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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Do you want a spare Linear Actuator control board?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Very impressive Mark !!! Great work!
Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 3/18/18, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Do you want a spare Linear Actuator control board?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2018, 4:27 PM


 











In an odd coincidence, I was working on a making a
replacement PCB for the Bowthruster Linear Actuator before
Duane made this post. I didn't want to say something
about it on the forum until I actually had one completed and
tested on my boat though I did reach out to Duane through an
intermediary to let him know that I was already in the
process of making a replacement. I finally finished the
successful testing of the prototype this past weekend.



I uploaded some pics of the prototype PCB on the forums
here:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1697584458



And here is a link to a video of the bowthruster being
lowered and raised back up using the the prototype PCB:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/107vwBIrFxJI3APtEOF7hsBGKZMM6B8lP/view?usp=drivesdk



The PCB design mimics the original one in my SM #440 as much
as possible. It has a 10 amp fuse and the traces are all
sized larger than the original PCB. I used the original
components wherever I could. So far I've made only the
one board, but if anyone else is interested, I can readily
make more within a few weeks and can offer them for sale at
$250 each (plus shipping) with a 3 year warranty. You can
contact me at mfmcgovern at gmail.com if you are interested.




I hope this helps some of you. My next project is to
attempt to make a drop in replacement for my non-functioning
chain counter display unit. I expect this one will be a bit
more difficult but I will let you know if and when it is
done!



Regards,

Mark McGovern

SM #440 Cara

Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Thanks Paul
Glad to hear Maud is still there as she has always been pretty responsive when contacti g her in the past.
We emailed her direct 5 hours ago.
Best Regards
Colin

On 19 Mar. 2018 15:16, "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

We bought new bow thruster propellers a few weeks ago, and then we communicated with Maud, everything went very swift

Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

eric freedman
 

Colin,

I would somehow get the thruster area out of the water and glass it over.

I would then put some expanding foam in the thruster cavity.

Finally I would silicone and screw some sort of cover at the top of the

thruster trunk.

 

I had to replace my bow thruster due to a lightning strike which blew the propeller off of the bow thruster assembly.

 

It was probably 8 years ago.

 

I received the thruster from Amel  in 2 pieces the entire thruster assembly and a v shaped piece of fiberglass that had to be trimmed and fiber glassed to the bow thruster assembly which created the hull portion of the bow thruster.

 

Were you able to recover the bow thruster? You might contact Alexandre in Sint Maarten and ask if he can salvage the bow thruster from Nikimat and ship it to you. You will probably have to replace the bearings an gears. Knowing Alexandre, he might even have a new set of bearings.

 

I believe you might have a long wait for a new bow thruster from Amel. That is why I suggest making a semi-permanent closure of the bow thruster area.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 4:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

 

 

Hi sorry to hear of your troubles but as you rightly say it could have been much worse. 

 

I reckon that when pounding to windward there will be considerable pressure put on the seals with no plate there to take the impact. Going to windward in open ocean is not much fun at the best of times but with a niggling worry or a steady stream of water pouring in it could easily get out of hand. So you should do something. I made a similar passage in the 1990’s and Cap D’hombre on the north tip of Madagascar permanently blows at gale force. The southern Indian Ocean is a windy place, the trades tend to crank so even broad reaching the bow area will take a damn good hammering at times.

 

I would consider;

 

fitting a block of rubber/wood into the hole with silicon. The problem with wood is that it will swell and be difficult to extract.

filling the cavity with closed cell expanding foam.

How about, fitting plastic sheet to isolate the hole and then use expanding foam to fill the whole cavity, then cut it to shape and glass over the whole aperture area with epoxy and fibre glass. Then when you next haul out just grind it off  and pick out the foam and fit the new thruster, fill and prime and paint. You would need to get the bow out of the water to do the work. Perhaps going aground alongside somewhere and letting the tide drop a couple of feet to expose the area. 

 

I am sure that with a bit of lateral thinking you could blank off the aperture such that you would not need to worry about water ingress. Just make sure that you can extract and clean up what ever you do when you are ready to replace the thruster.

 

The above solution would be more watertight than the original!

 

You could also look at doing something on the inside but ………

 

 

 

Nick 

Amelia #54

On 19 Mar 2018, at 06:17, colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

This morning we accidentally nudged a reef here in Maldives. Fortunately we were only doiing 2.5kts so no hull damage, but in getting off we sheered the bowthruster unit completely off! By this I mean it snapped at the base of the shaft where the shaft gear meets the rotary gear.

