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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K clothes washing machine

Mark Erdos
 

The big Hyper U in the Galleria Shopping Center on Martinique sells washer/dryers that will fit your boat.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of thomas.kleman
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:08 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K clothes washing machine

 

 

Hello again- good internet here in Iles Des Saintes so I can get my questions out. Our clothes washer works well (for now) but is original to our boat (SM2K #422) from 2004. Looking to replace it. I read the posts regarding size and models that fit. Has anyone purchased a replacement in the SE Carib ? I read that Bebe's Bosch model 4 was purchased in Spain, if I recall. Haven't had much luck googling this issue.

 

Thanks,

 

Tom Kleman

SV L'ORIENT


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Turbo rebuild

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Good point re oil supply.

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 8 Feb 2018 1:59 a.m., "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny , I thought so , I had one rebuilt a few years ago , it was sent out by my mechanic and maybe he marked it up , but I think I paid about $800. I am doing the work myself this time. Important note I should pass along . The owner Dave instructed me to be sure to crack the oil line at the turbo , crank the engine a few times making sure the engine can't start and bleed off the air , so that the turbo has oil to it immediately upon starting.

Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Feb 6, 2018 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Turbo rebuild

 
Pat, that is incredibly cheap. Well done.
Danny
On 07 February 2018 at 08:43 "sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
 
I sent my turbo out to be rebuilt and just got it back , it looks like new , I feel they did a great job and the price was good , so I thought I would put their info out there in the event someone needs to have their turbo rebuilt. XS Boost Turbochargers , Owner Dave - 1 330 830 4075 in Massillon Ohio . Turbo and wastegate rebuild _ $385.00 including shipping.
Pat
SM#123
 

 


Re: Wind generator

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Paul,

As in all things on a boat, selection and location of a wind generator involves compromise and as responses to your inquiry reflect, opinions will vary considerably.  Here are some thoughts:

1)  You need to check amp output of the various generators at various wind speeds and determine what will be the most likely average wind speed you will encounter during your voyage.  The D400 turns at very low wind speed but maximum output is lower than others.  As you increase maximum output, you reduce output at lower wind speeds.

2)  Noise and vibration are a consideration.  Check user comments on the noise factor of the various units.  You don't want to be that vessel in the anchorage that every tries to get far away from because your generator is making so much noise.  Most generators produce some vibration (apparently not the Superwind according to Danny).  Sometimes the vibration can be dampened, other times it's not bad enough to keep you awake at night.  Some of this can be mitigated by where/how it's mounted.

3)  Top of the mast, middle of the mast or stern arch?  Keep in mind that the generator output is not same as the amount of charge that reaches your batteries.  The further the generator is from your batteries, the lower the charge is that reaches them.  As has been mentioned, maintenance can be an issue if mounted at the top of the mast.  How to deploy the ballooner can be an issue if mounted 1/2 way up.  Vibration can be an issue on the stern arch.

4)  Cost.  As Danny eluded to, the Superwind is top of the line, so it had better do everything well.  If cost is no object, that might be the way to go but if you have a budget, perhaps you can live with a less expensive option and mitigate any of it's shortcomings.

We installed an AirBreeze with aftermarket blades (which significantly reduced the noise and vibration) at mid-mizzen mast.  We could not hear or feel the generator in the cockpit.  In the aft berth, we could hear a vibration hum but it was not unpleasant and its intensity would alert us to increasing wind speed at night.  Each time we'd leave the boat for the off-season, I'd remove the blades, eliminating any concern for excessive wind -much easier to do than at the top of the mast.  We'd activate the generator brake whenever we'd raise the ballooner and turn it back on when the sail was deployed.  We circled the earth with this set up for 7 years and have no buyers remorse.  It was half the cost of the Superwind.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu: Location for watermaker

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for this Michael 
I’ll have a look at that option 
My engine bay is flanked with batteries 
One side is service and starter
The other has a big battery for windlass and furler 
Plus I’ve 3 alternators  perhaps we all have. 
So not that much space for cat swinging 

But in many ways the engine bay would work well. 
Perhaps I could make a removable platform 

I’m not close to the boat at the mo but still curious about the option of between the aft toilet and the hull. Perhaps just for the RO unit 

I’ll send a few photos once I’ve settled on a good spot but very helpful to hear others experience so many thanks to those who responded 

Fair winds
M


On 4 Feb 2018, at 10:42, 'Michael Konz' mkbiz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I installed an Aquabase watermaker in the engine room. The pump went on a
small platform besides the battery compartment and the main unit is wall
mounted at the port side of the engine room as far forward as possible.
So I still have enough place in the engine room to do all the works.

