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Re: Liferaft, Locker or Cradle?

joseph mc donnell
 

Hi All
Thanks guys for your quick replies. I probably should have told you
all that the liferaft is a 10 man cannister (big bugger),which came of
our last cruiser (a bendy toy). I can see that a lot of thought has
gone into this problem in the past. Im in agreement with a lot of
suggestions. I came to the same solution as Bill and raised the
canister to just under the lip (beer bottle crates cut to size) . We
all know about the benifits of a little bit of fear on your strength.
The practiced timed launch suggested by Robin sounds like a good idea,
especially for inexperienced crew. I think that hoisting out the
liferaft using the boom should be forgotten about. Its a lot of weight
that can take off across the cockpit, in a rough sea, if attached to
the boom. I do'nt think that Eric spot on the rail would be suitable
for our liferaft considering the weight. This I belive leaves two
options either on the deck or beside the aft steps outside the rail.
This leads to the next question, is reinforcement required to the deck.
Thanks again, Its good to have answers for club members.
Yours Joe McDonnell


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2 topics: Algae-X and the SM aft cabin vanity

eric freedman
 

John,
I could not find your vanity photos.
would you please direct me to them.
thanks
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john martin
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2 topics: Algae-X and the SM aft cabin vanity

I'd like to thank the gentleman on this net who wrote a few years ago about
installing an Algae-X fuel filter in his SM to eliminate the constant black
streak problem from the engine exhaust. I bought one a year ago and have
not had to clean the side of the boat since. I don't know how it works, but

you just install it and forget about it, absolutely no maintenance. The
best $170 I ever spent !

I also want to offer a belated response to emails some time ago about the
aft cabin vanity. We never used the vanity and it occupies a lot of volume
so we decided to make a cabinet out of it. See photos on this site in our
folder "Moon Dog". The little seat removes very easily (and can be
reinstalled easily as well). We put one shelf inside, made of 16" deep
household variety plastic coated wire shelving) that rests on the conduit
ridge molded into the hull and is screwed to the existing bulkheads. The
cabinet front is just a pices of varnished mahogany plywood, with 2 doors
similar in style to the Amel doors (although we need to stain the edging
dark to match the rest of the boat). We left the carpet in and the cabinet
front is screwed in on each side through the existing bulkheads. All our
"improvements" can be easily removed if needed. My wife loves it as it is a

large cabinet that can hold bulky items such as linens, blankets, and many,
many pairs of shoes as well.

We also installed some very simple "book bars" in the cabin "cubbyholes".
We got tired of all the books dumping out whenever we had a somewhat rolly
passage ! See photos on this site in our folder.

John Martin
Moon Dog SM #248

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Judy and I are cruising and need to be able to carry extra fuel in
Jerry Cans. We found a 18.9 liter Jerry Can that we are able to fit
10 into the "Liferaft Locker." We placed the liferaft into the port
lazerette to give us storage for the 10 Jerry Cans and because we also
struggled with the removal of the liferaft from its locker.

Here is an alternate idea for you. Had we not needed the storage
space for the diesel, we were considering storing some seldom used
items at the bottom of the liferaft locker raising the level of the
liferaft. I believe if it were just under the hatch, all of your
concerns would be satisfied.

Best,

Bill & Judy Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
wrote:

After we purchased our Santorin and before we made a trans-atlantic
crossing we meticulously checked out all our safety gear. The
liferaft, in a valise, was stowed in the "liferaft locker" midships on
the port side. We made a dummy run to "launch" it. We used the
eye under the mast to rig a a block and tackle to lift the liferaft
(we had struggled to lift it manually through the opening.) Rigging
the tackle was very quick but the problem was that the valise would
not go through the opening. After about 15 minutes we managed to
work it through. Balancing the conditions in which it might be used
v the adrenalin rush from the emergency we decided to repace he valise
(which was 10 years old but still certificated.) with a canister which
is stowed in a quick release mount outside the rails on the port side
aft. The only problems we have had with this arrangement is that it
has at times caught on posts, protrusions from docks and the like. We
have a fender on the
outboard side of the liferaft and as such we have never suffered
anything worthy of entering in the log!

