Date   

Re: Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Mark,

Having lived on Grand Bahama for 14 years, I should highly recommend that you return to Fort Lauderdale for any work — or bring a sailmaker from FortLauderdale to wherever you are. Here, you have no recourse if that job is not done right. I doubt that Nassau or the Abacos could offer any worthwhile sailmaker service.

Fair winds!
Stephanie DiBelardino


Re: Toe rail / Genoa Track Repair

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Woody,

The swelling and cracking in your picture sure looks like a classic case moisture having gotten to the steel backing into which the bolts are fastened. The backing, which Amel buried in the fiberglass layup during construction, then rusts and when it gets really bad the rusting metal starts to expand and bursts the fiberglass structure, along with the gelcoat. 

 

No amount of cosmetic repair will fix this - one needs to cut the fiberglass open, remove and replace the steel and reconstruct the toe rail. You will develop excellent fiberglassing skills by the time you are done and drilling out the nylon screws will be a minor step. 

 

I would recommend not embedding the new backing in the rebuilt fiberglass, but putting it on the underside, exposed to air, and using stainless steel (lest you have a repeat performance at some future date).  

 

This is a common problem that has been discussed often on this forum, with trouble areas being the engine room and other hatch cover supports and hinges, stanchion bases and so on.

 

Optionally, just live with it for a few seasons. It will slowly get worse but won't present a structural problem nor make the eventual repair work much more difficult. Use some hydrochloric acid to wipe off the rust stains now and then, put in some cosmetic fill that will last a while and when the toe rail actually cracks open, you can tackle the repair. 

 

Cheers,

Craig Briggs, SN(G&T) 68, Sangaris



---In amelyachtowners@..., <alanwood123@...> wrote :

Hi all..


The family and I (3 kids) are now six months into owning and living aboard our 1997 SM#189 in Lefkas, Greece and getting our teeth into lots of maintenance! First of all I'd like to thank all those who have contributed to the forums both here and on Facebook.. it's been very informative and immeasurably helpful and I fully intend to contribute my own insights/photos/videos.. when I get a moment!


So first off.. after copious amounts of rain over the last few months I noticed this swelling and cracking of the gelcoat and what looks like rust marks on the toe rail under the genoa track. The underside of this is at the back of the galley cupboard (left of the microwave).  


A couple of opinions/insights please, before I go at it like a bull in a china shop:

  • What's the best way to remove the lining from the back of the cupboard to inspect the underside of the toe rail - just peel it all out or cut the area I need to inspect ..?
  • What is the best way to remove the nylon screws from the track without stripping them - tried screwdriver and they're stuck fast ..?

Thanks in advance..


Woody

https://www.youtube.com/c/mothershipadrift

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Craig Briggs
 

Mark,

As Pat says, you'll need an extension on the halyard. I've seen some Amels that have full length halyards on the main and mizzen and some that do not, as is the case with mine. I think the original rigging all had short halyards and the boats were supplied with an extension line for the rare occasions when you would actually lower the main or mizzen, rather than dealing with a big wad of halyard always flopping around. 

You likely have a rope clutch/lock on the mizzen just below the halyard exit slot. That let's you remove the extension line after tensioning the halyard. The long halyards were likely added by "professional" riggers who didn't know Amel's way.

Using the extension line is a bit fussy as the joint has to travel through the mast exit slot (and rope clutch on the mizzen). I usually do a butt-to-butt joint with waxed whipping line starting with sewing the lines together longitudinally (4 or 5 passes), then a few passes around. Takes about 5 minutes but it is very strong and runs freely - better than fussing with knots that easily jamb inside the mast. 

Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailw32@...> wrote :

Mark, Are you saying that neither sail can be hoisted to the point where the luffs are tight ? Regardless of not reaching the "top of the mast" , if the luff is tight , its as far as it goes. Its hard to understand the mizzen halyard being too short , how was it hoisted . It could be that the previous owner used a short halyard and then installed an extension when lowering it , same procedure as used on the main halyard. 
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2018 9:01 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

 
Hello all,

It appears as though our main and mizzen sails were either cut or rigged incorrectly (won't raise to the top of the mast).  I made an attempt to fix this myself, finding out along the way (yes, the hard way) that the mizzen halyard is about 15 feet too short to allow the sail to be dropped.  Now I think (and my wife knows) it's time to get some expert advice.  Do any members of the group know or have used a sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Thanks,

Mark
Lulu, SM #391
Great Harbor, Berry Islands


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Patrick McAneny
 

Mark, Are you saying that neither sail can be hoisted to the point where the luffs are tight ? Regardless of not reaching the "top of the mast" , if the luff is tight , its as far as it goes. Its hard to understand the mizzen halyard being too short , how was it hoisted . It could be that the previous owner used a short halyard and then installed an extension when lowering it , same procedure as used on the main halyard. 
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2018 9:01 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

 
Hello all,

It appears as though our main and mizzen sails were either cut or rigged incorrectly (won't raise to the top of the mast).  I made an attempt to fix this myself, finding out along the way (yes, the hard way) that the mizzen halyard is about 15 feet too short to allow the sail to be dropped.  Now I think (and my wife knows) it's time to get some expert advice.  Do any members of the group know or have used a sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Thanks,

Mark
Lulu, SM #391
Great Harbor, Berry Islands


Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Mark Isaac
 

Hello all,


It appears as though our main and mizzen sails were either cut or rigged incorrectly (won't raise to the top of the mast).  I made an attempt to fix this myself, finding out along the way (yes, the hard way) that the mizzen halyard is about 15 feet too short to allow the sail to be dropped.  Now I think (and my wife knows) it's time to get some expert advice.  Do any members of the group know or have used a sailmaker in The Bahamas?


Thanks,


Mark

Lulu, SM #391

Great Harbor, Berry Islands


Toe rail / Genoa Track Repair

alanwood123@...
 

Hi all..


The family and I (3 kids) are now six months into owning and living aboard our 1997 SM#189 in Lefkas, Greece and getting our teeth into lots of maintenance! First of all I'd like to thank all those who have contributed to the forums both here and on Facebook.. it's been very informative and immeasurably helpful and I fully intend to contribute my own insights/photos/videos.. when I get a moment!


So first off.. after copious amounts of rain over the last few months I noticed this swelling and cracking of the gelcoat and what looks like rust marks on the toe rail under the genoa track. The underside of this is at the back of the galley cupboard (left of the microwave).  


A couple of opinions/insights please, before I go at it like a bull in a china shop:

  • What's the best way to remove the lining from the back of the cupboard to inspect the underside of the toe rail - just peel it all out or cut the area I need to inspect ..?
  • What is the best way to remove the nylon screws from the track without stripping them - tried screwdriver and they're stuck fast ..?

Thanks in advance..


Woody

https://www.youtube.com/c/mothershipadrift

 


Original Super Maramu fabric

Stacy Kimmey
 

Hi everyone,
My husband and I replaced all the fabric, including the curtains, on our SM 1991. I kept all of it with the anticipation of another Amel owner needing/wanting it. However, we plan to move soon & need the bags gone. 
If you are interested, but please email me: run_h2o@... 
Thank you,
Stacy Kimmey
S/V Flying Free


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion

Jose Venegas
 

Colin, that sounds like a great idea.  Can you take a pix or two of your bed extension?

