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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] BOW THRUSTER

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Peter-"Calisto"- hold tight. I will try to get the photos we took on rebuilding the bow thruster in March at Bennett Bros in Wilmington N.C. I have them on a C.D and will ask a friend of mine to help me ppost them. The bolts that hold the housing together that has to be opened are covered with some some type of removable filler with a small chisel. Murray Seidel SM 349

----- Original Message -----
From: pjppappas
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] BOW THRUSTER


Greetings, I am hoping that one of you could send to me instructions on
how to change the bow thurster seals. Thank You. Peter
Pappas "Callisto" SM 369 Vallarta, Mexico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)

Howard Berger
 

Hi, Eric.

She's currently in South Amboy, NJ, at Lockwood Boat Works. We don't expect to have most of the work done until September so we'll probably keep her there for the winter before bringing her back to our marina in NY Harbor. We're planning on a shakedown cruise to Bermuda next June before taking off to go cruising again in 2010.

Thanks for the offer to help. If you looked at the pictures I posted on Facebook, you can see that all the standing rigging (save for the masts) is gone. I was having trouble figuring out where the backstays are run on the main and mizzen but a few Amel group members wrote and explained it. I understand that the mizzen backstays are led to the stern rail. We're having a new rail built now and I might opt to install chainplates on the transom instead. Is the SM rigged the same way, i.e., to the stern rail?

Where are you in LI?

Best regards,
Howard


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kimberlite@optonline.netDate: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:56:33 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)




Howard,Where is the boat located? I am located on long island with my super Maramu.Possibly I can help.Fair winds,EricSm 376 kimberlite_____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard BergerSent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:47 PMTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)Hello, all. My name is Howard Berger. My wife Lynda and I are about halfway through a complete refit of Maramu hull #144 we bought last year. JAZZ is as Katrina survivor that we plan to cruise extensively starting in 2010, leaving from NY and heading out into the Pacific (that's the plan, anyway).My question is regarding the standing rigging. Both masts were there when we bought the boat but the rest of the standing rigging was gone. Could someone please tell me, was the Maramu rigged with a single, double, or split mizzen backstay? We think the main mast had a double backstay with chainplates along the cockpit coaming. Is that correct?For those that are interested, I've set up a Facebook photo album detailing the refit. You can view it by pasting the following link into your browser's address box:http://www.facebook<http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3504&l=995ee&id=1015036831>.com/album.php?aid=3504&l=995ee&id=1015036831 Fair winds,Howard Berger






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)

eric freedman
 

Howard,

Where is the boat located? I am located on long island with my super Maramu.
Possibly I can help.

Fair winds,

Eric

Sm 376 kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard Berger
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)



Hello, all. My name is Howard Berger. My wife Lynda and I are about
halfway through a complete refit of Maramu hull #144 we bought last
year. JAZZ is as Katrina survivor that we plan to cruise extensively
starting in 2010, leaving from NY and heading out into the Pacific
(that's the plan, anyway).

My question is regarding the standing rigging. Both masts were there
when we bought the boat but the rest of the standing rigging was
gone. Could someone please tell me, was the Maramu rigged with a
single, double, or split mizzen backstay? We think the main mast had
a double backstay with chainplates along the cockpit coaming. Is
that correct?

For those that are interested, I've set up a Facebook photo album
detailing the refit. You can view it by pasting the following link
into your browser's address box:

http://www.facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3504&l=995ee&id=1015036831>
.com/album.php?aid=3504&l=995ee&id=1015036831

Fair winds,
Howard Berger


Re: Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)

Howard Berger
 

Thanks Alex. I appreciate the info and the quick response. Our boat
is an '83/'84.

Thanks again, and I'll look forward to the pictures.

