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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Yes, I am in Le Marin.
Amel does not have gears in stock now. Lead time now for making the gears is many months. We are going to buildup gear teeth by welding. I consider this a temporary fix. 

Vladimir
202 258 1916

On Jan 20, 2018 12:14, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir,

 

Are you still in Le Marin? Amel can fix the motor for you.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

 

 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.

I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

 

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

 

VLADIMIR

SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"

 

 

 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

karkauai
 

Great, Porter!  Joel is trying to put together a dinner Monday night. He said he was going to call you. Hope we get to see you then.
Kent

On Jan 20, 2018, at 07:37, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent!  

We are in Fort Lauderdale for a few more weeks love to get together!  

Porter


Hookah System

karkauai
 

I changed the Subject line...

I bought an oil-less compressor from HarborFreight (pan style, 100psi) for $60 on sale.  With a 50ft hose and used regulator for another $75, I have a hookah system for cleaning the bottom, unfouling the prop, and changing zincs, as well as compressed air for lots of other things.  I run it off of my 1800W 24-110AC inverter.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243

Danny,

My screws holding the center stem to the base are not hex head. They are flat screws. See my photo of the center stem. That rattle gun sounds like a winner. I don't have any dive bottles (yet), so that's a no-go for today. I'm off to the Ferretería to purchase some better penetrating oil, a torch of some kind and a replacement bit for my impact driver and give this another go.

-Bode/s


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

Mark Erdos
 

Vladimir,

 

Are you still in Le Marin? Amel can fix the motor for you.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

 

 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.

I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

 

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

 

VLADIMIR

SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

amelforme
 

Kent and Porter. Call me at the cell number below. I put one too many 4’s in the last message....

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
Office 954-462-5869 
Cell 95;-812-2485

On Jan 20, 2018, at 9:39 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent, Porter, please call me. Nine Five 4 four 8 one two 2485, or text your numbers to me there.

 

Hope to put something together, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

You did not say where you are, but I think you are in the Caribbean. Amel in Martinique probably has the gears in stock and possibly a rebuilt unit: AMEL CARAIBES - AMEL FR <amel.caraibes@...>

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.
I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

VLADIMIR
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"



 




--
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Bamar Amel Upgrade & New Group Member

cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...>
 

I would be interested in this too! Please keep me in the loop.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

amelforme
 

Kent, Porter, please call me. Nine Five 4 four 8 one two 2485, or text your numbers to me there.

 

Hope to put something together, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


HEADSAIL FURLING

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.
I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

VLADIMIR
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

Porter McRoberts
 

Kent!  
We are in Fort Lauderdale for a few more weeks love to get together!  

Porter

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 19, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Welcome to the "Family" Mark & Debbie!  I'm anchoredin South Lake in Hollywood waiting for some parts to arrive.  Hope to be sailing to Bahamas, T&C, then South on Tues or Wed.  Would be happy to buy you a beer/wine/rum if you'd like to get together.  Anybody else in Ft Lauderdale area now?

Joel, are you available for dinner and/or a drink?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


On Jan 18, 2018, at 21:01, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My wife, Debbie, and I are recent purchasers of an A54 #68 currently in Fort Lauderdale.  We are pleased to be members of such a dedicated community of people that are willing to help each other.  Hopefully we will be able to contribute in the future.

 

The second reason for the post is that we are planning to take advantage of the Bamar Amel upgrade program.  Paul at Bamar USA informed me that if enough people are interested in taking advantage of this program there would be significant cost savings of the furling gear.  If you have any interest please email Paul at the following address:  “paul at bamarUSA dot com”


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale



Colour code hull gelcoat of SM 2K

Willem Kroes
 

Hi all owners of SM's 2K,


I am looking for information about the colour code of the white hull of a Super Maramu 2K.  Can anyone provide me with a RAL-code or an Awlgrip number?


I asked Amel, but Maud Touillet told me that Amel used a special gelcoat for these SM's without any colour code.


Looking forward to your reaction,


Willem Kroes


SM2K # 351 "Kavanga" now on the hard in Combarro, Spain




Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Danny,

My screws holding the center stem to the base are not hex head. They are flat screws. See my photo of the center stem. That rattle gun sounds like a winner. I don't have any dive bottles (yet), so that's a no-go for today. I'm off to the Ferretería to purchase some better penetrating oil, a torch of some kind and a replacement bit for my impact driver and give this another go.

-Bode/s


Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

karkauai
 

Welcome to the "Family" Mark & Debbie!  I'm anchoredin South Lake in Hollywood waiting for some parts to arrive.  Hope to be sailing to Bahamas, T&C, then South on Tues or Wed.  Would be happy to buy you a beer/wine/rum if you'd like to get together.  Anybody else in Ft Lauderdale area now?

Joel, are you available for dinner and/or a drink?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


On Jan 18, 2018, at 21:01, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My wife, Debbie, and I are recent purchasers of an A54 #68 currently in Fort Lauderdale.  We are pleased to be members of such a dedicated community of people that are willing to help each other.  Hopefully we will be able to contribute in the future.

