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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: lifting with mizzen boom, climbing mizzen, and halyard lengths
James Cromie <jamescromie@...>
Whenever I go up the mast, I trail a static line attached to my harness that I can fix to the mast if I need to descend in the case of some problem that mandates coming off the winch system. (deck hand incapacitated, mechanical failure of primary system, etc.)
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For descending, one can use a munter hitch (or in my case, I keep a belay device always attached on my harness). A munter hitch can be made without any additional hardware or devices except a carabiner (use locking) to attach to your harness. This hitch is commonly used in mountain rescue scenarios. It is important to always have a method of ascending / descending independently as a fall back plan. James Soteria SM2K 347
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Re: My first bow thruster service...
Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Hi Bill,
I'm also servicing my bow thruster for the first time. Wondering how yours went and whether you decided to use RTV everywhere? I'm also trying to figure out what the proper size is for the o-rings. Parts lists I've seen show 78 x 3 mm and 40 x 2.5 mm. Are the 78 and 40 the inner or outer diameters? Also, any advice on where to find the 10mm neoprene seals? We're currently in the Fort Lauderdale area. Was thinking of getting a 10mm sheet and cutting seals from that. Thanks, Mike SV Trilogy SM#23
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine / cdrive adjustments?
eric <kimberlite@...>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] engine / cdrive adjustments?
snw7tgmcrs6nmg5mdg55r3xpowhzm3kjxc2uqysc@...
Hello Phil!
During our circum navigation I had to install a new engine here in New Zealand. Now I do have a vibration on idle speed and on 1800 rpm. It doesn’t matter if the boat is in gear or out of gear. Please could you explain how I can adjust or find out the right height of the c-drive? Unfortunately Amel didn’t answer my questions about that. Thank you very much for your kind answer. Greetings from Coromandel. Hannes SN 106 Cayenne
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Airmar P79 Installation
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Bill, Thanks. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 1:19 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Airmar P79 Installation
Eric,
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi Colin, What is a p79? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Duane
We placed a P79 in the fwd cabin, right up front under the floor - off centre to the Stbd side as an extra backup (and/or early warning which travelling slowly fwd into shallower water as it is about 2m fwd of the one outside the front heads). It is normally switched off, as it makes a clicking noise in the front cabin when on.
Anyhow, to get to the point, we simply sanded the gelcoat a little to smoothen it off totally, not to remove any of it. The u nit works perfectly like that.
Cheers
Colin - SV Island Pearl II sm #332 Maldives, soon to head for Chagos
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:15 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Bill,
Thanks. I would bet it is paint, why brush on gelcoat? and then it has to come off.
Duane Wanderer, SM#477
"Everything is harder on a boat" - Noah
-- Colin Streeter 0411 016 445
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Re: lifting with mizzen boom, climbing mizzen, and halyard lengths
Duane Siegfri
Ian,
I hadn't tried to tie a prusik around the mast, good idea! One other way to tie yourself on to the dynamic line (the one going to a winch) is to tie a figure 8 with a three foot tail, put the tail thru the attachment point on your harness/bosuns chair, then take the tail and tie a "follow-on" figure 8 where the tail traces the lines of the figure 8 and you wind up with a figure 8 with a bight. This way you don't need a carabiner. Duane
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Airmar P79 Installation
Eric, Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Airmar P79 Installation
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi Colin, What is a p79? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 10:47 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Airmar P79 Installation
Hi Duane
We placed a P79 in the fwd cabin, right up front under the floor - off centre to the Stbd side as an extra backup (and/or early warning which travelling slowly fwd into shallower water as it is about 2m fwd of the one outside the front heads). It is normally switched off, as it makes a clicking noise in the front cabin when on.
Anyhow, to get to the point, we simply sanded the gelcoat a little to smoothen it off totally, not to remove any of it. The unit works perfectly like that.
Cheers
Colin - SV Island Pearl II sm #332 Maldives, soon to head for Chagos
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:15 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Bill,
Thanks. I would bet it is paint, why brush on gelcoat? and then it has to come off.
