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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Interphase sonar
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Shenanigans, I think the answer to your question depends where you sail. We have the ordinary Scope and didn't use it in anger in Europe and throughout the Caribbean becuse the quality of charts and electronic charts made it redundant. However when we were in Chile I met a local yottie whose 35ft wooden boat was used as a survey boat for a company looking for new places to put their salmon farms.He was contantly in those parts of the charts marked ''unsurveyed" and he went everywhere on his forward seeking sounder and radar.He swore by it. He then showed me the best setting for the depths and distances ahead that we were interested in and we then spent some time getting used to analysing the little dots that appear on the screen.Lots show up that are not anything solid--fish, violent currents etc but when there is a rock you can see it clearly. I would not rely on it at above 2-3 knots ( he uses it at up to 8 when he has current pushing him). We spent three seasons in the Chilean canales and now use it more than we did before we arrived there.
It also has the added advantage of being a second echosounder should your main one pack up. Our Scope is from 2000. They may have improved them since then. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000009ukm/direct/01/
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FW: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory
eric freedman
Hi Ian,
It is rather simple to change the strap in the water. There is a photo of the strap with measurements in the photo section. I used 1/8 inch thick by 2 inch copper stock. The hole is about one inch. I was fortunate to have a nearby metal shop so they bent the copper for me. I would check the measurements before bending as your bilge might be different. The bilge should be clean and dry. A shop vac comes in handy. You will need a 30 mm socket and about 4 feet of extensions to get to the bolt. Mine was rather loose and came off easily. I taped the extensions and socket together to insure they did not come apart. I used a long pickup tool to remove it from the bilge. I also taped the nut into the socket on installation. What I did differently is I made the bracket about 12 inches longer so it was way out of the bilge. You will to test fit it as if it is too long it rubs against some plastic tubing. Then the wiring is about 10 inches above the highest possible water . The other thing that I did was to re use the end of the strap with all the wires soldered to it. I just cut the strap about 4 inches long and cleaned up the inside so it was nice and shiny. I then wrapped it around the top of the new bonding strap and through bolted the old copper to the new copper. Fair winds Eric sm 376 kimberlite _____ Hi Gary, Our list for Guadeloupe grows, as yesterday we discovered that our copper strap in the engine room bilge has also parted, about 2" from the keel bolt.Like you, we spend 6 months a year ashore ( unconnected to shore power and with batteries switched off) .The first two years we were afloat in a marina in England but for the last 6 we have spent 5 months out of 6 at anchor.Our aircon has had light use. Can anyone speak of reconnecting a new copper strip? Can the keel bolt be loosened and reattached while the boat is still afloat? Cheers, Ian & Judy, *en Azen, SM 302, Trinidad http://clk.atdmt. <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/> com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/
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Re: Interphase sonar
amarsini <alberto.marsini@...>
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sailw32" <sailw32@...> wrote:
or put it on ebay and sell it.If anyone has one installed I would liketo hear their opinion. Shenanigans SM 123sorry but I did not understand whatkind of instrument is that. Thank you. Alberto (Sharki 144 - Super Antokles)
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Re: Interphase sonar
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
I have the older, black and white, TwinScope on my Amle SM Hull # 335.
