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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi Arno,
sure I would love any and all information
itsfun1@...
thank you very much
Courtney
Trippin'


-----Original Message-----
From: arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 5:45 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

 
Hi,
You could consider Curacao as well. Direct flights into Miami and New York available.
The Marina in Curacao has special arrangenments for long term storage and are reasonably equipped. There is a Budget Marine and an Island Waterworld chandlery on the Island.
It is actually easier for a non-resident to keep his/her boat here then for a resident :-(
Let me know if you would like more information. In case you wonder, I have no relations to the marina, so it’s not a sales pitch.

Kind regards,
Arno Luijten
Curacao

Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Arno Luijten
 

Hi,
You could consider Curacao as well. Direct flights into Miami and New York available.
The Marina in Curacao has special arrangenments for long term storage and are reasonably equipped. There is a Budget Marine and an Island Waterworld chandlery on the Island.
It is actually easier for a non-resident to keep his/her boat here then for a resident :-(
Let me know if you would like more information. In case you wonder, I have no relations to the marina, so it’s not a sales pitch.

Kind regards,
Arno Luijten
Curacao

Re :RE: Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Right  on
Which is  why I will go  for replacement by new engine when  in Martinique before heading  down  south To tackle the  roaring  & howling. 
Butter the  wind than me.
Thanks  for the  assistance  sharing  information  & service.
Have  a good 'entrera no ano novo

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo.

Le dim., déc. 31, 2017 à 18:17, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
a écrit :
 

I think Joel was right on with his diagnosis:

 

 

More than likely your problem is the crankshaft bearings and the connecting rod bearings clearances are too large. As the engine warms the expansion of components causes the clearances to increase even more and hence the oil pressure to go down.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

 

 

 

Christian,

 

I am afraid I have no good ideas that match your symptoms!  Since you have both the gauge and alarm reporting low pressure, I have to assume it is real and not a problem with the measurement.

 

Sometimes low oil level can cause low pressure at high rpm as the pump sucks so much oil out of the crankcase it sucks air, but you checked that.

 

A stuck open pressure relief valve that resets itself when the engine shuts down could be an an issue, but that seems unlikely.

 

Maybe someone else has an idea or two...  in any event do let us know what the solution turns out to be!

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Key West, FL

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Here is

 

Yes - oil pressure gauge and l'os pressure alarme on

When oil pressure below  1 bar, alarme nées

Oil pressure drops quickly at 2000 rpm

Oil pressure remains stable when low or normal

Oil pressure remains low when reducing speed from 2000 

 

No loss of oil single de started.  

Ran 1hour maneuvring in port at 1300 rpm at 2 bars, went To idle after 1 hour at 700 rpm with 1.1 bar oil pressure.

Did  not  risk acceleration. 

 

Thks for assiste

 

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Carbo Verde

 

 

 

 

Le dim., déc. 31, 2017 à 14:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]

a écrit :

 

Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me.  There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic

 

Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm?  

If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm?  

Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly?  

Is it stable, or does it bounce around?

Does it come back quickly when you reduce the RPM, or does it stay low?

 

 

 

Re: Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

Mark Erdos
 

I think Joel was right on with his diagnosis:

 

 

More than likely your problem is the crankshaft bearings and the connecting rod bearings clearances are too large. As the engine warms the expansion of components causes the clearances to increase even more and hence the oil pressure to go down.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

 

 

 

Christian,

 

I am afraid I have no good ideas that match your symptoms!  Since you have both the gauge and alarm reporting low pressure, I have to assume it is real and not a problem with the measurement.

 

Sometimes low oil level can cause low pressure at high rpm as the pump sucks so much oil out of the crankcase it sucks air, but you checked that.

 

A stuck open pressure relief valve that resets itself when the engine shuts down could be an an issue, but that seems unlikely.

 

Maybe someone else has an idea or two...  in any event do let us know what the solution turns out to be!

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Key West, FL

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Here is

 

Yes - oil pressure gauge and l'os pressure alarme on

When oil pressure below  1 bar, alarme nées

Oil pressure drops quickly at 2000 rpm

Oil pressure remains stable when low or normal

Oil pressure remains low when reducing speed from 2000 

 

No loss of oil single de started.  

Ran 1hour maneuvring in port at 1300 rpm at 2 bars, went To idle after 1 hour at 700 rpm with 1.1 bar oil pressure.

