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Thomson Washing Machine
Stephan Regulinski
Does anyone have the repair manual for the Thomson Australe 3 washing
machine (used on the SMM)? Mine will not start. I push the start button, the red light comes on, then nothing: no water, no mechanical sounds, no electrical sounds, nada. A few seconds later the red light goes off. Stephan Delos (SMM #303)
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Autohelm linear drive unit
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
I have put a couple of pics in the photos section. These were taken
on my last boat, a 1985 Oyster 435.The drive unit originally had nylon planetary gears and these had a very limited life. I went to Autohelm,as it then was pre Raymarine, and bought three sets of spare gears at a cost (1990) of £12.50 per set,one to replace mine and two as spares. I could have bought brass ones but they cost £125 per set! I later sold the other two sets to two cruisers stranded at a couple of places in the South Pacific and bought brass gears. Olivier assured me that my boat(2001) has brass gears but it may well be that earlier models do not. A prudent yottie would check before a long voyage. The second pic shows the effect of worn out brushes which could also cause a stranding. Again spares should be carried on long passages unless you have two drive units. Getting the spare brushes was not easy in a faraway location.The Agents in Australia sent me the wrong ones as Autohelm had changed motor suppliers and seemingly kept it a secret. A fax to Autohelm gave me this bit of info adding that they did not carry spares for my motor. Nor did they tell me who made my motor and their contact info. Stranded in Vanuatu we were not impressed. Best wishes, Anne and John SM319
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Re: Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory
Claus von der Heydt <cvdhwoe@...>
Hi Everyone,
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I just uploaded a file about galvanic corrosion. Maybe it is helpful. Regards Claus, S/V Jonathan, SM #196
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Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Everyone.
Since Bill & Judy Rouse posted related to their bilge grounding strap failure I have inspected my strap and found it intact. My boat is of about the same vintage so I am trying to figure out why their strap failed, then the AC pump impeller went to pieces and the relation to the general theory of grounding (bonding) on the Amel boats. I would welcome input from everyone in trying to understand the rather seemingly black art of bonding in sea going vessels. This is my understanding. 1. The iron keel and all other metallic items that are submersed in salt water are bonded (connected) to all other metallic items in the boat that are salt water immersed. This includes the various pumps, valves, through hulls,engines, transmission, Herth drive, rudder, etc. 2. These are then bonded to the rudder post to which the sacrificial zinc anodes are attached. 3. The purpose of bonding is to provide an electrical equipotential or low resistance path for any stray current to flow to the sacrificial anodes on the rudder. This stray current may be from electrical component stray current, marina leakage current or dissimilar metal induced stray current. 4. a). I believer, but I am not sure, that the bilge bonding strap is made from solid copper because it connects to such a large potential current sink (the keel) and lives in a hostile environment where a cable with a terminal end would not fair well. b). The engine compartment bonding wires are all tied together at the bilge copper strap just as a centrally located tie point.????.. 5. Like a wet cell battery, with two dissimilar metals submerged in an electrolyte solution current flows when a complete circuit exists. Our boat is a giant wet cell battery with dissimilar metals submerged in an electrolyte solution. Add to this the additional hazard of stray current leakage from marina wiring or onboard electrical appliances and it is no wonder our zinc electrodes go away so fast. 6. So, causes of increased zinc anode consumption might include: a) More time in marinas with their well know propensity to have lots of stray current, b) electrical components onboard the boat that leak electrical current, such as inverters, electrical appliances, motors etc. 7. Any item that becomes isolated from the bonding grid by becoming disconnected or having a high resistance attachment to the grid due to corrosion of the bonding wire to protected item joint will no longer be protected by the zinc sacrificial anodes and will proceed to corrode. That is my rudimentary understanding of the system. Other thoughts are welcome. So Bill, I think the keel becoming disconnected from the bonding system would probably NOT have led to the problem with the AC pump and/or sea water manifold. More likely there is a high resistance connection between those items and the bonding system or you have additional current leaks. I think it should be possible to measure for a high resistance connection by using a digital ohm meter and checking the resistance between the rudder post in the aft cabin and the pump or pipe you're interested in. My time on the boat in marinas is very limited because I only get on the boat 3 months a year and when I am in the marina and not on the boat I disconnect from shore power and use solar panels to keep the batteries up. Six months of the year the boat is on the hard, My limited exposure is what I am thinking helped me still have a good bilge bonding strap. I would have rather had more miles on the boat by now. I envy you. Regards, Gary s/v Liahona Antigua