Duane Wanderer, SM#477
"Everything is harder on a boat" - Noah
-- Colin Streeter 0411 016 445
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Airmar P79 Installation
Hi Duane We placed a P79 in the fwd cabin, right up front under the floor - off centre to the Stbd side as an extra backup (and/or early warning which travelling slowly fwd into shallower water as it is about 2m fwd of the one outside the front heads). It is normally switched off, as it makes a clicking noise in the front cabin when on. Anyhow, to get to the point, we simply sanded the gelcoat a little to smoothen it off totally, not to remove any of it. The unit works perfectly like that. Cheers Colin - SV Island Pearl II sm #332 Maldives, soon to head for Chagos
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:15 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] lifting with mizzen boom, climbing mizzen, and halyard lengths
Ryan, Good points. I think two lines can be better than one line and a static line except in the situation where you only have a total of two crew members: 1 to go up and 1 to hoist. And, the one thing most people don't think about is how to lower using only the static line with a person locked to the line with a weight activated cam cleat locked to the static line. Don't forget that it is easy to drop the mizzen sail and use that mast-enclosed halyard. Regardless of the method used, be sure to think about everything, including what to do if an electric winch begins to runaway. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
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Spare Parts list / outside bulbs for SM2K
olaf_renos@...
Hello SM2K owners,
As some of you already knows I bought some weeks ago a SM2K.
Now I would like to know the required spare parts. Would you pls share your spare parts list with me to get a feeling what parts are required.
I also would like to know which bulbs () are installed/used outside (Watt, Size etc.), e.g. for the navigation light, anchor lights, deck light etc. Does anyone of you have list of all the bulbs?
Thanks so much in
advance Olaf S/V Sayonara II, SM2K 392 currently in Martinique
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: PredictWind
Patrick McAneny
Colin, That is the kind of experience with it I was looking for. Their support seems good , I have not signed up yet but they offered me the professional version to use for a couple of weeks to familiarize myself with it, problem is I am sitting in my office sailing routes vicariously .
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Thanks,
Pat SM#123
-----Original Message----- From: Sailing Island Pearl colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Tue, Apr 3, 2018 3:53 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: PredictWind We use the PW professional package with ocean currents included, and have found this excellent in crossing the North Indian Ocean from Thailand to Maldives. In particular it was spot on for ocean currents and pretty good on winds, and we run an update every day via the IridiumGo to ensure that we are always in the best possible currents and wind.
Agree with the 80% ratio of the Amel 54 Polars. That has been what we ended up dialing it down to as well. At first I was annoyed that the Amel 54 appeared so much faster!!! ......but then realised this is based on best speed and sail plan always ...... and of course we are mere cruisers, sailing cautiously always to ensure our aging sails get us all the way around the world!.
We are not sure we can afford the PW professional package cost all the way around the world, (and certainly turned it off in Asia for 6 months when not doing ocean crossings) but this software has been a game changer for us and particularly worthwhile the cost for the Indian Ocean crossing so far. From Maldives we sail this month for Chagos, then on to Rodriguez, Mauritius, Madagascar and down to Cape Town etc.., so are very please to have the full PW package working on board.
