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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] STOCK SAILS FOR A SUPER MARAMU

Patrick McAneny
 

Ken, I may be ready for a new main, What did Q sails charge for a new mainsail?
Thanks,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Dec 18, 2017 9:43 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] STOCK SAILS FOR A SUPER MARAMU

 

To All,

Aquarius has received her new sails (Main, Mizzen, and Genoa) from QSails in Turkey.  And, I am 100% happy with the final fit,  price, quality, and performance of the sails I received.   Aquarius was fitted with the sails in Trinidad and has used them to sail to Grenada, ABC Islands, Columbia, and now in Panama.  I didn't want to write a review until I had time to use sails.   

Service was excellent, and the owners were available anytime to discuss the sails...  But, the best thing is....  THEY KNOW AMEL....  I didn't have to measure ANYTHING, just gave QSAILS the Hull Number 262...  I  asked for STOCK sails as AMEL put on Aquarius when new (except I wanted Hydranet with a foam luff).  

So, if you want stock sails that fit the first time for your AMEL,  call Tashin at QSAILS!  There are many sailmakers that just don't get how the Super Maramu uses the Genoa for a down wind sail as well.  And, you can give them all the measurements you can muster, and you still won't get what you want.  

Contact at QSails -   Emrah Oge <emrahoge@...

I just wanted the stock sails!  And, that's what I got!  

Thanks Bill (BeBe) for giving me QSAIL's contact information !  

Ken Powers
SV Aquarius SM2K #262
Currently in Panama's Shelter Bay Marina
Plan to Transit Panama Canal on Dec 30, 2017


Re: Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

Miles
 

Mike,

 

A while back someone at Amel told me to always leave it in forward and to never even put the transmission in neutral when sailing.  The explanation was that the Autoprop will spin in reverse (or try to) when the boat is moving forward.  The idea is to stop the engine with it still in gear and then push it all the way forward.  To start the engine, pull back on the throttle as far as possible while leaving it in gear.  Then start the engine.   Putting the transmission in neutral allows the prop to spin—fast in reverse.  Then when you move it into gear,  the small clutches in the transmission get a ferocious bang.   They don’t last very long with much of this treatment.   Leaving it in forward makes sure that the transmission never is subjected to a shock.  

This has worked for me for over 45,000 miles.

 

Regards,

 

Miles  Ladybug  sm216  Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seafood Party in Martinique

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seafood Party in Martinique

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jeff,

I would fly to Martinique to get some more of your oysters and scallops. But, I cannot because I am flying to New Caledonia with a Amel 54 client at that time.

Every Amel owner near Martinique,

You should go to Martinique for this. Jeff's oysters are the very best available...the scallops he catches are also top-notch.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Onan genset trouble code "seven blinks"

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I believe that one thing that many of us forget to do is clean the inside of the impeller housing before declaring the job finished with the impeller change. I also believe that the roughness of the inside of that housing which is caused by mineral deposits is the number one reason for short life of impellers.

It is easy clean it on the Onan if you remove the pump when changing the impeller...there is one bolt and another bolt and nut connecting the pump to the block. 

I use emery cloth or wet/dry sandpaper to clean the impeller housing. Before inserting the new impeller, feel the inside of the pump housing...is it perfectly smooth? I doubt it...polish it before inserting the impeller. Be sure to remove all of the grit from cleaning it. It should look shiny and feel smooth.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 7:49 PM, john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All, 

  First thanks for all the advice, Especially Bill, Eric, Porter, Thomas,Mark, and Bob, you all are great!

  We have everything back on line now.  Will post some pics to FB later.  

Bill:  You are right as usual except, as you pointed out during my purchasing process when I sent you some photos (which you helped me with a lot, and I am indebted...) that the genset and engine were NOT original.  They were replaced by Amel in 2003 with the newer versions.  So yes I have the "no SW flow" sensor that Eric speaks of and yes Eric, I did remove it and clean out the port.  It think the post impeller change no SW flow was however caused by the 14 impeller vanes clogging the heat exchanger down stream.   My heat exchanger has an end cap with one bolt making it easy to remove and inspect...and pull vanes from :)

I think the previo us owner changed the impeller. some time in the past..and left some vane-debris in the flow path, I found fourteen vanes in the heat exchanger.  The new impeller has twelve....hmmm

Anyway, we were "down" for less than one hour...mostly thanks to having the right onboard spares...and Capt. Mcguver.

  Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie  SM 37
Moored (finally) in St.  Augustine Florida for Christmas.