Regards,
Howard

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Paquin"
<alex.paquin@...> wrote:

Dear Howard:
The Maramu at least 1981 models have double mizzen backstays
attached
to the rail. I will send pictures of the above mast attachment.
The main mast is only supported by one backstay attached at the
cockpit chainplate. That is 8mm and the mizzen backstays are
specified by Amel as 5mm. That is what we have onboard and rerigged
4
years ago exactly as it was originally.
Regards,

Alex Paquin
s/v SIMPATICO
Maramu 1981 Hull #94






--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Berger"
<svresolute@> wrote:

Hello, all. My name is Howard Berger. My wife Lynda and I are
about
halfway through a complete refit of Maramu hull #144 we bought
last
year. JAZZ is as Katrina survivor that we plan to cruise
extensively
starting in 2010, leaving from NY and heading out into the
Pacific
(that's the plan, anyway).

My question is regarding the standing rigging. Both masts were
there
when we bought the boat but the rest of the standing rigging was
gone. Could someone please tell me, was the Maramu rigged with a
single, double, or split mizzen backstay? We think the main mast
had
a double backstay with chainplates along the cockpit coaming. Is
that correct?

For those that are interested, I've set up a Facebook photo album
detailing the refit. You can view it by pasting the following
link
into your browser's address box:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3504&l=995ee&id=1015036831

Fair winds,
Howard Berger


Re: Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)

Alejandro Paquin
 

Dear Howard:
The Maramu at least 1981 models have double mizzen backstays attached
to the rail. I will send pictures of the above mast attachment.
The main mast is only supported by one backstay attached at the
cockpit chainplate. That is 8mm and the mizzen backstays are
specified by Amel as 5mm. That is what we have onboard and rerigged 4
years ago exactly as it was originally.
Regards,

Alex Paquin
s/v SIMPATICO
Maramu 1981 Hull #94






--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Berger"
<svresolute@...> wrote:

Hello, all. My name is Howard Berger. My wife Lynda and I are
about
halfway through a complete refit of Maramu hull #144 we bought last
year. JAZZ is as Katrina survivor that we plan to cruise
extensively
starting in 2010, leaving from NY and heading out into the Pacific
(that's the plan, anyway).

My question is regarding the standing rigging. Both masts were
there
when we bought the boat but the rest of the standing rigging was
gone. Could someone please tell me, was the Maramu rigged with a
single, double, or split mizzen backstay? We think the main mast
had
a double backstay with chainplates along the cockpit coaming. Is
that correct?

For those that are interested, I've set up a Facebook photo album
detailing the refit. You can view it by pasting the following link
into your browser's address box:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3504&l=995ee&id=1015036831

Fair winds,
Howard Berger


Maramu Mizzen Backstay(s)

Howard Berger
 

Hello, all. My name is Howard Berger. My wife Lynda and I are about
halfway through a complete refit of Maramu hull #144 we bought last
year. JAZZ is as Katrina survivor that we plan to cruise extensively
starting in 2010, leaving from NY and heading out into the Pacific
(that's the plan, anyway).

My question is regarding the standing rigging. Both masts were there
when we bought the boat but the rest of the standing rigging was
gone. Could someone please tell me, was the Maramu rigged with a
single, double, or split mizzen backstay? We think the main mast had
a double backstay with chainplates along the cockpit coaming. Is
that correct?

For those that are interested, I've set up a Facebook photo album
detailing the refit. You can view it by pasting the following link
into your browser's address box:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3504&l=995ee&id=1015036831

Fair winds,
Howard Berger


Re: BOW THRUSTER

Naegels Patrick <naegels@...>
 

Hi everybody,

you can see on forum-voiliers-amel.www, french forum of amel's
boatowners, a file call "Replacing bowthruster seals". Of course, it's
in french, but the main interrest is in pictures which are very
comprehensive.

http://www.forum-voiliers-amel.net/dossiers/propulseur.php

Patrick (s/v Caramel SM2k #329)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HALYARDS

Melbourne <melbourne@...>
 

Peter,
Amel supplies a long halyard extension, a white and black-checked
messenger line about 6 mm in diameter. You should have this line
onboard. This line has a loop on one end. You tie the bitter end of
the existing (shortened) halyard to the loop; I use a bowline. Then,
you down-haul the sail, allowing the messenger line to pass up inside
the mast. Be careful to avoid a snag while feeding the knotted
assembly through the slot in the masts, both entering and exiting.
Also, when retrieving the messenger line in the main, be careful
that you don't get the the knot tangled with the spinnaker halyard
inside the mast. Keeping spinnaker halyard loose helps to alleviate
this problem. As usual, Amel's solution to extra halyard line length
is the quintessence of simplicity.
William Melbourne
S/V THIRD WSH
++++++++++

On May 30, 2008, at 11:26 AM, pjppappas wrote:

Greetings, My main and mizzen halyards have been shorten. T


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] BOW THRUSTER

dianexnielsen@...
 