Good luck
Michael


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu: Location for watermaker

smiles bernard
 

Thanks Alex
FYI I was told to keep the watermaker inlet as low as possible and not near the fro t as it’d be more likely to suck in air. 
So I was thinking of adding another skin fitting near the engine raw water inlet. 
All the best
Miles


On 6 Feb 2018, at 12:45, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Miles, I have a neighbour with a 1981 Maramu with a watermaker installed in the forward cabin closet, this is closest point to salt water connections, drains, electrical power and water tank. I don´t have one, yet!!


Alex
Maramu 1981
Naiguatá, Venezuela 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe

Courtney Gorman
 

Awesome,
Thanks Dan sorry we will miss you in Martinique unless you are still there and wee make it LOL
Cheers
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'dancarlson367@...' dancarlson367@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Feb 7, 2018 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe

 
Hi Courtney,  I think the best use of your time would be a few days at Illes des Saintes.  Easy to get to, easy to check in and out. Great food!  

I think Barbuda is to far east and I dont think that you can check in there, have to check in at Antigua.  You might also look at Dominica, Portsmouth at Prince Rupert Bay. But it takes a few hours to check in. The PAYS guys can help you with that, as well as quickly set you up with tours that might interest you.  If you are there on a Sunday evening I heard that they are having the cruisers barbecue again, that is a pretty good time.

We are in MARTINIQUE until next Wednesday or so.

Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387 


 
Hi all Cindy and I will be sailing from Puerto Rico to Martinique next week.  I am wondering if stopping on the way or going direct is the better choice?  I was considering Barbuda or Guadeloupe for stop overs.  I still work so we are on a short leash of 2 weeks per trip.  Any and all advice would be appreciated!
Cheers!!
Courtney
Trippin' Amel 54 #101
Marina Del Rey PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe

Dan Carlson
 

Hi Courtney,  I think the best use of your time would be a few days at Illes des Saintes.  Easy to get to, easy to check in and out. Great food!  

I think Barbuda is to far east and I dont think that you can check in there, have to check in at Antigua.  You might also look at Dominica, Portsmouth at Prince Rupert Bay. But it takes a few hours to check in. The PAYS guys can help you with that, as well as quickly set you up with tours that might interest you.  If you are there on a Sunday evening I heard that they are having the cruisers barbecue again, that is a pretty good time.

We are in MARTINIQUE until next Wednesday or so.

Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387 


On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Hi all Cindy and I will be sailing from Puerto Rico to Martinique next week.  I am wondering if stopping on the way or going direct is the better choice?  I was considering Barbuda or Guadeloupe for stop overs.  I still work so we are on a short leash of 2 weeks per trip.  Any and all advice would be appreciated!

Cheers!!
Courtney
Trippin' Amel 54 #101
Marina Del Rey PR


Guadeloupe

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi all Cindy and I will be sailing from Puerto Rico to Martinique next week.  I am wondering if stopping on the way or going direct is the better choice?  I was considering Barbuda or Guadeloupe for stop overs.  I still work so we are on a short leash of 2 weeks per trip.  Any and all advice would be appreciated!
Cheers!!
Courtney
Trippin' Amel 54 #101
Marina Del Rey PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K clothes washing machine

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The SM washer is a standard European size. You should be able to find a replacement in Guadalupe and/or Martinique. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Feb 7, 2018 07:14, "thomas.kleman" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hello again- good internet here in Iles Des Saintes so I can get my questions out. Our clothes washer works well (for now) but is original to our boat (SM2K #422) from 2004. Looking to replace it. I read the posts regarding size and models that fit. Has anyone purchased a replacement in the SE Carib ? I read that Bebe's Bosch model 4 was purchased in Spain, if I recall. Haven't had much luck googling this issue.