Did  not  risk acceleration. 

 

Thks for assiste

 

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Carbo Verde

 

 

 

 

Le dim., déc. 31, 2017 à 14:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]

a écrit :

 

Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me.  There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic

 

Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm?  

If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm?  

Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly?  

Is it stable, or does it bounce around?

Does it come back quickly when you reduce the RPM, or does it stay low?

 

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks Mark
 I appreciate you input
Have a great new year!!
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin'
54 #101


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 11:27 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

 
Courtney,
 
Where do you want to travel back to in the USA? i.e. Martinique has very cheap flights on Norwegian Air but to limited USA locations. Le Marin is a good spot to have any work done and is a safe spot to leave for the boat a while.
 
Consider Port Louis Marina in Grenada for hurricane season. Very safe and very nice facility. Easy access to and from USA.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Martinique
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:47 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)
 
 
Good morning all and and early Happy New Year.  
As we start to plan our sailing for this upcoming year I need a little info.  First I am wondering where in the eastern Caribbean you all have found has easy in and out to the US and is a good and safe place to leave you boat for up to 6 weeks.  At this point we are considering leaving our boat in Trinidad during hurricane season.  In January we will (hopefully) sail from Georgia to Puerto Rico,  then head East and south in February BUT to end up where? That is the question.  Would prefer a local with easy boat access and dependable flights or at least ferries to flights would appreciate all your opinions.
Cheers and everyone have a safe and very Happy New Year!!
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin'
54 #101
 

Re: Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

greatketch@...
 


Christian,

I am afraid I have no good ideas that match your symptoms!  Since you have both the gauge and alarm reporting low pressure, I have to assume it is real and not a problem with the measurement.

Sometimes low oil level can cause low pressure at high rpm as the pump sucks so much oil out of the crankcase it sucks air, but you checked that.

A stuck open pressure relief valve that resets itself when the engine shuts down could be an an issue, but that seems unlikely.

Maybe someone else has an idea or two...  in any event do let us know what the solution turns out to be!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Key West, FL



---In amelyachtowners@..., <calbyy@...> wrote :

Here is

Yes - oil pressure gauge and l'os pressure alarme on
When oil pressure below  1 bar, alarme nées
Oil pressure drops quickly at 2000 rpm
Oil pressure remains stable when low or normal
Oil pressure remains low when reducing speed from 2000 

No loss of oil single de started.  
Ran 1hour maneuvring in port at 1300 rpm at 2 bars, went To idle after 1 hour at 700 rpm with 1.1 bar oil pressure.
Did  not  risk acceleration. 

Thks for assiste

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Carbo Verde


Le dim., déc. 31, 2017 à 14:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> a écrit :
 

Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me.  There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic


Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm?  
If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm?  
Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly?  
Is it stable, or does it bounce around?
Does it come back quickly when you reduce the RPM, or does it stay low?



Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4.154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Here is

Yes - oil pressure gauge and l'os pressure alarme on
When oil pressure below  1 bar, alarme nées
Oil pressure drops quickly at 2000 rpm
Oil pressure remains stable when low or normal
Oil pressure remains low when reducing speed from 2000 

No loss of oil single de started.  
Ran 1hour maneuvring in port at 1300 rpm at 2 bars, went To idle after 1 hour at 700 rpm with 1.1 bar oil pressure.
Did  not  risk acceleration. 

Thks for assiste

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Carbo Verde


Le dim., déc. 31, 2017 à 14:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
a écrit :
 

Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me.  There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic


Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm?  
If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm?  
Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly?  
Is it stable, or does it bounce around?
Does it come back quickly when you reduce the RPM, or does it stay low?



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Mark Erdos
 

Courtney,

 

Where do you want to travel back to in the USA? i.e. Martinique has very cheap flights on Norwegian Air but to limited USA locations. Le Marin is a good spot to have any work done and is a safe spot to leave for the boat a while.

 

Consider Port Louis Marina in Grenada for hurricane season. Very safe and very nice facility. Easy access to and from USA.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:47 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

 

 

Good morning all and and early Happy New Year.  

As we start to plan our sailing for this upcoming year I need a little info.  First I am wondering where in the eastern Caribbean you all have found has easy in and out to the US and is a good and safe place to leave you boat for up to 6 weeks.  At this point we are considering leaving our boat in Trinidad during hurricane season.  In January we will (hopefully) sail from Georgia to Puerto Rico,  then head East and south in February BUT to end up where? That is the question.  Would prefer a local with easy boat access and dependable flights or at least ferries to flights would appreciate all your opinions.

