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OLDER MARAMU RUB RAIL REPLACEMENT

Alejandro Paquin

#38270

Good morning to all,

I have removed the old rubrail from our boat. It is on the hard now, getting some serious done work on the hull and the keel.

The rubrail was in place with one inch aluminum nails. I am replacing the whole thing with an Amel supplied spare. Has anyone done this? Can one use a nail gun to put in the new nails?

Any suggestions?

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Older Maramu 1981, #94

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#38269

Good morning Greg,

I paid once a year at the beginning of the insurance year (October for me).

I was likely to move to Y yachts, we had been in communication.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Wed, 2/28/18, Gregory Shea gmshea@hotmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.
 To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
 Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 5:43 PM

 Alexandre, 
 I was wondering if
 you paid all of the annual premium at the beginning of the
 insurance year or were you paying it month by month? I used
 to have Helvetia, I now have Y Yachts. 

 Greg Shea

 Sharki 133, Cap des Iles

 Catania

 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
 <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of
 Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
 [amelyachtowners]
  <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>

 Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:23 PM

 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

 Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update -
 still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

 Good afternoon Danny,

 The insurance is Helvetia/GroupAma contracted through
 Insurance De Lassee.

 Here is the latest, sorry it is in French see below:

 In short, even thought my boat is a total loss, and even
 thought my lawyer wrote them a letter after the January
 letter saying I was late to pay the premium, I should have
 sent a certified letter.

 So now I am late for the payment and are going to take legal
 action to get the paiement plus fees to recover that
 paiement ?!?

 This is absolutely crazy.

 Here is the french message:

 Conformément à votre demande, la

 résiliation du contrat d’assurance pour non-paiement
 de

 la prime est prévue par l’article L 113-3 du code des

 assurances qui stipule :

 « …A défaut de paiement d’une

 prime ou d’une fraction de prime, dans les dix jours de

 son échéance, et indépendamment du droit pour

 l’assureur de poursuivre l’exécution du contrat en

 justice, la garantie ne peut être suspendue que trente

 jours après la mise en demeure de l’assuré. Au cas
 où

 la prime annuelle a été fractionnée, la suspension de
 la

 garantie, intervenue en cas de non-paiement d’une des

 fractions de prime, produit ses effets jusqu’à

 l’expiration de la période annuelle considérée. La

 prime ou fraction de prime est portable dans tous les
 cas,

 après la mise en demeure de l’assuré.

   L’assureur a le droit de résilier

 le contrat dix jours après l’expiration du délai de

 trente jours mentionné au deuxième alinéa du présent

 article.

   Le contrat non résilié reprend pour

 l’avenir ses effets, à midi le lendemain du jour où
 ont

 été payés à l’assureur ou au mandataire désigné
 par

 lui à cet effet, la prime arriérée ou, en cas de

 fractionnement de la prime annuelle, les fractions de
 prime

 ayant fait l’objet de la mise en demeure et celles
 venues

 à échéance pendant la période de suspension ainsi
 que,

 éventuellement, les frais de poursuites et de
 recouvrement.

 »

 --------------------------------------------

 On Wed, 2/28/18, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@xtra.co.nz
 [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still
 asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

 Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 11:46 AM

 They never let up do they. You will need to remind us

 who this company is.Kind RegardsDannySM

 299 Ocean PearlOn 01 March 2018 at 02:13

 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com

 [amelyachtowners]"

 <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

   Good morning,

 Even thought I said I

 would wait the insurance issue to be solved to post the

 entire story, I have to post what is going on now and
 again

 URGE ALL OF YOU to reread their insurance policies.

 January 5, my insurance sent

 me a letter saying I was late to pay the insurance
 premium

 (due by November 2017).

 Prior the January

 5 letter I never received any letter, email, etc. asking
 to

 renew the insurance which seems logical since NIKIMAT
 sunk

 September 6 and was declared soon after a total loss by
 the

 insurance…

 Despite a

 letter from my lawyer, the insurance just sent me another

 letter yesterday threatening to “sue” me because I
 still

 haven’t paid the premium.

 They insist I still owe the premium and sent

 me the articles they are basing themselves (that is in

 French).

 I suspect they

 refer to article 8.4.4

 “en cas de perte

 totale, vol totale et délaissement de votre bateau

 assure”.