Jose
Ipanema SM 278
Currently covered with snow in Boston,
Constitution Marina


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Jean,
I have not met him, but according to what Jean said this is likely the same person!
Thanks for the info!
Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 3/9/18, 'Jean Boucharlat' jean.boucharlat@orange.fr [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 9, 2018, 2:35 AM


 









You are most likely referring to Luc
Brumauld des Houlières who retired from the yard in 2011,
bought a second hand somewhat derelict SM and totally
refurbished her. He is the one who sold me my SM (232). Even
though he was a very good salesman, originally, by trade, he
was a mechanical assembler and his two hobbies were building
timepieces and collecting Porsche. I should not speak of him
in the past as he is still very much alive. If anyone comes
across him please give him my regards.  Jean BoucharlatFormerly SM 232  From:
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: jeudi 8 mars 2018 23:54
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery
Boat    I just heard back from Jean
who’s own SM2K Too Much and met the owner of that “Super
Maramu 2000 S”.
So the owner’s name is
Luc and he apparently work 20 years for Amel..
Somehow his SM2K went back to Amel and had a
ceiling of the style of the 54…
I think
the owner took on himself to add the S, definitely not an
Amel name !

Sincerely,
Alexandre
NIKIMAT - Super Maramu 2000 U
!!!

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/7/18, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel
Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 1:50 PM


 









Hello,
no I
cannot tell anything about that. I've never
seen a SUPER
MARAMU 2000 S ...Any
picture of this SM ?
Olivier


On Wednesday,
March
7, 2018 4:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster
von Baar
uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



 









I met a guy that met this
owner.

If I remember
correctly the (original) owner worked for Amel
and in his boat had the same ceiling and other
things as the
54, etc.



May be
Olivier can enlight us!



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/7/18, thomas.
kleman
<no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, March 7,
2018, 8:52 AM





 



















Last month my
wife and I were anchored

off Cabrit in Iles Des Saintes. As often
happens, an
Amel

leaving the area altered course and came by to
chat. It
was

French flagged boat with a nice gentleman who
inquired

whether we were
heading north or south. He circled us
once

and left.
As he was leaving I noticed that his rub rail
was

sporting
"Super Maramu 2000

S"............."S" ???? I had
never seen
an

"S" designation on an SM2K. It
looked

legitimate.......not
like those pranksters who paint 300
hp

on their 3 hp Honda outboard.
Does anyone know what this
was

?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

Jean Boucharlat
 

You are most likely referring to Luc Brumauld des Houlières who retired from the yard in 2011, bought a second hand somewhat derelict SM and totally refurbished her. He is the one who sold me my SM (232). Even though he was a very good salesman, originally, by trade, he was a mechanical assembler and his two hobbies were building timepieces and collecting Porsche. I should not speak of him in the past as he is still very much alive. If anyone comes across him please give him my regards.

 

Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: jeudi 8 mars 2018 23:54
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

 

 

I just heard back from Jean who’s own SM2K Too Much and met the owner of that “Super Maramu 2000 S”.
So the owner’s name is Luc and he apparently work 20 years for Amel..
Somehow his SM2K went back to Amel and had a ceiling of the style of the 54…
I think the owner took on himself to add the S, definitely not an Amel name !

Sincerely, Alexandre
NIKIMAT - Super Maramu 2000 U !!!

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/7/18, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 1:50 PM


 









Hello,
no I
cannot tell anything about that. I've never seen a SUPER
MARAMU 2000 S ...Any
picture of this SM ?
Olivier


On Wednesday, March
7, 2018 4:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



 









I met a guy that met this owner.

If I remember correctly the (original) owner worked for Amel
and in his boat had the same ceiling and other things as the
54, etc.



May be Olivier can enlight us!



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/7/18, thomas. kleman
<no_reply@...> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 8:52 AM





 



















Last month my wife and I were anchored

off Cabrit in Iles Des Saintes. As often happens, an
Amel

leaving the area altered course and came by to chat. It
was

French flagged boat with a nice gentleman who inquired

whether we were heading north or south. He circled us
once

and left. As he was leaving I noticed that his rub rail
was

sporting "Super Maramu 2000

S"............"S" ???? I had never seen
an

"S" designation on an SM2K. It looked

legitimate.......not like those pranksters who paint 300
hp

on their 3 hp Honda outboard. Does anyone know what this
was

?