Cheers and everyone have a safe and very Happy New Year!!

Cheers

Courtney

Trippin'

54 #101

 

best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Courtney Gorman
 

Good morning all and and early Happy New Year.  
As we start to plan our sailing for this upcoming year I need a little info.  First I am wondering where in the eastern Caribbean you all have found has easy in and out to the US and is a good and safe place to leave you boat for up to 6 weeks.  At this point we are considering leaving our boat in Trinidad during hurricane season.  In January we will (hopefully) sail from Georgia to Puerto Rico,  then head East and south in February BUT to end up where? That is the question.  Would prefer a local with easy boat access and dependable flights or at least ferries to flights would appreciate all your opinions.
Cheers and everyone have a safe and very Happy New Year!!
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin'
54 #101
 

Re: Perkins M 4.154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

greatketch@...
 

Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me.  There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic

Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm?  
If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm?  
Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly?  
Is it stable, or does it bounce around?
Does it come back quickly when you reduce the RPM, or does it stay low?



Perkins M 4.154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Good  day To you all  amel  sailors
Acter good  run com Canarias To Cabo Verde (165 Nm best day with 25 to 30 kn wind & 3 M swell) tried engine To reef down main, & lost oil pressure when accelerating to 2000 rpm.
All Nice & Smith up To 1600 rpm, but cannot  take  it further.
Decided  that it is toi risky To continue this  way on pour round trip to southern Atlantic, therefore changing course To Martinique To replace ole'  faithful by  brand new engine.
Thinking a bout 60 up perkins.
Recomendations on contacts, supplier, workshops, shipyard in Le Marin or ôter technico Center around  ?
Past experience ?
All welcome 
Fair  wind & boas  entradas
Christian alby - sv  Desirade  VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Cabo Verde

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Weigh carrying capacity of SM

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Alexandre,
Perhaps less well positioned, but an excellent choice nonetheless!
Cheers, Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <uster@...> wrote :

For the story, when I left Florida 3 years ago to go back to the Bahamas, I had 22 cases of red wine, 3 cases of champagne, etc.
Since I didn’t want to be overweight, I only put 150 liter of water in the tank out of the 1000.

One could legitimately argue the weight was not as well positioned as if it was water.

Alexandre




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On Fri, 12/29/17, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Weigh carrying capacity of SM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017, 6:50 PM


 









Kent, I should think you could also trade off, say
1500 pounds of water (use your water maker as needed) and
several hundred pounds of fuel (sail more) and easily get
another ton of cargo whilst staying in the safe weight
range.HNY to you and Captain
Iris, Craig and Katherine


---In amelyachtowners@...,
<karkauai@...> wrote :

Thanks,
Alexandre.  I won't exceed the limits Olivier
recommended.

Kent
RobertsonS/V Kristy SM 243

On Dec 27, 2017, at 16:08, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:

 Also to
add to Olivier’s comment: Helvetia/De Lassee insurance
contrat says that if the boat is overload they will void the
insurance…



Sincerely, Alexandre

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Weigh carrying capacity of SM

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

For the story, when I left Florida 3 years ago to go back to the Bahamas, I had 22 cases of red wine, 3 cases of champagne, etc.
Since I didn’t want to be overweight, I only put 150 liter of water in the tank out of the 1000.

One could legitimately argue the weight was not as well positioned as if it was water.

Alexandre




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On Fri, 12/29/17, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Weigh carrying capacity of SM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, December 29, 2017, 6:50 PM


 









Kent, I should think you could also trade off, say
1500 pounds of water (use your water maker as needed) and
several hundred pounds of fuel (sail more) and easily get
another ton of cargo whilst staying in the safe weight
range.HNY to you and Captain
Iris, Craig and Katherine


---In amelyachtowners@...,
<karkauai@...> wrote :

Thanks,
Alexandre.  I won't exceed the limits Olivier
recommended.

