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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

You did not say where you are, but I think you are in the Caribbean. Amel in Martinique probably has the gears in stock and possibly a rebuilt unit: AMEL CARAIBES - AMEL FR <amel.caraibes@...>

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.
I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

VLADIMIR
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"



 




--
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Re: Bamar Amel Upgrade & New Group Member

cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...>
 

I would be interested in this too! Please keep me in the loop.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

amelforme
 

Kent, Porter, please call me. Nine Five 4 four 8 one two 2485, or text your numbers to me there.

 

Hope to put something together, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale

HEADSAIL FURLING

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.
I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

VLADIMIR
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"



 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

Porter McRoberts
 

Kent!  
We are in Fort Lauderdale for a few more weeks love to get together!  

Porter

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 19, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Welcome to the "Family" Mark & Debbie!  I'm anchoredin South Lake in Hollywood waiting for some parts to arrive.  Hope to be sailing to Bahamas, T&C, then South on Tues or Wed.  Would be happy to buy you a beer/wine/rum if you'd like to get together.  Anybody else in Ft Lauderdale area now?

Joel, are you available for dinner and/or a drink?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


On Jan 18, 2018, at 21:01, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My wife, Debbie, and I are recent purchasers of an A54 #68 currently in Fort Lauderdale.  We are pleased to be members of such a dedicated community of people that are willing to help each other.  Hopefully we will be able to contribute in the future.

 

The second reason for the post is that we are planning to take advantage of the Bamar Amel upgrade program.  Paul at Bamar USA informed me that if enough people are interested in taking advantage of this program there would be significant cost savings of the furling gear.  If you have any interest please email Paul at the following address:  “paul at bamarUSA dot com”


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


Colour code hull gelcoat of SM 2K

Willem Kroes
 

Hi all owners of SM's 2K,


I am looking for information about the colour code of the white hull of a Super Maramu 2K.  Can anyone provide me with a RAL-code or an Awlgrip number?


I asked Amel, but Maud Touillet told me that Amel used a special gelcoat for these SM's without any colour code.


Looking forward to your reaction,


Willem Kroes


SM2K # 351 "Kavanga" now on the hard in Combarro, Spain



Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Danny,

My screws holding the center stem to the base are not hex head. They are flat screws. See my photo of the center stem. That rattle gun sounds like a winner. I don't have any dive bottles (yet), so that's a no-go for today. I'm off to the Ferretería to purchase some better penetrating oil, a torch of some kind and a replacement bit for my impact driver and give this another go.

-Bode/s

Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale

New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

karkauai
 

Welcome to the "Family" Mark & Debbie!  I'm anchoredin South Lake in Hollywood waiting for some parts to arrive.  Hope to be sailing to Bahamas, T&C, then South on Tues or Wed.  Would be happy to buy you a beer/wine/rum if you'd like to get together.  Anybody else in Ft Lauderdale area now?

Joel, are you available for dinner and/or a drink?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


On Jan 18, 2018, at 21:01, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My wife, Debbie, and I are recent purchasers of an A54 #68 currently in Fort Lauderdale.  We are pleased to be members of such a dedicated community of people that are willing to help each other.  Hopefully we will be able to contribute in the future.

 

The second reason for the post is that we are planning to take advantage of the Bamar Amel upgrade program.  Paul at Bamar USA informed me that if enough people are interested in taking advantage of this program there would be significant cost savings of the furling gear.  If you have any interest please email Paul at the following address:  “paul at bamarUSA dot com”


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help [2 Attachments]

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Steve,

I've been there. Fortunately the screws are hex head. You can get a hex head bit that  fits in what we call a rattle gun. These are the usually air driven drivers that are used to remove wheel nuts on cars and trucks, also for any hard to undo fastenings. Nothing else moved mine. With the rattle gun, instant success. I have an air hose off a dive bottle that allows me to use any air tools, paint spray guns etc on the boat. When you use the rattle gun take care, apply in short squirts. As well as air operated now you can get cordless electrical as well.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 20 January 2018 at 12:08 "steve_bode@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre,

Got your picture, and understand that I should be able to remove the screws holding the center stem to the motor base. However, the center stem has not been removed (I think) ever and the bolts must be really seized. I broke a heavy-duty impact driver trying to get them out. Based on Bill's comment about a torch flame, I may buy a new impact drive and a torch and give that a shot. But I serious doubt that will do it.

