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Re: Inverter Replacement

greatketch@...
 

Strictly in the "for what it's worth" file...

I have had a number of Xantrex products over many years... and never been happy with any of them.  I found them to be short lived and fragile. Sometimes I am a slow learner.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
North Bimini, Bahamas



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

greatketch@...
 

I had planned to do our locker floors myself, but my better half convinced me I had better things to do (smart girl!) I was even more appreciative of her advice when watching the guy who did the work climb out of the locker covered with dust after grinding in prep for the  lamination work.

Our plywood floors were replaced by foam core, with glass laminate on both sides.  It will last the life of the hull with never another issue.

We also added permanent limber holes in the floor of the lockers.  I tried really, really hard to think of a good reason to hold water in the lockers and not let it drain to the bilge and I could not come up with a reason why water should pool there and not be pumped overboard.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
North Bimini, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] UPDATE *** Martinique. Boat on island about January 18

Dan Carlson
 

Hi all, Lori and I are in St Anne now, we will be in le Marin starting Wednesday.  

Eric, we would love to meet you on the 18th.  How about  happy hour at Kokorum? That can accommodate anyone who can show up.

We've got a bunch of kids visiting is between 16 Jan and 1 Feb, but we'd love to host some folks for happy hours on BeBe on Thursday, 11th or Sunday 14th?  Send me an e-mail to carlsdan61 at gmail dot com and I will confirm.  
Looking forward to meeting more Amel owners.

Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387 



On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:05 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

 

Hi All,

I will be in Martinique the evening of January 18 for a while,

Looks like the following boats will be there around that time,

Some owners will be on board and others will be away. In any event here seems to be the list

If you will be there around that time please add your name.

 

Jeff Krause 54 Spirit

Derek Gates 53 Brava

Miles Bidwell-not aboard 53 Lady Bug

Dan Carlson, BeBe, SM#387

Vladimir SM 345 "LIFE is Good"

Olaf MIA-AMARA,  Santorin  Ponton 5

James Cromie La Bella Vie (new owner) SM53

Alex Ramseyer, No Stress  AMEL54, 

Mike Ondra  Aletes SM#240

 

 

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 


Re: Amel decals replacement

Ian Park
 

Stephanie
That’s exactly what we did, plus a photo of the colours (they should be). I had the SANTORIN re done in black lettering, painted the background cream and put the letters on. Comparatively cheap to do. Next time I’ll get a couple of sets done as they do fade in strong sunlight.

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96
Antigua


Boatshow Dűsseldorf Germanny

webercardio@...
 

Boatshow in Dűsseldorf will be from 20th January to 28 th January . Would be a great place to see the newAmel 50. Hope to see a lot of us and perhaps we could  have a get together.

Wolfgang  Weber SY Elise Amel 54 # 162






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

James
 

Oh yeah? It probably slowed it down a bit.., but once the moisture gets in, it spreads fast.. especially in plywood. Even marine ply.

I’m new to Amels, and every boat has it’s achilles tendon.. I’m used to much worse on Taiwanese boats!

James


Best Regards

James Timony

On 6 Jan 2018, at 23:03, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Regarding opening the chain locker door to get air circulation, we had built a mahogany louvered cover which we use when not making passage. The appearance is Amel-like and it's easy to put the solid cover back in place when needed.


(Louver notwithstanding, the floors still rotted out, but I am just about done with the replacements.)
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi James,

This is not an unusual issue with older SMs.  In Martinique Amel has a person who specializes in the repair.  He cuts out the old floor and drops in a new perfectly fitting new one.  It is a quick and (I am told) not expensive procedure.  For those whose floors are still good, opening the front water tight compartment door whenever the boat is  left for some time, will delay or prevent the issue.  I also spray the wood floor with an anti-mold solution every year or so and the floors are solid after 19 years.

Good luck,

Miles

S/Y Ladybug, SM 216 now in Port du Marin, Martinique




Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

Craig Briggs
 

Regarding opening the chain locker door to get air circulation, we had built a mahogany louvered cover which we use when not making passage. The appearance is Amel-like and it's easy to put the solid cover back in place when needed.

