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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator pressure erratic

ya_fohi
 

This time with image attached.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator pressure erratic

ya_fohi
 

Hi and thabnks to those who replied.

I have since dioscovered that water is coming out of the pump from an aperture opposite the high pressure outlet. It looks like there is a thread in this and I assume that some bolt has come out although I can't find it. See the image below. Any ideas?



Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Yes I do Vladimir,
I also have 1 electric motor and the gear that furl the Genoa.

Sincerely Alexandre



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On Sun, 3/11/18, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2018, 2:04 PM


 









Alexandre, 
Do you have a gearbox for main sail
furling for sale?

Vladimir
SM 345
"Life is Goog"
On Mar 10, 2018 12:26,
"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Hello Bill,



For information, if you can not have the issue solved, I
have an complete Leewmar 58 electric winch for sale.



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/10/18, pacificcool@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side
Genoa Gearbox

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018, 1:45 PM





 



















For the past year and a half, Pacific

Cool (SM 141 built in 1995) has had a port side genoa
winch

that works electrically, but is drawing 160 amps versus
30

amp for the starboard winch. Technicians in Cape Town
and

Trinidad tried to remove the gear box with a hydraulic

puller but it would not budge.  Recently, I removed the

motor which drives the gearbox and it seems to be in
good

condition, so I assume its the gearbox which has a

bad bearing or is

really gunked up.  There appear to be four nuts

holding the gearbox to the underside of the winch and a
gear

inserts up into the winch which prevents complete

disassembly of the winch itself.  Two days ago the
winch

stopped working electrically, but I can hear the motor

turning with no movement of the winch.  It still works

manually.  I checked with AMEL in Martinique last year
and

they had no clue what to do.  

At this point it seems the best

thing to do is sell the boat.  But hopefully someone has
a

good idea on what to do.  Any ideas welcome.  I am

currently in Guadeloupe.  

Best

Regards,Bill

ShaproskiS/V Pacific

Cool


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Alexandre, 

Do you have a gearbox for main sail furling for sale?

Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Goog"

On Mar 10, 2018 12:26, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

For information, if you can not have the issue solved, I have an complete Leewmar 58 electric winch for sale.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 3/10/18, pacificcool@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018, 1:45 PM




 









For the past year and a half, Pacific
Cool (SM 141 built in 1995) has had a port side genoa winch
that works electrically, but is drawing 160 amps versus 30
amp for the starboard winch. Technicians in Cape Town and
Trinidad tried to remove the gear box with a hydraulic
puller but it would not budge.  Recently, I removed the
motor which drives the gearbox and it seems to be in good
condition, so I assume its the gearbox which has a
bad bearing or is
really gunked up.  There appear to be four nuts
holding the gearbox to the underside of the winch and a gear
inserts up into the winch which prevents complete
disassembly of the winch itself.  Two days ago the winch
stopped working electrically, but I can hear the motor
turning with no movement of the winch.  It still works
manually.  I checked with AMEL in Martinique last year and
they had no clue what to do.  
At this point it seems the best
thing to do is sell the boat.  But hopefully someone has a
good idea on what to do.  Any ideas welcome.  I am
currently in Guadeloupe.  
Best
Regards,Bill
ShaproskiS/V Pacific
Cool 




Re: Toe rail / Genoa Track Repair

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Woody:  Sorry to see this sort of damage.  I concur with the other post as to the failure mode and repair.  I am not sure what “nylon” screws you are referring to.  The screws that attach the rail to the backing plates are stainless steel (in your case slot head screws, on my SN 335 boat they are SS hex head screws).  I note the missing plastic plugs that help keep water out of these recesses. I find this on many Amel’s that I see.  With them missing seawater pools in those recesses and can lead to the damage you are seeing.    The plugs are available from Amel for cheap, $US  0.20 each.  I order 100 at a time as they fail regularly.  Each recess is a different depth and so the plug needs to be cut with a knife to that precise depth.  Clean each recess with brush & water, use a pick to remove old plastic remnants & collars, Dry everything up, treat with corrosion X or better yet Boeshield (it leaves a waxy residue to help seal).  Use the probe end of a caliper to measure the depth of the recess, lock the caliper & use the sharp point of the caliper to scribe a line in the plastic collar at that exact depth.  Carefully cut off the excess collar.  Insert the plug, press into place.  Avoid hammering into place as that only stress cracks the plastic and leads to premature failure.  A small bit of  Boeshield around the edges will seal it.  With any luck they will last about 5 years in the Caribbean sun.  On an additional note I treat every screw head on both travelers and the main & mizzen outhaul tracks with corrosion X every 3 months or so.  The SS screws against aluminum rails are a set up for dissimilar metal corrosion. 