Thanks,


Tom Kleman

SV L'ORIENT



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Furler Drum

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thomas,

For your information, regarding the genoa furler on SM 387 BeBe, a few years ago, we removed all of the cream color and gray colored paint until the aluminum was bright. We primed with aluminum primer and used 2-part AwlGrip marine paint. We did this without removing. BeBe's gray color emergency furling sheave is not 2 piece, and is NOT riveted to the foil.

Of course, the best way to correct the paint chipping is to remove the furler completely, strip the old paint completely, and have it powder-coated.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Feb 7, 2018 07:00, "thomas.kleman" <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hello all- I own SM2K #422 (L'ORIENT). My jib furler drum is heavily corroded; to the point where a large separation is emerging between the two halves. The black rubber gasket between them looks shot as well. Anyway, I have never removed this before. It looks straightforward, but as with many things on this boat, there's more than meets the eye. And it only takes a minute to ask......


Anyway, are there any tricks/recommended techniques to taking it off and then successfully putting it back ? Also, I got a bad case of jib furler drum envy when I saw Bebe's pic of his (looks like the earlier one-piece riveted type) but looked like new with its paint job. Has anyone cleaned up and repainted their drum ? What type of paint was used ?


Thanks


Tom Kleman

SV L'ORIENT

SM2K #422

Cru ising in Guadeloupe


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] dinghy on deck during passages

Courtney Gorman
 

sideways on the rear deck works great, even in VERY heavy seas!
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin' Amel 54 #101 PR

-----Original Message-----
From: Stella.AmelSM359@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Feb 6, 2018 8:23 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] dinghy on deck during passages

 
Hello again,

I am looking at recommendations regarding storing the dinghy on deck for longer passages.  I have seen various options and photos with the dinghy forward or aft on the sundeck but would like to get recommendation from your experiences while crossing.  

Stella has original davits but they look flimsy and I am not comfortable for them to be used offshore, (I plan to use them to take the dinghy out while at anchorage at night. or short good weather sailing)

Stella SM359


SM2K clothes washing machine

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Hello again- good internet here in Iles Des Saintes so I can get my questions out. Our clothes washer works well (for now) but is original to our boat (SM2K #422) from 2004. Looking to replace it. I read the posts regarding size and models that fit. Has anyone purchased a replacement in the SE Carib ? I read that Bebe's Bosch model 4 was purchased in Spain, if I recall. Haven't had much luck googling this issue.


Thanks,


Tom Kleman

SV L'ORIENT


Jib Furler Drum

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Hello all- I own SM2K #422 (L'ORIENT). My jib furler drum is heavily corroded; to the point where a large separation is emerging between the two halves. The black rubber gasket between them looks shot as well. Anyway, I have never removed this before. It looks straightforward, but as with many things on this boat, there's more than meets the eye. And it only takes a minute to ask......


Anyway, are there any tricks/recommended techniques to taking it off and then successfully putting it back ? Also, I got a bad case of jib furler drum envy when I saw Bebe's pic of his (looks like the earlier one-piece riveted type) but looked like new with its paint job. Has anyone cleaned up and repainted their drum ? What type of paint was used ?


Thanks


Tom Kleman

SV L'ORIENT

SM2K #422

Cruising in Guadeloupe


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Turbo rebuild

Patrick McAneny
 

Danny , I thought so , I had one rebuilt a few years ago , it was sent out by my mechanic and maybe he marked it up , but I think I paid about $800. I am doing the work myself this time. Important note I should pass along . The owner Dave instructed me to be sure to crack the oil line at the turbo , crank the engine a few times making sure the engine can't start and bleed off the air , so that the turbo has oil to it immediately upon starting.
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Feb 6, 2018 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Turbo rebuild

 
Pat, that is incredibly cheap. Well done.
Danny
On 07 February 2018 at 08:43 "sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
 
I sent my turbo out to be rebuilt and just got it back , it looks like new , I feel they did a great job and the price was good , so I thought I would put their info out there in the event someone needs to have their turbo rebuilt. XS Boost Turbochargers , Owner Dave - 1 330 830 4075 in Massillon Ohio . Turbo and wastegate rebuild _ $385.00 including shipping.
Pat
SM#123
 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] dinghy on deck during passages

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Thank you Dan for sharing your experience, this will be useful, I will have to practice taking the dinghy in and out with either the mizzen boom or the balooner halyard forward.
See the davits on Stella, a little light and useful only for short trips with calm water sailing.

