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Bamar Upgrade Program

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

I talked with Paul at Bamar USA Friday.  Paul forwarded the letter below, I told him I would send it out to all interested parties on the A O G.  With the interest generated from the Amel Owners Group plus a few other contacts he has made he believes he can very shortly place an order with Bamar for at least five units which will then put us in an advantageous pricing position.  Paul did say that he represents Bamar in North America and the northern Caribbean, please check with Paul if you are outside of his territorial sales area to determine how this program can be beneficial for you.  In areas where Bamar does not have representation he can extend this program directly to you.


Together our buying power will allow us receive significant discounts on these items.  Possibly not as good as the original program but still significant savings.  Please contact Paul or one of the Bamar dealers if you are ready to pursue this.  I have committed to Paul to purchase and I will be contacting a dealer Monday.

If I forgotten to anyone that you know has expressed interest please forward this to them.



Best regards,


Mark & Debbie Mueller
s/v Brass Ring   A54
currently Fort Lauderdale

Letter from Paul below:


If we can get organized where we can place orders for at least 5 EJF1 furling motorizations, then we can get the prices down very low.

BAMAR USA PROMOTIONAL OFFER TO AMEL 54 OWNERS – UPGRADE YOUR FORESAIL FURLERS TO EJF1’S

You will be purchasing from one of our major Bamar Dealers such as Nance & Underwood Rigging and Sails  in Ft . Lauderdale or Mack Sails, in Stuart FL, or Island Rigging & Hydraulics in St Thomas USVI are some examples.

These dealers are very experienced with the EJF 1 installations and they have riggers that will travel anywhere, and they can ship anywhere.

The special pricing that is available will look something like:

EJF1 24V Motorization retail $12,500.00  your price approx.  $7000.00

Various rigging fittings, tack socket, toggles, clevis pin, boxtron control box if needed retail $2800.00  your price approx.  $1715.00

Complete package, per motorization, your cost $8715.00, shipping not included. Installation not included.

The rigging details we would need from the Amel boats:

The type and size of furling foil (pictures), the forestay wire diameter, bottom clevis pin diameter, toggle orientation on deck (picture please), and the type of Boxtron control box existing onboard (picture)

Please let me know how I can help you organize your order and connect you with a Bamar dealer.

Thank you, and

Best regards,

Paul Hrabowsky


President
Bamar USA
604-728-7445
www.bamarusa.com


Support for Liferaft on rails

eric freedman
 

That makes 3 of us.

I cannot imagine a rail mounted raft surviving a 40 or 50 foot wave crashing over our stern.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Support for Liferaft on rails

 

 

Hi Ian and Judy.

you and me too. 

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 12 February 2018 at 02:38 "Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

hi All,

 

 For what it's worth, two of the most experienced sailors I have ever come across , one owning a Swan 57 with over 100,000 miles experience, the other having competed in the same boat in about 15 Sydney to Hobarts ,  plus sailed a couple of circumnavigations and the North West passage, both stowed their liferafts very securely on deck.

 

Both lost their liferafts in heavy weather.

 

The power of the sea sweeping a deck can be overwhelming.

 

 We keep ours in the locker..

 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza, Greece


From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: 10 February 2018 16:31:49
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Support for Liferaft on rails

 



As far as I know, every liferaft manufacturer makes a rail mount holder to fit the life rafts that they have packaged for exterior exposure.  Have you contacted them? Design of these isn’t always simple, especially if you use a hydrostatic release.

 

Our thinking on life rafts has slowly evolved as we have lived with one, and reading about those few cases where people actually needed to deploy one.  

 

On an Amel, with multiple watertight compartments, it seems the most likely reason for needing to take to the raft is an uncontrolled fire on board. With this in mind,  I do not consider storage below deck a good idea.

 

I have no issue with storage in the bottom of the Amel deep Port side deck locker.  Anything stored on top would just be thrown overboard in an emergency.  Yes, our four-man raft is heavy (80lbs/40kg) but not so heavy any single crew member could not lift it if they HAD to.  A 6 or 8 man raft changes that calculation a lot.  A 8 man raft is really heavy and awkward.  If I felt the need for 8 man raft capacity I would seriously consider using two four man rafts!

