Re: Jib car removal
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Chris: I posted a picture here https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1845658937/lightbox/1742109589?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/1742109589
Showing the modification I made to the jib sheet car track to allow removal of the car. Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona
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Re: Jib car removal
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Chris:
I just undertook removal of my jib sheet cars on my SM 2000 #335 for two reasons. 1. one of the plastic sliders was broken on the port side and 2. there was hurricane damage to the toe-rail on the starboard side. In my opinion, Amel made an error in extending the track too far aft. You never need the car back that far and even if you are able to remove the "stopper" bolt that is about 6 inches from the end of the track, the car will not come off the track as it hits the chainplate/lifting ring. I was able to remove both of the bolts on my tracks, but then was still unable to remove the cars due to that interference. So, I used an angle grinder and very carefully cut the top of the "T" of the track on both sides of the vertical member for a distance of the length of the jib sheet car. I radiuses the forward ends of the cut and dressed and filed the track for a finished look.. Now removal of the car is accomplished by removing the "stopper" bolt then sliding the car to the narrowed area of track and lifting upward. I hope that makes sense. It was a tedious project and I recommend placing protection of the fiberglass and areas of track you don't want to damage as slips with the angle grinder are bound to happen. Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 #335 In repairs at Island Marine, Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Victron Auto Isolation Transformer
Bill I have one of these on board, the 3600w Victron Islolation transformer version on your data sheet, but the version with physical jumpers to move internally to select between 110v/220v input. To be honest, it has been on board for over a year and I have yet to install it, as we have been at anchor mostly and it will really become most usefull to me when we reach the east coast of USA where I may leave the boat in a marina for a few months. The 3600w version is pretty heavy and I've been trying to find a suitable position for it. My current plan is to bolt it on the shelf up behind the Onan generator, bolted through the fwd wall of the life raft (200L spare diesel in my case in jerry cans) locker as that is close to the shore power input cable box. My only issue is that I already have so much weight on that side as I often have the spare fuel full at present crossing so many oceans. Also, I have not yet worked out how to best connect it into that special Amel shore power junction box........waiting for someone smarter with electronics (like you!) to do it first so I can copy you. I never just let any marine electrician loose on Island Pearl until I am sure that the Amel Guru's on this site have already pioneered connections in the correct "AMEL" way. After seeing my unit (and trying to purchase it off me...which I refused) a good cruising friend in Malaysia purchased and installed the exact same unit on his boat. He has been extremely satisfied with it since. Very keen to follow this thread and see where and how you connect it Bill. These are the most solid and robust isolation transformers you can purchase with the added advantage of a very heavy duty 110/220v transformer you can trust, however from what I have been advised, it is better to go with the 3600w instead of the 2000w Best regards Colin Streeter SV Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332 Gan, Addu Atoll, Maldives (leaving for Chagos this next week)
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:03 PM, john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Jib car removal
rettirc@...
Greetings Amelians, I have searched old messages and cannot find how to remove the jib cars. I need to replace the plastic sliders. Car forward, runs into the lifeline upright and aft it runs into the chain plate where jib sheet block is located. I am having trouble undoing screws holding down track. I am thinking of getting an impact screw driver. Thanks in advance. Chris Shiels "Jaygo". SM224
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick
James Alton
Hyères, The quickly oil resoaked air filter is also making me think that engine oil could be causing the oil spots on the water. A simple test to check to see if the engine oil is coming up from the tube that vents the crankcase is to decouple the tube from the intake, place it in a bucket and run the engine briefly and see if you have oil spatters in the bucket. If you have a lot of blow by from the crankcase you will also see what looks like exhaust coming from the tube, which hopefully will not be the case since that may mean that you have more serious problems. I am not familiar with the exact crankcase ventilation system on your engine but most systems also incorporate a drain back systemso that much of the oil blown into the engine intake from the crankcase ventilation system can drain back to the crankcase. If the drain back system is not not functioning properly, oil can pool in the intake system and be drawn into the engine. It sounds like you have been pretty meticulous with your engine maintenance so hopefully this turns out to be something simple. Best of luck, James SV Sueño Maramu #220
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Strange 24DC leakage
Sv Garulfo
Hi everyone, So we traced the leak back to the bow thruster. Not sure yet what is wong with it. Chances are some carbon dust from the brushes creates the negative-grounding connection. We built another leak detector with a LED bulb and 2 wires to second the amel detector. We plug one end on the grounding and the other end to the positive of the 24V battery bank. A leak on the negative circuit would light the bulb. We found it's more sensitive than our amel built detector and would show a dim light even when the amel detector wouldn't light (to the naked eye). That may show our amel detector isn't 100% working order. I'll troubleshoot that next. One aspect of the issue we are still a bit confused about: Despite disconnecting the big cable that connects the battery bank to the front locker where the bow thruster (and others components like the windlass, etc) are, we would still see a strong leak. We had to disconnect another cable that goes in the engine room to remove the leak altogether. There we thought we had 2 sources of strong leaks.... We failed to trace the ER leak (while forelocker cable disconnected from the battery bank's end), so we concentrated on the forelocker one (while ER cable disconnected). When we eventually disconnected the bow thruster from its end and reconnected everything else from their end in the forelocker, we could see only a very dim leak (and undetected by the amel detector). We then reconnected the ER cable, expecting to see and diagnose the second strong leak, but it was gone... So is it possible that the ER cable was showing the bow thruster leak despite the main forelocker cable being disconnected? If yes (and it seems to be the case) then the methodology of disconnecting all-but-one cable from the batteries is somewhat flawed... The ER cable lead was a going roundabout. On a positive note, we now have a better handle on the cable soup (tidy, but opaque) in the ER. Bring on the labelling machine! TBC Fair winds, Thomas GARULFO Amel 54 #122 Saint Martin, FWI
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Re: Volvos.......