Gary Silver, original and continuous owner of s/v Liahona, purchased July 1 2001
Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335
PS just did 6 plugs yesterday while hauled out for hurricane repairs here in Fajardo PR


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator pressure erratic

Mark Erdos
 

Paul, the belt tension should be that you can move it about 1cm (or less) with a firm push.

 

I think the manual is referring to a belt slipping casing inconsistent pressure. This would be a really loose belt and you would be able to manually eye the slippage.

 

Is it possible you have a leak in the high pressure side?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 11:18 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator pressure erratic

 

 

Hi,

I have a Dessaltor 100 duo and I'm seeing very erratic pressure to the point where its unusable. In the past I have remedied this by replacing the pre-filter, but this time it has not solved the problem. One thing in the troubleshooting section in the manual is that may be related is belt tension. Would anyone know how to check for the correct belt tension as the manual does not seem to say anthing about this. Failing this, any other ideas would be very welcome.

Thanks,

Paul

Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator pressure erratic

karkauai
 

Hi Paul.  I had a similar problem a few years ago.  I kept seeing air in the glass vial on the control panel that indicates fresh water flow.  I found a tiny leak where the AC pump intake attaches to the manifold.  A hose clamp had failed.  It was a stainless band, but the worm gear was not stainless.  New band clamp tightened down and voila...no more air and steady pump pressure.

I did have to rebuild the pump this year.  The motor and pump were turning but no pressure.  I never figured out what exactly failed, but the rebuild solved the problem.  I did have to prime the rebuilt pump the first time with the fresh water pump/rinse function.  It's been working well since.  The parts for the rebuild were purchased from Great Water in Maine. www.great-water.com  Mark Freuhoff is very helpful...and very expensive.  Info"at"great-water"dot"com

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243



Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
Panama cell: +507-61171896
USA cell: 828-234-6819


Dessalator pressure erratic

ya_fohi
 

Hi,

I have a Dessaltor 100 duo and I'm seeing very erratic pressure to the point where its unusable. In the past I have remedied this by replacing the pre-filter, but this time it has not solved the problem. One thing in the troubleshooting section in the manual is that may be related is belt tension. Would anyone know how to check for the correct belt tension as the manual does not seem to say anthing about this. Failing this, any other ideas would be very welcome.

Thanks,

Paul

Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Black Smoke From Volvo Penta Engine Exhaust

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill, I believe black smoke indicates lack of air for combustion . I had that happen for the first time this fall , I also had not been able to get above 1800 rpm. I discovered that I had sucked up a paper towel into the turbo , thus the low rpms and the lack of air. It was so totally clogged I don't know how it ran at all. I discovered a fair amount of carbon in the elbow , probably from lack of air , and that I tend to run at a lower rpm than is healthy . In the future I plan to run the engine a Volvo TMD 22a much harder to keep the carbon from building up. I had my turbo rebuilt for $385. ,half of what I paid before when I had a mechanic send it out for a rebuild a few years ago.
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: pacificcool@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2018 2:47 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Black Smoke From Volvo Penta Engine Exhaust

 
I forgot to mention that Pacific Cool is SM 141 built in 1995 and has 5,500 hours on the engine.  

Regards,
Bill Shaproski
S/V Pacific Cool


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Barry,

I was just going to ask you if you received the parts!
Excellent glad that it fit perfectly on the boat!

Here is the link, http://www.nikimat.com/parts_for_sale/
but my list is not up to date…
Lots of the Onan MDKAL parts are gone.

