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Quick question on desalator membrane replacement
Porter McRoberts
If someone who has any experience changing membranes could watch this video and give me any quick advice I would be hugely appreciative
The question surrounds which end of the membrane (ie the O ring end on the membrane) corresponds to regarding the fitting end in the Kevlar sleeve and especially to the tube fitting end. The hydrolic end or the Bobbin end? Very much appreciated!!!! Porter McRoberts Ibis Amel 54-152 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OJEI0Z__bc Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.com Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Diameter Reling
greatketch@...
25mm
Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Sandy Point, Great Abaco, Bahamas
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Genoa Winch Due Winch Drawing 150 Amps
eric freedman
Hi , What model and size winch do you have? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:31 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Genoa Winch Due Winch Drawing 150 Amps
I have a 1995 SM currently located in Trinidad. About a year ago my port side genoa winch began making sounds like it was working hard. When running it was slower than the starboard side winch and draws 150 amps while the starboard side draws 30 amps. It works fine manually. While in South Africa and later here in Trinidad I tried to remove the gearbox under the winch to see if it was all gunked up. Twice in these countries the yard put a hydraulic puller on the gearbox and left it overnight, but could not break it free from the winch above it. Apparently, the gear that sticks up into the Lewmar winch is galvanically corroded and has merged with the winch. I recently decided it might just be the motor that is bad, so I removed it this morning in about 10 minutes (amazing!) and I will have a specialist determine if it is bad or needs overhaul or whatever.
Question: 1. Has anyone else had trouble removing the gearbox from the genoa winch and if so how did you get it off (if you ever did)? 2. Do the symptoms jibe with a motor problem as opposed to a gearbox problem?
Any comments appreciated.
Bill Shaproski S/V Pacific Cool
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Diameter Reling
Hi Amelians
Could anyone tell me the diameter of a SM 's reling, unfortunately I am not on the boat. Thank you Peter
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Inability To Remove Port Genoa Winch Due Winch Drawing 150 Amps
pacificcool@...
I have a 1995 SM currently located in Trinidad. About a year ago my port side genoa winch began making sounds like it was working hard. When running it was slower than the starboard side winch and draws 150 amps while the starboard side draws 30 amps. It works fine manually. While in South Africa and later here in Trinidad I tried to remove the gearbox under the winch to see if it was all gunked up. Twice in these countries the yard put a hydraulic puller on the gearbox and left it overnight, but could not break it free from the winch above it. Apparently, the gear that sticks up into the Lewmar winch is galvanically corroded and has merged with the winch. I recently decided it might just be the motor that is bad, so I removed it this morning in about 10 minutes (amazing!) and I will have a specialist determine if it is bad or needs overhaul or whatever. Question: 1. Has anyone else had trouble removing the gearbox from the genoa winch and if so how did you get it off (if you ever did)? 2. Do the symptoms jibe with a motor problem as opposed to a gearbox problem? Any comments appreciated. Bill Shaproski S/V Pacific Cool
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Re: Wanted: Amel sharki
Philippe Morel
Hello , there are 2 for sale on internet site : www.leboncoin .
One in Cogolin , close to St Tropez , Asked price 68 k€ One in Solenzara ( Corse ) , asked price 80 k€ Both can be negociate . Philippe Belavita n238
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip
James Alton
Christian Alby,
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Do you know the exact P/N for the original oil pump in your Perkins engine? Ebay shows that the pump listed by tacomadiesel 1969 was sold Jan. 24th at 10:41 AM for $60 USD. James SV Sueño Maramu #220
On Jan 25, 2018, at 11:53 AM, christian alby calbyy@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: HEADSAIL FURLING
VLADIMIR SONSEV
Miles, I will be in Le Marin. I am on dock 5 slip 573. Stop buy. Vladimir 202 258 1916
On Jan 25, 2018 10:57, "'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leece Neville 175 A 24v alternator
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Nick, I agree with Bill Rouse. The exiteation circuit will be faulty. I have seen just these symptoms across a number of applications over many years. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand
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Re :Re: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marinas in Cartagena / Colombia
christian alby <calbyy@...>
Whoops !