The message has to be try a timed launch with a crew who have had
nothing other than a normal safety briefing and see if the result is
acceptable to you.

Regards,

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004, Belouga.

joemac4sail <joemac4sail@...> wrote:

The question of where the liferaft should be positioned on our club
owned Santorin has arisen. It has been suggested that it would be
better if the liferaft was mounted on the rail or deck. Personally I'm
of the opinion that if it ain't broken don't fix it and for the last
thing I would want to abandon, to get into a liferaft, is an Amel. But
the suggestion has come from a respected club member with vast sea
experience,and as it is a club boat with various levels of
experience,this suggestion has to be evaluated. As we are new to the
Amel Family (3 years now and enjoying it thoroughly), I hope that the
vast experience out there will come to my aid. The Club is called The
East Coast Garda Sailing Club based in Dun Laoire, Ireland. We are
basically a group of people with an interest in sailing who got
together to do a bit of cruising during the summer and day sailing
during the winter on the Santorin "Khamsin B" We also are involved
racing on our other boat. The purchase of Khamsin as you can immagine
has extended out our horisons big time, but with that comes the safety
factor.
Looking forward to reading your suggestions.
Joe McDonnell






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

After we purchased our Santorin and before we made a trans-atlantic crossing we meticulously checked out all our safety gear. The liferaft, in a valise, was stowed in the "liferaft locker" midships on the port side. We made a dummy run to "launch" it. We used the eye under the mast to rig a a block and tackle to lift the liferaft (we had struggled to lift it manually through the opening.) Rigging the tackle was very quick but the problem was that the valise would not go through the opening. After about 15 minutes we managed to work it through. Balancing the conditions in which it might be used v the adrenalin rush from the emergency we decided to repace he valise (which was 10 years old but still certificated.) with a canister which is stowed in a quick release mount outside the rails on the port side aft. The only problems we have had with this arrangement is that it has at times caught on posts, protrusions from docks and the like. We have a fender on the
outboard side of the liferaft and as such we have never suffered anything worthy of entering in the log!

The message has to be try a timed launch with a crew who have had nothing other than a normal safety briefing and see if the result is acceptable to you.

Regards,

Robin Cooter,
Santorin 004, Belouga.

joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie> wrote:

The question of where the liferaft should be positioned on our club
owned Santorin has arisen. It has been suggested that it would be
better if the liferaft was mounted on the rail or deck. Personally I'm
of the opinion that if it ain't broken don't fix it and for the last
thing I would want to abandon, to get into a liferaft, is an Amel. But
the suggestion has come from a respected club member with vast sea
experience,and as it is a club boat with various levels of
experience,this suggestion has to be evaluated. As we are new to the
Amel Family (3 years now and enjoying it thoroughly), I hope that the
vast experience out there will come to my aid. The Club is called The
East Coast Garda Sailing Club based in Dun Laoire, Ireland. We are
basically a group of people with an interest in sailing who got
together to do a bit of cruising during the summer and day sailing
during the winter on the Santorin "Khamsin B" We also are involved
racing on our other boat. The purchase of Khamsin as you can immagine
has extended out our horisons big time, but with that comes the safety
factor.
Looking forward to reading your suggestions.
Joe McDonnell






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?

eric freedman
 

I think the liferaft is in a good spot.

I believe if it is mounted on the rail or the deck, it will suffer more
abuse. Many life rafts are not made to be hung off a rail.



More importantly, the weight. On my last boat, I had a Jordan series drogue
in an aft locker. It took two of us to push and kick the 100-pound drogue
into the locker. When I was in 50-70 plus knots and needed it, I pulled it
out with one hand.

You would be very surprised how strong you get in a disaster.



Incidentally, it worked fantastically and I had one made for Kimberlite and
keep it in the port locker. I believe it is the best drag device on the
market.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM KLEIN
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:03 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?



In my opinion an liferaft in a locker may be useless in an emergency
situation. To lift a raft out of a locker may be very difficult in storm
conditions. I know mine was hard to remove from the lazerette when I was at
a dock! When I replace mine it would be with a deck mounted cannister . --
Bill Klein - SV Popeye
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Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:26 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?