Peter,
We just did this to our boat. There is a good description in the "Files"
section of the Amel Yacht Owners web-site, titled "Bow Thruster Service"
written by Amelliahona. It was not difficult. We were on the hard when we did it.

Pat & Diane
Shenanigans SM#123

In a message dated 5/30/2008 2:22:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pjppappas@yahoo.com writes:




Greetings, I am hoping that one of you could send to me instructions on
how to change the bow thruster seals. Thank You. Peter
Pappas "Callisto" SM 369 Vallarta, Mexico







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HALYARDS

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Greetings, My main and mizzen halyards have been shorten. This seems to
have been done by Amel. Knowing that Amel does not do anything without
a reason leaves me confused. How does one lower and raise the sails
with these shorten halyards. I could splice another line to the
existing halyard. However, I can not think of a knot to use for the
splice that would fit through the access to the inside of the mast. If
any one could shed some light on this for me I would appreciate it.
Thank you Peter Pappas "Callisto" SM 369 Vallarta Mexico


BOW THRUSTER

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Greetings, I am hoping that one of you could send to me instructions on
how to change the bow thurster seals. Thank You. Peter
Pappas "Callisto" SM 369 Vallarta, Mexico


Advanced tracking with Inmarsat D+ (a.k.a. DMR 200 D )

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

I am considering the installation of one of these units to protect myself (panic button) and
my SM2K when I am not on board. I would very much appreciate it if a member of the Group
who has already gone thru the process could let me know where the unit should be
located for best results, how difficult a job it was and overall satisfaction with the tracking
system for friends and family.
Thanks & fair winds
JP


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory

eric freedman
 

Hi what was the text?

Thanks

Eric



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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Gary, Thanks for that . I forgot to mention that I did get the local B & G guy here,( Daniel from Goodwood marine ) to check out the box and the transducers. He was emailing B&G to ensure he was collecting the tight readings with his meter so I am reasonably confident that he has diagnosed it right. However I shall be printing out your suggestions and putting them in my B&G folder just in case. By the way, one day I will put together a book of Gary Silver tips on SM's and make myself a fortune! Keep 'em coming!
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Interphase sonar

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Shenanigans, I think the answer to your question depends where you sail. We have the ordinary Scope and didn't use it in anger in Europe and throughout the Caribbean becuse the quality of charts and electronic charts made it redundant. However when we were in Chile I met a local yottie whose 35ft wooden boat was used as a survey boat for a company looking for new places to put their salmon farms.He was contantly in those parts of the charts marked ''unsurveyed" and he went everywhere on his forward seeking sounder and radar.He swore by it. He then showed me the best setting for the depths and distances ahead that we were interested in and we then spent some time getting used to analysing the little dots that appear on the screen.Lots show up that are not anything solid--fish, violent currents etc but when there is a rock you can see it clearly. I would not rely on it at above 2-3 knots ( he uses it at up to 8 when he has current pushing him). We spent three seasons in the Chilean canales and now use it more than we did before we arrived there.
It also has the added advantage of being a second echosounder should your main one pack up.
Our Scope is from 2000. They may have improved them since then.
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FW: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu Grounding (Bonding) Theory

eric freedman
 

Hi Ian,

It is rather simple to change the strap in the water.

There is a photo of the strap with measurements in the photo section. I used
1/8 inch thick by 2 inch copper stock. The hole is about one inch.

I was fortunate to have a nearby metal shop so they bent the copper for me.
I would check the measurements before bending as your bilge might be
different.

