250 hours.

We posted photos in a new folder named "Transmission Oil Cooler."

Best,

Bill Rouse
S/V BeBe SM2 #387


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Re: Trinidad storage at Peake´s

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ian & Judy,

We left BeBe in the water at Coral Cove for 3 weeks while we traveled
Peru. We rented an A/C unit that was delivered and installed in the
saloon hatch. I worked great. Trinidad can be very humid. You
should rent an A/C unit. I am sure that Peake's can recommend a supplier.

Regards,

Bill & Judy Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Currently in Panama awaiting transit to the Pacific

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ian & Judy Jenkins
<ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:


Hi All, We shall be leaving Pen Azen ashore at Peake´s in Trindad
for 6 months from May. Someone has suggested that we hire aircon to
avoid damp and mildew. I remember Trinidad as being a particularly
rainy place.
Has anyone left their Amel in Trinidad , ashore, for the summer and
had problems with damp?
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Buzios, Brazil
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Trinidad storage at Peake´s

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi All, We shall be leaving Pen Azen ashore at Peake´s in Trindad for 6 months from May. Someone has suggested that we hire aircon to avoid damp and mildew. I remember Trinidad as being a particularly rainy place.
Has anyone left their Amel in Trinidad , ashore, for the summer and had problems with damp?
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Buzios, Brazil
_________________________________________________________________
Share what Santa brought you
https://www.mycooluncool.com

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Super Maramu for sale

C G <camacfinancial@...>
 

Dear Ron and Heather,

Do you have any pictures available?

Kind Regards,

Caspar SM39


Ron and Heather BROWN <tradewindshull171@yahoo.com> wrote:
We have just returned from 3 year's cruising in SE Asia and have now
decided to sell our Super Maramu. She was constructed in 10/96 and has
been very well maintained by the original owners and ouselves. The
yacht is an Australian Registered Yacht. Also it is fitted with
professionally made electric S/S davits carrying the Aquapro Rib and
15hp outboard.

A full maintenance schedule since we owned the yacht is available.

For further information please email us direct at -
ronandheather@bigpond.com

Ron and Heather BROWN - SM #171






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Running Rigging

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Casper, I bought my mainsheet and gib traveller lines from Amel. They cost more but they fit, had the eyes propally spliced in and they even give you new tightening lines,plus they look original.
John "Moon Dog" SM 248


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: camacfinancial@yahoo.comDate: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:36:50 +0000Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Running Rigging




Dear All,Next week the HISWA (Dutch Sailing Expo) takes place on which splendid deals can be made. As the new owner of a SM (#39) I would love to replace my running rigging. Does someone have an overview of the original running rigging configuration (all ropes; halyards, sheets, etc...) Length + thickness?ThanksCaspar






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I am lookin to purchase two nav net vx2 ten inch displays if anyone
knows of the availability of these units please have them get in touch
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