 

We have ended up with our valise packed raft in the cockpit locker as part of our ongoing effort to move weight as far starboard as possible.  I am liking it there for another reason, it gets looked at a lot!  It anything was going wrong, we would see it.

 

 

 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Support for Liferaft on rails

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ian and Judy.

you and me too. 

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 12 February 2018 at 02:38 "Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

hi All,


 For what it's worth, two of the most experienced sailors I have ever come across , one owning a Swan 57 with over 100,000 miles experience, the other having competed in the same boat in about 15 Sydney to Hobarts ,  plus sailed a couple of circumnavigations and the North West passage, both stowed their liferafts very securely on deck.


Both lost their liferafts in heavy weather.


The power of the sea sweeping a deck can be overwhelming.


 We keep ours in the locker..


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza, Greece


From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: 10 February 2018 16:31:49
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Support for Liferaft on rails
 


As far as I know, every liferaft manufacturer makes a rail mount holder to fit the life rafts that they have packaged for exterior exposure.  Have you contacted them? Design of these isn’t always simple, especially if you use a hydrostatic release.

Our thinking on life rafts has slowly evolved as we have lived with one, and reading about those few cases where people actually needed to deploy one.  

On an Amel, with multiple watertight compartments, it seems the most likely reason for needing to take to the raft is an uncontrolled fire on board. With this in mind,  I do not consider storage below deck a good idea.

I have no issue with storage in the bottom of the Amel deep Port side deck locker.  Anything stored on top would just be thrown overboard in an emergency.  Yes, our four-man raft is heavy (80lbs/40kg) but not so heavy any single crew member could not lift it if they HAD to.  A 6 or 8 man raft changes that calculation a lot.  A 8 man raft is really heavy and awkward.  If I felt the need for 8 man raft capacity I would seriously consider using two four man rafts!

We have ended up with our valise packed raft in the cockpit locker as part of our ongoing effort to move weight as far starboard as possible.  I am liking it there for another reason, it gets looked at a lot!  It anything was going wrong, we would see it.


 

 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shaft packing

David Wallace
 

James,

That sounds familiar so is just what I need.

I replaced the oil pressure sender a couple of years ago and looked the purchase up in my records, but unfortunately the unit I bought came with several adapters (itself was ⅛”-27 NPT) and I don’t recall which one, if any, was used. Hopefully someone else will have the answer for you. By the way, I came across a web site in the UK, www.parts4engines.com that lists a number of 4.154 parts. Perhaps they will have the answer if no one in the group responds with it.

Thank for the quick response!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortex, Mx

On Feb 10, 2018, at 6:15 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Dave,

My Maramu is #220 and I am using 5/16” Teflon impregnated packing. Would anyone with a Perkins 4.154 be able to tell the thread size for the engine block oil pressure tap? I am wanting to add a mechanical oil pressure gauge.

Thanks,

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
Arbatax, Italy

On Feb 10, 2018, at 3:17 PM, David Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

We’re off the boat so hopefully someone in the group can answer a quick question. What size shaft packing do I need: Maramu, original shaft size and packing housing? Thanks in advance!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu#104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shaft packing

David Wallace
 

James,

That sounds familiar so is just what I need.

I replaced the oil pressure sender a couple of years ago and looked the purchase up in my records, but unfortunately the unit I bought came with several adapters (itself was ⅛”-27 NPT) and I don’t recall which one, if any, was used. Hopefully someone else will have the answer for you. By the way, I came across a web site in the UK, www.parts4engines.com that lists a number of 4.154 parts. Perhaps they will have the answer if no one in the group responds with it.

Thank for the quick response!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortex, Mx

On Feb 10, 2018, at 6:15 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Dave,

My Maramu is #220 and I am using 5/16” Teflon impregnated packing. Would anyone with a Perkins 4.154 be able to tell the thread size for the engine block oil pressure tap? I am wanting to add a mechanical oil pressure gauge.

Thanks,

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
Arbatax, Italy

On Feb 10, 2018, at 3:17 PM, David Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

We’re off the boat so hopefully someone in the group can answer a quick question. What size shaft packing do I need: Maramu, original shaft size and packing housing? Thanks in advance!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu#104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

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A54 Hull Gelcoat Color

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

Would anyone know the name & manufacturer if possible OR the gelcoat color code number for the 54??  Thanks in advance.


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 54 TV lift

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks I checked but yes it was on




Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 2/11/18 11:30 AM (GMT-04:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 54 TV lift

 

Inverter under navtable is on?






Posted by: webercardio <webercardio@...>
Reply via web post

Re: 54 TV lift

Wolfgang Weber
 

Inverter under navtable is on?





54 TV lift

Courtney Gorman
 


Hi all we got back to our boat last night and our TV lift in the main saloon is not working I'm wondering if maybe I'm not doing something very simple. I do have on 230 all of the 24 volt outlets and the power and we're connected to shore power 
Any ideas of things we can try


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Support for Liferaft on rails

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

hi All,


 For what it's worth, two of the most experienced sailors I have ever come across , one owning a Swan 57 with over 100,000 miles experience, the other having competed in the same boat in about 15 Sydney to Hobarts ,  plus sailed a couple of circumnavigations and the North West passage, both stowed their liferafts very securely on deck.


Both lost their liferafts in heavy weather.


The power of the sea sweeping a deck can be overwhelming.


 We keep ours in the locker.


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza, Greece


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 10 February 2018 16:31:49
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Support for Liferaft on rails
 


As far as I know, every liferaft manufacturer makes a rail mount holder to fit the life rafts that they have packaged for exterior exposure.  Have you contacted them? Design of these isn’t always simple, especially if you use a hydrostatic release.

Our thinking on life rafts has slowly evolved as we have lived with one, and reading about those few cases where people actually needed to deploy one.  

On an Amel, with multiple watertight compartments, it seems the most likely reason for needing to take to the raft is an uncontrolled fire on board. With this in mind,  I do not consider storage below deck a good idea.

I have no issue with storage in the bottom of the Amel deep Port side deck locker.  Anything stored on top would just be thrown overboard in an emergency.  Yes, our four-man raft is heavy (80lbs/40kg) but not so heavy any single crew member could not lift it if they HAD to.  A 6 or 8 man raft changes that calculation a lot.  A 8 man raft is really heavy and awkward.  If I felt the need for 8 man raft capacity I would seriously consider using two four man rafts!

We have ended up with our valise packed raft in the cockpit locker as part of our ongoing effort to move weight as far starboard as possible.  I am liking it there for another reason, it gets looked at a lot!  It anything was going wrong, we would see it.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shaft packing

David Wallace
 

James,

That sounds familiar so is just what I need.

I replaced the oil pressure sender a couple of years ago and looked the purchase up in my records, but unfortunately the unit I bought came with several adapters (itself was ⅛”-27 NPT) and I don’t recall which one, if any, was used. Hopefully someone else will have the answer for you. By the way, I came across a web site in the UK, www.parts4engines.com that lists a number of 4.154 parts. Perhaps they will have the answer if no one in the group responds with it.

Thank for the quick response!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortex, Mx

On Feb 10, 2018, at 6:15 PM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Dave,

My Maramu is #220 and I am using 5/16” Teflon impregnated packing. Would anyone with a Perkins 4.154 be able to tell the thread size for the engine block oil pressure tap? I am wanting to add a mechanical oil pressure gauge.

Thanks,

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
Arbatax, Italy

On Feb 10, 2018, at 3:17 PM, David Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

We’re off the boat so hopefully someone in the group can answer a quick question. What size shaft packing do I need: Maramu, original shaft size and packing housing? Thanks in advance!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu#104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shaft packing

James Alton
 

Dave,

My Maramu is #220 and I am using 5/16” Teflon impregnated packing. Would anyone with a Perkins 4.154 be able to tell the thread size for the engine block oil pressure tap? I am wanting to add a mechanical oil pressure gauge.

Thanks,

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
Arbatax, Italy

On Feb 10, 2018, at 3:17 PM, David Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

We’re off the boat so hopefully someone in the group can answer a quick question. What size shaft packing do I need: Maramu, original shaft size and packing housing? Thanks in advance!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu#104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Forward Sonar

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Pat,
That's reassuring. The Navico (B&G, Simrad etc) housing recommends max 1 7/8" hull thickness.I'm guessing that your B&G transducer housing is the same as mine.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs

Paul Osterberg
 

I would use PU caulk similar as when caulking teak deck more UV stable both Sika and 3M have high quality PU sealer 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 249

Re: Jib Track Plugs

Miles
 

Hi Bill,

 

I replaced mine with white silicone sealant several years.  They seem to work just fine.

 

Regards,

Miles

S/Y Ladybug sm 216,  Martinique

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT Illustrations & Parts for sale (SWIM LADDER)

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Amonn,
Finally time to write down about the ladder.
Mine was under water, I found and removed it, it is now cover with barnacles. When I have time I will clean it.
Are you still interested? Mine was the longest of the 2, it is 3.1 meter instead of the usual 2.9 m!!!
Sincerely Alexandre



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On Sun, 10/29/17, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT Illustrations & Parts for sale
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, October 29, 2017, 9:42 AM


 









Hi Alexandre, I relied on your photos to help plan
my first wear bearings replacement.  Thanks!
I need a swim ladder.  Did yours
survive?  It is not on the parts for sale
list.
All the
bestEamonn WashingtonTravel
BugSM 151









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs

James Alton
 

Bill,

   I think that your idea of using the silicone might be the best idea.  The filled (Grey as opposed to the clear)  Dow Corning 3145 stands up for a long time to the UV in my experience.  The 3145 was designed for electrical work  (does not contain Acetic acid) and is supposed to be non-corrosive.  Especially if you use the primer you should get a good bond and seal to the aluminum track so hopefully this would keep the salt out of there.  

   Do you still like the Firefly batteries?

James
SV Sueño,  Maramu #220

On Feb 10, 2018, at 3:10 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Last year we replaced all the plugs that keep water from sitting in the recesses around the bolts that attach the jib track to the rail.  We ordered them from Amel, and I was disappointed to find that they were natural white polyethylene—not something I expected to have a reasonable lifespan in sunlight.  Sure enough, a year later they are all crumbling away.

Has anybody found a better alternative?  Maybe black plastic?  or anything else better able to handle sunlight? I haven’t been able to track anything down.

In the absence of a better alternative, I am thinking of plugging the holes with silicone sealant.  Yes, it would be something of a pain (but not impossible) to extract if I ever needed to, but I really don’t want these bolts soaking in salt water constantly.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie

Freeport, Bahamas.




Shaft packing

David Wallace
 

We’re off the boat so hopefully someone in the group can answer a quick question. What size shaft packing do I need: Maramu, original shaft size and packing housing? Thanks in advance!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu#104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

Jib Track Plugs

greatketch@...
 



Last year we replaced all the plugs that keep water from sitting in the recesses around the bolts that attach the jib track to the rail.  We ordered them from Amel, and I was disappointed to find that they were natural white polyethylene—not something I expected to have a reasonable lifespan in sunlight.  Sure enough, a year later they are all crumbling away.

Has anybody found a better alternative?  Maybe black plastic?  or anything else better able to handle sunlight? I haven’t been able to track anything down.

In the absence of a better alternative, I am thinking of plugging the holes with silicone sealant.  Yes, it would be something of a pain (but not impossible) to extract if I ever needed to, but I really don’t want these bolts soaking in salt water constantly.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie

Freeport, Bahamas.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Question about earth plates replacement

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Alan,

 

Thanks for your reply. I will ask Olivier Beaute. He surveyed my boat 2 years ago and noticed the worn out earth plates in his report.

 

Kind regards,

 

Willem

 

Van: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Verzonden: vrijdag 9 februari 2018 13:07
Aan: amelyachtowners@...
Onderwerp: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Question about earth plates replacement

 

 

Hi Willem,

Our plates seem to be attached with rather large slot headed screws/ bolts.
I would doubt that they are just self tapping, I'm sure they would thread into something inside the rudder.
Our plates....and we're not that much removed from you # wise ....are just fine...I work them over with a wire brush on a drill every time we haul out...they haven't actually decayed at all...and the SSB performance is always improved after the wire brushing.
BUT the ONLY person who would know for sure how they are attached is OLIVIER BEAUTE....
OLIVIER, perhaps you can answer this question ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437