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dinghy on deck during passages

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Hello again,


I am looking at recommendations regarding storing the dinghy on deck for longer passages.  I have seen various options and photos with the dinghy forward or aft on the sundeck but would like to get recommendation from your experiences while crossing.  


Stella has original davits but they look flimsy and I am not comfortable for them to be used offshore, (I plan to use them to take the dinghy out while at anchorage at night. or short good weather sailing)


Stella SM359



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster won't come up

Bob Grey
 

Duane, I have an Amel 55 and had to replace a magnetic limit switch on my  dingy Davits due to workers at a yard respooling my winch in reverse. It didn’t stop before crushing the switch.

The switch was an RS electronics model but no longer available, so I spent some research time evaluating options, Amel in the end found an old one in stock. I originally thought it was a Hall effect sensor but found out it was a glass red switch with changeover contacts, with only the normally closed contacts wired in.

Thus my confidence in making the statement that magnetic based glass reed switches come in 3 versions, normally open closing when a magnet field is applied, change over (NO/COM//NC) and NC opening when a magnetic field is applied as it only wires in the NC/COM contacts of a changeover switch.

Bob Grey 

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018, 03:01, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Bob,


I posted in https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Bow%20Thruster%20Maintenance/ in the FFV.pdf file the manufacturers sheet for the linear actuator switch.  I believe ours is the 4th switch from the right.  I also posted photos of the linear actuator switch and the control board (front and back) in https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/161606487

I don't see that this is a 3 contact switch, it only has two wires coming from it.  Do you have something other than the Super Maramu?  Maybe your setup is different.  You will note on the photo of the switch the little switch symbol shows it as a normally closed switch, and you will see the same icon in the FFV.pdf file from the manufacturers literature, and listed as a normally closed switch.

I opened up the black plastic casing and there is a circuit board inside.  I'm not an electronics guy but there are gizmos on the board that are likely transisitors, resistors, and the reed switch.  I could post photos of that if there is any interest.

The disconcerting thing about this is that a simple reed switch should show continuity either with a magnet (normally open), or without a magnet (normally closed).  This switch does not show continuity with or without a magnet, leading me to believe there must be power present for the switch to operate.  I had an electronics tech in the marina verify my tests and he agreed.  We oriented the magnet in all directions and reversed the leads fo the multimeter to possibly account for polarity.  Taking into account the fact that the symbology on the switch identifies it as a normally closed switch, and it does not show continuity, there must be an electromagnet or some other means to close the switch for the "normal" position so that the magnet on the actuator can open the circuit.

Takeaway:  order it from Maude or the factory.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Support for Liferaft on rails

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Hello,


I would like to add an elegant support for the liferaft on the rails, any body has a recommendation for this?  

The idea is;

- to make it easier to launch in case of emergency.  (I find that going into the locker is rather unpleasant event during an emergency!

- to save the locker for other types of storage


Re: Wind generator

Miles
 

Hi Paul,

 

I am on my second Air X on top of the mizzen.  Like the Super Wind (I think) it is internally regulated to slow down before it reaches a speed at which the blades distort and make noise.  It is fine in any wind and needs no adjustments.  I mounted it on an aluminum post that I had made in Trinidad.  The post is on an aluminum base with four gussets.  The base is the size of the mizzen top so lots of room for bolts.  I mounted it on a piece of hard rubber and used 6 isolated bolts (from old ford front struts)  to attach to the top so no discernable noise or vibration down the mast.  It has withstood everything, including a hurricane with winds around 75 knots.  With it, I run the generator about half as much, and down here in Martinique it supplies more.  I also like to use the mizzen staysail, so I never considered a mount on the mast.

 

Regards,

 

Miles  S/Y Ladybug,  SM 216,  Le Marin, Martinique

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Good afternoon, re your windgenerator. I don’t want to fit a generator permanently but having just suffered a bad experience via someone (not) looking after my yacht whilst I was absent for five months , I have been given thought to the need to charge the batteries, hence my thinking I could hang the unit from the rigging whilst I was absent. Then I could store it till needed again.
Of course this still leaves the problem of topping up the battery water.
I want to avoid using shore power which seems un reliable.
Can you give me an idea of price and where it is presently, in your opinion could the generator be adapted to hang from the rigging?