The bilge should be clean and dry. A shop vac comes in handy. You will need
a 30 mm socket and about 4 feet of extensions to get to the bolt. Mine was
rather loose and came off easily. I taped the extensions and socket together
to insure they did not come apart. I used a long pickup tool to remove it
from the bilge. I also taped the nut into the socket on installation.



What I did differently is I made the bracket about 12 inches longer so it
was way out of the bilge. You will to test fit it as if it is too long it
rubs against some plastic tubing.

Then the wiring is about 10 inches above the highest possible water . The
other thing that I did was to re use the end of the strap with all the wires
soldered to it.

I just cut the strap about 4 inches long and cleaned up the inside so it was
nice and shiny. I then wrapped it around the top of the new bonding strap
and through bolted the old copper to the new copper.

Fair winds

Eric sm 376 kimberlite







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Hi Gary, Our list for Guadeloupe grows, as yesterday we discovered that our
copper strap in the engine room bilge has also parted, about 2" from the
keel bolt.Like you, we spend 6 months a year ashore ( unconnected to shore
power and with batteries switched off) .The first two years we were afloat
in a marina in England but for the last 6 we have spent 5 months out of 6 at
anchor.Our aircon has had light use.
Can anyone speak of reconnecting a new copper strip? Can the keel bolt be
loosened and reattached while the boat is still afloat?
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Re: Interphase sonar

amarsini <alberto.marsini@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sailw32" <sailw32@...> wrote:

When I bought my SM it came with a brand new in the box Interphase
color twinscope sonar.I've been debating if its worth drilling a hole
in my hull and increasing drag and adding to the instrument clutter
or
put it on ebay and sell it.If anyone has one installed I would like
to
hear their opinion. Shenanigans SM 123
sorry but I did not understand whatkind of instrument is that. Thank
you.

Alberto (Sharki 144 - Super Antokles)


Re: Interphase sonar

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

I have the older, black and white, TwinScope on my Amle SM Hull # 335.
I have found it to be a very useful instrument. In fact I can attribute
two instances of hard grounding saves to it. It is not an end all and be
all type instrument and there is a learning curve to using it but I would
do it again (especially if I had the new color unit). Pay particular attention
to the details of mounting (allignment, placement out of turbulent water,
parallel to the water level etc) as the results are only as good as the
quality of the installation. I presume that you have the dual
transducer in one housing version. Mine had two separate transducers
so I had to drill two holes. The horizontal scan mode is less useful
than the vertical scan mode in my opinion. You will be impressed with
how thick the hull is when you drill that hole.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona

-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sailw32" <sailw32@...> wrote:

When I bought my SM it came with a brand new in the box Interphase
color twinscope sonar.I've been debating if its worth drilling a hole
in my hull and increasing drag and adding to the instrument clutter or
put it on ebay and sell it.If anyone has one installed I would like to
hear their opinion. Shenanigans SM 123


[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Ian:
The fact that the red light doesn't come on at all still doesn't exclude the
possibility of a bad transducer, it only means that the send receive loop is
not being completed. It could be a fault with the control box OR a trans-
ducer. I still recommend that you have the control box tested by B & G,
then if it turns out it is ok it would point to a transducer problem. My
experience with all things electronic is that the most common place to
find a fault is in the connectors. As there aren't connectors here, just
wires under screws, double check to make sure that the wires aren't
corroded and the screws are tight.

Have you measured, using a multimeter, the voltage at the control box
to verify that you have voltage there? The wires are labeled on the placard
that is in the bottom of the box. Just test between the ground and voltage
wires (I can't remember if this is a 24 volt or 12 volt system but I believe
the placard or your on board literature should say what it is). Find out from
B & G how to best test the transducers and their cables (e.g. measuring
voltage or resistance across the transducer etc), and post their response
here for the benefit of the group.
Good Luck, Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@...>
wrote:


Hi Gary,Your nose for where to look remains as sensitive as ever. When we tried to
adjust the knob no light came on at all. Turns out that the transducers are fine ( thank
goodness!) but there is a fault in the control box. Luckily I am going home to the UK next
week so B&G can deal with it there.Cheers, Ian

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