 (in short: in case of total

 loss so my case)

 THEN it says:

 “L’assurance prend fin de plein droit le

 jour ou l’indemnite correspondante vous sera
 réglée”.

 (in short it says the insurance will stop

 the day I will be reimbursed for the boat).

 So in other words, as long as the insurance is

 not settled, I still owe the insurance ?!? Seriously?
 Crazy.

 Since they are offering

 75% of the agreed value and my lawyer is suing them to

 collect the full amount and the insurance wait each time

 “1 month” to reply a message (just like they did to
 me

 in Nassau) this can take several months possibly years

 (since I am still not fully reimburse from the accident
 in

 Nassau over 3 years ago).

 For information, my lawyer told me NOT TO PAY

 that premium.

 Bandits,

 crooks, dishonest, gangsters, etc. are the words that
 come

 to my head now.

 Sincerely,

 Alexandre

OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL

Alejandro Paquin

#38268

Good morning to all,

Has anyone in this group ever removed the rudder from an Older Maramu? Is this possible?

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Older Maramu #94, 1981

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion

Peter Forbes

#38267

I agree with Bill. Our 54 has normal centre line double berth which is redundant on passage despite Lee boards.

Peter

Carango

Amel 54 # 035

St Lucia

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On 1 Mar 2018, at 02:14, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Jay,

I had that nightmare once.😀 I don't want to be rude, but the very best advice I can give to you, or anyone considering an Amel is wait until you own your Amel for a year before you start redesigning it. If you are like every Amel owner I know, you will be thankful for this advice. And if there is a feature that Amel doesn't offer that you want and cannot do without it, you are looking at the wrong brand.

BTW, Amel 54, 55, and 64 have center line berths. They are not so good for passage making.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mar 1, 2018 10:51, "Jay Hosford [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Anyone ever thought of converting the master berth to a centerline? Saw a super maramu done this way the other day. Looked nice. Interested in what the pros and cons are

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion

james Hosford

#38266

Well that was my concern. It looks good on the new modern boats but is it practical if you are going to sail it. Be nice to still be able to wedge against the bulkhead when its rough.

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On Feb 28, 2018, at 8:14 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Jay,

I had that nightmare once.😀 I don't want to be rude, but the very best advice I can give to you, or anyone considering an Amel is wait until you own your Amel for a year before you start redesigning it. If you are like every Amel owner I know, you will be thankful for this advice. And if there is a feature that Amel doesn't offer that you want and cannot do without it, you are looking at the wrong brand.

BTW, Amel 54, 55, and 64 have center line berths. They are not so good for passage making.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mar 1, 2018 10:51, "Jay Hosford [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Anyone ever thought of converting the master berth to a centerline? Saw a super maramu done this way the other day. Looked nice. Interested in what the pros and cons are

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>

#38265

Jay,

I had that nightmare once.😀 I don't want to be rude, but the very best advice I can give to you, or anyone considering an Amel is wait until you own your Amel for a year before you start redesigning it. If you are like every Amel owner I know, you will be thankful for this advice. And if there is a feature that Amel doesn't offer that you want and cannot do without it, you are looking at the wrong brand.

BTW, Amel 54, 55, and 64 have center line berths. They are not so good for passage making.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

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On Mar 1, 2018 10:51, "Jay Hosford [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Anyone ever thought of converting the master berth to a centerline? Saw a super maramu done this way the other day. Looked nice. Interested in what the pros and cons are

Berth conversion

james Hosford

#38264

Anyone ever thought of converting the master berth to a centerline?  Saw a super maramu done this way the other day.   Looked nice.   Interested in  what the pros and cons are

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

Gregory Shea

#38263

Alexandre,

I was wondering if you paid all of the annual premium at the beginning of the insurance year or were you paying it month by month? I used to have Helvetia, I now have Y Yachts.

Greg Shea
Sharki 133, Cap des Iles

Catania

From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

Good afternoon Danny,

The insurance is Helvetia/GroupAma contracted through Insurance De Lassee.

Here is the latest, sorry it is in French see below:

In short, even thought my boat is a total loss, and even thought my lawyer wrote them a letter after the January letter saying I was late to pay the premium, I should have sent a certified letter.
So now I am late for the payment and are going to take legal action to get the paiement plus fees to recover that paiement ?!?
This is absolutely crazy.