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Yes, but Luc is not original owner. He told me that he is a second owner of this boat. 
I like that there is no carpeting in the boat. 

Vladimir
202 258 1916

On Mar 8, 2018 1:54 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I just heard back from Jean who’s own SM2K Too Much and met the owner of that “Super Maramu 2000 S”.
So the owner’s name is Luc and he apparently work 20 years for Amel..
Somehow his SM2K went back to Amel and had a ceiling of the style of the 54…
I think the owner took on himself to add the S, definitely not an Amel name !

Sincerely, Alexandre
NIKIMAT - Super Maramu 2000 U !!!



--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/7/18, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 1:50 PM


 









Hello,
no I
cannot tell anything about that. I've never seen a SUPER
MARAMU 2000 S ...Any
picture of this SM ?
Olivier


On Wednesday, March
7, 2018 4:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 









I met a guy that met this owner.

If I remember correctly the (original) owner worked for Amel
and in his boat had the same ceiling and other things as the
54, etc.



May be Olivier can enlight us!



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/7/18, thomas. kleman
<no_reply@...> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 8:52 AM





 



















Last month my wife and I were anchored

off Cabrit in Iles Des Saintes. As often happens, an
Amel

leaving the area altered course and came by to chat. It
was

French flagged boat with a nice gentleman who inquired

whether we were heading north or south. He circled us
once

and left. As he was leaving I noticed that his rub rail
was

sporting "Super Maramu 2000

S"............"S" ???? I had never seen
an

"S" designation on an SM2K. It looked

legitimate.......not like those pranksters who paint 300
hp

on their 3 hp Honda outboard. Does anyone know what this
was

?










On Mar 8, 2018 1:54 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I just heard back from Jean who’s own SM2K Too Much and met the owner of that “Super Maramu 2000 S”.
So the owner’s name is Luc and he apparently work 20 years for Amel..
Somehow his SM2K went back to Amel and had a ceiling of the style of the 54…
I think the owner took on himself to add the S, definitely not an Amel name !

Sincerely, Alexandre
NIKIMAT - Super Maramu 2000 U !!!



--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/7/18, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 1:50 PM


 









Hello,
no I
cannot tell anything about that. I've never seen a SUPER
MARAMU 2000 S ...Any
picture of this SM ?
Olivier


On Wednesday, March
7, 2018 4:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 









I met a guy that met this owner.

If I remember correctly the (original) owner worked for Amel
and in his boat had the same ceiling and other things as the
54, etc.



May be Olivier can enlight us!



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/7/18, thomas. kleman
<no_reply@...> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 8:52 AM





 



















Last month my wife and I were anchored

off Cabrit in Iles Des Saintes. As often happens, an
Amel

leaving the area altered course and came by to chat. It
was

French flagged boat with a nice gentleman who inquired

whether we were heading north or south. He circled us
once

and left. As he was leaving I noticed that his rub rail
was

sporting "Super Maramu 2000

S"............"S" ???? I had never seen
an

"S" designation on an SM2K. It looked

legitimate.......not like those pranksters who paint 300
hp

on their 3 hp Honda outboard. Does anyone know what this
was

?









Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alwgrip

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul, I just responded to your email to me , but in that I did not comment on Alwgrip or my opinion of it, so... One downside is that after we painted our boat , it looked like it just came out of the factory , maybe even more shine , and then just like with a new car , you worry about scratches . It makes it very easy to clean , the paint does not hold the dirt and stains like gel coat. After ten years the white is losing some shine and the rep told me that now it would be OK to wax the hull , they recommend that you do not wax Alwgrip , at least for many years and there is really no need to. Georgetown has painted many large boats over the years , so they do have the experience and Nick would probably be doing the job.
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 5:58 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alwgrip

 
We have got an offer to put Alwgrip on the Hull, boot strip and rub rail as she already in a shed undergoing some repair . the offer looks attractive   Is there anyone out there who have any good or bad experience with Alwgrip on the hull etc?
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Re: Alwgrip

Duane Siegfri
 

Paul,

This is just my two cents from observation and owning a sailboat for 20 years.