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The question of where the liferaft should be positioned on our club
owned Santorin has arisen. It has been suggested that it would be
better if the liferaft was mounted on the rail or deck. Personally I'm
of the opinion that if it ain't broken don't fix it and for the last
thing I would want to abandon, to get into a liferaft, is an Amel. But
the suggestion has come from a respected club member with vast sea
experience,and as it is a club boat with various levels of
experience,this suggestion has to be evaluated. As we are new to the
Amel Family (3 years now and enjoying it thoroughly), I hope that the
vast experience out there will come to my aid. The Club is called The
East Coast Garda Sailing Club based in Dun Laoire, Ireland. We are
basically a group of people with an interest in sailing who got
together to do a bit of cruising during the summer and day sailing
during the winter on the Santorin "Khamsin B" We also are involved
racing on our other boat. The purchase of Khamsin as you can immagine
has extended out our horisons big time, but with that comes the safety
factor.
Looking forward to reading your suggestions.
Joe McDonnell


prop upgrade

amel46met
 

To the group: I am Tom Deasy, owner of the 1983 Amel Maramu
"Aphrodite" located in Santa Cruz, California. I am thinking of
upgrading from a fixed to a feathering/folding prop, possibly a
"Max-Prop". My concern is that I have a shaft alternator which I would
like to continue to use and I assume this may limit my choice of
props. Any information or opinions on the many choices of props now
available would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Tom & Mary Ellen


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?

WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
 

In my opinion an liferaft in a locker may be useless in an emergency situation. To lift a raft out of a locker may be very difficult in storm conditions. I know mine was hard to remove from the lazerette when I was at a dock! When I replace mine it would be with a deck mounted cannister . -- Bill Klein - SV Popeye
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To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?


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The question of where the liferaft should be positioned on our club
owned Santorin has arisen. It has been suggested that it would be
better if the liferaft was mounted on the rail or deck. Personally I'm
of the opinion that if it ain't broken don't fix it and for the last
thing I would want to abandon, to get into a liferaft, is an Amel. But
the suggestion has come from a respected club member with vast sea
experience,and as it is a club boat with various levels of
experience,this suggestion has to be evaluated. As we are new to the
Amel Family (3 years now and enjoying it thoroughly), I hope that the
vast experience out there will come to my aid. The Club is called The
East Coast Garda Sailing Club based in Dun Laoire, Ireland. We are
basically a group of people with an interest in sailing who got
together to do a bit of cruising during the summer and day sailing
during the winter on the Santorin "Khamsin B" We also are involved
racing on our other boat. The purchase of Khamsin as you can immagine
has extended out our horisons big time, but with that comes the safety
factor.
Looking forward to reading your suggestions.
Joe McDonnell


Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?

joseph mc donnell
 

The question of where the liferaft should be positioned on our club
owned Santorin has arisen. It has been suggested that it would be
better if the liferaft was mounted on the rail or deck. Personally I'm
of the opinion that if it ain't broken don't fix it and for the last
thing I would want to abandon, to get into a liferaft, is an Amel. But
the suggestion has come from a respected club member with vast sea
experience,and as it is a club boat with various levels of
experience,this suggestion has to be evaluated. As we are new to the
Amel Family (3 years now and enjoying it thoroughly), I hope that the
vast experience out there will come to my aid. The Club is called The
East Coast Garda Sailing Club based in Dun Laoire, Ireland. We are
basically a group of people with an interest in sailing who got
together to do a bit of cruising during the summer and day sailing
during the winter on the Santorin "Khamsin B" We also are involved
racing on our other boat. The purchase of Khamsin as you can immagine
has extended out our horisons big time, but with that comes the safety
factor.
Looking forward to reading your suggestions.
Joe McDonnell


