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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Support for Liferaft on rails

Alan Leslie
 

Our liferaft is a Plastimo mounted on a Plastimo rail mount frame on the port aft rail, as another poster has said, and as many Super Maramus have it.
Personally I would not stow a liferaft inside the boat or in that deep side locker. These things are heavy and difficult to maneuver. I believe they are best stowed where they can be deployed easily and quickly.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Forward Sonar

Alan Leslie
 

We have an Interphase Probe forward looking sonar on Elyse that has given up. We replaced the transducer a few years ago and it worked sort of, for a while, but now it doesn't at all...except when the boat isn't moving, then it works sometimes.

I'm going to replace it with a Navico forward scan transducer and a B&G Vulcan FS display.

The probe transducer is on the centre line forward of the depth sounder.

I know that the Navico transducer housing is a larger diameter than the probe threaded stem, but what concerns me a bit is the thickness of the hull there. 


Does anyone know how thick the hull is at that point on a Super Maramu ? 


Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Support for Liferaft on rails

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I keep my 4 people liferaft in the aft cabin under a desk. It is better protected inside.
Better not to rush with liferaft deployment. You have to "stap up" on the liferaft when it is absolutely no doughs that a boat is going down. It is always better to be on a partially submerged boat than on the liferuft.

You can always bring a liferuft to the cockpit when things are going very bad. 

On Feb 6, 2018 20:13, "Stella.AmelSM359@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello,


I would like to add an elegant support for the liferaft on the rails, any body has a recommendation for this?  

The idea is;

- to make it easier to launch in case of emergency.  (I find that going into the locker is rather unpleasant event during an emergency!

- to save the locker for other types of storage



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Support for Liferaft on rails

James Studdart
 

Hello,
Our life raft is mounted on the port stern rail. It was like that when we bought the boat and I find it a pretty nice solution. There is one long stainless steel pin to release it. I’d hate to have to dig down into that locker for a life raft in even calm seas. We’ve got diesel jerry cans and fenders in the locker instead.

If you wish I can take a photo and post it to the group. I’d be surprised if there isn’t one from someone already though. We’ve seen many Super Maramu with the same setup. This topic has also come up before with much discussion about safety and sunshine hurting the life raft.

Cheers,
James.
SeaBean SM344
Moorea, FP


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:20 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I once had a switlik raft and they told me that the raft had to be mounted horizontally. Check with your raft manufacturer.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:10 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Support for Liferaft on rails

 

 

Hello,

 

I would like to add an elegant support for the liferaft on the rails, any body has a recommendation for this?  

The idea is;

- to make it easier to launch in case of emergency.  (I find that going into the locker is rather unpleasant event during an emergency!

- to save the locker for other types of storage


Re: Bow Thruster won't come up

Duane Siegfri
 

I received the new limit switch today and still no joy.  

This is confusing since, in diagnosing the problem (bow thruster would not retract), I borrowed a new limit switch from another Amel SM  (JOY), put it in the lowest position on the Actuator (marked "H") and the Actuator was then able to raise the bow thruster to retract it into the hull.  From this I assumed the problem was the limit switch.

Okay, so I get the new switch and install it in the "H" position (lowest on the actuator tube).  With the new switch in place I tried to lower the bow thruster motor.  The lights on the "SP" and "B" switches lit up, but the actuator motor did not engage.

I switched the toggle switch at the helm to the "UP" position and the lights on the "SP" and "H" switches lit up, and the up buzzer sounded.  This seems right since the thruster motor was "UP". 

I replaced the "B" switch (the upper position on the actuator tube) with a new one, and repeated the procedure above with the same results.

I'm starting to wonder if the actuator motor is burnt out, so tested the motor wires for continuity through the motor and got continuity.

-What else could I test?

-If the actuator motor was not working it would explain the current situation, how do I test the actuator motor?  And, if it's shot, why did it work to raise the thruster motor with the borrowed switch?

-What does it mean when the light on the limit switch comes on?  I find it odd that the "SP" limit switch light comes on when the thruster motor is all the way up.  I tried to activate the thruster prop in this position and it did not activate.  From that I assume when the limit switch light is on, the motor is locked out.  The old switches were marked with a "Normally Closed" icon.