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prop upgrade & grounding strap
amel46met
To the group & JoeMac4Sail, Most prop manufacturers we have spoken
with ask "what is a shaft alternator?". The few that were familiar with the alternators were not sure if their props would work. We were hoping to get info from other Amel owners who have dealt with this, or if Amel has a factory setup/stock installation. In answer to your question, Steve Dashew's encyclopedia states he has installed the Maxi-Prop and while under sail, puts it into reverse gear when he wants it to charge. In regards to the grounding strap, did the Maramu 46 come with this strap and is there a schematic for the bonding/grounding circuits. Thank you, Tom & Mary Ellen s/v Aphrodite.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
eric freedman
Vito,
today I am in NY. Saturday Colombia on business. then to St Martin, haul the boat paint and sail back to NY. have you found work in NZ? Have you heard from Lucia? fair winds, eric _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:10 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse Hi Eric Not everyone has a great passage. You dont get strong winds, what you do get is light to no wind with the normal trade wind swell. Makes for very unconfortable conditions. We are in NZ. Will stay here for a few years. Thanks for the info on the strap. Where are you. Vito --- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote: the problem. It runs along the forward end of the wet bilge and isbolted to the keel bolt in the bottom of the wet bilge. There is a great photowith dimensions posted in the photos by JJrouse2000. I believe thisrotted out strap caused my manifold failure, I had one made in stainless in StMartin for $300- US. I plan to install it next week. It looks like asimple job. The only thing that was rotted in the manifold was the A/C pumptap. . It looked like Swiss cheese when I cleaned it up. I would check it.A/c, no watermaker, and no salt water flush on the heads. We used theshower. yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283 Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:15 PMyahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouseyou tell if it needs replacement. Does Amel sell a replacement?the nose. But the trip from The Galapagos to the Marquesas can beto 25 knots the entire way, got up to 35 for the last day. I did usethe mizzen staysail quite a bit on that trip. Not only did it add aknot of boat speed but it steadied the boat and virtually stopped theOa in 16 1/2 days. A time not matched by any other similar size boat40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebetheSent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:41 AMyahoogroups.com bitthein the hole to enlarge it. The new strap is 1/8" copper and drills Lethole big enough by comparing it to the nut. My guess is that 3/4"willdo. bolt. Ime describe these: They look like a copper bolt and nut; except, theused 2 of these. Drill a hole for bolt in the new strap and push youbolt through the hole...now push the clean bare ends of the wires willbehave an all copper connection.Galapagos sure iwithout Internet for some time. have the right size drill bit.
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Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hi Eric
Not everyone has a great passage. You dont get strong winds, what you do get is light to no wind with the normal trade wind swell. Makes for very unconfortable conditions. We are in NZ. Will stay here for a few years. Thanks for the info on the strap. Where are you. Vito --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote: the problem. It runs along the forward end of the wet bilge and isbolted to the keel bolt in the bottom of the wet bilge. There is a great photowith dimensions posted in the photos by JJrouse2000. I believe thisrotted out strap caused my manifold failure, I had one made in stainless in StMartin for $300- US. I plan to install it next week. It looks like asimple job. The only thing that was rotted in the manifold was the A/C pumptap. . It looked like Swiss cheese when I cleaned it up. I would check it.A/c, no watermaker, and no salt water flush on the heads. We used theshower. you tell if it needs replacement. Does Amel sell a replacement?the nose. But the trip from The Galapagos to the Marquesas can beto 25 knots the entire way, got up to 35 for the last day. I did usethe mizzen staysail quite a bit on that trip. Not only did it add aknot of boat speed but it steadied the boat and virtually stopped theOa in 16 1/2 days. A time not matched by any other similar size boat40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebetheSent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:41 AMyahoogroups.com bitthein the hole to enlarge it. The new strap is 1/8" copper and drills Lethole big enough by comparing it to the nut. My guess is that 3/4"willdo. bolt. Ime describe these: They look like a copper bolt and nut; except, theused 2 of these. Drill a hole for bolt in the new strap and push youbolt through the hole...now push the clean bare ends of the wires willbehave an all copper connection.Galapagos sure iwithout Internet for some time. have the right size drill bit.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