Any one ever remove an Lewmar electric winch from a deck?

Steve Bode
Amel SM117



---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas


 


 

Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Alexandre,
Got your picture, and understand that I should be able to remove the screws holding the center stem to the motor base. However, the center stem has not been removed (I think) ever and the bolts must be really seized. I broke a heavy-duty impact driver trying to get them out. Based on Bill's comment about a torch flame, I may buy a new impact drive and a torch and give that a shot. But I serious doubt that will do it.

Any one ever remove an Lewmar electric winch from a deck?

Steve Bode
Amel SM117



---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas


Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

greatketch@...
 

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas


Re: Isolated alternators

greatketch@...
 

Thomas,

There are two significantly different types of alternators, depending on where the how the return circuit to the battery negative is made.

In a "case grounded" alternator there is usually an attachment on the alternator for the battery Positive wire ONLY.  The connection back to the battery Negative is through the alternator external case, and then through the engine block.  This will not work on an Amel because the engine block is not continuously connected to the battery negative. These are the common alternators used on automobiles.  

Occasionally, this type of "case grounded" alternator has a connection for a battery negative cable on it.  The way to check if your alternator is "case grounded" is to look for continuity between the Negative terminal on the alternator and the the alternator's external case. If the alternator is "case grounded" it will show near zero ohms on this path.  It is not suitable for an Amel UNLESS the case is electrically isolated from the engine block with the plastic inserts.  Putting one of these on an Amel without the isolation parts will make a continuous direct connection between the bonding system (connected to the engine) and the battery negative (connected to the alternator case).  This eliminates the "floating negative" that the Amel was designed with.  It would put all the underwater parts of the boat at risk for stray current corrosion.

The other type of alternator with an "isolated ground" has connections for both battery Positive and battery Negative on the alternator.  This is the best type of alternator, and hopefully the one you have.  On this type of alternator, if you test the resistance between the Negative terminal and the case you will see an open circuit--no connection.  If you have this type of alternator, it can be installed safely without the plastic isolation parts since it is already electrically isolated from its mount to the engine.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Steve,
I assume you are a new owner, so welcome to the group!
Be careful with listening to what others can do, if the part break, it is not going to be out of their pocket… I would be afraid the bold break in half…
How about letting it soak in ZEP 45 or any high quality penetrating oil then keep trying…
If the picture you posted is your last step, you can remove the gear, then the base.
You do not need to remove the electric motor to service the rest (unless I am missing something).
I made an illustration, but haven’t posted it.
Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 1/19/18, Steve Bode stevenmbode@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, January 19, 2018, 11:52 AM


 









Hi everyone,
This is my first email to the group! Please help!
I've serviced all my Lewmar
winches on my 1994 Super Maramu except the big, electric
Lewmar 58s. The service instructions I have tell me that
after removing the drum, remove the screws holding the
center stem to the motor base. I was unable to loosen them.
Blew up a impact driver trying to do so. Left no other
option, I set about trying to remove the entire winch to
bring to the welder who claims he can get those pesky
corroded screws out by welding a bolt to each screw and
using a spanner (wrench) to remove them. So, I've
removed the electric drive and flange that attaches to the
drive shaft sleeve and finally, removed the nuts from the
bolts that pass through the deck. But now I'm
stopped. 
My
questions are:
Anyone
else have this experience? If you have, I'm so sorry.
Let's start a support group.Is the base glued
to the deck or is the sealant just like mortar?
Are there any other components
holding the base to the deck?Any suggestions for
getting under the base and removing the
winch?Should I bang on the screws from
underneath? drive a screw drive under the
base?
Here are some
pictures of my status.
Starboard winch center stem and
drive base immediately after removing the drum:


Underside of the starboard
electric winch:




Steve BodeSV
IntentionAmel SM117Almerimar,
Spainsteve@.../stevebodesanfranc
isco
415-710-6659

Isolated alternators

Sv Garulfo
 

Dear Amelians,

The 12V engine alternator is supposed to be isolated from the engine. I could only find a replacement for that alternator that is not fitted with nylon pieces to provide that isolation and I'm struggling to find a temporary solution to achieve the isolation. 