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I have found it to be a very useful instrument. In fact I can attribute two instances of hard grounding saves to it. It is not an end all and be all type instrument and there is a learning curve to using it but I would do it again (especially if I had the new color unit). Pay particular attention to the details of mounting (allignment, placement out of turbulent water, parallel to the water level etc) as the results are only as good as the quality of the installation. I presume that you have the dual transducer in one housing version. Mine had two separate transducers so I had to drill two holes. The horizontal scan mode is less useful than the vertical scan mode in my opinion. You will be impressed with how thick the hull is when you drill that hole. Gary Silver s/v Liahona
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Ian:
The fact that the red light doesn't come on at all still doesn't exclude the possibility of a bad transducer, it only means that the send receive loop is not being completed. It could be a fault with the control box OR a trans- ducer. I still recommend that you have the control box tested by B & G, then if it turns out it is ok it would point to a transducer problem. My experience with all things electronic is that the most common place to find a fault is in the connectors. As there aren't connectors here, just wires under screws, double check to make sure that the wires aren't corroded and the screws are tight. Have you measured, using a multimeter, the voltage at the control box to verify that you have voltage there? The wires are labeled on the placard that is in the bottom of the box. Just test between the ground and voltage wires (I can't remember if this is a 24 volt or 12 volt system but I believe the placard or your on board literature should say what it is). Find out from B & G how to best test the transducers and their cables (e.g. measuring voltage or resistance across the transducer etc), and post their response here for the benefit of the group. Good Luck, Gary --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote: adjust the knob no light came on at all. Turns out that the transducers are fine ( thank goodness!) but there is a fault in the control box. Luckily I am going home to the UK next week so B&G can deal with it there.Cheers, Ian
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Interphase sonar
Patrick McAneny
When I bought my SM it came with a brand new in the box Interphase
color twinscope sonar.I've been debating if its worth drilling a hole in my hull and increasing drag and adding to the instrument clutter or put it on ebay and sell it.If anyone has one installed I would like to hear their opinion. Shenanigans SM 123
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Gary, Our list for Guadeloupe grows, as yesterday we discovered that our copper strap in the engine room bilge has also parted, about 2" from the keel bolt.Like you, we spend 6 months a year ashore ( unconnected to shore power and with batteries switched off) .The first two years we were afloat in a marina in England but for the last 6 we have spent 5 months out of 6 at anchor.Our aircon has had light use.
Can anyone speak of reconnecting a new copper strip? Can the keel bolt be loosened and reattached while the boat is still afloat? Cheers, Ian & Judy, *en Azen, SM 302, Trinidad http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/
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1989 Maramu # 256 for sale
ceich16 <ceich16@...>
Hello all members,
My Maramu Fleur de Passion is in the Méditerranée Will be locatedin Corfu Greece this summer.She is of the latest maramu built by Amel. She is in execellent conditions ready for a world circulum navigation(Northen light generator 5kva water maker air conditioning in back cabin etc ...) Inventory on request end for mor information contact Efranchris@aol.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Gary,Your nose for where to look remains as sensitive as ever. When we tried to adjust the knob no light came on at all. Turns out that the transducers are fine ( thank goodness!) but there is a fault in the control box. Luckily I am going home to the UK next week so B&G can deal with it there.Cheers, Ian
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] watermaker fitting
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Eric, sorry to hear about your sail issues. Hope all
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else is safe with the boat. As for the fittings when we changed to manual system in St. Marrtin we simply used a new high pressure hose. They are standard fittings. If you have access to a hydraulic shop you should be able to get fittings that will work. Best wishes Richard on Challenge SM 209 --- eric <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:
On our way home, the hose connected to the
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: sails and ssb
Dave_Benjamin
Eric,
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www.IslandPlanetSails.com I can't say we're unbiased since we own the company but I know our sails hold together and we have clients with over 20K miles that are going strong. D
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From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net> Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: sails and ssb To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 8:43 PM I have had many problems with super sails. last week their "guaranteed 50 knot" sail blew apart and tore in a number of places. this is the third time I have had problems with them and this one sail. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:14 PM To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: sails and ssb to get the low down on battens call super sails in Fl. they will make you a sail at the best prices... Richard On Challenge SM 209 --- blowinahoudy <no_reply@yahoogrou p <mailto:no_reply% 40yahoogroups. com> s.com> wrote: --- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>yahoogroups. com, minaxi53 <no_reply@.. .> wrote: Joe I have asked several sailmakers about a battened main, I seem to get a different answer every time as to whether this is possible on an Amel furling mast. Can you give more details of yours. Bob Minaxi SM6 yahoogroups. com,--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com> blowinahoudy <no_reply@> wrote: I would like to recommend two venders to the group. We had a new jib, battened main, and battened mizzen made by Paul Lockwood of Omar Sailmakers in Beaufort,N.C. Found his prices fair and his workmanship superb. Also he is a great guy to work with,even drove me forty miles to a car rental and wouldn't let me buy him a tank of gas. I'd also like to praise Steve Bowden and Pam (Brown?) of Seatech Systems. We bought An Icom 802,Pactor 3, AIS package, DSC, and wifi from them. I installed them myself and was in a little over my head. Each time I called for advice I got help,either immediately or soon after. Sincerely, Joe Metz, "Brown-Eyed Girl SM#87 Bob, The battens on a furling sail are short multiple battens located on the leach of the sail and they overlap. While not as effective as traditional battens,they do help. You can contact Paul Lockwood at 252-728-5598 with any questions. I'll be out of contact for a couple weeks; we're sailing from Fl. to Maine. Joe ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. <http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ> yahoo.com/;_ ylt=Ahu06i62sR8H DtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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watermaker fitting
eric freedman
On our way home, the hose connected to the watermaker membrane with the red
tape on it blew out of the connector. I was unable to make a proper connection again. How do I properly connect the hose back to the connector fitting? We have the 160 liter per hour 220-volt watermaker. Thank you. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: sails and ssb
eric freedman
I have had many problems with super sails.
