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Re: Ballooner Halyard

Ian Park
 

Pat
I have a captive shackle on both ends. That’s how it was when I got the boat, although I have seen it in the recent pass that you only need the shackle on on end. The shackle retaining pin should fit neatly into the groove in the ballooner mouse and the other end also attaches to the same shackle, so that once the mouse clicks in (it needs a positive jerk to locate and lock it in - if you don’t the ballooner just finds its way back to the deck!) you can pull the shackle out of the groove and retrieve the halliard leaving the ballooner is free to furl if necessary.

You may want to use that halliard to hoist a dinghy on to the foredeck. If so you might want to make it long enough to hook on to the dinghy, go once round the larger mast winch and tail onto the rope drum of the windlass. This lets me manhandle the dinghy while Linda operates the windlass. It’s easier than winding it in by hand with the mast winch.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96 Jolly Harbour

PS if anyone needs to know, the water is back on in the dock and the quality is fine again.

Both ends though require a loop. I’ve just replaced mine and sewn and whipped a loop in each end.
The halliard is not under any great stress while hoisting and retrieving the ballooner


Re: Ballooner Halyard

greatketch@...
 

Pat,

Mine has a loop sliced on one end, and a key shackle spliced on the on the other.

The sliced loop is a bit too large to fit over the "hook" on the mouse so it has a secondary loop of small diameter spectra line that takes care of that.  The key shackle is hooked to the loop to work as the downhaul once the sail is latched.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Rock Sound, Eleuthera, Bahamas


Ballooner Halyard

Patrick McAneny
 

The previous owner apparently did not use the ballooner much and I have not either. I would like to replace the halyard for the ballooner and was wondering if I should have a eye spliced in one end ? How do you normally make it a continuous line , connecting the ends? Do you use the pin of a  shackle to slide in and out of the groove in the hooker? I have never been on another Amel to see how this is set up and executed . 

Thanks,

Pat SM#123


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The mistery slick

 

Very good point, Jeff.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 08:12 JEFFREY KRAUS jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Check your transmission oil.
You can lose transmission oil thru your transmission oil cooler, as the oil under pressure when running is leaked into the raw water running thru the cooler. The oil will appear as a slight slick as your cooling water is exits. Depending on the size of the hole, sea water can mix with the transmission oil when your engine is off, and the transmission oil is no longer under pressure turning it a bit milky.

Jeff S/V Spirit Amel 54 #14


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 06:38 AM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hello,

I'd like your opinion on this engine issue.

When we bought the boat in 2012, about every 30 seconds you could see a drop of oil come out from underwater, on the boat's exhaust.  Like a flower opening, you saw a dot which then became a small circle.  The engine had 2000 hrs.

The engine now has 3,525 hours.  Some people think the white smoke that comes out of it is normal, but I think it is a bit much.  But what worries me is that the oil in the water is not acceptable.  I am pretty sure the other boats don't do this.  Look at the attached photo, taken 5 minutes after the engine was turned off.  Zero oil on the port side, and zero oil around the surrounding boats.

Some stats from the last 58 hours of engine use (from eastern Crete to Hyères, with stops along the way, 1171 miles if we had motored in straight lines, but we obviously sailed most of the way):
 - fuel consumed: 310 liters (includes 6 hours of genset use at 3/4 load)
 - oil added: 1/2 of 1 quart

Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.  I've asked for a mechanic to come by to see the 100HP Yanmar.

Cheers,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)
Hyères


Re: The mistery slick

Duane Siegfri
 

I'll second Jeffrey's suggestion.  It's an inexpensive check to remove the transmission oil cooler, take it to a radiator shop and have it cleaned and pressure tested.  It's a maintenance item that should be done occasionally anyway.

We had to replace a transmission for this very reason.  The boat was showing oil in the water via the engine exhaust, and we were told it was probably an injector, no rush to repair.  Once a small pinhole develops in a cooling tube inside the cooler, you will lose transmission oil, and seawater will mix with what is returned to the transmission.  Whether your transmission oil is cloudy or not, I would have the cooler tested to eliminate it from the list of possibles.  It's a pretty inexpensive test.  One thing to consider, once the pinhole develops so begins corrosion in the transmission with exposure to seawater.  

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: The mistery slick

Duane Siegfri
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The mistery slick

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick

eric freedman
 

I had a similar problem when I first received Kimberlite in 2002.

For whatever reason Yanmar USA, tracked the problem down to  a defective turbo. I have no further problems since they swapped out the turbo under warrantee,

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 2:02 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick

 

 

Thank you Ian and Bill.

The injector nozzles on all 4 cylinders were replaced with new 125 hours ago, as were the racor filters and the fuel filter.  Today the racor filters and their "bubble" look pristine.

I am pretty sure what we see in the water is fuel.  Since the water here is so clean and still, this afternoon I ran an experiment as suggested by Gary of Adagio: take diesel-absorbing pads and check if they absorb the slick.  They do.

Maybe we are down to low cylinder compression in one or more of them, for whatever reason, or maybe we have a bad injector.