 

The second reason for the post is that we are planning to take advantage of the Bamar Amel upgrade program.  Paul at Bamar USA informed me that if enough people are interested in taking advantage of this program there would be significant cost savings of the furling gear.  If you have any interest please email Paul at the following address:  “paul at bamarUSA dot com”


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help [2 Attachments]

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Steve,

I've been there. Fortunately the screws are hex head. You can get a hex head bit that  fits in what we call a rattle gun. These are the usually air driven drivers that are used to remove wheel nuts on cars and trucks, also for any hard to undo fastenings. Nothing else moved mine. With the rattle gun, instant success. I have an air hose off a dive bottle that allows me to use any air tools, paint spray guns etc on the boat. When you use the rattle gun take care, apply in short squirts. As well as air operated now you can get cordless electrical as well.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 20 January 2018 at 12:08 "steve_bode@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre,

Got your picture, and understand that I should be able to remove the screws holding the center stem to the motor base. However, the center stem has not been removed (I think) ever and the bolts must be really seized. I broke a heavy-duty impact driver trying to get them out. Based on Bill's comment about a torch flame, I may buy a new impact drive and a torch and give that a shot. But I serious doubt that will do it.

Any one ever remove an Lewmar electric winch from a deck?

Steve Bode
Amel SM117



---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas


 


 


Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Alexandre,
Got your picture, and understand that I should be able to remove the screws holding the center stem to the motor base. However, the center stem has not been removed (I think) ever and the bolts must be really seized. I broke a heavy-duty impact driver trying to get them out. Based on Bill's comment about a torch flame, I may buy a new impact drive and a torch and give that a shot. But I serious doubt that will do it.

Any one ever remove an Lewmar electric winch from a deck?

Steve Bode
Amel SM117



---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas



Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

greatketch@...
 

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas



Re: Isolated alternators

greatketch@...
 

Thomas,

There are two significantly different types of alternators, depending on where the how the return circuit to the battery negative is made.

In a "case grounded" alternator there is usually an attachment on the alternator for the battery Positive wire ONLY.  The connection back to the battery Negative is through the alternator external case, and then through the engine block.  This will not work on an Amel because the engine block is not continuously connected to the battery negative. These are the common alternators used on automobiles.  

Occasionally, this type of "case grounded" alternator has a connection for a battery negative cable on it.  The way to check if your alternator is "case grounded" is to look for continuity between the Negative terminal on the alternator and the the alternator's external case. If the alternator is "case grounded" it will show near zero ohms on this path.  It is not suitable for an Amel UNLESS the case is electrically isolated from the engine block with the plastic inserts.  Putting one of these on an Amel without the isolation parts will make a continuous direct connection between the bonding system (connected to the engine) and the battery negative (connected to the alternator case).  This eliminates the "floating negative" that the Amel was designed with.  It would put all the underwater parts of the boat at risk for stray current corrosion.

The other type of alternator with an "isolated ground" has connections for both battery Positive and battery Negative on the alternator.  This is the best type of alternator, and hopefully the one you have.  On this type of alternator, if you test the resistance between the Negative terminal and the case you will see an open circuit--no connection.  If you have this type of alternator, it can be installed safely without the plastic isolation parts since it is already electrically isolated from its mount to the engine.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Steve,
I assume you are a new owner, so welcome to the group!
Be careful with listening to what others can do, if the part break, it is not going to be out of their pocket… I would be afraid the bold break in half…
How about letting it soak in ZEP 45 or any high quality penetrating oil then keep trying…
If the picture you posted is your last step, you can remove the gear, then the base.
You do not need to remove the electric motor to service the rest (unless I am missing something).
I made an illustration, but haven’t posted it.
Alexandre




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On Fri, 1/19/18, Steve Bode stevenmbode@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, January 19, 2018, 11:52 AM


 









Hi everyone,
This is my first email to the group! Please help!
I've serviced all my Lewmar
winches on my 1994 Super Maramu except the big, electric
Lewmar 58s. The service instructions I have tell me that
after removing the drum, remove the screws holding the
center stem to the motor base. I was unable to loosen them.
Blew up a impact driver trying to do so. Left no other
option, I set about trying to remove the entire winch to
bring to the welder who claims he can get those pesky
corroded screws out by welding a bolt to each screw and
using a spanner (wrench) to remove them. So, I've
removed the electric drive and flange that attaches to the
drive shaft sleeve and finally, removed the nuts from the
bolts that pass through the deck. But now I'm
stopped. 
My
questions are:
Anyone
else have this experience? If you have, I'm so sorry.
Let's start a support group.Is the base glued
to the deck or is the sealant just like mortar?
Are there any other components
holding the base to the deck?Any suggestions for
getting under the base and removing the
winch?Should I bang on the screws from
underneath? drive a screw drive under the
base?
Here are some
pictures of my status.
Starboard winch center stem and
drive base immediately after removing the drum:


Underside of the starboard
electric winch:




Steve BodeSV
IntentionAmel SM117Almerimar,
Spainsteve@.../stevebodesanfranc
isco
415-710-6659


Isolated alternators

Sv Garulfo
 

Dear Amelians,

The 12V engine alternator is supposed to be isolated from the engine. I could only find a replacement for that alternator that is not fitted with nylon pieces to provide that isolation and I'm struggling to find a temporary solution to achieve the isolation. 

1. What is the purpose of that isolation ? I suppose it is to protect the engine from corrosion?

2. What are the risks to temporarily mount the alternator without isolation ?


Thanks as always!

Thomas
GARULFO 
Amel 54 #122
Stuck in Union Island, St Vincent & Grenadines