    





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Santorin Propeller Question

Ian Park
 

Hi Herbert,
The basic boat survived the heat/rain very well. But a number of bits stopped working. The water maker suffered with o ring deterioration having been pickled for 18 months. All working fine now = Echotetc very helpful. The masthead tricolour didn’t work nor the steaming light. After two days on anchor! The anchor light gave up. The wind instruments stopped transmitting and the sail discs on the first spreaders fell on the deck in pieces. Anything rubber suffered and some plastics didn’t do too well, but nothing wrong with the bits AMEL built. The engine started first turn of the key too.

I think my gearbox was damaged because the dipstick was cross threaded and the gears chewed bits off it! Having said that the casing gasket was leaking - apparently it has two halves.

I can’t see the point of an oil cooler if the boat hasn’t had one for 20 odd years.

Have a great time in the Pacific.

Best wishes

Ian and Linda


Re: STOCK SAILS FOR A SUPER MARAMU

Dave_Benjamin
 

For those who prefer to deal with a sailmaker who has not only built many Amel sails, but actually owned and sailed an Amel, my company Island Planet Sails is an option. We're US based. 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Santorin Propeller Question

James Alton
 

All,

I got a quick response from Foley with regards to stainless the trans cooler and a question about the approximate life expectancy for my Hurth 250 transmission.  It appears that my trans might be original so apparently now has over 4,000 hours on it.  

James,

1) ALU vs Stainless.  We just couldn't maintain the price point we needed to sell them.  We could build Mercedes-like coolers but if a Honda does the job.....

2) a Hurth 250 bolted to a 4154 is a good application.  They have been used on larger more powerful engines such as the Perkins 4236 with good longevity.

Good maintenance will of course prolong its life.

Best,

Sincerely, 

Dr. Diesel

James 
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Dec 17, 2017, at 8:53 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

For what it is worth... I'd go with what Foley says... They know their stuff...


Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Help - 5-Year Plan

sailingaquarius@...
 

Hello Alex,

This is Ken on Aquarius.  I am so sorry to hear about Nikimat, and hope your issues with the insurance company will be resolved in the near future.  

I had heard that you have many spare parts, and trying to sell them.  Do you still have any Main Outhaul Motors/Gears?  If so, please let me know.

All the best,

Ken Powers
Aquarius
Currently in Panama
Shelter Bay Marina


Re: Amel Santorin Propeller Question

Azimuth
 

Alan,

Thanks so much. I also have an MS25, so it sounds as though we were correct to use 15W40. We've just had a mechanic out to the boat and it turns out that the clutch is gone, so the gearbox is going out as we speak. Thanks again for all of the advice and helpful information. This group really is invaluable!

Regards,

Lisa
s/v Azimuth, Santorin #143


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Santorin Propeller Question

alainfeuillet@...
 

Hi all,
I have just uploaded in the section Files/Volvo an official Volvo document specifying the oil to be used for each transmission.
I have a MS25 transmission and I had several missed reverse experience before I got this doc. I discovered the precedent "maintenance guy" had put ATF although volvo recommended to use 15W40. For 5 years when I changed for engine oil, I never experienced again a missed reverse.
Kind regards
Alain
(PILGRIM SM#26)


New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,

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Description : Volvo Tech doc for transmisson oil

You can access this file at the URL:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

Eric Freedman
 

Mike,

Too bad,

On my last few boats Yanmar also said to leave the tranny in reverse.

Even with the folding prop, if the disk brake pads become worn, the shaft spins like crazy.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 12:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

 

 

Eric,

Negative.

Thanks,

Mike

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 12:32 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

 

 

Mike,

Does Aletes have a disk brake on the drive shaft?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

 

 

Who’d of thought there was so much to know about transmissions and their lubrication! Foley website full of interesting information. On a related topic.

 

Dr. Diesel Tip #101 at Foley says DO NOT put Hurth trans into forward to stop freewheeling, only reverse.

We have always put the trans in forward to stop the freewheeling and fold the Autoprop when under sail. Given Amels have a “C” drive, does Dr. Diesels Tip apply? Have to pose the question just in case there are opinions among our ranks.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Falmouth Harbor, Antigua

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

Mike Ondra
 

Eric,

Negative.

Thanks,

Mike

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 12:32 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

 

 

Mike,

Does Aletes have a disk brake on the drive shaft?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

 

 

Who’d of thought there was so much to know about transmissions and their lubrication! Foley website full of interesting information. On a related topic.

 

Dr. Diesel Tip #101 at Foley says DO NOT put Hurth trans into forward to stop freewheeling, only reverse.

