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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bamar Upgrade Program
Teun BAAS <teunbaas@...>
Hi Bill,
Thanks for this recommendation – will consider.
Best regards
Teun BAAS AMELIT A54 128
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:58 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bamar Upgrade Program
Mark,
I think that this is a good deal and I would urge any 54 owner who has not upgraded his Bamar furlers from the original belt-driven model to the new gear-driven model to take advantage of this offer.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 3:22 PM, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Peter, On my 53 Kimberlite we had a fresh air system that took fresh air from the cockpit and blew it into the aft cabin, the main cabin , and the forward cabin.
It was relatively easy to install an espar heater into this system. If you do not have a fresh air system , adding the ductwork, I believe , would be a nightmare.
I bought my espar from a company in England on eBay. It was a complete heater including the installation kit. I see it on eBay now for $2360- US You just have to order the 24 volt unit- same price.
They are very helpful and deliver the unit so quickly it is amazing. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 5:27 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill,
Amel just told me €12,000 and that only if we have “ provision for heating ducts in place.i have no idea whether we have those provisions or not. Sadly I suspect not - so it could be even more.
Any thoughts?
Peter Peter Forbes 00447836 209730
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Sail Furler
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi Pat , What boat do you have? Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 3:50 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Sail Furler
For some time in heavy air while furling the main , the motor did not seem strong enough. I now believe it may have been that the furler had a bearing that was near seizing . Last fall the main would not roll out , assuming it was the motor , I used a winch handle and the it would not budge , eventually I broke it free and sailed on. At the end of the season I dismantled the gearbox and found the tapered bearing was completely seized. So if you think your furler is a littlle slow/weak , you may want to have a look inside. Duane posted some pics that were helpful . It took me longer to find the seals than the bearings, so I thought I would post the bearing and seal info and sources. Bearings: Source , Motion Industries - Tapered bearing item # 32009xm-90kmi , Bore 45mm, OD. 75mm, Width 20mm , Manufacturer Timken Ball Bearing , item # 9105k Bore 25mm, OD. 47mm, Width 12mm Manufacturer Fafnir Oil Seals : Source , Metric Seals Inc. 45mmX60mmX7mm 25mmX33mm X6mm You will need one each of bearings and seals Pat SM Shenanigans
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
Oh, that is funny ‘target of opportunity’ is right! First hand knowledge. Sorry keep it technical.
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Re: Main Sail Furler
Duane Siegfri
Pat,
Great information! Thanks for posting it, I made a jpg out of your post and posted it with the photos of the manual winch. Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Extra halyard???
Duane Siegfri
I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader. The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it. I don't know the reason for it. #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book). The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader? Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: Hydra 2000 internal batteries
Duane Siegfri
I just did Bill, thanks for the information. For the record Bill noted that the Wheelhouse Marketing in Ft. Lauderdale is a repair facility for B&G.
Duane
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
Having neither owned nor sailed a SM, but nevertheless a major Delos fan, I think the 54 berth situation is fantastic. Lee boards are terrific. We just sailed 8 nights and through some rough stuff. The big bed allows for switching angles easily and sleeping crosswise as earlier said. The Lee boards are sturdy and perfectly placed. There also is then a his and hers side to the berth and storage.
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When I wake up I’m just so jazzed to even be on this boat. Porter and Helen S/V Ibis 54-152 Tortola.
On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:20 PM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
calbyy@...
hello there did not find the step by step but from memor ... 1.- ensure that your boat ishigh engough on blocks to allow the rudder to be slipped down when released from holdings; see drawings for approximate measurement 200 mm + add height for wooden blocks to rest on & lever to be inserted to slip back in place when finished. 2.- rest rudder on wooden blocks before removings bolt or top part 3.- careful with bronze rod going to BLU ground plate when sanding down gel coat layers; can be repaired by soldering if cut inadvertendly ... 4.- remove bolts & stainless steel holders (crapaudine 4 is the bottom one femelot 3 is the intermediate one; this one gave me the shivers as I thought it locked tight when in fact it is preformed and opens up when bolts are untightened. 5.- bielletes 5 top of rudder Under berth to be opened (remove bolts & nuts); nylon (delrin) screw on stuffing to be removed 6.- support rudder with long lever from bottom, remove wooden blocks & support rudder when coming down slowly. 2 sets of strong arms can do the trlck. 7.- lay it down & whilst on ground check for cracks on resin alongside the StSteel shaft (signs of grounding in the past); Time to repair if found 8.- prepare already stuffing cord to replace old one top of rudder; holding nut can be fastened by hand & will need to be re-tightened after a few hours sailing anyway 9.- rebuilding is reverse action (replace bolts & nuts if needed. Hope this is clear; Nothing to it really, just needs to be tackled when all is prepared good rebuild christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Le Marin
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Re: Main Sail Furler
Duane Siegfri
Thanks Pat. There's a lot of boats that will be needing that info.
Duane
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Re: Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
calbyy@...
good evening first of all drawings - set attached in .jpg if too heavy will compress or convert to .pdf rgds christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Le Marin
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill,
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Thanks for that - I’ll take a look. Peter Peter Forbes 00447836 209730
On 1 Mar 2018, at 22:33, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Peter, They are speaking of the "Forced Air Ventilation." Look under your companionway steps between the first and second steps. Is there a round black plastic vent? If yes, you have it, if no, more money to install. Good luck. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mar 2, 2018 09:27, "Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill,
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Amel just told me €12,000 and that only if we have “ provision for heating ducts in place.i have no idea whether we have those provisions or not. Sadly I suspect not - so it could be even more. Any thoughts? Peter Peter Forbes 00447836 209730
On 1 Mar 2018, at 20:28, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
smiles bernard
Many thanks Oliver and James
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Alex that sounds like quite a project ! I’ve never seen a re gelcoat job before. My 1985 maramu has been painted above the waterline and is in need of a refurb at some point. I had assumed it’d be a vinyl wrap?? or most likely awlgrip I’d be interested in the process you are using and if you think its significantly more costly than the paint job alternative. Appreciate that the answer depends on how much is done by others vs diy. All the best Miles
On 1 Mar 2018, at 20:02, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
Mohammad Shirloo
I
couldn't agree more with Joel. The Aft cabin of the 54 is one of our favorite
areas and has made the time on board a pleasure. We have not yet made any long
distance passages, so I cannot comment on utilizing the aft cabin at sea. As a
couple on board, I've always imagined that we would use the sea berth
anyway.
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099 From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:32 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
Hello Amel Folks. Chantiers Amel made one ( that I know of, maybe more ) Super Maramu with a truly centerline berth by robbing space from the aft deck locker and relocating the watertight bulkhead separating the aft cabin from the aft deck locker further aft. I have seen this modification performed by Amel owners with not quite as good results. This really makes the aft deck locker much less useful and the aft cabin is, ergonomically, less than satisfactory to most people’s tastes. Having been fortunate to own several SM 53”s and an Amel 54, I can tell you that a practical and fully useful centerline aft cabin berth was a big priority in the evolution of these two models. I found the Amel 54 berth to be more comfortable in every circumstance as the lee boards worked well and you could fit a split mattress with a lee cloth as an option to divide the mattress. While not having your partner climb over you to visit the loo eliminated a ‘ target of opportunity’, it also made for less disturbance of your and your partners sleep… The storage space under the Amel 54 berth was truly cavernous and easily accessed due to the twin gas assist struts.
Have fun with your Amel!
Joel Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell
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Main Sail Furler
Patrick McAneny
For some time in heavy air while furling the main , the motor did not seem strong enough. I now believe it may have been that the furler had a bearing that was near seizing . Last fall the main would not roll out , assuming it was the motor , I used a winch handle and the it would not budge , eventually I broke it free and sailed on. At the end of the season I dismantled the gearbox and found the tapered bearing was completely seized. So if you think your furler is a littlle slow/weak , you may want to have a look inside. Duane posted some pics that were helpful . It took me longer to find the seals than the bearings, so I thought I would post the bearing and seal info and sources. Bearings: Source , Motion Industries - Tapered bearing item # 32009xm-90kmi , Bore 45mm, OD. 75mm, Width 20mm , Manufacturer Timken Ball Bearing , item # 9105k Bore 25mm, OD. 47mm, Width 12mm Manufacturer Fafnir Oil Seals : Source , Metric Seals Inc. 45mmX60mmX7mm 25mmX33mm X6mm You will need one each of bearings and seals Pat SM Shenanigans
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
amelforme
Hello Amel Folks. Chantiers Amel made one ( that I know of, maybe more ) Super Maramu with a truly centerline berth by robbing space from the aft deck locker and relocating the watertight bulkhead separating the aft cabin from the aft deck locker further aft. I have seen this modification performed by Amel owners with not quite as good results. This really makes the aft deck locker much less useful and the aft cabin is, ergonomically, less than satisfactory to most people’s tastes. Having been fortunate to own several SM 53”s and an Amel 54, I can tell you that a practical and fully useful centerline aft cabin berth was a big priority in the evolution of these two models. I found the Amel 54 berth to be more comfortable in every circumstance as the lee boards worked well and you could fit a split mattress with a lee cloth as an option to divide the mattress. While not having your partner climb over you to visit the loo eliminated a ‘ target of opportunity’, it also made for less disturbance of your and your partners sleep… The storage space under the Amel 54 berth was truly cavernous and easily accessed due to the twin gas assist struts.
Have fun with your Amel!
Joel Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Peter, Be careful in comparison of Amels that aren't exactly as your 54. And, it may be best to check with Amel. It would be much more pleasant to sail back to the tropics😀😀😀. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mar 2, 2018 01:32, "Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hydra 2000 internal batteries
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Duane, Did you receive my reply to your direct-to- me email? Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mar 2, 2018 00:56, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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