1. What is the purpose of that isolation ? I suppose it is to protect the engine from corrosion?

2. What are the risks to temporarily mount the alternator without isolation ?


Thanks as always!

Thomas
GARULFO 
Amel 54 #122
Stuck in Union Island, St Vincent & Grenadines


Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

Steve Bode
 

Hi everyone, This is my first email to the group! Please help!

I've serviced all my Lewmar winches on my 1994 Super Maramu except the big, electric Lewmar 58s. The service instructions I have tell me that after removing the drum, remove the screws holding the center stem to the motor base. I was unable to loosen them. Blew up a impact driver trying to do so. Left no other option, I set about trying to remove the entire winch to bring to the welder who claims he can get those pesky corroded screws out by welding a bolt to each screw and using a spanner (wrench) to remove them. So, I've removed the electric drive and flange that attaches to the drive shaft sleeve and finally, removed the nuts from the bolts that pass through the deck. But now I'm stopped. 

My questions are:

Anyone else have this experience? If you have, I'm so sorry. Let's start a support group.
Is the base glued to the deck or is the sealant just like mortar?
Are there any other components holding the base to the deck?
Any suggestions for getting under the base and removing the winch?
Should I bang on the screws from underneath? drive a screw drive under the base?

Here are some pictures of my status.

Starboard winch center stem and drive base immediately after removing the drum:


Underside of the starboard electric winch:





Steve Bode
SV Intention
Amel SM117
Almerimar, Spain
Facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diaphragm Bilge Pump failure.

hanspeter baettig
 

Bonjour JP
I too bought a Vetus Pump Type EMP 140 as a spar part. My old pump from Amel, 25 years old is still working fine.
Questions:
How did you manage the problem from the already installed tubes, 30 mm (1 1/4 inch) old pump, 38 mm ( 1 1/2 inch) new Vetus pump ? Wich connector you used or you chanbe the old tubes to 38 mm ? 
How did you manage the fixation of the new pump ?
Can you send me pics about the installation , fixation ( you need new holes ). Many thanks for your reply.
You can send me the pics to: hanspeter dot baettig at bluemail dot ch

Salutations
HP
SM 16, Tamango 2
Las Palmas

----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
Von : amelyachtowners@...
Datum : 19/01/2018 - 11:36 (MN)
An : amelyachtowners@...
Betreff : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diaphragm Bilge Pump failure.

 

Hi Gang,


Like Gary, I’ve installed a diaphragm pump.  Mine is a Vetus unit and indeed, it does work well…

Jean-Pierre
Sy Eleuthera, SM 007, Panama



On 19 Jan 2018, at 04:09, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I have to say that at first I wasn't too impressed with the 'un-Amel' solution that was installed on Adagio when we got it, but after further review I believe it was a good decision on the part of the P.O.
The original pump has been replaced by a 24v Whale Gusher diaphragm mounted about a meter above the full water level. The hose from the pump run straight down into the sump and has check (standard joker) valves both before and after the pump to prevent loss of prime. I installed new jokers in Feb., 2014 and have not had a lick of trouble since. The pump is easily accessible, a rebuild kit is readily available (although I haven't had to rebuild it yet) and it's 'relatively' inexpensive. 

It probably isn't a fast to pump the bilge as the original one (takes a full minute or so) but it's quiet and I've kind of grown into liking it. Just my 2 cents worth on this kind of project.

Gary W.
SM 209 Adagio
Fethiye, Turkey







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dive Compressor location suggestions.

Porter McRoberts
 

Thank you all for your insights!  
I’ll head to the port helm locker for fitting!  
Porter


On Jan 19, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Eric.