 

I dived and we fortunately have absolutely no damage, other than needing a full new Bowthruster unit from the shaft top down - ie just the removable unit. Just some paint scratches at bottom of keel which are no problem.

 

All in all, we were fortunate to be going slowly, and to get off quickly as the tide was dropping, or we would be high and dry right now, with real potential for hull damage as the water dropped and the boat rested on the rocks.

 

I am waiting to get in touch with Maud at Amel when they open today, however have two quick questions for the group in the interim:

 

1) Anyone know what the bowthruster unit costs new and if Amel have them in stock?

 

2) We just have the shaft in the water, no cover plate as that is sheered off.. In current flat water at 3 - 7kts boat speed tested, we have no water coming in through the bowthruster unit at all. Has anyone had experience sailing without the cover plate in big seas? Did you take on water?

 

Having departed from Australia almost a year ago, and enjoyed cruising all of Indonesia and SE Asia with absolute trouble free cruising in this boat, we are now half way across the North Indian Ocean, and next about to cross the Southern Indian Ocean, so have every chance of big wild seas ahead. From here in the Maldives we head to Chagos next mid April till mid May, then head south to Rodriguez (June), Mauritius (July), then Reunion (July/Aug), and back up and around the top of Madagascar (NosyB - Aug/Sept) and down to Cape Town.

 

Our current intentions are to return to Male, the capital of Maldives, to h ave a new bowthruster shipped here from Amel. Depending on how long that may take Amel, and the levels of import duty in the various Indian Ocean countries,  we may need to attempt the balance of Indian Ocean crossing without it, but that worries me a lot.



This is the reason I seek the wisdom of this group, from those of you who know best, and possibly even some who may have even experienced the same issue of cruising on without the bowthruster foot and cover plate in place?

 

Many thanks

 

Colin Streeter

SV Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

svislandpearl.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thru-hull fitting for Depth

Barry Connor
 

Hello Duane,

Although I have a 54 it seems that we have the same original depth sounder.
I have been working for the past year on upgrading from NMEA 0183 to NMEA 2000. I did the conversion for depth and wind by first using the Actisense NGW-1 when I put the backbone in for the new Furuno Multi Function Display TZTL12F. I ran the new display with both original displays, Furuno Marine Radar RDP-148 at helm and RDP-149 at chart table.
I have just now completed the change with a new Radar dome and new B&G depth/speed and wind package.
The depth sounder you have is what I had, D800-498. 20-386-02. Why I did not do this at first was because I could not get the correct information about using the original through hull fitting. It took time to find out that I could keep the original through hull fitting and just insert a new sounder, this is the Airmar IDST-N2000 20-033-01. The only difference is that the new through hull fitting comes with a flap on the hull fitting to slow water coming into the boat when you are changing the inserts.
The outside dimension of the both the old and new through hull fittings is 51mm outside and the inside is 25mm. 
So I installed the new sounder into the original through hull fitting with no problems.
As I'm no longer using the NMEA 0183 system I have taken out both original Furuno displays and the Actisense NGW-1.

These items together with the original Radar dome are now available if anyone needs this gear, all fittings, cables and manuals are included.

As the new Airmar sounder package comes with a paddle wheel incorporated I will not be using the originally installed sonic speed.
I hope that this information is of help.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny Connor
"Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Marina di Ragusa.  Sicily 


On Sunday, March 18, 2018 2:42 PM, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Can someone tell me about if the OEM thru-hull fitting for the Airmar depth sensor is a 51mm housing?  

Mine is marked D800-P498 on the tag attached to the sensor wire, and "20-386-02" is printed on the top of the sensor.  I'm looking at the Airmar DX900+ and it says it will retrofit into the 51mm housings.  I cannot find any legacy product information on the Airmar website.

I remember a thread not too long ago on replacing the B&G Sonic Speed with an Airmar CS4500, and someone said they had to enlarge the hole to accomodate the new sensor.  The CS4500 also notes it will retrofit into most 51mm housings, that's why I'm concerned.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

Paul Osterberg
 

We bought new bow thruster propellers a few weeks ago, and then we communicated with Maud, everything went very swift
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Hi Nick & Alan

Many thanks for your helpful thoughts.

