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Re: UPDATE *** Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

Bob Hodgins <bobh@...>
 

Gallivant, 54 #31 with Bob and Mary Lu are currently on the dock in Le Marin. We will be leaving on either 1/18 or 1/19. We hope to meet more of the wonderful Amelians before departing.

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Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

mfmcgovern@...
 

James,

If the 2001 Amel SM you are looking at is located in the Netherlands and listed by Devalk Brokerage, I have been on that boat and had it "partially" surveyed by Olivier Beaute last year.  If you don't know who Olivier Beaute is, search this forum.  He is widely regarded as the most knowledgeable and experienced surveyor of Amels in the world.  I say it was "partially" surveyed because Olivier found so many issues during the first day of the survey that showed a pattern of complete neglect that my wife and I decided not bother to paying to launch the boat for a sea trial on the second day.  We had travelled to see her from the USA and paid for Olivier Beaute to come from France to complete the survey.  Despite my pleading with the broker to disclose ALL known issues to me AFTER I sent the deposit and booked the flights and the survey and after assuring the broker that I was coming over to see the boat no matter what they told me, it quickly became clear when we arrived and saw the boat that many obvious defects were not disclosed.  Needless to say, I was not pleased.  However, despite this, I did share with the brokerage the list of issues that Olivier found in the hopes that they would either be addressed or at least disclosed to future potential buyers.  None of the issues were "catastrophic" in nature but there were just so many that it showed this boat has NOT been well cared for the past several years.  Feel free to contact me offline at mfmcgovern @ gmail dot com for more information.  I will happily share the list with you as well assuming that we are talking about the same boat.  Hopefully they will have fixed some of these.

I don't want this post to come off as "sour grapes".  And I am certainly NOT trying to torpedo a deal or screw with someone who is trying to sell their boat.  I am just trying to help a fellow lover of Amels to learn from my (bad) experience.  This experience was a very valuable (albeit pricey) lesson for us but was not completely without some positives.  It solidified that we really wanted an Amel SM.  We learned a ton about the Amel SM and it's systems and what to look for in the 1.5 days that we spent with Olivier.  He is an outstanding teacher!  That education was priceless and really helped us when we finally did find our Amel SM (which we also had Olivier Beaute survey!).  Good luck and feel free to contact me with any questions.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor locker floor rotten

James
 

Hi Jean-Pierre

Many thanks for reaching out. I have watched all the videos of Ken’s Acquarius. It’s an excellent tour of their SM. 

We have a Tayana 37 which we’ve cruised for several years, but really looking forward to a bigger boat and subsequent family planning! (Getting married in July!)

I think the repair on the locker should be fairly easy.. an opportunity to perhaps better use the space and further stiffen the bow section. 

Any information on hull #311 would be greatly appreciated. I’m not sure if that’s frowned on or not, but I’ll throw it out there anyway and see!

Many thanks again 

James 



On 4 Jan 2018, at 18:33, Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi James,  


Welcome.  As your broker suspects, the floor is a lattice arrangement and may have rotted over the years.  I lower the anchor/chain and wash the area twice a year.  I let it dry if possible before bringing the chain/anchor in..

One great video giving a detailed tour of an SM2K was produced by Aquarius.  Only 30 minutes but thoroughly presented,  it would flatten your learning curve considerably.

“Aquarius Sailing around the world” or something like that.

VVG tour.

Jean-Pierre
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Panama


On 4 Jan 2018, at 10:16, jamestim@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi everyone..


Lovely group you've got here with an amazing amount of good information to hand. We hope to contribute in coming years as we cruise. 


I am looking at a 2001 SM currently for sale in Europe. We plan on long distance indefinite cruising with a family. The boat, for some reason has had it's anchor locker floor cut away, the agent suspects it was rotten.


Has anyone experienced this same issue? Just seems a bit strange as I've not heard this before on a SM.


Many thanks in advance


James 


SM buyer!




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor locker floor rotten

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Hi James,  

Welcome.  As your broker suspects, the floor is a lattice arrangement and may have rotted over the years.  I lower the anchor/chain and wash the area twice a year.  I let it dry if possible before bringing the chain/anchor in..

One great video giving a detailed tour of an SM2K was produced by Aquarius.  Only 30 minutes but thoroughly presented,  it would flatten your learning curve considerably.

“Aquarius Sailing around the world” or something like that.

VVG tour.

Jean-Pierre
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Panama


On 4 Jan 2018, at 10:16, jamestim@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi everyone..


Lovely group you've got here with an amazing amount of good information to hand. We hope to contribute in coming years as we cruise. 


I am looking at a 2001 SM currently for sale in Europe. We plan on long distance indefinite cruising with a family. The boat, for some reason has had it's anchor locker floor cut away, the agent suspects it was rotten.