eric freedman
Hi Vito,
Ian of Pen Azen mentioned that amazing passage. With respect to the ground strap, I was not the first to discover the problem. It runs along the forward end of the wet bilge and is bolted to the keel bolt in the bottom of the wet bilge. There is a great photo with dimensions posted in the photos by JJrouse2000. I believe this rotted out strap caused my manifold failure, I had one made in stainless in St Martin for $300- US. I plan to install it next week. It looks like a simple job. The only thing that was rotted in the manifold was the A/C pump tap. . It looked like Swiss cheese when I cleaned it up. I would check it. If you do, make sure you have some epoxy putty handy. Otherwise, no A/c, no watermaker, and no salt water flush on the heads. We used the shower. Where are you? Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283 Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:15 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse Hi Eric How are you. I read with intrest about this grounding strap in the bildge. I did not know that it was even there. I will need to check and see what condition its in. What did you look for and how can you tell if it needs replacement. Does Amel sell a replacement? By the way to the surprise of most people who make the Panama to Galapagos trip its a windward bash as the prevailing winds are on the nose. But the trip from The Galapagos to the Marquesas can be magical. Wanderer in 2005 had steady trade winds from the SE at 15 to 25 knots the entire way, got up to 35 for the last day. I did use the mizzen staysail quite a bit on that trip. Not only did it add a knot of boat speed but it steadied the boat and virtually stopped the rolling. With that sail up we crossed from Isabella island to Hiva Oa in 16 1/2 days. A time not matched by any other similar size boat that I know of. Fair Winds Vito Ciaravino Wanderer ASM 283 --- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote: yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:41 AMyahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrousebit in the hole to enlarge it. The new strap is 1/8" copper and drillswill do.will have an all copper connection.Galapagos tomorrow...If there is anything else, let me know today as I will be
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hi Eric
How are you. I read with intrest about this grounding strap in the bildge. I did not know that it was even there. I will need to check and see what condition its in. What did you look for and how can you tell if it needs replacement. Does Amel sell a replacement? By the way to the surprise of most people who make the Panama to Galapagos trip its a windward bash as the prevailing winds are on the nose. But the trip from The Galapagos to the Marquesas can be magical. Wanderer in 2005 had steady trade winds from the SE at 15 to 25 knots the entire way, got up to 35 for the last day. I did use the mizzen staysail quite a bit on that trip. Not only did it add a knot of boat speed but it steadied the boat and virtually stopped the rolling. With that sail up we crossed from Isabella island to Hiva Oa in 16 1/2 days. A time not matched by any other similar size boat that I know of. Fair Winds Vito Ciaravino Wanderer ASM 283 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote: bit in the hole to enlarge it. The new strap is 1/8" copper and drillswill do.will have an all copper connection.Galapagos tomorrow...If there is anything else, let me know today as I will be
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
eric freedman
Dear Bill & Judy,
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Thanks for the info. Have a safe passage. If conditions are right, try using the genoa and mizzen ballooner. Fair Winds, Eric _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:41 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse Eric, All we had was a 1/2" bit and it was too small. We had to work the bit in the hole to enlarge it. The new strap is 1/8" copper and drills easily. Unfortunately I did not measure the keel bolt, just made the hole big enough by comparing it to the nut. My guess is that 3/4" will do. A couple of hints: * You will need several 1/2" drive extensions to reach the nut. I think I had 2 - 12" and 1 - 8" extensions * Place some masking tape inside the socket to bind the nut...that way the nut comes up or goes down with the socket. * Since I did first this job I found some copper wire lug bolts. Let me describe these: They look like a copper bolt and nut; except, excluding the head, the bolt is split down the length of the bolt. I used 2 of these. Drill a hole for bolt in the new strap and push the bolt through the hole...now push the clean bare ends of the wires through the space in the bolt. Tighten the nut on the bolt and you will have an all copper connection. We are on the Pacific side of the Canal and departing for the Galapagos tomorrow...If there is anything else, let me know today as I will be without Internet for some time. Best, Bill with Judy Cruising on s/v BeBe SM2 #387 --- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "eric freedman" <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