Cheers
Colin - Island Pearl II - SM#332 - Maldives
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:35 AM, 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] lifting with mizzen boom, climbing mizzen, and halyard lengths
James Alton
Danny,
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I will second your concerns about using external halyards, I avoid them as well and this started even before the incident described to follow: I once had the swivel of a spinnaker halyard part offshore which didn’t surprise me that much. What did surprise me was that I replaced the broken block with an identical block that had been stored for some number of years in a drawer on the boat. The block was still in it’s original packaging so unused, vintage unknown as this was a delivery job so not my boat. The replacement block broke in exactly the same place when I tied off the spinnaker halyard with just a bit of tension added by hand. The break was rusty and it looked like crevice corrosion of the stainless. Thanks for bringing this danger to the attention of other Amelians. Best, James SV Sueño Maramu #220
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: lifting with mizzen boom, climbing mizzen, and halyard lengths
Ryan Meador
I prefer to use two halyards, both of them for hauling (no static line). I don't see the advantage of using a static line vs just putting the prussik around the mast, so I use the line the way a halyard is meant to be used. If both halyards are reasonably tight, it also greatly reduces the shock loading on the remaining one if one fails. If one of the halyards is internal, I'm not terribly worried about the other being external (like on the mainmast). But I don't have that option on the mizzenmast, unless I do as Danny did and have a full-length mizzen halyard made up (and drop the sail). Surely, Henri Amel had a solution to this problem? Or was he just comfortable going up on a single, external halyard? I like Paul's idea of a dyneema loop through the shackle... that takes out one failure mode, though still leaves the possibility of the rope failing (or being let go). On the lone occasion I've had to go up a mast on a single (internal) halyard, I used a prussik-like knot as a fall arrester. It seems to be pretty safe (it can definitely take my weight dropping from the max distance I'd be before moving the knot), but if you actually need to use it, you're now stuck up there... I don't have a good solution for that. I hope the local fire department does (and I'm at the dock)! Or maybe the Coast Guard could send a helicopter? :D Duane, thank you for the reminder about the figure-8 knot to tie onto the halyard. I shouldn't have used the phrase "clip on". Does anyone have recommended lengths for the ballooner and utility halyards that differ from what I wrote in my first message? Should I just add a few meters to each? Thanks, Ryan SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Ian parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: lifting with mizzen boom, climbing mizzen, and halyard lengths
Ian Park
If I can’t use two halliards to ascend the mast I take two long loops of either tape or 8mm rope. A Prussik loop round the mast can be pushed up but holds under the tension of a fall. The second one is to attach above the spreaders so you never rely on just one attachment.
Prussik loops were used in climbing before ascenders were invented, but they do work around the dimension of a mast. Also useful as a foot loop to stand in if you want to get above the height of the mast to work. Ian Ocean Hobo SN 96
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Re: Just a bit off topic, but worth saying...
John Clark
Welcome aboard Brent. I was in your shoes just 18 months ago. You will not regret buying an Amel. Hope to meet you somewhere in the world! (note not many owners forums can say that and mean it. )
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John Clark SV Annie SM 37 Cave Cay, en- route to Georgetown Exuma. ---In amelyachtowners@..., <brentcameron61@...> wrote : At the risk of sounding sappy, if there was one thing I sometimes wish this forum had, it was a like button for posts like Bill’s - although they can certainly be abused so maybe not and instead I’ll pile on to Bill’s excellent message. You Amel owners (and I’ve had the pleasure of sailing with a few of you and meeting a few more in person) are a truly EXCEPTIONAL group of individuals. The spirit in which you help each other and offer “corrective guidance” in a respectful manner is inspiring and makes me want to become one of you even more. Since I retired last spring, I’ve ruthlessly reduced my emails by at least two orders of magnitude and while I’ve followed lots of groups on various topics on a regular basis over the years, this is the ONLY one that I still allow to send me emails on a daily basis because 1) I almost always learn something interesting that I file away for the future, 2) it’s almost never acrimonious and it’s wonderful to watch you folks pass out your hard earned lessons so generously even if the question has been asked and answered a dozen times before and 3) while there may be a moderator, that function is never needed. Who ever is doing it is doing a fantastic job because it seems to me that when someone strays outside the lines a little bit someone else will inevitably show up with some gentle suggestion - often with a good bit of humour - to redirect the discussion. I usually end up chuckling at how well it was handled. No egos stroked or bruised. Nobody strays from the purpose into other more inflammatory topics. I’ve watched you graciously bring new owners into your community and offer lots of helpful advice as well as tolerate lurkers like myself who want to join your community as well. It’s really something to see - you’ve all built something really valuable to the Amel brand here. I think you’re by far their biggest asset. As a potential owner I’d say it’s one of the top things pushing me into buying my own Amel - knowing that if I got in to trouble or didn’t understand something that within a few hours that I’d have lots of helpful solutions as at least one of you had probably seen the problem before. This could be scary when you are sinking a substantial portion of your life’s savings into an asset that can literally sink you. I haven’t met most of you yet but I know that I want to see you all out there soon. Thank you for creating such a gem of invaluable information and in such a way that is a pleasure to follow. I appreciate being able to learn and live vicariously from all of you more than you’d ever guess. I hope to be returning the favour soon. Brent Cameron Future SM Owner, long time admirer.