-Which switch controls the limit of the bow thruster motor up and down?  Is the "B" (on the top of the actuator tube) the limit switch for the down position for the thruster motor?  And the "H" switch (on the bottom of the actuator) the switch for the "UP" position of the thruster motor?)

-I don't understand why with the bow thruster motor up (and you get no movement of the thruster motor):
When you toggle the actuator for "UP" the switches look like this:
SP (lit)     B (not lit)

H (lit)

When you toggle for "Down" with the thruster motor up you get this:
SP (lit) B (lit)

H(not lit)

Any ideas out there?
Thanks,
Duane


Re: Question about earth plates replacement

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Willem,
Our plates seem to be attached with rather large slot headed screws/ bolts.
I would doubt that they are just self tapping, I'm sure they would thread into something inside the rudder.
Our plates....and we're not that much removed from you # wise ....are just fine...I work them over with a wire brush on a drill every time we haul out...they haven't actually decayed at all...and the SSB performance is always improved after the wire brushing.
BUT the ONLY person who would know for sure how they are attached is OLIVIER BEAUTE....
OLIVIER, perhaps you can answer this question ?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Question about earth plates replacement

Willem Kroes
 

Hi fellow Amelians,


The earth plates on my SM 2K need to be replaced (the bronze 'bubbles' are gone for more than 60%). The plates are connected to the antenna tuner of the ssb transceiver.

My question: how is the installation of the plates done. Can I expect a laminated bronze plate inside with screw threads tapped?
Or is there only a cable connection and the attachment of the plates must be done with self tapping screws?

I am not on my boat now and I want to know how to instruct the mechanic of the boat yard.

Fair winds to you all,

Willem Kroes

SM 2k #351 Kavanga


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Thank you Danny.
/Ann-Sofie

Skickat från min iPad

8 feb. 2018 kl. 18:40 skrev Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi Ann-Sofie, you said "can't see what make you have on the wind gen". If you are asking the make of our wind gen it is Super Wind, German made.

Regards

Danny

On 08 February 2018 at 22:34 "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Wow. We have a SilentWind 400 and even though the manufacturer said the same, no noice, no vibration. There are. Most enoying is the resonance and that we have to adjust the blades at least once a season.
Can't see what make you have on the wind gen.

Skickat från min iPad

6 feb. 2018 kl. 09:34 skrev Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

 

Hi Ann-Sofie. I am repeating myself here. The super wind has no noise and no vibration, and in nine years I have not once had any adjustments to make or service needed. Probably why they are twice the price of alternatives.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 06 February 2018 at 22:04 "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

We hade similar plans, to install the wind gen on top of the mizzen. But now we are glad we glad didn't. The blades needs to be adjusted very often, and it is not that fun to climb the mast. Also, the resonance through the mast can be very enoying, unless you find a solution for it.

/Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

5 feb. 2018 kl. 16:31 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

 

We plan to install a wind generator probably a Rutland 1200 on top of the mizzen mast.

 

We are currently not at the boat (Georgetown Maryland) and wonder if someone know how the top of the mizzenmast look like? Measures? Is it easy access to put nuts and bolts through the top to bolt the wind generator? Any advise from someone who have made that before would be appreciated. There is a mounting kit in aluminium available for 499 $ looks expensive to me, thinking of having one made in 316 SS would probably be less cost. Weight a loft is of course an issue.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos Portugal


 

 


 

 

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dinghy on deck during passages

eric freedman
 

Bill,

Thanks

Fair Winds

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

Eric,

 

We have a West Marine folding RIB.  

 

It's great, and works well for us.  When we bought this it was the only folding RIB available on the market in the USA.  Now, there is a company in California that is importing a line of folding dinghies from Russia that look at least as nice as well.

 

We use a 15 HP 2 stroke Yamaha (not the enduro version, the standard consumer model).  11 knots is our comfortable cruising speed with 2 people and a load of provisions.  We initially used an 8HP 2-stoke and it was ok with the just the two of us, but add a load of groceries, and things slowed down a lot.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Abaco Is, Bahamas

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dinghy on deck during passages

greatketch@...
 

Eric,

We have a West Marine folding RIB.  

It's great, and works well for us.  When we bought this it was the only folding RIB available on the market in the USA.  Now, there is a company in California that is importing a line of folding dinghies from Russia that look at least as nice as well.