Best,


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick

 

Bill and Fernando,

And, low compression could be caused by valves out of adjustment.

Assuming the AutoProp is clean and properly working, I would adjust the valves, then perform a compression test. If compression is within specs, I would have the almost new injectors tested. 

Use the following guide if the above doesn't solve the issue.

Reasons for fuel in the water in order of likelihood:
The engine is overrevved especially under load...this is normal to see diesel in the water.
The AutoProp is fouled or needs new bearings
Valves need adjusting 
Injector nozzels need replacing
Other injector problems
Fuel injection pump creating too much fuel pressure
Shaft brake is not working correctly
Valves are worn and engine needs a topend rebuild. 
The C-Drive or Transmission has something creating a load on the engine.
Something else is creating a load on the engine.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 18:21 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Actually, ANY reason for low compression in one or more cylinders could be a possible cause of unburned fuel exiting with the exhaust...




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick

greatketch@...
 

Actually, ANY reason for low compression in one or more cylinders could be a possible cause of unburned fuel exiting with the exhaust...



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick

 

Or, maybe your cylinder head valves need adjusting.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 4:02 PM, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Ian and Bill.

The injector nozzles on all 4 cylinders were replaced with new 125 hours ago, as were the racor filters and the fuel filter.  Today the racor filters and their "bubble" look pristine.

I am pretty sure what we see in the water is fuel.  Since the water here is so clean and still, this afternoon I ran an experiment as suggested by Gary of Adagio: take diesel-absorbing pads and check if they absorb the slick.  They do.

Maybe we are down to low cylinder compression in one or more of them, for whatever reason, or maybe we have a bad injector.

Best,



Re: The mistery slick

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Thank you Ian and Bill.

The injector nozzles on all 4 cylinders were replaced with new 125 hours ago, as were the racor filters and the fuel filter.  Today the racor filters and their "bubble" look pristine.

I am pretty sure what we see in the water is fuel.  Since the water here is so clean and still, this afternoon I ran an experiment as suggested by Gary of Adagio: take diesel-absorbing pads and check if they absorb the slick.  They do.

Maybe we are down to low cylinder compression in one or more of them, for whatever reason, or maybe we have a bad injector.

Best,


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

James Studdart
 

Hi,
I suppose it could be the timed circuit breaker in the shore/gen change over box is not it working well/on its way out. I’m not sure how those components fail, but if the timing is consistent (but lengthening) then that would be my first suspicion.

Cheers,
James.
SeaBean SM344
Raiatea, FP

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 06:04 Heinz Stutenbäumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill

Thank you for your reply.

My green lamp works very well.

Even with a measuring device at the socket I cannot determine that 220V are produced in the first 5 minutes. Or is it the case that if the green lamp is not lit, the power is not transmitted.

This would mean it works if I remove the green lamp?

 

Fair winds Heinz

SM 2000 292 Quetzal

 

Von: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2018 10:19
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

 

 

It is very common for this light to fail. In fact I believe it would be unusual to find an original green AC light working on a SM. The light has a life of about 6-8 years. 

 

Rather than replacing the bulb, you should add a digital Volt/Amp/Hertz meter. This meter will ensure shore power delivery and help you to NOT overload shore power, or the generator.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 11:30 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all

I have an onan generator on my SM 2000 that also works very well.
Since a few weeks I have the problem that the display for 220 V only lights up after the generator has been running for 5 to 10 minutes.
I have the feeling that this period of time is getting longer and longer.
Does anyone know this problem and does anyone know an answer?
I'd be grateful for any clues.

Fair Winds
Heinz Stutenbäumer,SM2000, 292, SV QUETZAL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hi Bill

Thank you for your reply.

My green lamp works very well.

Even with a measuring device at the socket I cannot determine that 220V are produced in the first 5 minutes. Or is it the case that if the green lamp is not lit, the power is not transmitted.

This would mean it works if I remove the green lamp?

 

Fair winds Heinz

SM 2000 292 Quetzal

 

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2018 10:19
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

 

 

It is very common for this light to fail. In fact I believe it would be unusual to find an original green AC light working on a SM. The light has a life of about 6-8 years. 

 

Rather than replacing the bulb, you should add a digital Volt/Amp/Hertz meter. This meter will ensure shore power delivery and help you to NOT overload shore power, or the generator.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 11:30 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all

I have an onan generator on my SM 2000 that also works very well.
Since a few weeks I have the problem that the display for 220 V only lights up after the generator has been running for 5 to 10 minutes.
I have the feeling that this period of time is getting longer and longer.
Does anyone know this problem and does anyone know an answer?
I'd be grateful for any clues.

Fair Winds
Heinz Stutenbäumer,SM2000, 292, SV QUETZAL


Re: The mistery slick

greatketch@...
 

If you were looking at motor oil in the exhaust you would see a fairly rapid loss of oil level in the crankcase, and likely a LOT of smoke. 