Paint looks great.  If your gelcoat has had it and will no longer polish to your satisfaction, paint is the only economical recourse.

The problem with paint is that it is much thinner and more easily injured than gelcoat.  You will need to be very careful with fenders and docking in general.  I personally would not buy a fiberglass sailboat that had been painted.  The life of a paint job is a question you might ponder.  I've heard ten years, but it may be less depending on the quality of preparation.

Still, many custom boats, and steel boats are painted and they do well.  Just be careful with abrasion.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I just heard back from Jean who’s own SM2K Too Much and met the owner of that “Super Maramu 2000 S”.
So the owner’s name is Luc and he apparently work 20 years for Amel.
Somehow his SM2K went back to Amel and had a ceiling of the style of the 54…
I think the owner took on himself to add the S, definitely not an Amel name !

Sincerely, Alexandre
NIKIMAT - Super Maramu 2000 U !!!



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/7/18, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 1:50 PM


 









Hello,
no I
cannot tell anything about that. I've never seen a SUPER
MARAMU 2000 S ...Any
picture of this SM ?
Olivier


On Wednesday, March
7, 2018 4:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 









I met a guy that met this owner.

If I remember correctly the (original) owner worked for Amel
and in his boat had the same ceiling and other things as the
54, etc.



May be Olivier can enlight us!



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/7/18, thomas. kleman
<no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 8:52 AM





 



















Last month my wife and I were anchored

off Cabrit in Iles Des Saintes. As often happens, an
Amel

leaving the area altered course and came by to chat. It
was

French flagged boat with a nice gentleman who inquired

whether we were heading north or south. He circled us
once

and left. As he was leaving I noticed that his rub rail
was

sporting "Super Maramu 2000

S"............"S" ???? I had never seen
an

"S" designation on an SM2K. It looked

legitimate.......not like those pranksters who paint 300
hp

on their 3 hp Honda outboard. Does anyone know what this
was

?


Alwgrip

Paul Osterberg
 

We have got an offer to put Alwgrip on the Hull, boot strip and rub rail as she already in a shed undergoing some repair . the offer looks attractive   Is there anyone out there who have any good or bad experience with Alwgrip on the hull etc?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259



Re: new Genoa

Craig Briggs
 

Ian, et al,
We replaced with a 150%, not a 140% - straight cut Dacron by UK sails.  A fat furling pad in the luff helps a bit with shape when it's furled. 
Given that "percent" (150, 140, 135 etc.) is the perpendicular distance from the sail's luff to its clew (LP) as a percent of the "J" measurement from the head-stay attachment point at the deck to the front of the mast, one wants to consider how the sail will set when poled out. 150% is the design length of our downwind poles. Thus a poled out 150% jib will sheet in snug to the pole end and be stabilized there. A smaller sail will obviously not sheet fully in to the pole and the rig is not designed to let the pole go forward, which would put an out of line force on the mast. 
The sail maker will, therefore, need to consider that the smaller sail will be tacked to a point intended for a 150% sail and consider pole end height and outboard distance to get a proper lead to the smaller sail and, even then, there will be a length of sheet between the pole end and the clew and a peculiar and unstabilized lead to the sail. Methinks the Captain designed for a 150 genoa (even upwind). Notwithstanding, it's probably a minor sub-optimization in our cruising world.
And, Ian, please ... I'm still trying to embrace "Santorin GT - Sangaris"
Cheers, Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <parkianj@...> wrote :