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Hope I did not send you guys off your course to Colombia, chasing coordinates in the Med. Wrong time to cross anyway, SW nort settled. If ever on the way to the Med do not miss the Spanish one; worth the trip, heavy with antique history. Fair winds
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Re :Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip
christian alby <calbyy@...>
Hi there James,Pump shown on ebay from tacomadiesel 1969 is similar to previous pumps P/N 41314114.Worth a try if not sold already.I am still trying the Prevalent supply via www.getezone-saint lucia; new to the game there I am still chasing them to know if transaction is valid or missing some hidden step.Will let you knowFair windsChristian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - le Marin Martinique
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Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android
Le jeu., janv. 25, 2018 à 12:53, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com [amelyachtowners]<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
Christian Alby, This link should show you the details and a photo of the oil pump that sold yesterday on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkins-Oil-Pump-/162047206348?epid=1666806067&;hash=item25bac423cc%3Ag%3AERQAAOSwPc9W1hX7&nma=true&si=W3eCbTcEMLa7SbrtDwkjy5OzDVc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 If this link does not work let me know. Please let me know if the photo looks like the correct pump to you. The seller had a 100% rating so I believe that this was a valid transaction and a lucky find, sorry that we missed it. I have not heard anything back from Prevalent from my email inquiries and my attempt to purchase the two pumps. Checking into the website, though the company checks out through Google transparency, I think that it is very unlikely that they have any actual pumps in stock ever. If I hear back otherwise I will attempt to complete the purchase for two pumps. I will set up an alert on Ebay in case any additional used or new pumps show up. It would be helpful if you can help insure that the part #41314114 is indeed the correct pump if at all possible. Best, JamesSV SueñoMaramu #220 On Jan 24, 2018, at 12:59 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Christian Alby, I just saw your email. The pump on Ebay has been sold, bad timing there. I have placed an order for two pumps thru Prevalent but have not yet received a confirmation either in my browser or via email so not sure yet of what is wrong. No need to pay for my pump, but thank you for that. I just hope that this company actually has stock and that these are the correct pumps for our engines. I will update you when I have more information. Best, JamesMaramu #220 On Jan 24, 2018, at 11:30 AM, christian alby calbyy@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: hi there James tried the eBay code but Zero results reply ... losttried purchase from Prévalent-first but cannot complete registration ...tried to purchase via getezone site ... no reply yet As I do not want to lose one of those pumps I would ask you to purchase both & sell back one to me, I will pay for both - bank transfer to your account - and arrange with you for shipment of one to me in Martinique. Soon as mounted I will confirm if OK & then you can reimburse the one you chose. Your help is really appreciated there fair winds christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Le Marin Martinique 23 janvier 2018 17:00:25 -04, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> a écrit : Christian Alby, Can you verify if the correct Perkins part number for the oil pump you need is #41314114? If so then I may have found two sources for new surplus oil pumps. One is located on the website at: https://www.prevalent-first.top/perkins-4-154-oil-pump-41314114-cf-bedford-marine-engine-p-5822.html. I am thinking ordering one for myself as a spare if this information looks correct to you.. The other pump is located on Ebay, item #162047206348. The Ebay ad shows part #41314114 and says that this pump fits the 4.154. Fingers crossed that this helps.. I also have some inquiries in for a used pump. Best, JamesSV SueñoMaramu #220 162047206348 On Jan 23, 2018, at 3:06 PM, christian alby calbyy@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: James Thanks for assistance I do not remember the way the gear is fixed but will try to see from pictures taken.The non-marine version -perkins made, not the kubota look alike - has the same oil pump.Fair windChristian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in le Marin Martinique Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android Le mar., janv. 23, 2018 à 15:33, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com [amelyachtowners]<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> a écrit : Christian Alby, I have been keeping my eye out for a replacement pump for you but so far no luck.. I think that you are correct that the worn pump is at least part of what is causing the lower than normal oil pressure. The sudden drop of oil pressure to 0 when you reach 2000 RPM is very strange and I have been pondering a possible cause. It makes me think that somehow the pump gear has sopped stopped turning. Did you notice if any of the gears on your oil pump are pinned to the shaft? I have seen some oil pumps secured with pins but am not sure about the Perkins 4.154, hence this is just an educated guess. If one of these pins were to shear from the engine runaway and lack of lubrication which you said occurred when the engine failed, you might still have enough friction present to drive the pump gear at low engine speeds but it could then begin to slip. Replacement of that pin (if it exists) might solve the problem with the sudden loss of oil pressure. Please let me know if you someday figure out what is the actual cause of this sudden loss of oil pressure. I will post here if I am able to find another pump. Can you tell me from your research if the non-marine version of the 4-154 has the same oil pump as your engine? JamesSV SueñoMaramu #220 On Jan 23, 2018, at 8:15 AM, christian alby calbyy@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Miles, The voice of Volvo D2/55 la 3 fold Available immediatly in Martinique.Do not want a turbo on my marine engine, useless & more prone to failures.Recent model , widely spread, will find parts for a while. Against volvoTied up with agents for service & parts.Price ... I still might give up on replacement here in martinique & keep on looking for an oil pump to do repairs, then sail to better deal location. Note : old faithful M 4.154 is still reliable & so easy to run & maintain. Regrets Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in le Marin Martinique. Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android Le mar., janv. 23, 2018 à 8:37, smiles bernard smilesbernard@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners]<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> a écrit : Hi there Christian As a fellow maramu owner with an older engine I’d be interested in your thoughts about the Volvo D2/55 as a replacement vs other alternatives.. Size, simplicity, cost etc? What led you to choose the Volvo? Many thanks and best wishes Miles On 21 Jan 2018, at 14:29, christian alby calbyy@yahoo.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks for concern & assistance Billguess all the advice & analysis of fault helped me come to the conclusion (already uderstood & applied before) that there is no shortcut when repairing engines or sailing boats. Oil pump is at fault - 100% surecamshaft is unllikely eve though showing some wear on,poppets. I am now in Le Marin, waiting for a firm quote on one Volvo D2/55 available for fit up ... on solution even though unplanned this year;I am also looking for one Perkins Oil pump ..... could replace in situ at no great cost & would postpone replacement by new engine to 2019 or back to Europ in April & do a change over of engines with Perkins or else ... Selling back my 'Old Faithful' fair winds chrsitian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Le Marin Martinique Le dimanche 31 décembre 2017 12:53:11 -04, greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com> a écrit : Christian, I am afraid I have no good ideas that match your symptoms! Since you have both the gauge and alarm reporting low pressure, I have to assume it is real and not a problem with the measurement. Sometimes low oil level can cause low pressure at high rpm as the pump sucks so much oil out of the crankcase it sucks air, but you checked that. A stuck open pressure relief valve that resets itself when the engine shuts down could be an an issue, but that seems unlikely. Maybe someone else has an idea or two... in any event do let us know what the solution turns out to be! Bill KinneySM160, HarmonieKey West, FL ---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, <calbyy@....> wrote : Here is Yes - oil pressure gauge and l'os pressure alarme onWhen oil pressure below 1 bar, alarme néesOil pressure drops quickly at 2000 rpmOil pressure remains stable when low or normalOil pressure remains low when reducing speed from 2000 No loss of oil single de started. Ran 1hour maneuvring in port at 1300 rpm at 2 bars, went To idle after 1 hour at 700 rpm with 1.1 bar oil pressure.Did not risk acceleration. Thks for assiste Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Carbo Verde Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android Le dim., déc. 31, 2017 à 14:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> a écrit : Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me. There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm? If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm? Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly? 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Wanted: Amel sharki
Marnne Beech
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to buy a Sharki and wondered if anyone knew of any for sale. I am based in London and the only one I can find in Europe currently is in Greece, so quite the sail back home. Also any info on major things to look out for when buying a Sharki would be very much appreciated. Cheers, Marnne
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Re: HEADSAIL FURLING
Miles
Hi Vladimir, Are you still in Le Marin? I will be there after Monday. Maybe Amel will deal with the gear maker for us and for other Amel owners who want to replace their gears once Oliver gets the parts list. Regards, Miles Ladybug sm 216 Martinique
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leece Neville 175 A 24v alternator
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Nick, I don't know the ratio of RPM ftom the alternator to the engine, but as I recall it, I would guess about 3:1. If it is 3:1 the alternator would turn at 1800 when the engine is at 600. Regardless of the ratio, I believe yours should excite when the engine starts. I had that same alternator for 11 years. My engine idled at about 600 RPM. The alternator would excite as soon as the engine started. The one time that it didn't, I had an alarm and red light on the 24 Volt panel. My issue was a loose wire connection on the alternator excite relay, which I described in an earlier email. BTW, the alternator would not put out much amperage until the engine RPM was more than about 1400. I hope this helps you and you get it resolved. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Jan 25, 2018 07:38, "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leece Neville 175 A 24v alternator
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Thanks to everyone for your comments. My impression is that it used to kick in at low rpm on the engine but now needs 1500. So my conclusion is that the excitation circuit has a minor fault but that it self excites at higher rpm, and then once excited it charges as it should even if one throttles back to idle (700 rpm) although obviously at a low output. There may be other things going on, like the residual magnetism has been lost. On my last boat this happened and I "flashed" the alternator as described by Nigel Calder which sorted it out. Thing is, I am in the UK for the next few months and can not play around with it.