We use a 15 HP 2 stroke Yamaha (not the enduro version, the standard consumer model).  11 knots is our comfortable cruising speed with 2 people and a load of provisions.  We initially used an 8HP 2-stoke and it was ok with the just the two of us, but add a load of groceries, and things slowed down a lot.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Abaco Is, Bahamas


Re: 24v Dessalator motor stops under pressure

ya_fohi
 

Duane,

Thanks. I'll give that a try.

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: 24v Dessalator motor stops under pressure

ya_fohi
 

Mark,

Thanks very much for your reply. You seem pretty certain about that. I did already replace the failed wheel for the 240v motor less than a year ago and so far its been fine. I cannot understand though how the 24v motor runs fine under no load and only stops when the pressure is turned up if this is due to a failing bearing. Surely the bearing either works or doesn't?

A guy here in Martinique suggested I check the motor brushes - a lot cheaper than buying a new pulley wheel!

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 24v Dessalator motor stops under pressure

ya_fohi
 

Thanks Alex, I might do that if I can't fix it by then. You on VHF68?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dinghy on deck during passages

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

What dinghy do you have?

What engine do you use?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:20 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: dinghy on deck during passages

 

 

Dinghy storage options are always a source of "discussion" with sailors.  My personal feeling is that davits are not a reliable storage method underway--even for short day sails.  There is just too much to go wrong, and the weight is put in the worst possible place. Lots of people do it all the time (mostly) without serious problems. On the other hand, we saw a boat come into Newport RI inbound from Block Island that had been carrying a dinghy on davits when they were pooped.  Everything on the back of the boat was totally pretzeled. A real mess. Must have been terrifying at the time.

 

When we added an arch for our solar panels, we skipped adding the optional davits--and have never regretted it. When at anchor we found that lifting the dinghy to the rail with a halyard was just as fast, as easy, and as secure as any davits I ever used.

 

We have a 10.5 foot folding RIB that we can deflate, fold, and zip into its storage bag in no more than 10 minutes. The bag is tied down on the aft cabin deck where it is totally out of the way both physically and visually.  The folded size is less than 4' x 4' x 2'. For serious passages, we take the time to drop it in the lazarette, and we then have totally clear decks.

 

It took a lot of searching, but we finally found an electric inflator pump that is easy to use, well built, and puts air into the dinghy in a jiffy. Most of the ones we looked at were built to a very low price point and seemed fragile and fussy.

 

Our solution is not to everyone's taste, but we feel it is the best for us.

 

On my old boat, a 40 foot ketch, I had a hard dinghy that was tied down forward of the mast with custom padeyes.  It was a workable solution, although it did restrict visibility quite a bit.


Bill Kinney

SM#160,  Harmonie

Great Guana Cay, Bahamas

 


---In amelyachtowners@..., <Stella.AmelSM359@...> wrote :

Hello again,

 

I am looking at recommendations regarding storing the dinghy on deck for longer passages.  I have seen various options and photos with the dinghy forward or aft on the sundeck but would like to get recommendation from your experiences while crossing.  

 

Stella has original davits but they look flimsy and I am not comfortable for them to be used offshore, (I plan to use them to take the dinghy out while at anchorage at night. or short good weather sailing)

 

Stella SM359

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Support for Liferaft on rails

eric freedman
 

I once had a switlik raft and they told me that the raft had to be mounted horizontally. Check with your raft manufacturer.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:10 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Support for Liferaft on rails

 

 

Hello,

 

I would like to add an elegant support for the liferaft on the rails, any body has a recommendation for this?  

The idea is;

- to make it easier to launch in case of emergency.  (I find that going into the locker is rather unpleasant event during an emergency!

- to save the locker for other types of storage


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 24v Dessalator motor stops under pressure

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi Paul,
I'll have Carib Marine to refurbish my unit next Tuesday, Feb13th (IF carneval doesn't strike the workers to hard..). You may want to come aboard and have a look, ask a question?

Cheers, Alex
NO STRESS at all


On Thursday, February 1, 2018, 5:52:24 PM GMT-4, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Paul,


By the way, to check if it's the pulley wheel, put it back together and stay next to the high pressure pump.  When the grating noise starts you'll be able to tell if it's the bendix bearing.  Your symptoms sound exactly like my issue, which was solved by changing to a solid pulley (no bearing).  