On Mar 29, 2018, 9:56 PM -0400, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>, wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: PredictWind
We use the PW professional package with ocean currents included, and have found this excellent in crossing the North Indian Ocean from Thailand to Maldives. In particular it was spot on for ocean currents and pretty good on winds, and we run an update every day via the IridiumGo to ensure that we are always in the best possible currents and wind. Agree with the 80% ratio of the Amel 54 Polars. That has been what we ended up dialing it down to as well. At first I was annoyed that the Amel 54 appeared so much faster!!! ......but then realised this is based on best speed and sail plan always ...... and of course we are mere cruisers, sailing cautiously always to ensure our aging sails get us all the way around the world!. We are not sure we can afford the PW professional package cost all the way around the world, (and certainly turned it off in Asia for 6 months when not doing ocean crossings) but this software has been a game changer for us and particularly worthwhile the cost for the Indian Ocean crossing so far. From Maldives we sail this month for Chagos, then on to Rodriguez, Mauritius, Madagascar and down to Cape Town etc.., so are very please to have the full PW package working on board. Cheers Colin - Island Pearl II - SM#332 - Maldives
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:35 AM, 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Oceanair Skyscreen
Duane Siegfri
The aft cabin hatch is a bit tough because there is not much space above the hatch for the screen frame. The Oceanair frame is wider on the sides with the rollers so you want them vertical, and the narrower sides horizontal (at the top and bottom). After reviewing the Oceanair site, they don't have one that will fit the aft cabin. The Lewmar 50 is the right size, but the wider frame (2.5") will have to be at the top and bottom and there isn't room for it there. If you go with a 20x20 it will hang down 5.5" below the bottom of the hatch. They noted the Lewmar 60 would work for the main and forward cabins, and they recommended ordering them with seals. I pasted their email below. Duane Wanderer, SM#477 Thank you for your inquiry. The seal is a rubber “gasket” seal that runs between the hatch and the headliner to block out any light that might finds its way through this space. We usually recommend using a gasket.
Also looking at your order form if the measurements you have provided are for the aperture (the opening for the hatch) the first hatch would be a SRS-60-(Color (B) for beige or (W) for white)-RP. This is a standard size Skyscreen for a Lewmar 60 hatch.
The second size is very close in size to our SRS-50-(Color (B) for beige or (W) for white)-RP. This is the standard size for a Lewmar 50 hatch.
We could always have a hatch screen made to order to the exact size, but that would cost significantly
If the standard sizes work for you please place an order with one of our following online dealers who will be more than happy to help you place an order.
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Re: Oceanair Skyscreen
Duane Siegfri
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Re: lifting with mizzen boom, climbing mizzen, and halyard lengths
Duane Siegfri
Ryan,
One other thing I wanted to add: never use any hardware on the end of the halyard to attach yourself. Always tie a figure 8 knot that leaves a bight on the end of the line. You can leave the hardware on the bitter end, just down attach to it. Use a locking carabiner meant for climbing to attach the bight to your harness/bosuns chair. Using the hardware on the end of a halyard leaves too many failure points, the shackle, the knot attaching the shackle, and there may be wear in the line where the line bears on the shackle. Use a figure 8 tied in a bight instead. There are many videos on Youtube showing how to tie a figure 8 in a bight for climbing. Duane
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