Not listed:
2 used” the Leroy Sommer transmission as well as 1 electric motor.
1 fan 24 Volt engine room
Like new Mizzen sail, used Main and Genoa.
New strainer, o ring and cover for strainer!
used (Amel) cover for strainer.
I really need to go over the list.
Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sun, 3/11/18, Barry Connor connor_barry@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2018, 4:27 AM


 









Hi Alexandre,Just to let you know I got
the Spurs kit/gear and now back on our boat. It is perfect
just what I wanted and like new as you described. Thank’s
again, could you send me the link to your list of gear that
you still have for sale.Best
Regards,
Barry and
Penny Connor“Lady Penelope II”Amel
54.  # 17Marina di Ragusa,  Sicily

Sent from my
iPhone
On Mar 11, 2018, at 03:14,
Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Alexandre,And Bill my
apologies. I lost the drum off the starboard
mast Lewmar46 chrome on brass 2 speed winch on passage and
am looking for a replacement. 
If anyone has either a replacement drum or
entire winch I’d be interested. 
Many thanks,
Porter
McRobertsIbisAmel 54-152
Excuse the errors.
 Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.com
On Mar 10, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Alexandre Uster
von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Hello Bill,



For information, if you can not have the issue solved, I
have an complete Leewmar 58 electric winch for sale.



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/10/18, pacificcool@yahoo...com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side
Genoa Gearbox

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018, 1:45 PM





 



















For the past year and a half, Pacific

Cool (SM 141 built in 1995) has had a port side genoa
winch

that works electrically, but is drawing 160 amps versus
30

amp for the starboard winch. Technicians in Cape Town
and

Trinidad tried to remove the gear box with a hydraulic

puller but it would not budge.  Recently, I removed the

motor which drives the gearbox and it seems to be in
good

condition, so I assume its the gearbox which has a

bad bearing or is

really gunked up.  There appear to be four nuts

holding the gearbox to the underside of the winch and a
gear

inserts up into the winch which prevents complete

disassembly of the winch itself.  Two days ago the
winch

stopped working electrically, but I can hear the motor

turning with no movement of the winch.  It still works

manually.  I checked with AMEL in Martinique last year
and

they had no clue what to do.  

At this point it seems the best

thing to do is sell the boat.  But hopefully someone has
a

good idea on what to do.  Any ideas welcome.  I am

currently in Guadeloupe.  

Best

Regards,Bill

ShaproskiS/V Pacific

Cool


Re: Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

steve_bode@...
 

Hi, Bill.

I have an '94 purchased recently and servicing all the winches was one of my first tasks. The Lewmar electric 58 mains were particularly troublesome and although it may or may not help you, wanted to share my experience in hopes it may give you a little more insight. I discovered that these winches on my boat can not be fully serviced without removing them from the deck. In order to remove them, I had to remove the drive motor from below decks. This was a fairly straightforward process of removing the four bolts that hold the drive motor to the flange that is in turn bolted to the collar that is part of the center stem of the winch. For your information, when I removed the four bolts that connect the motor to the flange, I was able to jiggle the motor and it slid right off the shaft that drives the gears in the stem of the winch. That shaft has a slot and a key arrangement. I uploaded a bunch of pictures of process to this site via the post "servicing lewmar 58 winches". If your motor does not drop off the drive shaft, then it is seized to that shaft. Did your pros try to pry it off the motor assembly from that flange?

Photo album of Winch service:

-Bode
SV Intention
Amel SM117 '94


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

Barry Connor
 

Hi Alexandre,
Just to let you know I got the Spurs kit/gear and now back on our boat. It is perfect just what I wanted and like new as you described. Thank’s again, could you send me the link to your list of gear that you still have for sale.
Best Regards,

Barry and Penny Connor
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54.  # 17
Marina di Ragusa,  Sicily


On Mar 11, 2018, at 03:14, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre,

And Bill my apologies. 
I lost the drum off the starboard mast Lewmar46 chrome on brass 2 speed winch on passage and am looking for a replacement. 

If anyone has either a replacement drum or entire winch I’d be interested. 

Many thanks,

Porter McRoberts
Ibis
Amel 54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Mar 10, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Bill,

For information, if you can not have the issue solved, I have an complete Leewmar 58 electric winch for sale.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 3/10/18, pacificcool@yahoo..com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018, 1:45 PM


 









For the past year and a half, Pacific
Cool (SM 141 built in 1995) has had a port side genoa winch
that works electrically, but is drawing 160 amps versus 30
amp for the starboard winch. Technicians in Cape Town and
Trinidad tried to remove the gear box with a hydraulic
puller but it would not budge.  Recently, I removed the
motor which drives the gearbox and it seems to be in good
condition, so I assume its the gearbox which has a
bad bearing or is
really gunked up.  There appear to be four nuts
holding the gearbox to the underside of the winch and a gear
inserts up into the winch which prevents complete
disassembly of the winch itself.  Two days ago the winch
stopped working electrically, but I can hear the motor
turning with no movement of the winch.  It still works
manually.  I checked with AMEL in Martinique last year and
they had no clue what to do.  
At this point it seems the best
thing to do is sell the boat.  But hopefully someone has a
good idea on what to do.  Any ideas welcome.  I am
currently in Guadeloupe.  
Best
Regards,Bill
ShaproskiS/V Pacific
Cool 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Craig for clarification 
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina in or near istanbul

SAMET GOLGECI
 

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2018-03-11 8:57 GMT+03:00 c.macdonald@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi all,
Looking for a place to birth my boat (Maramu) in or near Istanbul. any suggestion?
Charles
Inuit





Marina in or near istanbul

c.macdonald@...
 