We replaced in Trinidad with a triradial. We were persuaded to drop to 140% which we did.
The foot is higher so clear visibility under the leeward side compared with old sail.
Not much downwind in Caribbean so size us better as is shape when reefed. You could keep your old 150% for long downwind as the shape doesn’t matter then. We didn’t because we didn’t have storage space.
So far no regrets.
I think Craig on SN Sangaris did the same.
Will be interested in other comments.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN. Guadaloupe



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: new Genoa

Ian Park
 

Alex
It was from Ullman Sails in Chaguaramas. I think it’s Dacron, but the invoice is on the boat and I don’t get back there until next week.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I have seen this boat in Martinique. The boat was on the dock next to my boat. I was inside. According to the owner "S" stands for special. Boat has many good features of new 54' boat. It has much more modern look. As I know, the upgrads are more for interior.

Vladimir
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"


On Mar 7, 2018 16:55, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Olivier,

Well if you don't know about it, then may be the owner tried to be fancy...
I will ask Jean who owns "Too Much" the story he heard when he met the owner.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/7/18, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 1:50 PM


 









Hello,
no I
cannot tell anything about that. I've never seen a SUPER
MARAMU 2000 S ...Any
picture of this SM ?
Olivier


On Wednesday, March
7, 2018 4:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 









I met a guy that met this owner.

If I remember correctly the (original) owner worked for Amel
and in his boat had the same ceiling and other things as the
54, etc.



May be Olivier can enlight us!



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Wed, 3/7/18, thomas. kleman
<no_reply@...> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 8:52 AM





 



















Last month my wife and I were anchored

off Cabrit in Iles Des Saintes. As often happens, an
Amel

leaving the area altered course and came by to chat. It
was

French flagged boat with a nice gentleman who inquired

whether we were heading north or south. He circled us
once

and left. As he was leaving I noticed that his rub rail
was

sporting "Super Maramu 2000

S"............"S" ???? I had never seen
an

"S" designation on an SM2K. It looked

legitimate.......not like those pranksters who paint 300
hp

on their 3 hp Honda outboard. Does anyone know what this
was

?










Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Olivier,

Well if you don't know about it, then may be the owner tried to be fancy...
I will ask Jean who owns "Too Much" the story he heard when he met the owner.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Wed, 3/7/18, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 1:50 PM


 









Hello,
no I
cannot tell anything about that. I've never seen a SUPER
MARAMU 2000 S ...Any
picture of this SM ?
Olivier


On Wednesday, March
7, 2018 4:14 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@rocketmail.com [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 









I met a guy that met this owner.

If I remember correctly the (original) owner worked for Amel
and in his boat had the same ceiling and other things as the
54, etc.



May be Olivier can enlight us!



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/7/18, thomas. kleman
<no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery Boat

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 8:52 AM





 



















Last month my wife and I were anchored

off Cabrit in Iles Des Saintes. As often happens, an
Amel

leaving the area altered course and came by to chat. It
was

French flagged boat with a nice gentleman who inquired

whether we were heading north or south. He circled us
once

and left. As he was leaving I noticed that his rub rail
was

sporting "Super Maramu 2000

S"............"S" ???? I had never seen
an

"S" designation on an SM2K. It looked

legitimate.......not like those pranksters who paint 300
hp

on their 3 hp Honda outboard. Does anyone know what this
was

?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: new Genoa

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 



On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 4:05:12 PM GMT-4, Alex Ramseyer wrote:


Hi Ian,
who did you buy that from?
Is it Dacron or Hydranet?
Can you tell me your price>?
Thanks, Alex


On Tuesday, March 6, 2018, 5:46:05 PM GMT-4, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

We replaced in Trinidad with a triradial. We were persuaded to drop to 140% which we did.
The foot is higher so clear visibility under the leeward side compared with old sail.
Not much downwind in Caribbean so size us better as is shape when reefed. You could keep your old 150% for long downwind as the shape doesn’t matter then. We didn’t because we didn’t have storage space..
So far no regrets.
I think Craig on SN Sangaris did the same.
Will be interested in other comments.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN. Guadaloupe