Here is the french message:

Conformément à votre demande, la
résiliation du contrat d’assurance pour non-paiement de
la prime est prévue par l’article L 113-3 du code des
assurances qui stipule :

« …A défaut de paiement d’une
prime ou d’une fraction de prime, dans les dix jours de
son échéance, et indépendamment du droit pour
l’assureur de poursuivre l’exécution du contrat en
justice, la garantie ne peut être suspendue que trente
jours après la mise en demeure de l’assuré. Au cas où
la prime annuelle a été fractionnée, la suspension de la
garantie, intervenue en cas de non-paiement d’une des
fractions de prime, produit ses effets jusqu’à
l’expiration de la période annuelle considérée. La
prime ou fraction de prime est portable dans tous les cas,
après la mise en demeure de l’assuré.
L’assureur a le droit de résilier
le contrat dix jours après l’expiration du délai de
trente jours mentionné au deuxième alinéa du présent
article.
Le contrat non résilié reprend pour
l’avenir ses effets, à midi le lendemain du jour où ont
été payés à l’assureur ou au mandataire désigné par
lui à cet effet, la prime arriérée ou, en cas de
fractionnement de la prime annuelle, les fractions de prime
ayant fait l’objet de la mise en demeure et celles venues
à échéance pendant la période de suspension ainsi que,
éventuellement, les frais de poursuites et de recouvrement.
»

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On Wed, 2/28/18, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 11:46 AM

They never let up do they. You will need to remind us
who this company is.Kind RegardsDannySM
299 Ocean PearlOn 01 March 2018 at 02:13
"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"
wrote:

Good morning,

Even thought I said I
would wait the insurance issue to be solved to post the
entire story, I have to post what is going on now and again
URGE ALL OF YOU to reread their insurance policies.

January 5, my insurance sent
me a letter saying I was late to pay the insurance premium
(due by November 2017).
Prior the January
5 letter I never received any letter, email, etc. asking to
renew the insurance which seems logical since NIKIMAT sunk
September 6 and was declared soon after a total loss by the
insurance…

Despite a
letter from my lawyer, the insurance just sent me another
letter yesterday threatening to “sue” me because I still
haven’t paid the premium.

They insist I still owe the premium and sent
me the articles they are basing themselves (that is in
French).

I suspect they
refer to article 8.4.4
“en cas de perte
totale, vol totale et délaissement de votre bateau
assure”.
(in short: in case of total
loss so my case)
THEN it says:
“L’assurance prend fin de plein droit le
jour ou l’indemnite correspondante vous sera réglée”.

(in short it says the insurance will stop
the day I will be reimbursed for the boat).
So in other words, as long as the insurance is
not settled, I still owe the insurance ?!? Seriously? Crazy.

Since they are offering
75% of the agreed value and my lawyer is suing them to
collect the full amount and the insurance wait each time
“1 month” to reply a message (just like they did to me
in Nassau) this can take several months possibly years
(since I am still not fully reimburse from the accident in
Nassau over 3 years ago).

For information, my lawyer told me NOT TO PAY
that premium.

Bandits,
crooks, dishonest, gangsters, etc. are the words that come
to my head now.

Sincerely,
Alexandre

Posted by: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS

How to repair holes left by old electronics at nav station

Duane Siegfri

#38262

I have a Furuno GP7000 at the nav station that I'm going to replace with an ICOM M506-21 VHF radio (also has AIS RX and is N2K compliant). This seemed like a good choice since it will be an AIS backup and includes the ability to add a remote handset, and has the PA/Foghorn features.

The Furuno has a face dimension of about 12" x 6" and the M506 has a faceplate of 7" x 4.5" so I need to cover the old cutout.

I'm thinking of dark plexiglass, but that tends to become less attractive over time as it dulls. I don't think I would like bare aluminum, although I could paint the aluminum black...

Any other ideas out there?

Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#38261

Good afternoon Danny,

The insurance is Helvetia/GroupAma contracted through Insurance De Lassee.

Here is the latest, sorry it is in French see below:

In short, even thought my boat is a total loss, and even thought my lawyer wrote them a letter after the January letter saying I was late to pay the premium, I should have sent a certified letter.
So now I am late for the payment and are going to take legal action to get the paiement plus fees to recover that paiement ?!?
This is absolutely crazy.