All
Did I hear somewhere that Maud was no longer the person to communicate with at Amel? If so who and which email address would be best for an urgent high priority response?

I do hope to hear from others and also particularly from anyone who has sailed any distance with the bowthrustet unit missing.

Fortunately this boat #332 was one of the newer 2000 models which had the nom twist box inserted just above the thruster gear unit and the break was below that, in the carbon fiber gear housing. So in our case the twist prevention block is still attached applying upward presdure on the seals to prevent water ingress. Now been 4 hours motoring back morth toeatds Male eith not a drop of water yet, but ....... this is in  flat water in Vaavu Atoll, not open Indian Ocean.

Colin Streeter
SV Island Pearl II
SM53 #332 Maldives



On 19 Mar. 2018 14:01, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Colin,

Bad news indeed.
I would think that given you have no shaft, the if you put what remains of the bow thruster in the down position, the seal around the shaft and the foam seal on the motor side would probably keep most of the water out.
Good luck
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Colin,
Bad news indeed.
I would think that given you have no shaft, the if you put what remains of the bow thruster in the down position, the seal around the shaft and the foam seal on the motor side would probably keep most of the water out.
Good luck
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi again Colin.if you didn't retrieve the thruster it would not be difficult to securely  plug the hole it goes through.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 19 Mar 2018 19:17, "colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

This morning we accidentally nudged a reef here in Maldives. Fortunately we were only doiing 2.5kts so no hull damage, but in getting off we sheered the bowthruster unit completely off! By this I mean it snapped at the base of the shaft where the shaft gear meets the rotary gear.


I dived and we fortunately have absolutely no damage, other than needing a full new Bowthruster unit from the shaft top down - ie just the removable unit. Just some paint scratches at bottom of keel which are no problem.


All in all, we were fortunate to be going slowly, and to get off quickly as the tide was dropping, or we would be high and dry right now, with real potential for hull damage as the water dropped and the boat rested on the rocks.


I am waiting to get in touch with Maud at Amel when they open today, however have two quick questions for the group in the interim:


1) Anyone know what the bowthruster unit costs new and if Amel have them in stock?


2) We just have the shaft in the water, no cover plate as that is sheered off. In current flat water at 3 - 7kts boat speed tested, we have no water coming in through the bowthruster unit at all. Has anyone had experience sailing without the cover plate in big seas? Did you take on water?


Having departed from Australia almost a year ago, and enjoyed cruising all of Indonesia and SE Asia with absolute trouble free cruising in this boat, we are now half way across the North Indian Ocean, and next about to cross the Southern Indian Ocean, so have every chance of big wild seas ahead. From here in the Maldives we head to Chagos next mid April till mid May, then head south to Rodriguez (June), Mauritius (July), then Reunion (July/Aug), and back up and around the top of Madagascar (NosyB - Aug/Sept) and down to Cape Town.


Our current intentions are to return to Male, the capital of Maldives, to have a new bowthruster shipped here from Amel. Depending on how long that may take Amel, and the levels of import duty in the various Indian Ocean countries,  we may need to attempt the balance of Indian Ocean crossing without it, but that worries me a lot.


This is the reason I seek the wisdom of this group, from those of you who know best, and possibly even some who may have even experienced the same issue of cruising on without the bowthruster foot and cover plate in place?


Many thanks


Colin Streeter

SV Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

svislandpearl.com







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi sorry to hear of your troubles but as you rightly say it could have been much worse. 

I reckon that when pounding to windward there will be considerable pressure put on the seals with no plate there to take the impact. Going to windward in open ocean is not much fun at the best of times but with a niggling worry or a steady stream of water pouring in it could easily get out of hand. So you should do something. I made a similar passage in the 1990’s and Cap D’hombre on the north tip of Madagascar permanently blows at gale force. The southern Indian Ocean is a windy place, the trades tend to crank so even broad reaching the bow area will take a damn good hammering at times.

I would consider;

fitting a block of rubber/wood into the hole with silicon. The problem with wood is that it will swell and be difficult to extract.
filling the cavity with closed cell expanding foam.
How about, fitting plastic sheet to isolate the hole and then use expanding foam to fill the whole cavity, then cut it to shape and glass over the whole aperture area with epoxy and fibre glass. Then when you next haul out just grind it off  and pick out the foam and fit the new thruster, fill and prime and paint. You would need to get the bow out of the water to do the work. Perhaps going aground alongside somewhere and letting the tide drop a couple of feet to expose the area. 

I am sure that with a bit of lateral thinking you could blank off the aperture such that you would not need to worry about water ingress. Just make sure that you can extract and clean up what ever you do when you are ready to replace the thruster.

The above solution would be more watertight than the original!

You could also look at doing something on the inside but ………



Nick 
Amelia #54

On 19 Mar 2018, at 06:17, colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


This morning we accidentally nudged a reef here in Maldives. Fortunately we were only doiing 2.5kts so no hull damage, but in getting off we sheered the bowthruster unit completely off! By this I mean it snapped at the base of the shaft where the shaft gear meets the rotary gear.


I dived and we fortunately have absolutely no damage, other than needing a full new Bowthruster unit from the shaft top down - ie just the removable unit. Just some paint scratches at bottom of keel which are no problem.


All in all, we were fortunate to be going slowly, and to get off quickly as the tide was dropping, or we would be high and dry right now, with real potential for hull damage as the water dropped and the boat rested on the rocks.


I am waiting to get in touch with Maud at Amel when they open today, however have two quick questions for the group in the interim:


1) Anyone know what the bowthruster unit costs new and if Amel have them in stock?


2) We just have the shaft in the water, no cover plate as that is sheered off. In current flat water at 3 - 7kts boat speed tested, we have no water coming in through the bowthruster unit at all. Has anyone had experience sailing without the cover plate in big seas? Did you take on water?


Having departed from Australia almost a year ago, and enjoyed cruising all of Indonesia and SE Asia with absolute trouble free cruising in this boat, we are now half way across the North Indian Ocean, and next about to cross the Southern Indian Ocean, so have every chance of big wild seas ahead. From here in the Maldives we head to Chagos next mid April till mid May, then head south to Rodriguez (June), Mauritius (July), then Reunion (July/Aug), and back up and around the top of Madagascar (NosyB - Aug/Sept) and down to Cape Town.


Our current intentions are to return to Male, the capital of Maldives, to h ave a new bowthruster shipped here from Amel. Depending on how long that may take Amel, and the levels of import duty in the various Indian Ocean countries,  we may need to attempt the balance of Indian Ocean crossing without it, but that worries me a lot.


This is the reason I seek the wisdom of this group, from those of you who know best, and possibly even some who may have even experienced the same issue of cruising on without the bowthruster foot and cover plate in place?


Many thanks


Colin Streeter

SV Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

svislandpearl.com









Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New member question

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Paul,

just a small info: the last Santorin was built in 1997.

Good luck in your search.

Olivier

On Monday, March 19, 2018, 4:02:55 AM GMT+1, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Hi ,

If you are around Wednesday, Thursday or Friday, we will be in Martinique on Kimberlite. Ponton 4.

Please drop by

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 5:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New member question

 

 

Hello all, I just registered with this group because, after careful consideration of several bluewater yacht brands (we are past Pacific Seacraft owners), and time spent as crew on a Super Maramu, we have (almost) decided to purchase our own Amel.  Next week we are headed for Martinique to look at a few and I have a question for the group.

 

We will be looking at 2 Santorins and a SM.  

 

My question:  One of the Santorins, a 1991, was re-powered in 2011 with a "Midif MD 1760."  Looking this up I find it is a 50-hp turbocharged Mitsubishi-built engine, distributed by Midif in France.  I could find no reviews or discussion on this engine anywhere online.  Does anybody have any experience with or reliable info on this engine?  Reliability?  Is it suitable for a Santorin?  I assume all parts and support would need to come from the distributor in France.  

 

I will know more after a week on Martinique, but I am trying to be a well-informed shopper...

 

The other Santorin, a 1999, while "younger", has its original Volvo engine with 3300 hr (and original standing rigging), vs. the "older" Santorin which has the young Midif engine with 812 hr (and new standing rigging and seacocks). 

 

Don't want to post too much at once.  Thanks for any advice.

 

Regards,

 

Paul Cooper 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Colin, bad luck. Were you able to retrieve the broken part. It is amazing what can be repaired when you are cruising remote locations away from your 1st world services.
All the best.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 19 Mar 2018 19:17, "colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

This morning we accidentally nudged a reef here in Maldives. Fortunately we were only doiing 2.5kts so no hull damage, but in getting off we sheered the bowthruster unit completely off! By this I mean it snapped at the base of the shaft where the shaft gear meets the rotary gear.