Sorry, the boat info was tiny and hard to see under the photo, but it’s a 54-Hull 152. 
I do think there is a 230 outlet in the aft Laz port side on a ledge there. 
I will check to make absolutely certain it’s not a 24v. 
Where is the 230 outlet in the cockpit locker?
I appreciate your help

Porter
Ibis, Fort Lauderdale
54-152



On Jan 17, 2018, at 12:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

HI,

You did not identify what model boat you have. However, if it is a Super Maramu, the factory mounted it in the port cockpit locker.

Also, looking at the plug on the compressor it seems to be a 220 volt compressor. On my AC panel there is a circuit breaker for the compressor. If I am not mistaken the outlet in the stern locker is a 24 volt outlet , used to inflate your dinghy.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:18 PM
To: smiles bernard smilesbernard@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dive Compressor location suggestions.

 

I’m wondering if the group has suggestions for the location of a dive compressor.

There seems to be a plug in the starboard side aft lazarette, but that puts a lot of weight in the aft, and negates the ability to mount the outboard in the laz.

Delos seems to have it in the engine compartment: I guess they took apart a Bauer.  I have yet to see if it would fit..

I’ve also thought of removing the rather innefectuar dryer and install it forward.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

 

Greatly appreciated.

 

Porter

 

 

 

Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis..com
portermcroberts@...

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dive Compressor location suggestions.

Porter McRoberts
 

Thanks Eric.
Sorry, the boat info was tiny and hard to see under the photo, but it’s a 54-Hull 152. 
I do think there is a 230 outlet in the aft Laz port side on a ledge there. 
I will check to make absolutely certain it’s not a 24v. 
Where is the 230 outlet in the cockpit locker?
I appreciate your help

Porter
Ibis, Fort Lauderdale
54-152



On Jan 17, 2018, at 12:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

HI,

You did not identify what model boat you have. However, if it is a Super Maramu, the factory mounted it in the port cockpit locker.

Also, looking at the plug on the compressor it seems to be a 220 volt compressor. On my AC panel there is a circuit breaker for the compressor. If I am not mistaken the outlet in the stern locker is a 24 volt outlet , used to inflate your dinghy.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:18 PM
To: smiles bernard smilesbernard@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dive Compressor location suggestions.

 

I’m wondering if the group has suggestions for the location of a dive compressor.

There seems to be a plug in the starboard side aft lazarette, but that puts a lot of weight in the aft, and negates the ability to mount the outboard in the laz.

Delos seems to have it in the engine compartment: I guess they took apart a Bauer.  I have yet to see if it would fit..

I’ve also thought of removing the rather innefectuar dryer and install it forward.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

 

Greatly appreciated.

 

Porter

 

 

 

Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bamar Amel Upgrade & New Group Member

Porter McRoberts
 

Re the furlers. Contact PAUL Hrabowski head of Bamar NA.
I just installed 2 new direct drive units. Fantastic
He honored the letter, but again it was October 2017. 
He seemed very interested in making things right. 

1-604-728-7445 he answered this phone number

Porter 
IBIS
Amel 54-152. 



On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:36 PM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Mark & Debbie and welcome to the Amel Family.
 
Bamar put out a letter in February 2017 that they would replace Amel Bamar furlers with their new furlers at a reduced cost, if purchased by 12/31/2017. I made several attempts at contacting them. They would acknowledge receipt of my e-mails but never received an actual response.
 
It is possible that the same offer could be pursued. We would be interested, if they do provide the original offer. I have a copy of their original offer.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bamar Amel Upgrade & New Group Member

 

My wife, Debbie, and I are recent purchasers of an A54 #68 currently in Fort Lauderdale.  We are pleased to be members of such a dedicated community of people that are willing to help each other.  Hopefully we will be able to contribute in the future.

 

The second reason for the post is that we are planning to take advantage of the Bamar Amel upgrade program.  Paul at Bamar USA informed me that if enough people are interested in taking advantage of this program there would be significant cost savings of the furling gear.  If you have any interest please email Paul at the following address:  “paul at bamarUSA dot com”


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale