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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Eric,
I just checked my McMaster order.
The plug part number: 9545K115
Description on McMaster page:
Size 0 ; 17/32" x 21/32" OD
Without Holes.

Dimensions that I provided before are as measured. Dimensions above are nominal.

Vladimir
SM345 "LIFE IS DOOD"

On Feb 13, 2018 13:06, "Vladimir Sonsev" <sonsev52@...> wrote:
Eric,

The plugs have the  following dimensions:
Big OD 17 mm,
Small OD 13 mm,
Length 25 mm
Cut it to 6 or 6.5 mm length.
I thoroughly cleaned the cavities, applied grease on the screw head, and then plugged it. It works good. 

I don't have PN now. I will try to get PN when I have good WiFi connection. I am in D'Arlet, Martinique now.

Vladimir
202 258 1916

On Feb 12, 2018 09:49, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Alexandre,

The one that AMEL sent me are too big for my track.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 8:29 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...m


Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs

 

 

Good morning Eric,

They cost 0.10 Euro from Amel
http://www.nikimat.com/factures/2015_10_amel_facture.pdf

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 2/12/18, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Date: Monday, February 12, 2018, 6:46 AM


 









Vladimir,Do you have the part
number?Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@...m
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:57
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib
Track Plugs    I used back rubber plugs. I
cut them shorter. I installed them 2 years ago. I see no
problem yet. You can buy them from McMaster
very inexpensive.Vladimir
SM
345 "LIFE IS GOOD"  On Feb 10, 2018 16:13,
"greatketch@...
[amelyachtowners]
" <amelyachtowners@...om>
wrote:   
 Last year we replaced all the plugs
that keep water from sitting in the recesses around the
bolts that attach the jib track to the rail.  We ordered
them from Amel, and I was disappointed to find that they
were natural white polyethylene—not something I expected
to have a reasonable lifespan in sunlight.  Sure enough, a
year later they are all crumbling
away.
 Has
anybody found a better alternative?  Maybe black plastic?
 or anything else better able to handle sunlight? I
haven’t been able to track anything
down..
 In
the absence of a better alternative, I am thinking of
plugging the holes with silicone sealant.  Yes, it would be
something of a pain (but not impossible) to extract if I
ever needed to, but I really don’t want these bolts
soaking in salt water constantly.
 Bill KinneySM160, HarmonieFreeport,
Bahamas.
 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 54 TV lift

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi Alex
By bench did you mean the one at the back of the table on the port side?  I removed the panels behind the cushions and could not find the box?
Thanks
Courtney 
Trippin Amel 54 #101


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Gorman Center for Orthodontics
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765 662 0018
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Feb 13, 2018 01:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 54 TV lift


 

Hi,
there is a small metal box containing four fuses behind the bench. You'll have to remove the wooden cover. In my case it was just a fuse that didn't work anymore.
Best Regards,
Alex
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS
On Sunday, February 11, 2018, 11:34:13 AM GMT-4, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 

Inverter under navtable is on?






Re: 24v Dessalator motor stops under pressure

ya_fohi
 

Thanks to all who made suggestions. It turns out that it was in fact the pulley wheel. Strange that it should break gradually.
Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu: Location for watermaker

David Wallace
 

Miles,

One thing to add re installing you RO system. My low pressure feed pump is a Johnson Pumps CM30P7.  The pump is almost totally silent, but does need to be mounted below the waterline. It feeds the HP pump for my system that makes 35 gl/hr. It’s located in the engine room and has suffered no problems due to the heat, and has been in service for 5-6 years. I use the same model Johnson pump to feed the cooling circuit for our refrigeration, and it’s also in the engine room, and that pump has been in service for 16 years (knock on wood)! So that’s an option to consider.

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

On Feb 13, 2018, at 12:33 AM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Many thanks for that idea David

I’ll have a look at that when I’m next onboard

I was actually thinking I’d mount the reverse osmosis unit on the fibreglass tray behind the toilet but you have made me think that I could instead extend the shelves above the tray an place the unit in there

I suspect the lower the unit the better as the pump will have less work to do but perhaps the shelf would be a good option

All the very best

Miles


On 8 Feb 2018, at 18:35, David Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If you decide to place the unit outboard of the aft toilet, you can make more space by moving the shelf facing panel inboard such that it sits on the fiberglass base behind the toliet. We did this in both the forward and aft heads, extending the shelves about four inches, giving us quite a bit of more storage space with no interference with the toilet.


Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

On Feb 7, 2018, at 11:17 AM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks for this Michael 

I’ll have a look at that option 
My engine bay is flanked with batteries 
One side is service and starter
The other has a big battery for windlass and furler 
Plus I’ve 3 alternators  perhaps we all have. 
So not that much space for cat swinging 

But in many ways the engine bay would work well. 
Perhaps I could make a removable platform 

I’m not close to the boat at the mo but still curious about the option of between the aft toilet and the hull. Perhaps just for the RO unit 

I’ll send a few photos once I’ve settled on a good spot but very helpful to hear others experience so many thanks to those who responded 

Fair winds
M


On 4 Feb 2018, at 10:42, 'Michael Konz' mkbiz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I installed an Aquabase watermaker in the engine room. The pump went on a 
small platform besides the battery compartment and the main unit is wall 
mounted at the port side of the engine room as far forward as possible.
So I still have enough place in the engine room to do all the works.

Good luck
Michael







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 54 TV lift

Courtney Gorman
 

Awesome!  Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Feb 13, 2018 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 54 TV lift

 
Hi,
there is a small metal box containing four fuses behind the bench. You'll have to remove the wooden cover. In my case it was just a fuse that didn't work anymore.
Best Regards,
Alex
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS
On Sunday, February 11, 2018, 11:34:13 AM GMT-4, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Inverter under navtable is on?






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 54 TV lift

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi,
there is a small metal box containing four fuses behind the bench. You'll have to remove the wooden cover. In my case it was just a fuse that didn't work anymore.
Best Regards,
Alex
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS

On Sunday, February 11, 2018, 11:34:13 AM GMT-4, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Inverter under navtable is on?






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Eric,

The plugs have the  following dimensions:
Big OD 17 mm,
Small OD 13 mm,
Length 25 mm
Cut it to 6 or 6.5 mm length.
I thoroughly cleaned the cavities, applied grease on the screw head, and then plugged it. It works good. 

I don't have PN now. I will try to get PN when I have good WiFi connection. I am in D'Arlet, Martinique now.

Vladimir
202 258 1916

On Feb 12, 2018 09:49, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Alexandre,

The one that AMEL sent me are too big for my track.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 8:29 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com


Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs

 

 

Good morning Eric,

They cost 0.10 Euro from Amel
http://www.nikimat.com/factures/2015_10_amel_facture.pdf

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 2/12/18, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib Track Plugs
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 12, 2018, 6:46 AM


 









Vladimir,Do you have the part
number?Fair
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:57
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib
Track Plugs    I used back rubber plugs. I
cut them shorter. I installed them 2 years ago. I see no
problem yet. You can buy them from McMaster
very inexpensive.Vladimir
SM
345 "LIFE IS GOOD"  On Feb 10, 2018 16:13,
"greatketch@...
[amelyachtowners]
" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:   
 Last year we replaced all the plugs
that keep water from sitting in the recesses around the
bolts that attach the jib track to the rail.  We ordered
them from Amel, and I was disappointed to find that they
were natural white polyethylene—not something I expected
to have a reasonable lifespan in sunlight.  Sure enough, a
year later they are all crumbling
away.
 Has
anybody found a better alternative?  Maybe black plastic?
 or anything else better able to handle sunlight? I
haven’t been able to track anything
down..
 In
the absence of a better alternative, I am thinking of
plugging the holes with silicone sealant.  Yes, it would be
something of a pain (but not impossible) to extract if I
ever needed to, but I really don’t want these bolts
soaking in salt water constantly.
 Bill KinneySM160, HarmonieFreeport,
Bahamas.
 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

amelforme
 

Jeff, FYI, The 53 and 54 bow thrusters are entirely different . You are correct that the 54 incorporates a thermal limiter to keep it from going Chernobyl when overused. The 53 has no thermal or overcurrent protection of any kind. When I queried about the reason for this from the guy who designed it, Jacques Carteau , he said that in dire/extreme situations, he thought it was better to lose the bow thruster to overuse than to lose the boat, or severely damage it, due to the bow thruster taking a time out. Personally I prefer Carteaus method. All that said, the bow thruster on your boat was never abused when I owned it but I had to have the motor rebuilt right before I sold it to you as the brushes and the commutator didn’t play nice with each other. It worked fine until the moment it would not work at all. I’m glad I always test for forward and reverse and bow thruster both ways before the docklines come off. The day it failed was very windy and not with any options  to avoid catastrophe if I had cast off. You might not have wanted to buy what was left!

 

Enjoy your Amel, Joel

To avoid catastropheJoel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:03 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

 

 

Hi Paul, if the super maramus  thruster motors are made by sliepner, and they are a side power, as on the 54, there is a built in overheat switch. The switch itself will go (ask me how I know) and the unit will not function. Otherwise it will stop the unit from working until the motor cools again. It can be challenging docking here in le marin when its blowing hard and they cram you in like sardines.  Best Regards.                                                                                                           Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14

 

 

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

 

-------- Original message --------

From: pstas2003 <no_reply@...>

Date: 2/12/18 6:23 PM (GMT-04:00)

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

 

 

Hello Joel.  Nice to hear from you.

The coatings on the motor are fine.  What came out appears to be just oil.  We just serviced the unit 4 months ago.  I’m wondering if we may have added too much oil during the service although I don’t think so.

Thanks for taking the time to provide your thoughts.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising Martinique

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Wiring and French terms??

Ryan Meador
 

Is it hand-written, and thus might be "tom", for "tomber"?  That's French for "drop/fall/go down".  That's my only guess; some quick googling didn't turn up any other likely meanings.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Looking at the Bow Thruster wiring diagram in the Files section, there are four control wires going to the Thruster Linear Actuator.  Two are marked "lev" and two are marked "tem".  I am guessing "lev" stands for "lever" or "raise" in english. 


What does "tem" stand for?


Note that this is a 1987 drawing, so likely not representative of the current design.  Does anyone have a more up to date wiring diagram of the bow thruster, especially the linear actuator?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM stern bumper paint

Ryan Meador
 

Thanks, I'll look for a paint that works on both materials.

I don't really like the idea of a skirt for aesthetic and practical reasons.  I feel like it would have a hard time covering the whole thing and also not being slippery if you stepped on it.  Maybe my intuition is wrong; I'd love to see photos of such a skirt installed.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ryan,

Years ago, when I owned a Santorin, I asked the sailmaker (for canvas work) to make a skirt of white vinyl around the bumper with an elastic tensioning cord. It worked quite well and although I renewed last year the bumper on my SM, I will ask the canvas man in Combarro where my boat is now to give me a quotation for such a skirt for my old bumper.

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM 2K #351 "Kavanga"
 



Re: SM stern bumper paint

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Ryan,

Years ago, when I owned a Santorin, I asked the sailmaker (for canvas work) to make a skirt of white vinyl around the bumper with an elastic tensioning cord. It worked quite well and although I renewed last year the bumper on my SM, I will ask the canvas man in Combarro where my boat is now to give me a quotation for such a skirt for my old bumper.

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM 2K #351 "Kavanga"
 


Re: Alternator replacement

Rink De Haan
 

Thanks Paul & others. I’ll check when I am on the boat again.


Bamar MEJ1 Furlers

kwzy6vgkpvtfohjddjsrotobzwf2pjeafjwalhur@...
 

I was wondering if anyone knows what the specs are for the 24v motor that drives the Bamar MEJ1 furlers.  I want to buy a spare motor but the UK agent charges £766 inc VAT for it. This strikes me as excessively expensive. I bet that the motor itself would be available direct from its manufacturer for a fraction of that price. For example last year I bought two spare toothed belts for the Bamar, they cost me £49 each. Since then I have managed to source them direct for £6 each, simply by using the code stamped on the belt. Exactly the same belt, same quality, same size etc.


Nick S/Y Amelia (Amel 54 #019)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Hi Paul, if the super maramus  thruster motors are made by sliepner, and they are a side power, as on the 54, there is a built in overheat switch. The switch itself will go (ask me how I know) and the unit will not function. Otherwise it will stop the unit from working until the motor cools again. It can be challenging docking here in le marin when its blowing hard and they cram you in like sardines.  Best Regards.                                                                                                           Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
Date: 2/12/18 6:23 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

 

Hello Joel.  Nice to hear from you.

The coatings on the motor are fine.  What came out appears to be just oil.  We just serviced the unit 4 months ago.  I’m wondering if we may have added too much oil during the service although I don’t think so.

Thanks for taking the time to provide your thoughts.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising Martinique

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu: Location for watermaker

smiles bernard
 

Many thanks for that idea David
I’ll have a look at that when I’m next onboard

I was actually thinking I’d mount the reverse osmosis unit on the fibreglass tray behind the toilet but you have made me think that I could instead extend the shelves above the tray an place the unit in there

I suspect the lower the unit the better as the pump will have less work to do but perhaps the shelf would be a good option

All the very best

Miles


On 8 Feb 2018, at 18:35, David Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If you decide to place the unit outboard of the aft toilet, you can make more space by moving the shelf facing panel inboard such that it sits on the fiberglass base behind the toliet. We did this in both the forward and aft heads, extending the shelves about four inches, giving us quite a bit of more storage space with no interference with the toilet.


Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

On Feb 7, 2018, at 11:17 AM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks for this Michael 

I’ll have a look at that option 
My engine bay is flanked with batteries 
One side is service and starter
The other has a big battery for windlass and furler 
Plus I’ve 3 alternators  perhaps we all have. 
So not that much space for cat swinging 

But in many ways the engine bay would work well. 
Perhaps I could make a removable platform 

I’m not close to the boat at the mo but still curious about the option of between the aft toilet and the hull. Perhaps just for the RO unit 

I’ll send a few photos once I’ve settled on a good spot but very helpful to hear others experience so many thanks to those who responded 

Fair winds
M


On 4 Feb 2018, at 10:42, 'Michael Konz' mkbiz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I installed an Aquabase watermaker in the engine room. The pump went on a 
small platform besides the battery compartment and the main unit is wall 
mounted at the port side of the engine room as far forward as possible.
So I still have enough place in the engine room to do all the works.

Good luck
Michael




Re: SM stern bumper paint

greatketch@...
 

I used a water-based rubber paint formulation that was recommended both hypalon and PVC. It works well. In general, PVC is the more difficult material to get something to stick to because the plasticizers that are used to make it flexible tend to coat the surface with an "oily" layer.

The bumper appears to be a polyurethane foam.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Freeport, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

eric freedman
 

Hi Paul,

If it was oil and water then it would have been the lip seal on the thruster prop shaft.

 

If it is 100% oil, then my guess is that you added more than .3 liters of oil to the thruster, or you did not drain it completely.

I had some liquid grease drip down the bow thruster towards the shaft lip seal. My thruster started making a grinding noise.

I found that the lower bearing of the motor had come apart and the grease had liquefied,

I had the motor overhauled with a new bearing and all is well, The motor was also very hot with the bad bearing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pstas2003
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 5:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

 

 

Hello Eric.  I hope all is well.

I appears to be just oil.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising Martinique

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Joel.  Nice to hear from you.

The coatings on the motor are fine.  What came out appears to be just oil.  We just serviced the unit 4 months ago.  I’m wondering if we may have added too much oil during the service although I don’t think so.

Thanks for taking the time to provide your thoughts.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising Martinique

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Abuse

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Eric.  I hope all is well.

I appears to be just oil.

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising Martinique

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Alternator replacement

Paul Osterberg
 

Rink
In Nydri just south Levkas in the strait (Tranquil bay)  leading in to the almost landlocked  You find a man who in his workshop do repair at very reasonable cost most alternators. I do not remember his name, but you can ask in any chandlery there and they can direct you to him. He made an overhaul on our alternator changed bearings all for 70 euro if I remember right.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259