We have always put the trans in forward to stop the freewheeling and fold the Autoprop when under sail. Given Amels have a “C” drive, does Dr. Diesels Tip apply? Have to pose the question just in case there are opinions among our ranks.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Falmouth Harbor, Antigua

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seafood Party in Martinique

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

Eric Freedman
 

Mike,

Does Aletes have a disk brake on the drive shaft?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

 

 

Who’d of thought there was so much to know about transmissions and their lubrication! Foley website full of interesting information. On a related topic.

 

Dr. Diesel Tip #101 at Foley says DO NOT put Hurth trans into forward to stop freewheeling, only reverse.

We have always put the trans in forward to stop the freewheeling and fold the Autoprop when under sail. Given Amels have a “C” drive, does Dr. Diesels Tip apply? Have to pose the question just in case there are opinions among our ranks.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Falmouth Harbor, Antigua

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

James Alton
 

Mike,

   My Maramu has a plate mounted just in front of the shift lever warning to never leave the transmission in Fwd. gear while sailing.  My boat has a fixed 20” (?) 3 blade prop which can produce a large amount of torque when sailing at higher speeds.  I am guessing that since your prop feathers(so produces little torque if any when feathered)  that it may not matter as much which gear you use but apparently due to the design the Reverse gear is stronger and therefore safer to use when locking the prop shaft.  Perhaps others can verify if this would be correct.

   I also read in Foley the these gears seem to last about 1000 hours on average.  The gear on my boat has the same paint as the engine and I don’t see any evidence of it having been replaced.  The engine now has just over 4,000 hours.  Could others comment on the life expectancy the have experienced with the Hurth gears?  My boat appears to have had an aluminum cooler for a very long time,  it may in fact have been original based on the installation.  I replaced the old cooler with a new aluminum one.  The old one was not leaking but when cleaning out the inside I found several pin holes that were only plugged with corrosion so it was overdue.  I just got an email back from Foley saying that they have discontinued selling the stainless coolers and now only sell the aluminum.  I wonder if there were corrosion concerns betwee the aluminum gear case and the stainless coolers.  I will try to find out. 

Best,

James
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

On Dec 18, 2017, at 11:19 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Who’d of thought there was so much to know about transmissions and their lubrication! Foley website full of interesting information. On a related topic.

 

Dr. Diesel Tip #101 at Foley says DO NOT put Hurth trans into forward to stop freewheeling, only reverse.

We have always put the trans in forward to stop the freewheeling and fold the Autoprop when under sail. Given Amels have a “C” drive, does Dr. Diesels Tip apply? Have to pose the question just in case there are opinions among our ranks.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Falmouth Harbor, Antigua

 




Hurth Transmissions freewheeling folding prop

Mike Ondra
 

Who’d of thought there was so much to know about transmissions and their lubrication! Foley website full of interesting information. On a related topic.

 

Dr. Diesel Tip #101 at Foley says DO NOT put Hurth trans into forward to stop freewheeling, only reverse.

We have always put the trans in forward to stop the freewheeling and fold the Autoprop when under sail. Given Amels have a “C” drive, does Dr. Diesels Tip apply? Have to pose the question just in case there are opinions among our ranks.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Falmouth Harbor, Antigua

 


Re: Seafood Party in Martinique

Miles
 

Jeff,
That sounds great! Ladybug crew will be there.
Miles
S/y Ladybug. Sm 216
Martinique


STOCK SAILS FOR A SUPER MARAMU

Ken Powers <sailingaquarius@...>
 


To All,

Aquarius has received her new sails (Main, Mizzen, and Genoa) from QSails in Turkey.  And, I am 100% happy with the final fit,  price, quality, and performance of the sails I received.   Aquarius was fitted with the sails in Trinidad and has used them to sail to Grenada, ABC Islands, Columbia, and now in Panama.  I didn't want to write a review until I had time to use sails.   

Service was excellent, and the owners were available anytime to discuss the sails...  But, the best thing is....  THEY KNOW AMEL....  I didn't have to measure ANYTHING, just gave QSAILS the Hull Number 262...  I  asked for STOCK sails as AMEL put on Aquarius when new (except I wanted Hydranet with a foam luff).  

So, if you want stock sails that fit the first time for your AMEL,  call Tashin at QSAILS!  There are many sailmakers that just don't get how the Super Maramu uses the Genoa for a down wind sail as well.  And, you can give them all the measurements you can muster, and you still won't get what you want.  

Contact at QSails -   Emrah Oge <emrahoge@...

I just wanted the stock sails!  And, that's what I got!  

Thanks Bill (BeBe) for giving me QSAIL's contact information!  

Ken Powers
SV Aquarius SM2K #262
Currently in Panama's Shelter Bay Marina
Plan to Transit Panama Canal on Dec 30, 2017