(Louver notwithstanding, the floors still rotted out, but I am just about done with the replacements.)
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <milesbid@...> wrote :

Hi James,

This is not an unusual issue with older SMs.  In Martinique Amel has a person who specializes in the repair.  He cuts out the old floor and drops in a new perfectly fitting new one.  It is a quick and (I am told) not expensive procedure.  For those whose floors are still good, opening the front water tight compartment door whenever the boat is  left for some time, will delay or prevent the issue.  I also spray the wood floor with an anti-mold solution every year or so and the floors are solid after 19 years.

Good luck,

Miles

S/Y Ladybug, SM 216 now in Port du Marin, Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inverter Replacement

Mark Pitt
 

I have the Xantrex Prosine 1800i installed for 13 years and it has never given me a problem.

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, Spain


On 1/6/2018 4:17 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
We also installed the Xantrex Prosine 1800i.

It lasted one year and quit.  The error code was "contact the factory".  Xantrex replaced it promptly without waiting for the old one to come back, they just asked me to remove the serial number from it before we put it in the trash.  

So factory support was excellent, but I don't have much faith in it now.  It was installed by an electrician recommended by Joel Potter (Lean Marine in Ft. Lauderdale), so I don't think that was the issue.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Inverter Replacement

Duane Siegfri
 

We also installed the Xantrex Prosine 1800i.

It lasted one year and quit.  The error code was "contact the factory".  Xantrex replaced it promptly without waiting for the old one to come back, they just asked me to remove the serial number from it before we put it in the trash.  

So factory support was excellent, but I don't have much faith in it now.  It was installed by an electrician recommended by Joel Potter (Lean Marine in Ft. Lauderdale), so I don't think that was the issue.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

James
 

Hi Miles

No brainer there. I’d be mad not to hire Oliver to do survey and Bill to guide me through the process and explain everything Amel to me!

Money well spent.. I dodged a bullet in Greece several years back buying a Formosa 51… Dealing with a belligerent owner.. saved by the survey..

Looking seriously at several anyway, but I’ll definitely evaluate the possibility of doing up #311 since it’s located well for us… 

Cheers guys!

James


On 6 Jan 2018, at 21:06, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


HI James,

 

If you are serious about the boat, hiring Oliver Beauté to do a survey is a good investment as everyone on this forum seems to agree.  A boat that has not been well maintained can get very expensive very quickly.  

 

Miles  Ladybug, sm216  Martinique




Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

Miles
 

HI James,

 

If you are serious about the boat, hiring Oliver Beauté to do a survey is a good investment as everyone on this forum seems to agree.  A boat that has not been well maintained can get very expensive very quickly. 

 

Miles  Ladybug, sm216  Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Haul out southern Sicily or Malta

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks Bill. Since we are currently wintering in Licata Sicily, this was our first choice. Good to know you had a good experience with them. Any contact people at the boat yard?
 
I tried sending you an e-mail to Bill@... and the e-mail was bounced back. What is a good e-mail for you now?
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 6:29 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Haul out southern Sicily or Malta

 

I would choose Manoel Island Boatyard, Malta over di Ragusa, and did in 2013. Larger assortment of parts/material, more experience, and less price. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Jan 4, 2018 00:35, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi everyone;


We need to haul out in May 2018 for our bottom paint, bow Thruster and C-drive  service. We also need to change out our batteries and possibly install an arch and solar. Looking for recommendation of yards and outfits that you have worked with and can recoomend in southern Sicily, Malta area. I have read most of the discussions on battery selection on the forum. Would appreciate recommended suppliers in the med or other areas that can ship to the med.


Thanks as always;



Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

James
 

Hi Miles

Many thanks. I don’t think it would be very difficult. Make a template, laminate 2x6mm together, instal and screw to old flange. Glass in tabbing around the section and then the entire piece. Should be solid as all heck. I’l like to see some other SM to see what I’m aiming for though.. 

Going to make plans to see the boat and establish if it is worthwhile based on price vs cost of work.. Just hope the owner is realistic! 

Cheers!

James




On 6 Jan 2018, at 19:06, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi James,

This is not an unusual issue with older SMs.  In Martinique Amel has a person who specializes in the repair.  He cuts out the old floor and drops in a new perfectly fitting new one.  It is a quick and (I am told) not expensive procedure.  For those whose floors are still good, opening the front water tight compartment door whenever the boat is  left for some time, will delay or prevent the issue.  I also spray the wood floor with an anti-mold solution every year or so and the floors are solid after 19 years. 