Battery charging

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Ivar,
I suspect that the problem is the result of the batteries being fully
discharged during the winter and thus killed off.
Delphi Freedom batteries should be charged up to 29.6 volts according
to the specifications given in Reyas instructions for their Dolphin 2
charger which was introduced about 2003.This model has a switch to
change the charge/float rates for the various sorts of batteries.
I have the previous model which does not have this switch. It charges
up to 28.8volts. My batteries are still pretty good after seven years
although I think some are on their last legs as I had to change
one of them two years ago. One of the claimed advantages of calcium-
lead batteries like Delphi is apparently that they have a much lower
self discharge rate than other types.
I turn every thing off when I am leaving the boat for the winter and
check on the Emeter to see that I have succeeded
as the battery on my car was ruined as the memory of the radio and the
pretend alarm flattened it.
The Reya Agents in Greece are Alex Marine, 5 Leochous Street, Piraeus,
185-31. I got the new battery in Kos Marina,I think from C. Mylonas,
ph 2242024768. The replacement was a Delphi truck battery which is
apparently the same as the marine except that the terminals are not in
the same position.


Battery charging

ivarmylde <mylde@...>
 

I hve problems with my batteries. I hve now bought new Delphi batteries
each year. I suspect the problem is charging. my 24volt/50amp charger
deliver max 28,5 amp on my meter and in that way I believ my batteries
will never be fully charged, I left the batteries connected this
winther for 5 months and asked the yard in Greece to charge every month
which I believe they did. Cud not disconnect due work done while I was
away. Before on my other boats I had my batteries for 6/8 years without
problems. The instuction book of the charger is in French and bit
difficult to understand. Can anybody help.
Rgds Ivar Mylde
SM#53 Silfrania


Battery charging

ivarmylde <mylde@...>
 

I hve problems with my Delphi batteries, hve bought new last year in
Italy 115 ah. Hve to charge after max 25AH when batteries without load
is at 24 volt. I believe the charger is not charging high enough. My
24volt/50ah charger charge at max 28,5 amp and batteries will not be
fully charged. The instruction book for the charger in French and
difficult to understand. Now in Preveza, Greece . On my previous boats
the batteries normally lasted for 6/8 years without problems.
Rgds Ivar Mylde
SM#53


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator water maker

eric freedman
 

The pickle solution eroded the end caps of my watermaker and killed the
membranes. Just stick to fresh water with new pre filters before storing.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John and Anne on Bali
Hai
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:04 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator water maker



Hello Giovanni,
If you enter "watermaker pickling" in the search box you will find a
lot of advice. However we have followed Olivier Beaute's advice and did
nothing more than flush it well with fresh water before leaving it
alone for six months every winter. So far it has worked well for the
past seven seasons. However if you do decide to pickle make sure that
you stick to the recommended concentrations as I believe that too much
chemical will severely damage the membrane.

Good luck, Anne and John, SM319 Bali Hai


Re: Dessalator water maker

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hello John,
well, good news: only fresh water!
I had some duobt about. You know, sailing around and along the dingy
dock there are many opinions. A technician sailor told me about the
fresh water, but your and Olivier experience are for sure the best.
Thanks a lot and all the best
Fair winds
Giovanni
SM2K " EUTIKIA" n 428

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai"
<annejohn@...> wrote:

Hello Giovanni,
If you enter "watermaker pickling" in the search box you will find a
lot of advice. However we have followed Olivier Beaute's advice and
did
nothing more than flush it well with fresh water before leaving it
alone for six months every winter. So far it has worked well for the
past seven seasons. However if you do decide to pickle make sure that
you stick to the recommended concentrations as I believe that too
much
chemical will severely damage the membrane.

Good luck, Anne and John, SM319 Bali Hai


Dessalator water maker

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Giovanni,
If you enter "watermaker pickling" in the search box you will find a
lot of advice. However we have followed Olivier Beaute's advice and did
nothing more than flush it well with fresh water before leaving it
alone for six months every winter. So far it has worked well for the
past seven seasons. However if you do decide to pickle make sure that
you stick to the recommended concentrations as I believe that too much
chemical will severely damage the membrane.

Good luck, Anne and John, SM319 Bali Hai


Amel for sale

Mike Johnson
 

Dear Tony,



Sorry to hear that you are having to sell WORLD CITIZEN.