last week their "guaranteed 50 knot" sail blew apart and tore in a number of places. this is the third time I have had problems with them and this one sail. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:14 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: sails and ssb to get the low down on battens call super sails in Fl. they will make you a sail at the best prices... Richard On Challenge SM 209 --- blowinahoudy <no_reply@yahoogroup <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> s.com> wrote: --- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>yahoogroups.com, minaxi53 <no_reply@...> wrote:yahoogroups.com,main, I seem to blowinahoudy <no_reply@>__________________________________________________________wrote:group. We had a new Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. <http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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Re: {Disarmed} Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Replaceing the anchor windlass
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
John, we can get at all the nuts in the port side locker. The new windlass is going back as they sent 12 volts rather then 24.. We will use the counter that is on our old windlass. And add a hand held pendent to run it from the bow as well as from the cockpit. Our current plan is got this one replaced and a new one here before we sail for the Med in early June.
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We'll install the new windlass when we get to the Med. regards to all Richard and Joan SM 209 in St Thomas bound for the Med. John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@melita.net.mt> wrote: Hello Richard, If your winch is installed like mine you may wish that you had the old one reconditioned in situ. As you might find on the search box under anchor winch I savaged mine in Croatia and had it repaired locally. At that time I looked in the chain locker and saw that the winch was fixed to the deck with four bolts. The nut on the starboard aft one was totally buried in resin and virtually inaccessible so I felt that it would be better to replace parts than to put a Leprachaun into the chainn locker to chip off the resin. Hopefully yours is not the same. Regards, Anne and John, SM 319
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From: Richard Piller To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Replaceing the windlass Hi, we use the same plastic bag method for keeping the water out at sea. (ocean crossing and going to windward) We are about to replace the windlass as a whole. The bearing have gone and it sounds like the worm gears are gone as well. Has anyone replace the entire windlass with a new Tigeress from Lofrans? Did you have any problems/issues with the chain counter? We found the best deal at Defender in CT. They shipped to ST Thomas for us... We'll post our replacement. Everyone may want to check that there is no play in the windlass shaft with the chain off. Richard and Joan on Challenge in the BVI --- rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@gmail.com> wrote: I know this is an old post, but I use a thin white__________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2months FREE*http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.15/1426 - Release Date: 10/05/2008 11:12
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Checking the turn buckels
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
To all Amel users:::
We just finished a few months in the Carib and saliling several thousand miles on SM 209. When I went long to check the rig I found that the turn buckels have worn from being up against the safety cable.. Please check your boats and be sure you are not cutting into the turn buckles.. Ring the rig...Remember Amels are tight rigs that should not go slack to leeward when going to windward. Richard and Joan on SM 209 Challenge in St Thomas Crown Bay John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@melita.net.mt> wrote: I had a main made for my last ketch by a Kiwi sailmaker called Mike Relling. He used vertical battens about four or five feet long. They were fibre glass rod although they could well have been made out of normal wide batten material. He was fairly conservative in the extra roach that he built in but even so it increased the sail area by seven percent and was much better looking as it had a positive roach and it worked very well without allowing the roach to fall away. I do not know why this is not done as a norm. I suspect that people see that the furled main nearly fills the mast at boom level and cannot workout that a tall triangle leaves heaps of room further up the mast !! Regards, Anne and John, SM319
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor windlass
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
John, thanks for the heads up on windlass. We are still awaiting it's arrival here in St. Thomas. Seems US Customs has it and loves it... Maybe we'll be getting it Tuesday...