This is a great group, lots of knowledge out there! Thanks Nick S/Y Amelia Amel 54 hull 019
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leece Neville 175 A 24v alternator
Nick,
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The spec sheet on that alternator says the cut-in RPM is 2000 (that's the alternator's rpm, which is faster than the engine's in proportion to pulley size), so it sounds like all is normal. You don't say if it works fine after it cuts in, but if so it sounds like your alternator is working as it should. Was there some new or different odd behavior that prompted your question and makes you suspect there is a problem? Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN#68 (Btw, on my Perkins factory standard alternator there's a timing circuit that delays cut-in to avoid presenting a high load to the engine on starting.) ---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote : Nick Yes, I believe any alternator will self-excite at higher revs. One side of the relay has 12VDVC input when the engine start switch is turned to ON. The other side of the relay switches ON 24VDC to excite the alternator. It is likely a loose or dirty connection on the relay. Some Amels had the red warning light for the alternator wired in series with the excite circuit, and if that bulb were burned-out, the alternator will not excite. To be on the safe side, check that bulb, which on a SM is located on the bottom left of the 24 Volt panel. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins M 4 .154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip
James Alton
Christian Alby,
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This link should show you the details and a photo of the oil pump that sold yesterday on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkins-Oil-Pump-/162047206348?epid=1666806067&;hash=item25bac423cc%3Ag%3AERQAAOSwPc9W1hX7&nma=true&si=W3eCbTcEMLa7SbrtDwkjy5OzDVc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 If this link does not work let me know. Please let me know if the photo looks like the correct pump to you. The seller had a 100% rating so I believe that this was a valid transaction and a lucky find, sorry that we missed it. I have not heard anything back from Prevalent from my email inquiries and my attempt to purchase the two pumps. Checking into the website, though the company checks out through Google transparency, I think that it is very unlikely that they have any actual pumps in stock ever. If I hear back otherwise I will attempt to complete the purchase for two pumps. I will set up an alert on Ebay in case any additional used or new pumps show up. It would be helpful if you can help insure that the part #41314114 is indeed the correct pump if at all possible. Best, James SV Sueño Maramu #220
On Jan 24, 2018, at 12:59 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@aol.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G sonic speed for sale
your e-mail address broke my computer :(
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:59 AM, kwzy6vgkpvtfohjddjsrotobzwf2pjeafjwalhur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leece Neville 175 A 24v alternator
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Nick Yes, I believe any alternator will self-excite at higher revs. One side of the relay has 12VDVC input when the engine start switch is turned to ON. The other side of the relay switches ON 24VDC to excite the alternator. It is likely a loose or dirty connection on the relay. Some Amels had the red warning light for the alternator wired in series with the excite circuit, and if that bulb were burned-out, the alternator will not excite. To be on the safe side, check that bulb, which on a SM is located on the bottom left of the 24 Volt panel. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Jan 24, 2018 12:49, "kwzy6vgkpvtfohjddjsrotobzwf2pjeafjwalhur@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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B&G sonic speed for sale
kwzy6vgkpvtfohjddjsrotobzwf2pjeafjwalhur@...
I replaced my sonic speed for paddle wheel type as the sonic sensors failed, and I did not feel like digging the old out and re-glassing new ones. I have the old sonic speed main control box that was returned to A & T instruments in the UK for a check and found to be in perfect order. I would like to offer this control unit for sale. I have the paperwork from A&T. Nick S/Y Amelia (located Antigua) but I am in the UK with the sonic speed controller. Could send it anywhere.
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