Regards Patrick Caramelle #385.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Alan,

there is no doubt our opinions are coloured by our personal experience. Having taken 4 years to get your D400 working properly.... I would have used it as a sinker long ago. On a pedestal they are in your face too. My opinion is coloured by nine trouble free years with the super wind out of sight and sound on top of the mizzen just pumping in those amps. However, under 10 knots apparent there is little input, but once you have 20 knots apparent it really starts pumping.  Also you have put the big arch on and have the large solar array. I prefer the minimalist approach with just two panels on the port rail. And I like the cover, sunny and still, I have solar, cloudy and windy, I have wind gen. Windy and sunny, wow.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl


On 06 February 2018 at 23:54 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have a D400 on a pedestal on the port side...and while it does put in some amps, compared to our 600W solar panels, it's nothing
Personally I wouldn't bother with a wind generator, no matter where it'situated.
We inherited ours and after 4 years we have finally got it working properly, but for all the effort, and expense, it contributes swfa 

Anyone want to buy a 24V D400 generator and a brand new regulator,all working,contact me...!
Cheers
Alan 
Elyse SM437

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Turbo rebuild

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Pat, that is incredibly cheap. Well done.

Danny

On 07 February 2018 at 08:43 "sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

I sent my turbo out to be rebuilt and just got it back , it looks like new , I feel they did a great job and the price was good , so I thought I would put their info out there in the event someone needs to have their turbo rebuilt. XS Boost Turbochargers , Owner Dave - 1 330 830 4075 in Massillon Ohio . Turbo and wastegate rebuild _ $385.00 including shipping.

Pat

SM#123

 


 


Turbo rebuild

Patrick McAneny
 

I sent my turbo out to be rebuilt and just got it back , it looks like new , I feel they did a great job and the price was good , so I thought I would put their info out there in the event someone needs to have their turbo rebuilt. XS Boost Turbochargers , Owner Dave - 1 330 830 4075 in Massillon Ohio . Turbo and wastegate rebuild _ $385.00 including shipping.

Pat

SM#123


Anni Bea True, SM180 for sale

Will Stout <tango708@...>
 

Hello Group,
Rebecca and I are moving on to the next stage of live.  After living aboard for 24 years the last four on Anni Bea True, we are going to transition and sell Anni Bea True.  She is a super Super Maramu.  She has been well cared for by all her previous owners.  She is in Martinique bu we will be taking her N with the Salty Dawg Rally.  ABT was repowered with a Yanmar 4JH4-HTE 110 hp turbo diesel and presently has 1,076 engine hours.  The rigging was replaced in 2015 by Nance Underwood in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.   the Onan 6.5 kw has 3,000 hrs.  If interested call me at 206-841-9556 or email at wtstout at mac dot com.

Warm Regards,

Will Stout
SM 180
Martinique


raise water line

Maria Geiger
 

Hello,

We would like to raise the waterline of PITU.

Once I saw on this forum a picture or drawing about this subjet and the colors...

Can someone advice me about this? 


Thank you in advance


Maria Geiger

SY PITU


Re: Maramu: Location for watermaker

Alejandro Paquin
 

Good morning Miles, I have a neighbour with a 1981 Maramu with a watermaker installed in the forward cabin closet, this is closest point to salt water connections, drains, electrical power and water tank. I don´t have one, yet!!

Alex
Maramu 1981
Naiguatá, Venezuela 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ann-Sofie. I am repeating myself here. The super wind has no noise and no vibration, and in nine years I have not once had any adjustments to make or service needed. Probably why they are twice the price of alternatives.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 06 February 2018 at 22:04 "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

We hade similar plans, to install the wind gen on top of the mizzen. But now we are glad we glad didn't. The blades needs to be adjusted very often, and it is not that fun to climb the mast. Also, the resonance through the mast can be very enoying, unless you find a solution for it.

/Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

5 feb. 2018 kl. 16:31 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

 

We plan to install a wind generator probably a Rutland 1200 on top of the mizzen mast.

 

We are currently not at the boat (Georgetown Maryland) and wonder if someone know how the top of the mizzenmast look like? Measures? Is it easy access to put nuts and bolts through the top to bolt the wind generator? Any advise from someone who have made that before would be appreciated. There is a mounting kit in aluminium available for 499 $ looks expensive to me, thinking of having one made in 316 SS would probably be less cost. Weight a loft is of course an issue.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos Portugal


 

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We hade similar plans, to install the wind gen on top of the mizzen. But now we are glad we glad didn't. The blades needs to be adjusted very often, and it is not that fun to climb the mast. Also, the resonance through the mast can be very enoying, unless you find a solution for it.

/Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

5 feb. 2018 kl. 16:31 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

We plan to install a wind generator probably a Rutland 1200 on top of the mizzen mast.

We are currently not at the boat (Georgetown Maryland) and wonder if someone know how the top of the mizzenmast look like? Measures? Is it easy access to put nuts and bolts through the top to bolt the wind generator? Any advise from someone who have made that before would be appreciated. There is a mounting kit in aluminium available for 499 $ looks expensive to me, thinking of having one made in 316 SS would probably be less cost. Weight a loft is of course an issue.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos Portugal



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul, try again for the photos. They are here
You probably have worked it out that for me there is one and one only wind generator for the mizzen top. Super wind 350
Likewise, one and only one place for it on the mizzen, on top. Mounted elsewhere??? You can get away with lesser units, but why would you.
Regards
Danny

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

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From: "simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 6 Feb 2018 9:16 a.m.
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator
To: "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: 

 

Hi Paul, herewith two photos of the mounting for the super wind for the mizzen top.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 6 Feb 2018 07:39, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Paul, we have had a Super Wind 350 on top of the mizzen for 9 years. It is super quiet and importantly has a blade feathering system that comes in progressively as the wind gets stronger so it doesn't fly to pieces in a gale or hurricane.It weighs about 8 kg.  Our SM 299 has a flat top to the mizzen with a plate that extends beyond the edges of the mast allowing four bolts to secure the generator mast. You need to put some insertion rubber sheet (ours is about 3mm thick) between the generator mast and the mizzen to damp vibration. I will post a photo later as we have the generator off for its first ever service.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 06 February 2018 at 05:30 "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

We plan to install a wind generator probably a Rutland 1200 on top of the mizzen mast.

 

We are currently not at the boat (Georgetown Maryland) and wonder if someone know how the top of the mizzenmast look like? Measures? Is it easy access to put nuts and bolts through the top to bolt the wind generator? Any advise from someone who have made that before would be appreciated. There is a mounting kit in aluminium available for 499 $ looks expensive to me, thinking of having one made in 316 SS would probably be less cost. Weight a loft is of course an issue.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos Portugal


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul, try again for the photos. They are here
You probably have worked it out that for me there is one and one only wind generator for the mizzen top. Super wind 350
Likewise, one and only one place for it on the mizzen, on top. Mounted elsewhere??? You can get away with lesser units, but why would you.
Regards
Danny

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 6 Feb 2018 9:16 a.m.
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator
To: "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: 

 

Hi Paul, herewith two photos of the mounting for the super wind for the mizzen top.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 6 Feb 2018 07:39, "Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Paul, we have had a Super Wind 350 on top of the mizzen for 9 years. It is super quiet and importantly has a blade feathering system that comes in progressively as the wind gets stronger so it doesn't fly to pieces in a gale or hurricane.It weighs about 8 kg.  Our SM 299 has a flat top to the mizzen with a plate that extends beyond the edges of the mast allowing four bolts to secure the generator mast. You need to put some insertion rubber sheet (ours is about 3mm thick) between the generator mast and the mizzen to damp vibration. I will post a photo later as we have the generator off for its first ever service.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 06 February 2018 at 05:30 "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

We plan to install a wind generator probably a Rutland 1200 on top of the mizzen mast.