Has anyone experienced this same issue? Just seems a bit strange as I've not heard this before on a SM.


Many thanks in advance


James 


SM buyer!




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] VAT in Martinique

John Clark
 

Bill you may be right.  At the time my boat registration was still being processed so it was considered a French vessel.  Doug Rapier handled the export as well as the VAT exemption.

On Jan 4, 2018 9:21 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

As I remember my last trip to Martinique, at least some, maybe all, of the venders removed VAT when I gave them a copy of my US documentation. I remember specifically this happened when I bought a new dinghy at Caribe?.

I asked Gaetan (Martinique Rigger) about this. He says, "Yes it's correct, all the Boats from USA get the VAT out of the final quotation." Maybe some vendors are allowed/licensed to do this without you purchasing a permit.

I would love to hear from one of you that's there now.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] solar Arch

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Marcel;
 
Can you please share the contact information of the place that you purchased your Arch and the outfit that installed it for you? Where you happy with the installation and the performance? Can you also please share how much it cost to fabricate and install?
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 2:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] solar Arch

 

Hi everyone

This is my solar Arch on Amel 54 171 with 440w solar panel an victron
mmpt regulation

Kind regards

Marcel Krauth

Ganesha 54 nr 171 in Preveza Greece at the moment


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

I agree 100% with your recommendations. In fact, I will not recommend any other brokers, or any other surveyor.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970




On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:25 AM, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

As a recent SM buyer (July 2017) here's my recommendations on who to contact when looking for an SM:



In Europe:  Michael Charpentier http://www.yachtworld.com/mcyb/mcyb_0.html

In Caribbean:  Caraibe Yachts JP Bahuaud/Stephanie Dupland http://www.caraibe-yachts.com/fr/broker-detail.php?id=3  

JP works out of Guadeloupe and Stephanie Dupland is in Martinique in Le Marin literally next door to the Amel Offices.  I worked mainly with Stephanie Dupland on my purchase and it was an absolute pleasure.  She even helped me AFTER the sale was closed getting the boat ready to bring back to the USA.  Not something you generally hear about working with a boat broker!

Good luck in your search!  And last, use Olivier Beaute as your surveyor:  http://atlanticyachtsurvey.com/  He's absolutely fantastic.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

 




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Re: solar Arch

Arno Luijten
 

That looks very nice.
What is the reason of the rectangular hooks on the inside of the flat strips?
Any idea on the load bearing capacity of the davits?

Do you have drawings/measurements available of this design?

Thanks in advance,

Arno


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

mfmcgovern@...
 

As a recent SM buyer (July 2017) here's my recommendations on who to contact when looking for an SM:


In Europe:  Michael Charpentier http://www.yachtworld.com/mcyb/mcyb_0.html

In Caribbean:  Caraibe Yachts JP Bahuaud/Stephanie Dupland http://www.caraibe-yachts.com/fr/broker-detail.php?id=3  

JP works out of Guadeloupe and Stephanie Dupland is in Martinique in Le Marin literally next door to the Amel Offices.  I worked mainly with Stephanie Dupland on my purchase and it was an absolute pleasure.  She even helped me AFTER the sale was closed getting the boat ready to bring back to the USA.  Not something you generally hear about working with a boat broker!

Good luck in your search!  And last, use Olivier Beaute as your surveyor:  http://atlanticyachtsurvey.com/  He's absolutely fantastic.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hatch Gaskets for SM

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill!

Kent
S/V Kristy


Re: Bow locker and hawse pipe deterioration

James
 


This is what I see (picture) on a SM I'm interested in buying.. Doesn't look too difficult to repair, but any pictures you guys may have would be greatly appreciated..

James 

SM buyer


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor locker floor rotten

James
 

Ah, thats a great help! Thanks!



James 

On 4 Jan 2018, at 16:22, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello James, 
I think it was a recent topic under the name: Bow locker and hawse pipe deterioration

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/messages?query=locker%20floor

Sincerely Alexandre

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On Thu, 1/4/18, jamestim@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor locker floor rotten
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018, 9:16 AM


 









Hi everyone..
Lovely group you've got
here with an amazing amount of good information to hand. We
hope to contribute in coming years as we
cruise. 
I am looking at a 2001 SM
currently for sale in Europe. We plan on long distance
indefinite cruising with a family. The boat, for some reason
has had it's anchor locker floor cut away, the agent
suspects it was rotten.
Has anyone experienced this
same issue? Just seems a bit strange as I've not heard
this before on a SM.
Many thanks in
advance
James 
SM buyer!