We will take your advice and use a different system to lower and raise the hook. I think we may go with a hand held unit that we can store in a water tight box in port forward locker. We'll post the results.. Richard and Joan on SM 209 in St Thomas Crown Bay John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@melita.net.mt> wrote: Hello again Richard, I can understand that it seemed impossible to remove the allen bolts holding the side plate on the main casing. Fortunately my winch problem was in Croatia where they have not yet progressed to the throw away society standards. The engineer spent almost a whole day either working on the winch or going back to his shop to get more gear. He finally managed to get all the bolts out by working on each one carefully with what looked to me like an oxyacetylene blow torch and a very long allen key. After he had finished I took each one out and replaced it using anti seize ointment.This reminds me that I resolved to do the same thing annually. To deal with the new winch I believe that the up and down buttons on the top of the casing are an Amel or Pochon le Cochon abortion and much increase the risk of sea water penetration. Those on my winch were badly fitted for two reasons, the top of the casing is rounded and thus unsuited to fitting the switches without grinding off the rounding and secondly the holes drilled in the casing were too big and thus it was doubly difficult to get a good fixing. As I could not get a replacement of the right type I fitted a foot switch in the deck on the port side so that Anne can use her foot to lift the anchor whilst she is leaning over the pulpit in relative comfort to watch the anchor coming up. If I was fitting a new winch I would use two deck switches instead of recreating the abortion. When the casing is removed counter sensor can be removed by pushing it forward with a small screwdriver through the aft hole and disconnecting the joint in the wiring to get it out.Removing the sensor will expose the heads of the two bolts which hold its mount on the side of the casing so you can get it off. I suppose that the mount can then be used as a guide for drilling holes in the new casing. If I understand the sensor details which Gary has posted in Files the sensor is pretty sensitive and may be up to one or two centimetres away from the knob on the winch drum However I guess you would be happier with about a quarter of an inch or so. Good luck, Anne and John, SM 319
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] What oil is needed for the prop shaft bearing?
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Pat, if you check in the manual you will find that it takes 2 gallons of 10-40w motor oil.
The bow thruster take gear lube. (out board motor lower unit lube is 90 W.) One tube of lube will do the trick. Good luck let us know how you are doing.. Richard Piller and Joan in St Thomas SM 209 sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com> wrote: I just changed my prop shaft bearing for the first time. What type and weight of oil do I need? I have not been able to find any reference to this on this website. Thanks, Pat Shenanigans SM123
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: cutless bearing......size no longer in production????
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Dave, when we did the one on our old Maramu we had a bearing truned and a new shaft made. Your shaft is most likely got some wear on it around the cutless bearing area anyway. It is also a good chance to change the alternator belt and put on a spare.
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Richard Piller M-135 Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> wrote: Today we checked to see if a 1 3/8" bearing would fit over the 35mm shaft. Turns out it does. Morse makes a 1 3/8x 1 7/8x 5 1/2 in bearing. The outside diameter is 47.625mm. Since our opening is about 45mm we will have to shave 1.312 mm or roughly .052" We'll know shortly. Does anyone with an older Maramu know if the 35mm shaft was standard. Our Maramu was repowered by a previous owner so I have no idea if it is the same size.
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bowthruster
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Sorry to have posted two blank messages. Not sure why. Hope this comes through. Just wanted to say thanks to those who had answered my queries. Should be simple to fix. Will report again. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowthruster
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