 

We are currently not at the boat (Georgetown Maryland) and wonder if someone know how the top of the mizzenmast look like? Measures? Is it easy access to put nuts and bolts through the top to bolt the wind generator? Any advise from someone who have made that before would be appreciated. There is a mounting kit in aluminium available for 499 $ looks expensive to me, thinking of having one made in 316 SS would probably be less cost. Weight a loft is of course an issue.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos Portugal


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul,
I did several posts, maybe you haven't checked them all
I sent it from my phone, and as a member I received it in my inbox with photos so they should be there.
Regards
Danny

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 6 Feb 2018 10:56 a.m., "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny!

Thank you for input.
Can*t find any photos

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Mark Garver
 

Paul,

Good point! Thanks I never thought about using a sock!

Best,
Mark 
S/V It’s Good
Amen SM #105


On Feb 5, 2018, at 5:02 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mark

That the concern i have when placing the wind generator half way up the mizzen the problem to fly the mizzen balooner, maybe by adding a sock to the balooner the risk of having it into the windgenerator decrease and that one need to put the generator at rest  but that no issue as usually very little effect from the wind generator when condition for the mizzen balooner,

Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wet Cell Batteries

Dan Carlson
 

"End of life" of lead acid batts is a good question.  I would think that it is some relation to the banks ability meet your daily energy needs.  Perhaps getting thru the night and still being at a 50% state of charge in the am would be one value? Or some other value based on personal comfort (i.e.are you close to marinas and services or are you heading fare off shore...).    I think that with your solar capacity and generator, you can push your batteries close to that before replacing.  You can estimate state of charge in the morning before the sun gets up by the bank voltage. You can corroborate this periodically with SG measurements.

I monitor my batteries pretty much daily now by checking the bank voltage at 6:30am (before getting solar input), and noting the current load and my overnight consumption  (amp/hrs on the meter).  

I think another good question is battery bank capacity.  Our SM's were sizes up with 12 batteries when the extra freezer was added, and that was before solar. With significant solar charging throughout the day, do we really need 630 amp/hrs when you are using less than 10% overnight?  So based on this you can afford to remove a pair or two of bad batteries before you would need to replace the rest of your bank.

Sorry for the delayed response. We are off sailing.

Best regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387. 








On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:39 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Dan,


Thanks for the informative reply.  

I had tried to upload a spreadsheet with our SG readings in it, but Yahoo was acting up.  I tried again in this reply, but it won't upload the attachment.  The average SG was 1.226 with a low cell of 1.215 and a high cell of 1.445.  

I think I'm probably going to have to remove the pair that has the low SG reading battery in it from the wiring.  I won't pull the batteries out of the box since they make for a nice tight fit.

The batteries were new in August of 2016, so they're less than two years old.  The next time I replace the batteries, I'm going to replace the charger as well.  Having a charger that will equalize the batteries, and has adjustable charging voltages, only makes sense.  The cost of the battery charger is about equal to new batteries so it's an investment, but we plan to keep the boat a few more years.

I'm still wondering when you replace the entire suite of batteries?  The lower limit of the "fair" range on my SG tester is 1.210 so I guess that's the trigger for replacement?

Replacing the charger with a charger/inverter, the inverter will be a boon for AC for the microwave and outlets (i.e. popcorn and computer charging anytime you want to!).  I don't expect my third Xantrex Prosine 1800 watt inverter to last any longer than the first two did (replaced sequentially under a two year warranty).

Thanks again,

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


rotary drive

Niklas Glöggler
 


Hello

I am gonna install a second autopilot Raymarine rotary drive type 2 and wonder if anyone have the size on the chain and sprocket and were i can find it?

Regards Niklas Glöggler SY Nipe Amel Super Maramu 2000 #333



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Paul Osterberg
 

Mark
That the concern i have when placing the wind generator half way up the mizzen the problem to fly the mizzen balooner, maybe by adding a sock to the balooner the risk of having it into the windgenerator decrease and that one need to put the generator at rest  but that no issue as usually very little effect from the wind generator when condition for the mizzen balooner,

Paul