I dived and we fortunately have absolutely no damage, other than needing a full new Bowthruster unit from the shaft top down - ie just the removable unit. Just some paint scratches at bottom of keel which are no problem.


All in all, we were fortunate to be going slowly, and to get off quickly as the tide was dropping, or we would be high and dry right now, with real potential for hull damage as the water dropped and the boat rested on the rocks.


I am waiting to get in touch with Maud at Amel when they open today, however have two quick questions for the group in the interim:


1) Anyone know what the bowthruster unit costs new and if Amel have them in stock?


2) We just have the shaft in the water, no cover plate as that is sheered off. In current flat water at 3 - 7kts boat speed tested, we have no water coming in through the bowthruster unit at all. Has anyone had experience sailing without the cover plate in big seas? Did you take on water?


Having departed from Australia almost a year ago, and enjoyed cruising all of Indonesia and SE Asia with absolute trouble free cruising in this boat, we are now half way across the North Indian Ocean, and next about to cross the Southern Indian Ocean, so have every chance of big wild seas ahead. From here in the Maldives we head to Chagos next mid April till mid May, then head south to Rodriguez (June), Mauritius (July), then Reunion (July/Aug), and back up and around the top of Madagascar (NosyB - Aug/Sept) and down to Cape Town.


Our current intentions are to return to Male, the capital of Maldives, to have a new bowthruster shipped here from Amel. Depending on how long that may take Amel, and the levels of import duty in the various Indian Ocean countries,  we may need to attempt the balance of Indian Ocean crossing without it, but that worries me a lot.


This is the reason I seek the wisdom of this group, from those of you who know best, and possibly even some who may have even experienced the same issue of cruising on without the bowthruster foot and cover plate in place?


Many thanks


Colin Streeter

SV Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

svislandpearl.com







New Bowthruster unit - cost and in-stock?

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

This morning we accidentally nudged a reef here in Maldives. Fortunately we were only doiing 2.5kts so no hull damage, but in getting off we sheered the bowthruster unit completely off! By this I mean it snapped at the base of the shaft where the shaft gear meets the rotary gear.


I dived and we fortunately have absolutely no damage, other than needing a full new Bowthruster unit from the shaft top down - ie just the removable unit. Just some paint scratches at bottom of keel which are no problem.


All in all, we were fortunate to be going slowly, and to get off quickly as the tide was dropping, or we would be high and dry right now, with real potential for hull damage as the water dropped and the boat rested on the rocks.


I am waiting to get in touch with Maud at Amel when they open today, however have two quick questions for the group in the interim:


1) Anyone know what the bowthruster unit costs new and if Amel have them in stock?


2) We just have the shaft in the water, no cover plate as that is sheered off. In current flat water at 3 - 7kts boat speed tested, we have no water coming in through the bowthruster unit at all. Has anyone had experience sailing without the cover plate in big seas? Did you take on water?


Having departed from Australia almost a year ago, and enjoyed cruising all of Indonesia and SE Asia with absolute trouble free cruising in this boat, we are now half way across the North Indian Ocean, and next about to cross the Southern Indian Ocean, so have every chance of big wild seas ahead. From here in the Maldives we head to Chagos next mid April till mid May, then head south to Rodriguez (June), Mauritius (July), then Reunion (July/Aug), and back up and around the top of Madagascar (NosyB - Aug/Sept) and down to Cape Town.


Our current intentions are to return to Male, the capital of Maldives, to have a new bowthruster shipped here from Amel. Depending on how long that may take Amel, and the levels of import duty in the various Indian Ocean countries,  we may need to attempt the balance of Indian Ocean crossing without it, but that worries me a lot.


This is the reason I seek the wisdom of this group, from those of you who know best, and possibly even some who may have even experienced the same issue of cruising on without the bowthruster foot and cover plate in place?


Many thanks


Colin Streeter

SV Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

svislandpearl.com







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

karkauai
 

Hi Thomas,
I've used Barnacle Buster Yearly on my whole raw water system.  It remains completely free of scale, growth, etc.  I don't know if it would clean out a clogged pipe, but I'd give it a try.