Here is the french message:

Conformément à votre demande, la
résiliation du contrat d’assurance pour non-paiement de
la prime est prévue par l’article L 113-3 du code des
assurances qui stipule :

« …A défaut de paiement d’une
prime ou d’une fraction de prime, dans les dix jours de
son échéance, et indépendamment du droit pour
l’assureur de poursuivre l’exécution du contrat en
justice, la garantie ne peut être suspendue que trente
jours après la mise en demeure de l’assuré. Au cas où
la prime annuelle a été fractionnée, la suspension de la
garantie, intervenue en cas de non-paiement d’une des
fractions de prime, produit ses effets jusqu’à
l’expiration de la période annuelle considérée. La
prime ou fraction de prime est portable dans tous les cas,
après la mise en demeure de l’assuré.
  L’assureur a le droit de résilier
le contrat dix jours après l’expiration du délai de
trente jours mentionné au deuxième alinéa du présent
article.
  Le contrat non résilié reprend pour
l’avenir ses effets, à midi le lendemain du jour où ont
été payés à l’assureur ou au mandataire désigné par
lui à cet effet, la prime arriérée ou, en cas de
fractionnement de la prime annuelle, les fractions de prime
ayant fait l’objet de la mise en demeure et celles venues
à échéance pendant la période de suspension ainsi que,
éventuellement, les frais de poursuites et de recouvrement.
»





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On Wed, 2/28/18, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@xtra.co.nz [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.
 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 11:46 AM

 They never let up do they. You will need to remind us
 who this company is.Kind RegardsDannySM
 299 Ocean PearlOn 01 March 2018 at 02:13
 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
 [amelyachtowners]"
 <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    Good morning,

  Even thought I said I
 would wait the insurance issue to be solved to post the
 entire story, I have to post what is going on now and again
 URGE ALL OF YOU to reread their insurance policies.

  January 5, my insurance sent
 me a letter saying I was late to pay the insurance premium
 (due by November 2017).
  Prior the January
 5 letter I never received any letter, email, etc. asking to
 renew the insurance which seems logical since NIKIMAT sunk
 September 6 and was declared soon after a total loss by the
 insurance…

  Despite a
 letter from my lawyer, the insurance just sent me another
 letter yesterday threatening to “sue” me because I still
 haven’t paid the premium.

  They insist I still owe the premium and sent
 me the articles they are basing themselves (that is in
 French).

  I suspect they
 refer to article 8.4.4
  “en cas de perte
 totale, vol totale et délaissement de votre bateau
 assure”.
  (in short: in case of total
 loss so my case)
  THEN it says:
  “L’assurance prend fin de plein droit le
 jour ou l’indemnite correspondante vous sera réglée”.

  (in short it says the insurance will stop
 the day I will be reimbursed for the boat).
  So in other words, as long as the insurance is
 not settled, I still owe the insurance ?!? Seriously? Crazy.

  Since they are offering
 75% of the agreed value and my lawyer is suing them to
 collect the full amount and the insurance wait each time
 “1 month” to reply a message (just like they did to me
 in Nassau) this can take several months possibly years
 (since I am still not fully reimburse from the accident in
 Nassau over 3 years ago).

  For information, my lawyer told me NOT TO PAY
 that premium.

  Bandits,
 crooks, dishonest, gangsters, etc. are the words that come
 to my head now.

 Sincerely,
 Alexandre

         Posted by: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 <simms@xtra.co.nz>

Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

Duane Siegfri

#38259

Thanks for the replies everyone.

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

Duane Siegfri

#38260

Alan,

Didn't mean to mislead you, but I was asking about Maretron, and just giving some background as to why I was looking.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS

#38258

They never let up do they. You will need to remind us who this company is.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

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On 01 March 2018 at 02:13 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning,

Even thought I said I would wait the insurance issue to be solved to post the entire story, I have to post what is going on now and again URGE ALL OF YOU to reread their insurance policies.

January 5, my insurance sent me a letter saying I was late to pay the insurance premium (due by November 2017).
Prior the January 5 letter I never received any letter, email, etc. asking to renew the insurance which seems logical since NIKIMAT sunk September 6 and was declared soon after a total loss by the insurance…

Despite a letter from my lawyer, the insurance just sent me another letter yesterday threatening to “sue” me because I still haven’t paid the premium.

They insist I still owe the premium and sent me the articles they are basing themselves (that is in French).

I suspect they refer to article 8.4.4
“en cas de perte totale, vol totale et délaissement de votre bateau assure”.
(in short: in case of total loss so my case)
THEN it says:
“L’assurance prend fin de plein droit le jour ou l’indemnite correspondante vous sera réglée”.
(in short it says the insurance will stop the day I will be reimbursed for the boat).
So in other words, as long as the insurance is not settled, I still owe the insurance ?!? Seriously? Crazy.

Since they are offering 75% of the agreed value and my lawyer is suing them to collect the full amount and the insurance wait each time “1 month” to reply a message (just like they did to me in Nassau) this can take several months possibly years (since I am still not fully reimburse from the accident in Nassau over 3 years ago).

For information, my lawyer told me NOT TO PAY that premium.

Bandits, crooks, dishonest, gangsters, etc. are the words that come to my head now.

Sincerely, Alexandre

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>

#38257

Hello Alexandre,

I feel for you.

However, insurance companies all act as you are witnessing first hand.

Best of luck,

Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM 007.

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On 28 Feb 2018, at 08:13, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Good morning,

Even thought I said I would wait the insurance issue to be solved to post the entire story, I have to post what is going on now and again URGE ALL OF YOU to reread their insurance policies.

January 5, my insurance sent me a letter saying I was late to pay the insurance premium (due by November 2017).
Prior the January 5 letter I never received any letter, email, etc. asking to renew the insurance which seems logical since NIKIMAT sunk September 6 and was declared soon after a total loss by the insurance…

Despite a letter from my lawyer, the insurance just sent me another letter yesterday threatening to “sue” me because I still haven’t paid the premium.

They insist I still owe the premium and sent me the articles they are basing themselves (that is in French).

I suspect they refer to article 8.4.4
“en cas de perte totale, vol totale et délaissement de votre bateau assure”.
(in short: in case of total loss so my case)
THEN it says:
“L’assurance prend fin de plein droit le jour ou l’indemnite correspondante vous sera réglée”.
(in short it says the insurance will stop the day I will be reimbursed for the boat).
So in other words, as long as the insurance is not settled, I still owe the insurance ?!? Seriously? Crazy.

Since they are offering 75% of the agreed value and my lawyer is suing them to collect the full amount and the insurance wait each time “1 month” to reply a message (just like they did to me in Nassau) this can take several months possibly years (since I am still not fully reimburse from the accident in Nassau over 3 years ago).

For information, my lawyer told me NOT TO PAY that premium.

Bandits, crooks, dishonest, gangsters, etc. are the words that come to my head now.

Sincerely, Alexandre
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[Amel Yacht Owners] INSURANCE update - still asking me to pay premium after boat sunk.

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#38256

Good morning,

Even thought I said I would wait the insurance issue to be solved to post the entire story, I have to post what is going on now and again URGE ALL OF YOU to reread their insurance policies.

January 5, my insurance sent me a letter saying I was late to pay the insurance premium (due by November 2017).
Prior the January 5 letter I never received any letter, email, etc. asking to renew the insurance which seems logical since NIKIMAT sunk September 6 and was declared soon after a total loss by the insurance…

Despite a letter from my lawyer, the insurance just sent me another letter yesterday threatening to “sue” me because I still haven’t paid the premium.

They insist I still owe the premium and sent me the articles they are basing themselves (that is in French).

I suspect they refer to article 8.4.4
“en cas de perte totale, vol totale et délaissement de votre bateau assure”.
(in short: in case of total loss so my case)
THEN it says:
“L’assurance prend fin de plein droit le jour ou l’indemnite correspondante vous sera réglée”.
(in short it says the insurance will stop the day I will be reimbursed for the boat).
So in other words, as long as the insurance is not settled, I still owe the insurance ?!?  Seriously?  Crazy.

Since they are offering 75% of the agreed value and my lawyer is suing them to collect the full amount and the insurance wait each time “1 month” to reply a message (just like they did to me in Nassau) this can take several months possibly years (since I am still not fully reimburse from the accident in Nassau over 3 years ago).

For information, my lawyer told me NOT TO PAY that premium.

Bandits, crooks, dishonest, gangsters, etc. are the words that come to my head now.

Sincerely, Alexandre

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response

Patrick McAneny

#38255

Mark, I will third that , Scott was helpful to me with a couple of issues I had , and I too have recommended Scott and Pantaenius to friends , and at least one has switch over to them for coverage. I had a claim due to a nearby lightning strike and Pantaenius covered every penny of the claim without complaint . I think it is an appropriate use of this forum to convey both good and bad experiences members may have with vendors of any description. By doing so we may save fellow owners from a bad experience , and excellence is rewarded and poor performance is not. I just got a key fob , no pen.

Pat

SM Shenanigans

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-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Feb 26, 2018 5:07 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response

We second this. Scott is an excellent resource and very easy to do business with. Unlike Joel, I didn’t get ink pens or key floats. Not sure what I did wrong J But, we still like Scott anyway.

We have recommended several people to Scott and every one of them have thanked us for the referral.

With best regards,

Mark

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 11:47 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: 'Stusek, Scott (Pantaenius)'
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response
Importance: High

Hello Amel Folks.

I have used Scott Stusek to insure my Amel Boats and have recommended him to my customers with confidence. He has some solid traits to recommend him. He always tells the truth AND the whole story even when it is painful to do so. He knows his company’s policies and can delineate any area of concern in hairsplitting detail if asked to. He always returns phone calls pronto. Other than that…meh.

Yes, he buys my loyalty. Got a great big sack of Pantaenius ink pens and key floats. Hanspeter, I’ll send you a couple of each if you send me your address.

I’ve been selling boats for over four decades. No other insurance person has earned my respect as well as Scott has. Please read the attachments below for some important information.

All The Best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

From: Stusek, Scott (Pantaenius) [mailto:SStusek@...]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 8:36 AM
To: 'Vela' <jfpottercys@...>
Subject: FW: AMEL forum response
Importance: High

Joel & Vela,

I saw on the Amel forum where one of our insureds said we are no longer writing or updating current policies for full time south of the Fl/GA line. This is not true. We just have some changed requirements such as being able to conform to one of several named tropical storm plans. We drafted the below email to try and clear up the potential controversy If you could, please post it on the Amel forum as its probably inappropriate for me to do so. You can also say that after discussing with Scott Stusek, an underwriter at Pantaenius America you discovered the following details…. Feel free to call me to discuss beforehand if you would like.

Scott Stusek

Pantaenius America, Ltd

443-569-7995

Scott, below if the response to be posted on the Amel forum. It was written assuming Joel will be posting. Please let me know if he has an issue posting it.

Pantaenius insured vessels that fall within their current guidelines absolutely have coverage while below 30.5 degrees north latitude if the Cruising Area stated on their declaration pages allows.

With regards to coverage during storm season, (July 15^th through November 1^{st ) ,}Pantaenius requires that the vessel be secured per Pantaenius storm requirements. Pantaenius now offers options for insured clients to choose how best to secure their vessel—one of which is to move the vessel out of the path of the storm.

It is important to recognize that Pantaenius America will cover your vessel in the event of a named tropical storm as long as you comply with your stated requirements. It is also very important to understand that outside of the storm season (again storm season for Pantaenius America is July 15 – November 1^st), this storm warranty does NOT apply. Bottom line: Pantaenius is still offering coverage for Florida and the Caribbean even during storm season.

Sincerely,

Janet Bianco | Senior Vice President

Pantaenius America, Ltd.

500 Mamaroneck Avenue |Harrison, NY 10528 | United States of America

Phone: 914-381-2066 | Fax: 914-381-2052 | www.pantaenius.com

This electronic transmission is strictly confidential and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us and delete the received data as soon as possible.
This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses.
Coverage is not considered bound or amended by Pantaenius America until you have received a Binder, Policy, or Endorsement evidencing your request.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission and c drive question please.

Porter McRoberts

#38254

Sorry Eric.

Many thanks

Porter

54-152.

St Thomas.

Excuse the errors.

Sent from my IPhone

Www.fouribis.com

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On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:34 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Porter,
It would be easier to answer your questions if you mentioned what type of Amel you have.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission and c drive question please.

The fun has just started! Thank you Craig for confirming my suspicions!!! I really appreciate you and this group.
Porter
Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com

On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:03 AM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Porter,
Assuming the 54 is configured like the SM and SN's, no, you'll need to uncouple the engine from the C drive and slide the engine back remove the tranny. While you could remove the C drive top cover, you still would not be able to remove the drive shaft (still coupled to the tranny) as it goes through the "trumpet" housing.
Have fun,
Craig Briggs, SN#68

---In amelyachtowners@..., <portermcroberts@...> wrote :
To get the transmission off the front of the engine.
Can one raise the cap off the c drive?
The c drive gearbox?

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response

sailormon <kimberlite@...>

#38253

Jeff,

I am insured south of 31N to 7 n from November 1 to July 15 with Pantaenius.

I am also insured from 60 w to but not including the Panama Canal.

One time due to a storm we had to sail to about 54 w to get around it.

After we did that they said at Pantaenius that we would have been covered if we were heading outside the limits due to the storm.

We probably have the same policy.

Fair Winds

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 10:03 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response

I recently spoke to Scott about my policy. I am covered down to 7N. I was following the insurance thread but not totally, and perhaps misread the navigation limits that were discussed. My understanding is that getting a policy from Pantaenious isn't a given, but i was not denied coverage south of 31N

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------

From: "'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 2/26/18 11:47 AM (GMT-04:00)

To: amelyachtowners@...

Cc: "'Stusek, Scott (Pantaenius)'" <SStusek@...>

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response

Hello Amel Folks.

I have used Scott Stusek to insure my Amel Boats and have recommended him to my
customers with confidence. He has some solid traits to recommend him. He always tells
the truth AND the whole story even when it is painful to do so. He knows his
company's policies and can delineate any area of concern in hairsplitting detail if
asked to. He always returns phone calls pronto. Other than that.meh.

Yes, he buys my loyalty. Got a great big sack of Pantaenius ink pens and key floats.
Hanspeter, I'll send you a couple of each if you send me your address.

I've been selling boats for over four decades. No other insurance person has earned
my respect as well as Scott has. Please read the attachments below for some important
information.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response

JEFFREY KRAUS

#38252

I recently spoke to Scott about my policy. I am covered down to 7N. I was following the insurance thread but not totally, and perhaps misread the navigation limits that were discussed. My understanding is that getting a policy from Pantaenious isn't a given, but i was not denied coverage south of 31N

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

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-------- Original message --------

From: "'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 2/26/18 11:47 AM (GMT-04:00)

To: amelyachtowners@...

Cc: "'Stusek, Scott (Pantaenius)'" <SStusek@...>

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: AMEL forum response

Hello Amel Folks.

I have used Scott Stusek to insure my Amel Boats and have recommended him to my
customers with confidence. He has some solid traits to recommend him. He always tells
the truth AND the whole story even when it is painful to do so. He knows his
company's policies and can delineate any area of concern in hairsplitting detail if
asked to. He always returns phone calls pronto. Other than that.meh.

Yes, he buys my loyalty. Got a great big sack of Pantaenius ink pens and key floats.
Hanspeter, I'll send you a couple of each if you send me your address.

I've been selling boats for over four decades. No other insurance person has earned
my respect as well as Scott has. Please read the attachments below for some important
information.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission and c drive question please.

sailormon <kimberlite@...>

#38251

Hi Porter,

It would be easier to answer your questions if you mentioned what type of Amel you have.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transmission and c drive question please.

The fun has just started! Thank you Craig for confirming my suspicions!!! I really appreciate you and this group.

Porter

Excuse the errors.

Sent from my IPhone

Www.fouribis.com

On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:03 AM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Porter,
Assuming the 54 is configured like the SM and SN's, no, you'll need to uncouple the engine from the C drive and slide the engine back remove the tranny. While you could remove the C drive top cover, you still would not be able to remove the drive shaft (still coupled to the tranny) as it goes through the "trumpet" housing.
Have fun,
Craig Briggs, SN#68

---In amelyachtowners@..., <portermcroberts@...> wrote :
To get the transmission off the front of the engine.
Can one raise the cap off the c drive?
The c drive gearbox?