Another way to check if it's the bearing:  take the pulley off the HP pump that the 240V motor drives and compare how it rotates in both directions to the one from the 24 V motor.  It should turn freely in one direction (holding the inside hub still and rotating the outer wheel), and lock up in the opposite direction.  Be sure to have the direction of rotation correct when you remount the pulleys.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ann-Sofie, you said "can't see what make you have on the wind gen". If you are asking the make of our wind gen it is Super Wind, German made.

Regards

Danny

On 08 February 2018 at 22:34 "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Wow. We have a SilentWind 400 and even though the manufacturer said the same, no noice, no vibration. There are. Most enoying is the resonance and that we have to adjust the blades at least once a season.
Can't see what make you have on the wind gen.

Skickat från min iPad

6 feb. 2018 kl. 09:34 skrev Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

 

Hi Ann-Sofie. I am repeating myself here. The super wind has no noise and no vibration, and in nine years I have not once had any adjustments to make or service needed. Probably why they are twice the price of alternatives.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 06 February 2018 at 22:04 "Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

We hade similar plans, to install the wind gen on top of the mizzen. But now we are glad we glad didn't. The blades needs to be adjusted very often, and it is not that fun to climb the mast. Also, the resonance through the mast can be very enoying, unless you find a solution for it.

/Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

5 feb. 2018 kl. 16:31 skrev osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

 

We plan to install a wind generator probably a Rutland 1200 on top of the mizzen mast.

 

We are currently not at the boat (Georgetown Maryland) and wonder if someone know how the top of the mizzenmast look like? Measures? Is it easy access to put nuts and bolts through the top to bolt the wind generator? Any advise from someone who have made that before would be appreciated. There is a mounting kit in aluminium available for 499 $ looks expensive to me, thinking of having one made in 316 SS would probably be less cost. Weight a loft is of course an issue.


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos Portugal


 

 


 

 

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu: Location for watermaker

David Wallace
 

If you decide to place the unit outboard of the aft toilet, you can make more space by moving the shelf facing panel inboard such that it sits on the fiberglass base behind the toliet. We did this in both the forward and aft heads, extending the shelves about four inches, giving us quite a bit of more storage space with no interference with the toilet.

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

On Feb 7, 2018, at 11:17 AM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks for this Michael 

I’ll have a look at that option 
My engine bay is flanked with batteries 
One side is service and starter
The other has a big battery for windlass and furler 
Plus I’ve 3 alternators  perhaps we all have. 
So not that much space for cat swinging 

But in many ways the engine bay would work well. 
Perhaps I could make a removable platform 

I’m not close to the boat at the mo but still curious about the option of between the aft toilet and the hull. Perhaps just for the RO unit 

I’ll send a few photos once I’ve settled on a good spot but very helpful to hear others experience so many thanks to those who responded 

Fair winds
M


On 4 Feb 2018, at 10:42, 'Michael Konz' mkbiz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I installed an Aquabase watermaker in the engine room. The pump went on a 
small platform besides the battery compartment and the main unit is wall 
mounted at the port side of the engine room as far forward as possible.
So I still have enough place in the engine room to do all the works.

Good luck
Michael




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe

Courtney Gorman
 

thanks I appreciate the heads up!


-----Original Message-----
From: thomas.kleman
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Feb 8, 2018 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe

 
If I could throw in my two cents on Deshaies, my wife and I have been cruising the area since 2014 pretty continually. We stopped in Deshailles to check in last week and enjoyed probably the most rolly evening ever on our boat (middle of the harbor).  Crash, bang, and no sleep. The non-rolly part of that harbor is the extreme north end along the shore and there is intense competition for this space (we arrived too late). Good luck.

Tom and Kirstin


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guadeloupe

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

If I could throw in my two cents on Deshaies, my wife and I have been cruising the area since 2014 pretty continually. We stopped in Deshailles to check in last week and enjoyed probably the most rolly evening ever on our boat (middle of the harbor).  Crash, bang, and no sleep. The non-rolly part of that harbor is the extreme north end along the shore and there is intense competition for this space (we arrived too late). Good luck.

Tom and Kirstin