Kent
RobertsonS/V Kristy SM 243

On Dec 27, 2017, at 16:08, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:

 Also to
add to Olivier’s comment: Helvetia/De Lassee insurance
contrat says that if the boat is overload they will void the
insurance…



Sincerely, Alexandre

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Weigh carrying capacity of SM

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Kent, I should think you could also trade off, say 1500 pounds of water (use your water maker as needed) and several hundred pounds of fuel (sail more) and easily get another ton of cargo whilst staying in the safe weight range.
HNY to you and Captain Iris,
 Craig and Katherine


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Thanks, Alexandre.  I won't exceed the limits Olivier recommended.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy SM 243

On Dec 27, 2017, at 16:08, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Also to add to Olivier’s comment: Helvetia/De Lassee insurance contrat says that if the boat is overload they will void the insurance…

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: SSB Grounding/Earthing

danielmfrey63@...
 

Hi Alan

Excellent, thank you very much.

Also for the upload of the diagrams.

Best - Daniel

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawings and/or Schematic of Sharki fuel tank

spritoaffine
 

Hi Graham

We own Sharki 148 which is currently ‘asleep for the winter’ in Greece. I would be interested in any official information you have on the Sharki if you would add me to your mailing list

Thanks in anticipation

David Worthington

 

davidworthingtonhome@...

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of grahamjohnston42@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 10:14:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawings and/or Schematic of Sharki fuel tank
 
 

Hi Cameron.
I do not have a drawing of the tank but I have a great deal of other useful info on the Sharki.
If you would like to copies let me know by email.

Graham Sharki 181

Re: Drawings and/or Schematic of Sharki fuel tank

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Hi Cameron.
I do not have a drawing of the tank but I have a great deal of other useful info on the Sharki.
If you would like to copies let me know by email.

Graham Sharki 181

boom and mizzen bungee ropes replacement

ulrich michael dangelmeyer <udangelmeyer@...>
 

Hello and good morning to all in the Group, I´m new in the group and happy to be with you on seven seas.

I appreciate your advise and recommendation on following issue:

We own a 9 years young wonderful Amel 54 and get problems furling out the main and mizzen sail. From an other Amel owner we were advised to exchange the bungee ropes inside the booms, because they are too sloopy and unable to run as topping lift and to position the boom up to the right angle. Lifted manually everything will run properly.
If not under sails, there is the practical recommendation, to release both sheets to untighten the bungees inside, this will keep lifetime much longer. But no advice im the manual, mhm.

So we ordered from Amel 2 bungees as original spare parts. so far so fine. To replace the mizzen bungee, this is not a great deal: open the forward shakkle and exchange the lines afterwards.
But in the main boom?? There is no service hole in front, because there is the out hole motor under fixed? My thought: must this motor first to be detached and remounted to open the boom or is there an other way to proceed?

This topic is not an issue in the owner manual and a service / repair manual for Amel boats until now is not known by me. Service advise by the yard I also didm´t received, only the spare parts as well.

Any recommendations and advise are very appreciated Thanks in advance.

Best Regards and wishes

Ulrich Michael
"Soleil Bleu"

To all of you a very happy New year 2018, fair winds and always two fingers high of Port in the bilge.

+++endofmessage+++


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Trouble Shooting an older TechPro Battery Charger.

Alan Leslie
 

Just my 2 cents worth.....
In the Amel manual on my boat it tells us to first turn on the 100A charger then after it has stabilised turn on the smaller charger (in our case 30A)...
I don't see what the problem would be running two chargers at the same time...we do that with our solar panels and wind generator..
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Trouble Shooting an older TechPro Battery Charger.

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Bill;
 
I cannot offer any useful hints on your actual issue as I am unfamiliar with your unit. However, when Olivier was surveying our 54 he mentioned that the two chargers should not be run simultaneously. I do not know if this has anything to do with your issue, but thought a good side note to keep in mind.
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Trouble Shooting an older TechPro Battery Charger.

 

Our battery charging system consists of a shiny new Victron Multiplus 24/3000/70 which works a treat, and a Techpro 50Amp charger which was part of the original install at the factory in 1996 and has done yeoman duty for 21 years.  We use both of them when running the genset to bulk charge the house batteries with 100+ amps.


Unfortunately the Techpro has stopped outputting charging current.


So far I have confirmed that there is both 220VAC and 24VDC at the circuit boards inside the charger. The battery charge status lights on the front panel are not lit. No obvious mechanical problems.  I haven't pulled the unit out yet, but there are no obvious internal circuit breakers or fuses.


Anybody have any experience/suggestions/hints on what to try next on one of these vintage units?


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Key West, FL