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor locker floor rotten

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello James,
I think it was a recent topic under the name: Bow locker and hawse pipe deterioration


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/messages?query=locker%20floor

Sincerely Alexandre



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On Thu, 1/4/18, jamestim@me.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor locker floor rotten
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018, 9:16 AM


 









Hi everyone..
Lovely group you've got
here with an amazing amount of good information to hand. We
hope to contribute in coming years as we
cruise. 
I am looking at a 2001 SM
currently for sale in Europe. We plan on long distance
indefinite cruising with a family. The boat, for some reason
has had it's anchor locker floor cut away, the agent
suspects it was rotten.
Has anyone experienced this
same issue? Just seems a bit strange as I've not heard
this before on a SM.
Many thanks in
advance
James 
SM buyer!


Anchor locker floor rotten

James
 

Hi everyone..


Lovely group you've got here with an amazing amount of good information to hand. We hope to contribute in coming years as we cruise. 


I am looking at a 2001 SM currently for sale in Europe. We plan on long distance indefinite cruising with a family. The boat, for some reason has had it's anchor locker floor cut away, the agent suspects it was rotten.


Has anyone experienced this same issue? Just seems a bit strange as I've not heard this before on a SM.


Many thanks in advance


James 


SM buyer!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

Courtney Gorman
 

I second Joel Potter He can definitely find you a very nice boat!
Courtney
Trippin'
54 #101
Brunswick


-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Jan 4, 2018 9:47 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

 
Hi,
There is a fellow in Guadeloupe called JP. If you contact the Guadeloupe marina concierge she knows him. He knows many Super Maramus for sale. There is also Joel Potter he  I am sure can find you a boat.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu 2000
 
 
Hello AMELians,
 
I want to upgrade my AMEL from a Santorin to a Super Maramu 2000 ;-) So, I'm looking to buy a Super Maramu 2000.
 
Does anyone know a SM2000 in good conditions which is on the market or will be soon on the market? I already searched on yachtworld.
 
I'm currently in the Caribbean. But I'm willing to travel to Europe.
 
Pls send a PM to olaf.bauer@....
 
Fair winds
Olaf
 
MIA-AMARA, SN No. 135, Martinique
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: solar Arch

Marcel Krauth <marcel.krauth@...>
 


Sorry I think I forgot to join the picture

On 04/01/2018 14:22, arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Hi Marcel,

Is it only me or did you forget to attach the picture? Where did you get the arch form?

Regards,

Arno



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Haul out southern Sicily or Malta

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I would choose Manoel Island Boatyard, Malta over di Ragusa, and did in 2013. Larger assortment of parts/material, more experience, and less price. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Jan 4, 2018 00:35, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi everyone;


We need to haul out in May 2018 for our bottom paint, bow Thruster and C-drive  service. We also need to change out our batteries and possibly install an arch and solar. Looking for recommendation of yards and outfits that you have worked with and can recoomend in southern Sicily, Malta area. I have read most of the discussions on battery selection on the forum. Would appreciate recommended suppliers in the med or other areas that can ship to the med.


Thanks as always;



Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099







VAT in Martinique

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

As I remember my last trip to Martinique, at least some, maybe all, of the venders removed VAT when I gave them a copy of my US documentation. I remember specifically this happened when I bought a new dinghy at Caribe?.

I asked Gaetan (Martinique Rigger) about this. He says, "Yes it's correct, all the Boats from USA get the VAT out of the final quotation." Maybe some vendors are allowed/licensed to do this without you purchasing a permit.

I would love to hear from one of you that's there now.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


UPDATE *** Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

eric freedman
 

 Hi All,

I will be in Martinique the evening of January 18 for a while,

Looks like the following boats will be there around that time,

Some owners will be on board and others will be away. In any event here seems to be the list

If you will be there around that time please add your name.

 

Jeff Krause 54 Spirit

Derek Gates 53 Brava

Miles Bidwell-not aboard 53 Lady Bug

Dan Carlson, BeBe, SM#387

Vladimir SM 345 "LIFE is Good"

Olaf MIA-AMARA,  Santorin  Ponton 5

James Cromie La Bella Vie (new owner) SM53

Alex Ramseyer, No Stress  AMEL54, 

Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240

Tom Peacock  SM #240 Aletes

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

eric freedman
 

Hi,

There is a fellow in Guadeloupe called JP. If you contact the Guadeloupe marina concierge she knows him. He knows many Super Maramus for sale. There is also Joel Potter he  I am sure can find you a boat.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

 

 

Hello AMELians,

 

I want to upgrade my AMEL from a Santorin to a Super Maramu 2000 ;-) So, I'm looking to buy a Super Maramu 2000.

 

Does anyone know a SM2000 in good conditions which is on the market or will be soon on the market? I already searched on yachtworld.

 

I'm currently in the Caribbean. But I'm willing to travel to Europe.

 

Pls send a PM to olaf.bauer@....

 

Fair winds

Olaf

 

MIA-AMARA, SN No. 135, Martinique