For the dinghy on the bow, did you use a support or do you store her upside down?

Redouan
Stella SM359





On 7 Feb 2018, at 14:43, 'dancarlson367@...' dancarlson367@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Redouan, 


We've stored our dinghy on both bow and stern.  We've used the bow when we been going into a marina with stern to mooring. This keeps the stern deck clear for backing into the mooring and in close situations still allows you to launch the dinghy off of the bow.

For longer passages the preferred location would be the aft deck.  

At night, at anchor, we could hang the dinghy from the solar arch at night, but that requires manual hoisting and some securing against swinging.  So we hoist it with the mizzen balooner halyard, on the port side, using the electric main sheet winch and that is quick, easy and stable against the side rail at night. 

You also mentioned going ashore with a heavy dinghy.  We have used two approaches when we have had to beach the dinghy.
1) a few times we have been close to shore and we have not put the motor on and rowed to shore.  The dinghy is much easier to beach without the motor.  Or
2) we bring a couple of smaller 6-8 inch diameter fenders that we use as rollers under the keel of the dinghy to pull it up the beach and also launch. It's a little tricky, but is definately easier than dragging.  

Have fun sailing and figuring out what works best for you and your boat.

Best regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387




 

Thank you all for your answers, please note that I have no intention to sail far with dinghy on davits; at most some day relocation between moorings.  


I was looking for a recommendation comparing forward or aft storage.  I see many SM with dinghy forward like SV Delos for example, then on the aft sun deck under the Mizzain boom.  I assume the forward location impacts visibility but I just thought I would seek advice based on experience.

Note that I inherited a heavy dinghy with an aluminium hull and 15hp engine; I feel it is too much honestly as I am used to small light dinghy to go to shore, but now that I have it I would like to find a safe location for it without impacting too much both visibility and safety while keeping handling as simple as possible.  

For the moment my preferred option being upside down on the after sundeck and to use the mizzen boom for handling. and the engine mounted inside the stern locker.

Thank you again.

Stella SM359

On 7 Feb 2018, at 05:59, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@...[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There were no original davits for the SM. It is probable a previous owner installed them.

However, please don't think about using any sort of davits for any offshore passage on a SM. Use the aft deck.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Feb 6, 2018 19:13, "Stella.AmelSM359@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello again,


I am looking at recommendations regarding storing the dinghy on deck for longer passages.  I have seen various options and photos with the dinghy forward or aft on the sundeck but would like to get recommendation from your experiences while crossing.  


Stella has original davits but they look flimsy and I am not comfortable for them to be used offshore, (I plan to use them to take the dinghy out while at anchorage at night. or short good weather sailing)


Stella SM359








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] dinghy on deck during passages

Dan Carlson
 

Hello Redouan, 

We've stored our dinghy on both bow and stern.  We've used the bow when we been going into a marina with stern to mooring. This keeps the stern deck clear for backing into the mooring and in close situations still allows you to launch the dinghy off of the bow.

For longer passages the preferred location would be the aft deck.  

At night, at anchor, we could hang the dinghy from the solar arch at night, but that requires manual hoisting and some securing against swinging.  So we hoist it with the mizzen balooner halyard, on the port side, using the electric main sheet winch and that is quick, easy and stable against the side rail at night. 

You also mentioned going ashore with a heavy dinghy.  We have used two approaches when we have had to beach the dinghy.
1) a few times we have been close to shore and we have not put the motor on and rowed to shore.  The dinghy is much easier to beach without the motor.  Or
2) we bring a couple of smaller 6-8 inch diameter fenders that we use as rollers under the keel of the dinghy to pull it up the beach and also launch. It's a little tricky, but is definately easier than dragging.  