Our plans are to purchase a SM next year for our retirement adventure into
the sunset. We would be interested in receiving the details of WORLD
CITIZEN to help us determine whether to make the journey to view. We
currently live and sail in South East Asia so it is not a short journey to
USA for us. Final location though is not an issue for us as our retirement
starting point is all part of the adventure.



We are both very familiar with the SM's standard equipment etc so we are
more interested in the additional fitting out and variance from the standard
fit. Photo's would be helpful and of course an indication of price.



Best wishes



Mike & Peta



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: 12 April 2008 02:34
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM#266 For Sale



It is with a sad heart that we offer WORLD CITIZEN seriously for
sale. Health and family issues have forced a halt to our cruising.
We would like to sell WORLD CITIZEN to a person(s) who will love her
and treat her as we have.
WORLD CITIZEN, Amel Super Maramu 2000 Millennium. Hull number 266
built late 1999. She has all the bells and whistles you would expect
and a few added extras. Huge spare parts inventory, entire tool crib
to go with the sale (including many Amel and engine "special tools").
She is located in Wilmington, NC at the present time, and can be
easily shown. If you are from Europe, we can make a travel
arrangement so you can see her at little cost to you. Delivery to
Europe is a possibility.
I don't want to use this site in an inappropriate manner, so if you
have an interest email me and I will send you all the data you want.
Email; agav8ter@yahoo.com <mailto:agav8ter%40yahoo.com> (Please put Amel
for sale on the subject
line, so your message does not get deleted.)
Thank you,
Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266


Re: SM#266 For Sale

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Tony,

What a shame you have to sell World Citizen after all of the care you
have provided her. Who ever gets her will certainly appreciate the
love and care that you and Heidi gave her.

FYI yahoo strips the email address, you should have done something
like agav8ter "at" yahoo.com (replace the "at" with @).

Best,

Bill & Judy Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
transiting the Panama Canal to the Pacific 4/12/08

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...> wrote:

It is with a sad heart that we offer WORLD CITIZEN seriously for
sale. Health and family issues have forced a halt to our cruising.
We would like to sell WORLD CITIZEN to a person(s) who will love her
and treat her as we have.
WORLD CITIZEN, Amel Super Maramu 2000 Millennium. Hull number 266
built late 1999. She has all the bells and whistles you would expect
and a few added extras. Huge spare parts inventory, entire tool crib
to go with the sale (including many Amel and engine "special tools").
She is located in Wilmington, NC at the present time, and can be
easily shown. If you are from Europe, we can make a travel
arrangement so you can see her at little cost to you. Delivery to
Europe is a possibility.
I don't want to use this site in an inappropriate manner, so if you
have an interest email me and I will send you all the data you want.
Email; agav8ter@... (Please put Amel for sale on the subject
line, so your message does not get deleted.)
Thank you,
Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266


SM#266 For Sale

Ag Av8ter
 

It is with a sad heart that we offer WORLD CITIZEN seriously for
sale. Health and family issues have forced a halt to our cruising.
We would like to sell WORLD CITIZEN to a person(s) who will love her
and treat her as we have.
WORLD CITIZEN, Amel Super Maramu 2000 Millennium. Hull number 266
built late 1999. She has all the bells and whistles you would expect
and a few added extras. Huge spare parts inventory, entire tool crib
to go with the sale (including many Amel and engine "special tools").
She is located in Wilmington, NC at the present time, and can be
easily shown. If you are from Europe, we can make a travel
arrangement so you can see her at little cost to you. Delivery to
Europe is a possibility.
I don't want to use this site in an inappropriate manner, so if you
have an interest email me and I will send you all the data you want.
Email; agav8ter@yahoo.com (Please put Amel for sale on the subject
line, so your message does not get deleted.)
Thank you,
Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266


dessalator

Giovanni TESTA
 

hi to all,
I have a Dissalator HR 4 and I have to leave my SM2K for 5
monthes ,during the hurrican season, on the hard in Venezuela, Puerto
La Cruz. Wich the best treatment I can do to preserve its membranes ?
what I haven't to do ? My Dissalator has 100 hrs only.
Please any suggestions will be particularly appreciated.
Thanks to all,
Giovanni TESTA
s/v "EUTIKIA" SM2K n 428


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bad Salt Water Manifold

eric freedman
 

Patrick,

The manifold does have just straight fittings no hose barbs. It is easy to
remove. You must also remove the first pre filter for the 220-volt
watermaker to access the mounting screws.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrick.naegels
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:06 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bad Salt Water Manifold



If I remember well, price must be around 350 euros. But manifold
comes with tap and neck, ready to install.