Kent
Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Do you want a spare Linear Actuator control board?

eric freedman
 

adding a fuse to the PCB on the bowthruster is quite simple. I added one to the + wire

on the pcp in a small fuse holder.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 5:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Do you want a spare Linear Actuator control board?

 

 

Mark,

 

Congratulations! This is really very good news for All SM owners that have electronic sensors on their bow thrusters.

 

If I still owned BeBe, I would buy one today for several reasons: 1.) The PCB on BeBe #387 was NOT protected by a fuse. 2.) Sooner or later, possibly every SM will need one of these and without Amel supporting it, we have few choices.

 

Maybe you should think about the Amel electronic chain counter as your next project.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 4:27 PM, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


In an odd coincidence, I was working on a making a replacement PCB for the Bowthruster Linear Actuator before Duane made this post. I didn't want to say something about it on the forum until I actually had one completed and tested on my boat though I did reach out to Duane through an intermediary to let him know that I was already in the process of making a replacement. I finally finished the successful testing of the prototype this past weekend.

I uploaded some pics of the prototype PCB on the forums here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1697584458

And here is a link to a video of the bowthruster being lowered and raised back up using the the prototype PCB: https://drive.google.com/file/d/107vwBIrFxJI3APtEOF7hsBGKZMM6B8lP/view?usp=drivesdk

The PCB design mimics the original one in my SM #440 as much as possible. It has a 10 amp fuse and the traces are all sized larger than the original PCB. I used the original components wherever I could. So far I've made only the one board, but if anyone else is interested, I can readily make more within a few weeks and can offer them for sale at $250 each (plus shipping) with a 3 year warranty. You can contact me at mfmcgovern at gmail.com if you are interested..

I hope this helps some of you. My next project is to attempt to make a drop in replacement for my non-functioning chain counter display unit. I expect this one will be a bit more difficult but I will let you know if and when it is done!

Regards,
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA



 

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New member question

eric freedman
 

Hi ,

If you are around Wednesday, Thursday or Friday, we will be in Martinique on Kimberlite. Ponton 4.

Please drop by

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 5:54 PM
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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New member question

 

 

Hello all, I just registered with this group because, after careful consideration of several bluewater yacht brands (we are past Pacific Seacraft owners), and time spent as crew on a Super Maramu, we have (almost) decided to purchase our own Amel.  Next week we are headed for Martinique to look at a few and I have a question for the group.

 

We will be looking at 2 Santorins and a SM.  

 

My question:  One of the Santorins, a 1991, was re-powered in 2011 with a "Midif MD 1760."  Looking this up I find it is a 50-hp turbocharged Mitsubishi-built engine, distributed by Midif in France.  I could find no reviews or discussion on this engine anywhere online.  Does anybody have any experience with or reliable info on this engine?  Reliability?  Is it suitable for a Santorin?  I assume all parts and support would need to come from the distributor in France.  

 

I will know more after a week on Martinique, but I am trying to be a well-informed shopper...

 

The other Santorin, a 1999, while "younger", has its original Volvo engine with 3300 hr (and original standing rigging), vs. the "older" Santorin which has the young Midif engine with 812 hr (and new standing rigging and seacocks). 

 

Don't want to post too much at once.  Thanks for any advice.

 

Regards,

 

Paul Cooper 

 


Re: New member question

paul.cooper74@...
 

Thanks Craig.  That's reassuring to hear you say that about the 3300 hrs on the Volvo, because there are many other nice upgrades on the 1999 I am attracted to.  And sounds like the rigging replacement may not be as expensive as I imagined.   Anyway, I will keep an open mind next week.  No expectations--just gonna have a nice vacation on Martinique and, who knows, might end up with a boat...


Re: New member question

Craig Briggs
 

Very exciting, Paul, and early welcome to the DB.

Can't really say anything about the specific boats, of course, but, in general, 3300 on the Volvo should not be an issue if it's been well maintained.  You may well get two to three times that and if you do the same 150 hours a year that it's had that will last you maybe another 40 years!  My Perkins twin to that Volvo is at 7500 hours and shows no signs of needing replacement.  Plus the Volvo is naturally aspirated, which eliminates the turbo complexity. Then again Mitsubishi is a reputable brand, although I know nothing of the Midif.