Eric,
There are photos and specs of the replacement ground strap in an album titled Bilge - Ground Strap at http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/browse/d3f4 Best, Bill s/v BeBe SM2 #387
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Re: Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
Eric,
All we had was a 1/2" bit and it was too small. We had to work the bit in the hole to enlarge it. The new strap is 1/8" copper and drills easily. Unfortunately I did not measure the keel bolt, just made the hole big enough by comparing it to the nut. My guess is that 3/4" will do. A couple of hints: * You will need several 1/2" drive extensions to reach the nut. I think I had 2 - 12" and 1 - 8" extensions * Place some masking tape inside the socket to bind the nut...that way the nut comes up or goes down with the socket. * Since I did first this job I found some copper wire lug bolts. Let me describe these: They look like a copper bolt and nut; except, excluding the head, the bolt is split down the length of the bolt. I used 2 of these. Drill a hole for bolt in the new strap and push the bolt through the hole...now push the clean bare ends of the wires through the space in the bolt. Tighten the nut on the bolt and you will have an all copper connection. We are on the Pacific side of the Canal and departing for the Galapagos tomorrow...If there is anything else, let me know today as I will be without Internet for some time. Best, Bill with Judy Cruising on s/v BeBe SM2 #387 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric freedman" <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Bilge Grounding strap jrjrjrrouse
eric freedman
Hi,
how large is the hole that you drilled in the end of the bilge grounding strap to acomodate the keel bolt? I am headed off to the carib to replace it and want to make sure i have the right size drill bit. Thanks eric sm376 likberlite
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SM aft cabin vanity
john martin <symoondog@...>
Two photos are posted now in our Moon Dog folder, I guess we forgot to post them before. The camera flash makes it appear that the new section is much lighter than the rest of the paneling. In reality it matches quite well, except we never got around to staining the oak trim edging (around each new cabinet door) to match the Amel doors. A project for another day...
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Regards, John To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kimberlite@optonline.netDate: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:24:14 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2 topics: Algae-X and the SM aft cabin vanity
John,I could not find your vanity photos.would you please direct me to them.thanksEricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john martinSent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:11 PMTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2 topics: Algae-X and the SM aft cabin vanityI'd like to thank the gentleman on this net who wrote a few years ago about installing an Algae-X fuel filter in his SM to eliminate the constant black streak problem from the engine exhaust. I bought one a year ago and have not had to clean the side of the boat since. I don't know how it works, butyou just install it and forget about it, absolutely no maintenance. The best $170 I ever spent !I also want to offer a belated response to emails some time ago about the aft cabin vanity. We never used the vanity and it occupies a lot of volume so we decided to make a cabinet out of it. See photos on this site in our folder "Moon Dog". The little seat removes very easily (and can be reinstalled easily as well). We put one shelf inside, made of 16" deep household variety plastic coated wire shelving) that rests on the conduit ridge molded into the hull and is screwed to the existing bulkheads. The cabinet front is just a pices of varnished mahogany plywood, with 2 doors similar in style to the Amel doors (although we need to stain the edging dark to match the rest of the boat). We left the carpet in and the cabinet front is screwed in on each side through the existing bulkheads. All our "improvements" can be easily removed if needed. My wife loves it as it is alarge cabinet that can hold bulky items such as linens, blankets, and many, many pairs of shoes as well.We also installed some very simple "book bars" in the cabin "cubbyholes". We got tired of all the books dumping out whenever we had a somewhat rolly passage ! See photos on this site in our folder.John MartinMoon Dog SM #248__________________________________________________________Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN Presents today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline&ocid=T002MSN03A07001Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Liferaft, Locker or Cradle?