greatketch@...
Ian,
Will the engine run at 2800 rpm unloaded (in netural)? If NOT, the answer is not fuel starvation (because that would take very little fuel) but a possible problem with the injection pump or speed governor. If YES, then... I am not sure... Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Somewhere around Eleuthera, Bahamas
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low Revs.........
Porter McRoberts
Get 12 buds. And your uncle.
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Then make sure you have the “paid professional” on back up. I don’t have a SM but 2800 seems in the ball park. Yes? See you in Bonaire!! Porter McRoberts Ibis 54-152. Monserrat.
On Apr 26, 2018, at 9:56 AM, thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
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Re: Low Revs.........
greatketch@...
Changing injectors isn't tough, just be as fanatically clean about it as you can. It's only a little bit harder than changing spark plugs, and mostly because you will need to bleed the fuel lines after the replacement.
I have never done it on a Yanmar, but a I have a story that might have relevance... On my old boat I had a 40 year old BMC diesel with standard Bosch injectors. The service manual described in detail how to pull the injectors using the special tool, that of course was no longer available. I approached the task with much wimpering (as you uncle would say!). After removing the two nuts that secured each injector and disconnecting the fuel header, I puzzled over how to jury rig a pulling tool to get them out. After much head scratching and fussing I tried an experiment using tools I already had... Each one come out using two fingers... Sometimes, things are as easy as we wish they always were! Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Somewhere around Eleuthera, Bahamas
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick
greatketch@...
Yes! Do check the transmission cooler. It's cheap and easy.
But the quickly oiling of the airfilter makes me wonder if you might have more than normal combustion gas blowing past the rings into the crankcase, carrying oil mist through its normal vent into the intake. Hence the mechanic's suggestion for a compression test. It sounds like the mechanic you had look at the engine knew his stuff. Here's hoping you have a simple problem we just can't think of yet! Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Somewhere around Eleuthera, Bahamas
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Ballooner Halyard
greatketch@...
I have no trouble with that on my boat.
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It's the same with the main sail halyard. It needs a spliced loop on the down side to hook on the locking car. The only place it tends to hang up a little bit when hoisting the sail is right when the spliced eye is coming out of the cut out in the mast. Just a bit of wiggling, and it puts right through. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Somewhere around Eleuthera, Bahamas ---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailw32@...> wrote : Bill, I take it from what you wrote, that a halyard with an eye spliced in can pass up the mast and over the forward sheave ,in which case I will have an eye put in on both ends of the new halyard. Thanks, Pat SM#123
-----Original Message----- From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2018 10:59 am Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Ballooner Halyard Pat, Mine has a loop sliced on one end, and a key shackle spliced on the on the other. The sliced loop is a bit too large to fit over the "hook" on the mouse so it has a secondary loop of small diameter spectra line that takes care of that. The key shackle is hooked to the loop to work as the downhaul once the sail is latched. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Rock Sound, Eleuthera, Bahamas
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Re: Victron Auto Isolation Transformer
John Clark
Porter. (and Bill) forgive me if I am jumping in at the wrong point.
Porter the transformer is for regulating shore power onto the boat. It gives one the option to use different voltage inputs on the SP cable and get 220/230v supplied to the boat's AC distribution panel. Charging the battery is a different matter. Porter, I installed the MagnaSine 4124 inverter-charger over Christmas (2017) and have had good experience with it so far. I corresponded a lot with Bill Kinney during the installation trying to make sure I did not foul up the Amel bonding set up. I think we worked through it OK. The unit is wired between the auto transfer switch (the one that selects the generator or shore power for AC) and acts as a charger if AC is present upstream (from SP or the genset,) or as an inverter if there is no other source of AC. I set it up to be the "whole house" inverter so it supplies the main AC distribution panel. We routinely run the microwave, vacuum, food processor...etc from the battery. I paid about $1900 USD for the unit plus the remote control unit, which you will need. As a charger it supplies 63 amps to the battery at the start and ramps down as the battery voltage comes up. It is programmable so you can set it to which ever battery type you have. We have AGMs and it does the absorb phase at 28.6V then floats at 26.5V We run in it in parallel with a 40A charger to speed things along at the start. I installed the unit in the engine room forward port side. It has internal cooling fans, and internal temperature sensors to shut it down if it gets too hot. It seems to be happy there so far. If you have a charger that is becoming unreliable I definitely recommend getting a new charger while you are near good shipping points. We now have three chargers, in addition to the solar, engine alternator, and shaft alternator. Can't have too much. See you soon, John and Colleen SV Annie SM 37 St Thomas, USVI
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Victron Auto Isolation Transformer
greatketch@...