The rigging on the original is coming up on 20 years so you'll want to evaluate the history. With only 150 hours on the engine it suggests to me the boat was lightly used (I average about 300 a year and only sail 6 months per year, which I'd consider maybe average usage.) If the boat was in the Caribbean all that time it may be due for a re-rig (about $5000 from Acmo in France and an easy DIY job). If it's been in a northern climate with light use, it may be fine.

It may come down to the overall condition, and the nod could go to the 8 years newer one. It'll be fun to learn what you discover.

Good luck shopping,
Craig SN#68 Sangaris



---In amelyachtowners@..., <paul.cooper74@...> wrote :

Hello all, I just registered with this group because, after careful consideration of several bluewater yacht brands (we are past Pacific Seacraft owners), and time spent as crew on a Super Maramu, we have (almost) decided to purchase our own Amel.  Next week we are headed for Martinique to look at a few and I have a question for the group.

We will be looking at 2 Santorins and a SM.  

My question:  One of the Santorins, a 1991, was re-powered in 2011 with a "Midif MD 1760."  Looking this up I find it is a 50-hp turbocharged Mitsubishi-built engine, distributed by Midif in France.  I could find no reviews or discussion on this engine anywhere online.  Does anybody have any experience with or reliable info on this engine?  Reliability?  Is it suitable for a Santorin?  I assume all parts and support would need to come from the distributor in France.  

I will know more after a week on Martinique, but I am trying to be a well-informed shopper...

The other Santorin, a 1999, while "younger", has its original Volvo engine with 3300 hr (and original standing rigging), vs. the "older" Santorin which has the young Midif engine with 812 hr (and new standing rigging and seacocks). 

Don't want to post too much at once.  Thanks for any advice.

Regards,

Paul Cooper 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Alternating hot and cold water in showers

Peter Jaeger
 

Hoi Philipp
Thanks for your note, good to know rhat Wilson looks OK. We are planning our next trip to LR.
Could you fix the instable warm water flow?

Fair winds
Peter

SY Wilson, SM 003, La Rochelle

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Am Samstag, März 17, 2018, 21:48 schrieb philipp.sollberger@... [amelyachtowners] :

 

Hi Peter,

Nice to read from you. We are just in La Rochelle and Wilson is looking good!
Tomorrow I will examine the pressure on the cold water tank and also on the boiler for the hot water.

The pressure difference can be an anwer for the uncomfortable situation.

Thank's a lot.

Fair winds,

Philipp


Re: &#92;Generator speed vs frequency

Craig Briggs
 

Wow, Herbert, that sounds very good, indeed. Yes, there are many options to the old legacy designs running at fixed (and inefficient) rpm that give quiet(er) operation, better fuel economy, cleaner emissions and weight savings.
Kali Spera, Craig SN#68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <herbert@...> wrote :

Craig, 

we have an Fischer Panda 4000i with a 1 cylinder kubota engine, 4kw.  Initial it had fixed RPM ~2900 but two years ago I upgraded it with a variable speed option (step motor that pushes the throttle depending on the load), now it turns between 2400 and 2900, depending on the load.  normally it runs with low speed because normal load is 1 to 2 kw, so it runs with ~2500. It runs more silent now and only uses ~0,5l diesel per hour compared to ~0.8l we used before.

herbert
SN120, KALI MERA, on the hard in Shelter Bay


New member question

paul.cooper74@...
 

Hello all, I just registered with this group because, after careful consideration of several bluewater yacht brands (we are past Pacific Seacraft owners), and time spent as crew on a Super Maramu, we have (almost) decided to purchase our own Amel.  Next week we are headed for Martinique to look at a few and I have a question for the group.

We will be looking at 2 Santorins and a SM.  

My question:  One of the Santorins, a 1991, was re-powered in 2011 with a "Midif MD 1760."  Looking this up I find it is a 50-hp turbocharged Mitsubishi-built engine, distributed by Midif in France.  I could find no reviews or discussion on this engine anywhere online.  Does anybody have any experience with or reliable info on this engine?  Reliability?  Is it suitable for a Santorin?  I assume all parts and support would need to come from the distributor in France.  

I will know more after a week on Martinique, but I am trying to be a well-informed shopper...

The other Santorin, a 1999, while "younger", has its original Volvo engine with 3300 hr (and original standing rigging), vs. the "older" Santorin which has the young Midif engine with 812 hr (and new standing rigging and seacocks). 

Don't want to post too much at once.  Thanks for any advice.

Regards,

Paul Cooper