I'll second Ian's suggestion that what you are seeing is actually diesel fuel.  You mention a bit of smoke also, and that would back up that suggestion.  One (or more!) injectors are either sticking open, or have a bad spray pattern and the fuel is not fully burning.  If this is happening a LOT you can actually see an increase in the level of oil in the crankcase as it gets diluted with diesel fuel.  This would be VERY bad.

You might be able to narrow it down to which cylinder by cracking the nut holding the fuel line to each injector in turn while the engine is idling.  When you open the fuel line to a "good" cylinder, the engine will slow and run rougher.  A "bad" cylinder will show little or no change.  It could be more than one.  Injectors can be damaged by dirt, or water in the fuel, so there could be a common cause.

This is important to get fixed.  When a cylinder wall is wet with unburned diesel fuel the lubricating oil is washed off, and wear is greatly accelerated.  Cleaning/Testing/Repairing/Rebuilding injectors can be done, but it is rather specialized work requiring high precision tools and expensive test beds to do correctly.  Not the job for the island mechanic, even if he thinks he can.  

If you do replace them with new, save the old and have them rebuilt by a specialist shop when you can.  Spare injectors are not a bad thing to have!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Rock Sound, Eleuthera, Bahamas

---In amelyachtowners@..., <parkianj@...> wrote :

When I had the engine mounts replaced and other work done on the engine in Martinique, the Amel engineer started it and told me I would either need to clean the injectors or preferably put in new ones (but not out here! They’re too expensive. Get them in Europe). Reason = he said look at the exhaust, there are traces of diesel coming out with the water - dirty injectors.

It would be worth verifying this, either from other owners with more experience or an engineer. My Perkins has done 5,500 miles now.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96 Antigua.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Oman Generator

 

It is very common for this light to fail. In fact I believe it would be unusual to find an original green AC light working on a SM. The light has a life of about 6-8 years. 

Rather than replacing the bulb, you should add a digital Volt/Amp/Hertz meter. This meter will ensure shore power delivery and help you to NOT overload shore power, or the generator.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 11:30 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello all

I have an onan generator on my SM 2000 that also works very well.
Since a few weeks I have the problem that the display for 220 V only lights up after the generator has been running for 5 to 10 minutes.
I have the feeling that this period of time is getting longer and longer.
Does anyone know this problem and does anyone know an answer?
I'd be grateful for any clues.

Fair Winds
Heinz Stutenbäumer,SM2000, 292, SV QUETZAL


Oman Generator

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hello all

I have an onan generator on my SM 2000 that also works very well.
Since a few weeks I have the problem that the display for 220 V only lights up after the generator has been running for 5 to 10 minutes.
I have the feeling that this period of time is getting longer and longer.
Does anyone know this problem and does anyone know an answer?
I'd be grateful for any clues.

Fair Winds
Heinz Stutenbäumer,SM2000, 292, SV QUETZAL


Re: The mistery slick

Ian Park
 

When I had the engine mounts replaced and other work done on the engine in Martinique, the Amel engineer started it and told me I would either need to clean the injectors or preferably put in new ones (but not out here! They’re too expensive. Get them in Europe). Reason = he said look at the exhaust, there are traces of diesel coming out with the water - dirty injectors.

It would be worth verifying this, either from other owners with more experience or an engineer. My Perkins has done 5,500 miles now.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96 Antigua.


The mistery slick

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello,

I'd like your opinion on this engine issue.

When we bought the boat in 2012, about every 30 seconds you could see a drop of oil come out from underwater, on the boat's exhaust.  Like a flower opening, you saw a dot which then became a small circle.  The engine had 2000 hrs.

The engine now has 3,525 hours.  Some people think the white smoke that comes out of it is normal, but I think it is a bit much.  But what worries me is that the oil in the water is not acceptable.  I am pretty sure the other boats don't do this.  Look at the attached photo, taken 5 minutes after the engine was turned off.  Zero oil on the port side, and zero oil around the surrounding boats.

Some stats from the last 58 hours of engine use (from eastern Crete to Hyères, with stops along the way, 1171 miles if we had motored in straight lines, but we obviously sailed most of the way):
 - fuel consumed: 310 liters (includes 6 hours of genset use at 3/4 load)
 - oil added: 1/2 of 1 quart

Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.  I've asked for a mechanic to come by to see the 100HP Yanmar.

Cheers,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)
Hyères


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Transport of SM from Australia to Suez/Turkey

Donato Valente
 

Many thanks Mark.
I'm in touch with them.
Regards
Donato 

SM #468 Ocean Bird
Raiatea FP


On 19 April 2018 at 17:23, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I second SevenStar.  I have not used their services but I did get a quote from them last year for moving a SM from Europe to the USA.  It was competitive with some of the other quotes I got but they were by far the most helpful and responsive.  I was given their name from Bill Rouse from BeBe.  He used them back in 2011 and was very pleased with them.  You can read his blog post about it here:  http://svbebe.blogspot.com/search?q=sevenstar


As a bonus, they are familiar with Amels and are willing and able to use the deck level lifting eyes on the SM which will make the process much simpler to prepare the boat for transport.  My contact was Jan Maarten: jmb at sevenstar-yacht-transport.com

Mark
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
 




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