Have fun sailing and figuring out what works best for you and your boat.

Best regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387




On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:30 AM, Redouan Assar Stella.AmelSM359@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Thank you all for your answers, please note that I have no intention to sail far with dinghy on davits; at most some day relocation between moorings.  


I was looking for a recommendation comparing forward or aft storage.  I see many SM with dinghy forward like SV Delos for example, then on the aft sun deck under the Mizzain boom.  I assume the forward location impacts visibility but I just thought I would seek advice based on experience.

Note that I inherited a heavy dinghy with an aluminium hull and 15hp engine; I feel it is too much honestly as I am used to small light dinghy to go to shore, but now that I have it I would like to find a safe location for it without impacting too much both visibility and safety while keeping handling as simple as possible.  

For the moment my preferred option being upside down on the after sundeck and to use the mizzen boom for handling. and the engine mounted inside the stern locker.

Thank you again.

Stella SM359

On 7 Feb 2018, at 05:59, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There were no original davits for the SM. It is probable a previous owner installed them.

However, please don't think about using any sort of davits for any offshore passage on a SM. Use the aft deck.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Feb 6, 2018 19:13, "Stella.AmelSM359@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello again,


I am looking at recommendations regarding storing the dinghy on deck for longer passages.  I have seen various options and photos with the dinghy forward or aft on the sundeck but would like to get recommendation from your experiences while crossing.  


Stella has original davits but they look flimsy and I am not comfortable for them to be used offshore, (I plan to use them to take the dinghy out while at anchorage at night. or short good weather sailing)


Stella SM359






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Patrick,
I wouldn't recommend hanging a D400 in the rigging, it"s just too heavy.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] dinghy on deck during passages

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Thank you all for your answers, please note that I have no intention to sail far with dinghy on davits; at most some day relocation between moorings.  

I was looking for a recommendation comparing forward or aft storage.  I see many SM with dinghy forward like SV Delos for example, then on the aft sun deck under the Mizzain boom.  I assume the forward location impacts visibility but I just thought I would seek advice based on experience.

Note that I inherited a heavy dinghy with an aluminium hull and 15hp engine; I feel it is too much honestly as I am used to small light dinghy to go to shore, but now that I have it I would like to find a safe location for it without impacting too much both visibility and safety while keeping handling as simple as possible.  

For the moment my preferred option being upside down on the after sundeck and to use the mizzen boom for handling. and the engine mounted inside the stern locker.

Thank you again.

Stella SM359

On 7 Feb 2018, at 05:59, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There were no original davits for the SM. It is probable a previous owner installed them.

However, please don't think about using any sort of davits for any offshore passage on a SM. Use the aft deck.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Feb 6, 2018 19:13, "Stella.AmelSM359@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello again,


I am looking at recommendations regarding storing the dinghy on deck for longer passages.  I have seen various options and photos with the dinghy forward or aft on the sundeck but would like to get recommendation from your experiences while crossing.  


Stella has original davits but they look flimsy and I am not comfortable for them to be used offshore, (I plan to use them to take the dinghy out while at anchorage at night. or short good weather sailing)


Stella SM359






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] dinghy on deck during passages

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

There were no original davits for the SM. It is probable a previous owner installed them.

However, please don't think about using any sort of davits for any offshore passage on a SM. Use the aft deck.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Feb 6, 2018 19:13, "Stella.AmelSM359@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello again,


I am looking at recommendations regarding storing the dinghy on deck for longer passages.  I have seen various options and photos with the dinghy forward or aft on the sundeck but would like to get recommendation from your experiences while crossing.  


Stella has original davits but they look flimsy and I am not comfortable for them to be used offshore, (I plan to use them to take the dinghy out while at anchorage at night. or short good weather sailing)


Stella SM359



Re: dinghy on deck during passages

Alan Leslie
 

We never put the dinghy on the davits when voyaging offshore...one decent wave would rip it all off the back the boat.
We ALWAYS strap down our dink inverted on the aft cabin roof when heading offshore. Not only is it safe and secure, it also functions as a spray shield for the cockpit
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437.

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