joseph mc donnell
Hi All
Thanks guys for your quick replies. I probably should have told you all that the liferaft is a 10 man cannister (big bugger),which came of our last cruiser (a bendy toy). I can see that a lot of thought has gone into this problem in the past. Im in agreement with a lot of suggestions. I came to the same solution as Bill and raised the canister to just under the lip (beer bottle crates cut to size) . We all know about the benifits of a little bit of fear on your strength. The practiced timed launch suggested by Robin sounds like a good idea, especially for inexperienced crew. I think that hoisting out the liferaft using the boom should be forgotten about. Its a lot of weight that can take off across the cockpit, in a rough sea, if attached to the boom. I do'nt think that Eric spot on the rail would be suitable for our liferaft considering the weight. This I belive leaves two options either on the deck or beside the aft steps outside the rail. This leads to the next question, is reinforcement required to the deck. Thanks again, Its good to have answers for club members. Yours Joe McDonnell
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2 topics: Algae-X and the SM aft cabin vanity
eric freedman
John,
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I could not find your vanity photos. would you please direct me to them. thanks Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john martin Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:11 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2 topics: Algae-X and the SM aft cabin vanity I'd like to thank the gentleman on this net who wrote a few years ago about installing an Algae-X fuel filter in his SM to eliminate the constant black streak problem from the engine exhaust. I bought one a year ago and have not had to clean the side of the boat since. I don't know how it works, but you just install it and forget about it, absolutely no maintenance. The best $170 I ever spent ! I also want to offer a belated response to emails some time ago about the aft cabin vanity. We never used the vanity and it occupies a lot of volume so we decided to make a cabinet out of it. See photos on this site in our folder "Moon Dog". The little seat removes very easily (and can be reinstalled easily as well). We put one shelf inside, made of 16" deep household variety plastic coated wire shelving) that rests on the conduit ridge molded into the hull and is screwed to the existing bulkheads. The cabinet front is just a pices of varnished mahogany plywood, with 2 doors similar in style to the Amel doors (although we need to stain the edging dark to match the rest of the boat). We left the carpet in and the cabinet front is screwed in on each side through the existing bulkheads. All our "improvements" can be easily removed if needed. My wife loves it as it is a large cabinet that can hold bulky items such as linens, blankets, and many, many pairs of shoes as well. We also installed some very simple "book bars" in the cabin "cubbyholes". We got tired of all the books dumping out whenever we had a somewhat rolly passage ! See photos on this site in our folder. John Martin Moon Dog SM #248 _________________________________________________________________ Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN Presents today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline&ocid=T002MSN03A07001 Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?
svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
Judy and I are cruising and need to be able to carry extra fuel in
Jerry Cans. We found a 18.9 liter Jerry Can that we are able to fit 10 into the "Liferaft Locker." We placed the liferaft into the port lazerette to give us storage for the 10 Jerry Cans and because we also struggled with the removal of the liferaft from its locker. Here is an alternate idea for you. Had we not needed the storage space for the diesel, we were considering storing some seldom used items at the bottom of the liferaft locker raising the level of the liferaft. I believe if it were just under the hatch, all of your concerns would be satisfied. Best, Bill & Judy Rouse s/v BeBe SM2 #387 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Robin Cooter <robincooter@...> wrote: crossing we meticulously checked out all our safety gear. The liferaft, in a valise, was stowed in the "liferaft locker" midships on the port side. We made a dummy run to "launch" it. We used the eye under the mast to rig a a block and tackle to lift the liferaft (we had struggled to lift it manually through the opening.) Rigging the tackle was very quick but the problem was that the valise would not go through the opening. After about 15 minutes we managed to work it through. Balancing the conditions in which it might be used v the adrenalin rush from the emergency we decided to repace he valise (which was 10 years old but still certificated.) with a canister which is stowed in a quick release mount outside the rails on the port side aft. The only problems we have had with this arrangement is that it has at times caught on posts, protrusions from docks and the like. We have a fender on the outboard side of the liferaft and as such we have never sufferedanything worthy of entering in the log! nothing other than a normal safety briefing and see if the result is acceptable to you.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?
Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
After we purchased our Santorin and before we made a trans-atlantic crossing we meticulously checked out all our safety gear. The liferaft, in a valise, was stowed in the "liferaft locker" midships on the port side. We made a dummy run to "launch" it. We used the eye under the mast to rig a a block and tackle to lift the liferaft (we had struggled to lift it manually through the opening.) Rigging the tackle was very quick but the problem was that the valise would not go through the opening. After about 15 minutes we managed to work it through. Balancing the conditions in which it might be used v the adrenalin rush from the emergency we decided to repace he valise (which was 10 years old but still certificated.) with a canister which is stowed in a quick release mount outside the rails on the port side aft. The only problems we have had with this arrangement is that it has at times caught on posts, protrusions from docks and the like. We have a fender on the
outboard side of the liferaft and as such we have never suffered anything worthy of entering in the log! The message has to be try a timed launch with a crew who have had nothing other than a normal safety briefing and see if the result is acceptable to you. Regards, Robin Cooter, Santorin 004, Belouga. joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie> wrote: The question of where the liferaft should be positioned on our club owned Santorin has arisen. It has been suggested that it would be better if the liferaft was mounted on the rail or deck. Personally I'm of the opinion that if it ain't broken don't fix it and for the last thing I would want to abandon, to get into a liferaft, is an Amel. But the suggestion has come from a respected club member with vast sea experience,and as it is a club boat with various levels of experience,this suggestion has to be evaluated. As we are new to the Amel Family (3 years now and enjoying it thoroughly), I hope that the vast experience out there will come to my aid. The Club is called The East Coast Garda Sailing Club based in Dun Laoire, Ireland. We are basically a group of people with an interest in sailing who got together to do a bit of cruising during the summer and day sailing during the winter on the Santorin "Khamsin B" We also are involved racing on our other boat. The purchase of Khamsin as you can immagine has extended out our horisons big time, but with that comes the safety factor. Looking forward to reading your suggestions. Joe McDonnell --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good helps you make a difference
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle?
eric freedman
I think the liferaft is in a good spot.
I believe if it is mounted on the rail or the deck, it will suffer more abuse. Many life rafts are not made to be hung off a rail. More importantly, the weight. On my last boat, I had a Jordan series drogue in an aft locker. It took two of us to push and kick the 100-pound drogue into the locker. When I was in 50-70 plus knots and needed it, I pulled it out with one hand. You would be very surprised how strong you get in a disaster. Incidentally, it worked fantastically and I had one made for Kimberlite and keep it in the port locker. I believe it is the best drag device on the market. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM KLEIN Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:03 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle? In my opinion an liferaft in a locker may be useless in an emergency situation. To lift a raft out of a locker may be very difficult in storm conditions. I know mine was hard to remove from the lazerette when I was at a dock! When I replace mine it would be with a deck mounted cannister . -- Bill Klein - SV Popeye ----- Original Mesage ----- From: joemac4sail To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Liferaft, Locker or Deck Cradle? factor. Looking forward to reading your suggestions.=20=20 Joe McDonnell=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C89D76.AECF6BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The question of where the liferaft should be positioned on our club owned Santorin has arisen. It has been suggested that it would be better if the liferaft was mounted on the rail or deck. Personally I'm of the opinion that if it ain't broken don't fix it and for the last thing I would want to abandon, to get into a liferaft, is an Amel. But the suggestion has come from a respected club member with vast sea experience,and as it is a club boat with various levels of experience,this suggestion has to be evaluated. As we are new to the Amel Family (3 years now and enjoying it thoroughly), I hope that the vast experience out there will come to my aid. The Club is called The East Coast Garda Sailing Club based in Dun Laoire, Ireland. We are basically a group of people with an interest in sailing who got together to do a bit of cruising during the summer and day sailing during the winter on the Santorin "Khamsin B" We also are involved racing on our other boat. The purchase of Khamsin as you can immagine has extended out our horisons big time, but with that comes the safety factor. Looking forward to reading your suggestions. Joe McDonnell
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prop upgrade
amel46met
To the group: I am Tom Deasy, owner of the 1983 Amel Maramu
"Aphrodite" located in Santa Cruz, California. I am thinking of upgrading from a fixed to a feathering/folding prop, possibly a "Max-Prop". My concern is that I have a shaft alternator which I would like to continue to use and I assume this may limit my choice of props. Any information or opinions on the many choices of props now available would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Tom & Mary Ellen
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