Good luck,

Miles

S/Y Ladybug, SM 216 now in Port du Marin, Martinique




Re: Anchor locker floor rotten

Miles
 

Hi James,

This is not an unusual issue with older SMs.  In Martinique Amel has a person who specializes in the repair.  He cuts out the old floor and drops in a new perfectly fitting new one.  It is a quick and (I am told) not expensive procedure.  For those whose floors are still good, opening the front water tight compartment door whenever the boat is  left for some time, will delay or prevent the issue.  I also spray the wood floor with an anti-mold solution every year or so and the floors are solid after 19 years.

Good luck,

Miles

S/Y Ladybug, SM 216 now in Port du Marin, Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel decals replacement

Mark Erdos
 

Hello Stephanie,

 

I bit the bullet and ordered them from Amel. They were very easy to replace. I was surprised how easy the old ones came off. This is not a regular stock item for them. Sometime the decals are available, sometimes they are not.

 

When I first asked Amel, they were not available and I contacted a local sign making company. It was cost prohibitive due to the set up fees. I was glad when I asked Amel again and they had them.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 12:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel decals replacement

 

 

Our decals are looking not so “spiffy.” I inquired at Amel and the price for a replacement set - 90 € without shipping. Has anyone found a less costly replacement? I had thought of doing a tracing and bringing it to a local sign shop. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,
Stephanie DiBelardino
Nettuno, Rome, Italy


Amel decals replacement

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Our decals are looking not so “spiffy.” I inquired at Amel and the price for a replacement set - 90 € without shipping. Has anyone found a less costly replacement? I had thought of doing a tracing and bringing it to a local sign shop. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,
Stephanie DiBelardino
Nettuno, Rome, Italy


Re: Inverter Replacement

greatketch@...
 

Our newer generation Victron MultiPlus is a bit better at idle power draw, but not wildly so.  It has three possible modes.

One is fully on and powered up.  That uses about 20 Watts if nothing else is turned on.

There are two "search modes." One powers the circuit all the time with a distorted sine wave looking for power users, and then switches to "normal" when something draws power.  This uses about 15 Watts.  

Finally is full search mode, where the output is powered up every 2 seconds or so looking for users.  If none are found, it shuts off again.  This uses about 10 Watts.

We always use the "full search" mode and have not had any problems. If we plug in a computer, it pops on right away, and and the inverter shuts itself off when we unplug it.  It has behaved "properly" with everything we have ever plugged into it.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
North Bimini, Bahamas

---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote :

Ian,

We installed the «PROsine 1800i Part # 806-1884 24V Hardwire w/ transfer relay», with «Remote Interface Panel Part # 808-1800» similar to what the Amel factory installed on Bill Rouse's boat.   

Whether on or off, it makes no difference to RF noise levels on any equipment on the boat that I've noticed.  Ours has worked fine and sometimes pretty hard for 4 years... in fact back in the States we used it as 24x7 power supply when on shore power given the fact all appliances onboard (down to the toothbrushes) are 230V/50Hz.

The only downside to this inverter is that it consumes somewhere between 25w and 50w just by being turned on.  I have heard that more modern inverters are more efficient when on but not actually supplying any power... evidently this inverter design is at least 15 years old.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K No. 350 (2002)
Herzliya, Israel
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

Mark Erdos
 

Agreed 100%. Joel is the go to guy in N. America.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 10:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Looking for a Super Maramu 2000

 

 

We just purchased our SM in Ft. Lauderdale and I will add to the litany of recommendations for Joel Potter.  Having him find an Amel for you will require patience, but only because his standards are high and he is uncompromising.  He took care of us before, during and after the purchase.  Rare, indeed.

Mark Isaac
SM #391 Lulu
Ft. Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] solar Arch

carcodespam@...
 



This arch I have had ordered and manufactured in Monastir, Tunisia last year for 2200 tunisian Dinar. That is about 760 Euro including installation but without the cost of the solar panel.

Gerhard
Sharki #80


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] solar Arch

webercardio <webercardio@...>
 

You will find nice videos on YouTube made by him if you search for  Soleil bleu le hard top and Soleil bleu annexe. This will give you some informations. When I met Riza last year on the Boatshow the solar arch with 600 Wp , complete with installation in Goecek TR was 6000 €.
I was thinking of adding an solararch, but decided to run the generator and keep the dinghy on the deck. I will add at the reling each side 150 wp solar panels .
Wolfgang SY Elise Amel 54 #162 Marina di Ragusa