Hi all,
Looking for a place to birth my boat (Maramu) in or near Istanbul. any suggestion?
Charles
Inuit



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Paul,

Yes, you indeed are incorrectly calculating your jib percent size. It is not the foot length / J. In your case the foot length of 8.25m divided by your J of 5m does indeed happen to work out to 165%, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the % size of the jib. You do not have a 165% jib.

The actual calculation for jib percent is LP/J, where LP is the perpendicular distance from the luff to the clew. J is the distance from the headstay-to-deck intersection point back to the front of the mast. The foot length is simply not a measurement used in calculating the genoa %. One can have a 150% genoa (or 135% or whatever) with widely varying foot lengths, depending on how high off the deck the foot is. 

On our Amels, if one takes the position of the end of the rigged downwind pole as a fixed point and then measures the perpendicular to the genoa luff, which is LP, and then divides by J, one gets 150%. 

Cheers, Craig, SN(G&T)#68, Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Sorry Paul, I don't have those specs available right now.  If I find a nice light-air day, I'll measure the 135's foot.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Paul asked:
Kent
Do you know the foot length of your Genoas?
Original Amel foot is 8,25 m giving an area of 67 sqm. With a J of 5,0 meters I get it to 165%, but I might be wrong in how to calculate the %.
with my way to calculate the foot of your Genoas would be 5,5 m and 6,75 m looks  small, am I correct?
Would guess a 50 sqm Genoa would be a good alternative for the Caribbean.

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

Porter McRoberts
 

Alexandre,
And Bill my apologies. 
I lost the drum off the starboard mast Lewmar46 chrome on brass 2 speed winch on passage and am looking for a replacement. 

If anyone has either a replacement drum or entire winch I’d be interested. 

Many thanks,

Porter McRoberts
Ibis
Amel 54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Mar 10, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Bill,

For information, if you can not have the issue solved, I have an complete Leewmar 58 electric winch for sale.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 3/10/18, pacificcool@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018, 1:45 PM


 









For the past year and a half, Pacific
Cool (SM 141 built in 1995) has had a port side genoa winch
that works electrically, but is drawing 160 amps versus 30
amp for the starboard winch. Technicians in Cape Town and
Trinidad tried to remove the gear box with a hydraulic
puller but it would not budge.  Recently, I removed the
motor which drives the gearbox and it seems to be in good
condition, so I assume its the gearbox which has a
bad bearing or is
really gunked up.  There appear to be four nuts
holding the gearbox to the underside of the winch and a gear
inserts up into the winch which prevents complete
disassembly of the winch itself.  Two days ago the winch
stopped working electrically, but I can hear the motor
turning with no movement of the winch.  It still works
manually.  I checked with AMEL in Martinique last year and
they had no clue what to do.  
At this point it seems the best
thing to do is sell the boat.  But hopefully someone has a
good idea on what to do.  Any ideas welcome.  I am
currently in Guadeloupe.  
Best
Regards,Bill
ShaproskiS/V Pacific
Cool 



Re: Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

pacificcool@...
 

Thanks for the interest, but I'd rather stick with the 58.  

Regards,
Bill Shaposki
S/V Pacific Cool


Re: Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

pacificcool@...
 

Hi Alexandre,
Thanks for the reply.  Where is the unit located and how old is it?  How much do you want for it?  THe real problem though is getting the old one off.   But if I had a spare in the wings it might allow more options for removal.

Regards,
Bill Shaproski
S/V Pacific Cool


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Black Smoke From Volvo Penta Engine Exhaust

pacificcool@...
 

Thanks for the info.  Very interesting.  I suspect that you are spot on.  I'll do as you say.  Enjoy Guadeloupe.  If you're in Point-a-Pitre in the next week, look us up.  

Regards,
Bill Shaprosk
S/V Pacific Cool