Olivier Beauté said there is no difficulties to disconnect existing
hoses, because there are no notches on pipes.

We'll see ...

Patrick

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--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Patrick,

I have a feeling that the bonding strap that is connected to the
keel bolt
in the bilge is rotten and no longer connected.

I will check it this week. I have already made plans to replace
the strap
as another member has already done. I also plan to connect the
bonding wire
on the A/C pump to the manifold directly.

I was just wondering -what was the cost of the manifold from Amel?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
patrick.naegels
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bad Salt Water Manifold



Hi Eric,

we have the same, but our salt-water manifold is still working. We
just see that black paint is rotted with small white points, and
water drops some time at main connection.

It's like that for 3 years, I really wonder why. As you I tough to
electrolysis effect, but this metal part is connected to earth wire.

So, for 3 years, we have on board a new manifold bought by Amel,
just
in case ...

But I decide to replace this part before our new blue water
crossing.

Patrick - Caramel - SM2000 # 329

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--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "eric freedman"
<kimberlite@> wrote:

Has anyone had problems with the salt-water manifold rotting out?
This is the manifold that connects to the electric head pumps,
the
watermaker, the anchor wash, and the A/c pump via the sea
strainer.

Last week I noticed a small drip from the manifold. I touched it
and
my finger went right through the A/C tap on the manifold. When I
removed the manifold, the A/C tap looked like Swiss cheese. I had
to
saw off the tap and put a hose and clamps over it to temporarily
use
the manifold. When I tried to put the manifold back, it snapped
off.
It appears that the factory soldered a BRASS pipe nipple to the
end
of
the copper manifold.
This caused electrolysis and the manifold to fail at the junction
where it screws into the ball valve. I am having a new manifold
made
out of stainless in St Martin. Has anyone else seen such a
problem?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite









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Re: Bad Salt Water Manifold

patrick.naegels <patrick.naegels@...>
 

If I remember well, price must be around 350 euros. But manifold
comes with tap and neck, ready to install.

Olivier Beauté said there is no difficulties to disconnect existing
hoses, because there are no notches on pipes.

We'll see ...

Patrick


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--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Patrick,

I have a feeling that the bonding strap that is connected to the
keel bolt
in the bilge is rotten and no longer connected.

I will check it this week. I have already made plans to replace
the strap
as another member has already done. I also plan to connect the
bonding wire
on the A/C pump to the manifold directly.

I was just wondering -what was the cost of the manifold from Amel?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
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patrick.naegels
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bad Salt Water Manifold



Hi Eric,

we have the same, but our salt-water manifold is still working. We
just see that black paint is rotted with small white points, and
water drops some time at main connection.

It's like that for 3 years, I really wonder why. As you I tough to
electrolysis effect, but this metal part is connected to earth wire.

So, for 3 years, we have on board a new manifold bought by Amel,
just
in case ...

But I decide to replace this part before our new blue water
crossing.

Patrick - Caramel - SM2000 # 329

°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "eric freedman"
<kimberlite@> wrote:

Has anyone had problems with the salt-water manifold rotting out?
This is the manifold that connects to the electric head pumps,
the
watermaker, the anchor wash, and the A/c pump via the sea
strainer.

Last week I noticed a small drip from the manifold. I touched it
and
my finger went right through the A/C tap on the manifold. When I
removed the manifold, the A/C tap looked like Swiss cheese. I had
to
saw off the tap and put a hose and clamps over it to temporarily
use
the manifold. When I tried to put the manifold back, it snapped
off.
It appears that the factory soldered a BRASS pipe nipple to the
end
of
the copper manifold.
This caused electrolysis and the manifold to fail at the junction
where it screws into the ball valve. I am having a new manifold
made
out of stainless in St Martin. Has anyone else seen such a
problem?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite




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