Porter,
We haven't pulled the trigger on the transformer yet, as long as we are not connected to shore power, it isn't really a priority. I am a little confused by your question however, this is not a battery charger, and would not be a replacement for one.. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Somewhere around Eleuthera, Bahamas ---In amelyachtowners@..., <portermcroberts@...> wrote : Bill This looks excellent. Our 100amp Charger seems to be on the blink. Could this be a reasonable replacement? Seems so. Did you end up getting one? How was the install? I used victron for our solar and it is simply amazing. Cool with the Bluetooth dongle. Many thanks Porter S/V Ibis 54-152
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sealant for dodger windows?
Ryan Meador
I see Permatex makes a clear RTV silicone, I think I'll go with that one. I like the idea of it being easily removable. If it fails, it will be an easy job to replace. I'm not concerned about the color (even though this one is clear) because I've painted the edges of the new dodger glass just like the original, so the sealant will be out of sight. Thanks for the advice! Ryan
SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:25 AM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Wind or Water generator
John Clark
Hi Ian,
sorry I am a little late in responding. We have been underway and with patchy internet. We have the fixed prop(autoprop as a spare, set up preferred by previous owner which I have not felt compelled to change) and will generate useful power starting between 4-5kts. At hull speed, say 7.5-9.0 kts the alternator produces more power than we can use. The regulator is set to 27.5 volts and will float the batteries at that voltage. I don't have an ammeter on the alternator output, but If the battery needs charge the highest I have seen gling in is 15 amps. This of course would be in addition to running loads which vary. We have one bench freezer, the galley frig and a portable 24V chest frig. Underway we have a Raymarine Es78 chart plotter, Furuno 1623 radar, VHF and AIS running at all times. Oh and the Igloo Ice Maker! Regards, John SV Annie SM 37 Charlotte Amalie, St Thomas USVI
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos.......
Hi Ian, Do you have an AutoProp? My understanding is that they are ver persnickety about growth. I'd take PenAzen out for another trial and if all is OK, I'd probably opt for "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I understand there is a wire mesh filter in the tank at the outflow. I don't know how to get to it, but if it is clogged you may have a fuel starvation there, which could be intermittent as fuel sloshes around. Do you have a pressure gauge in the supply line? Kristy has a dual racor setup with a gauge. If there is a blockage in supply line it should read negative pressure. Not a mechanic, but that's the first two things that come to mind. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM 243 Heading for St Michaels, MD for the Summer.
On Apr 26, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi All,
I thought this subject had been reviewed so many times that there was nothing else to know. However.....
Last year our 78hp Volvo was partially rebuilt by the Volvo agent in Hyeres. Not a happy experience, but we did end up with an engine performing as it should. With a clean bottom and prop the rev counter went up to 2800 with a top speed in calm water of about 8.4k, much the same as when the boat was launched 18 years ago. We are pretty rigorous about opening the throttle to max every 12 hours or so.
We put about 290 hours on the engine and then left the boat ashore till this month. I changed the oil and fuel filters. We have twin Racors before fuel reaches the engine.
Having launched, with a spotless bottom and Autoprop, we motored for about 12 hours at no more than 1900 revs. Performance was perfect- up to 7.1k at 1800. I then opened the throttle but with the lever full ahead the revs would not exceed 2100. At 2000 revs we do 7.3k and at 2100 7.7k, what I would expect. But nothing above 2100.
More than that, on four occasions when I have tried full throttle the revs have fallen back suddenly to about 1500, on one occasion stopping the engine.
I should mention that the refit included a new turbo , injectors and exhaust elbow and the fuel pump was sent off to Bosch who confirmed that it was fine
Diving on the prop shows that it is still spotless.
My thoughts are that there must be a fuel shortage when I open the throttle; that there is sufficient flow up to 2100 for the engine to perform correctly but above that there is fuel starvation. I have changed both the engine and the Racor filters again, in case some fuel bug had grown over the winter and blocked them. The ones I took off were spotless and the fuel they contained was also spotless.
Anyone got any thoughts ?
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Korfos, Greece
My thoug
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The mistery slick
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
Thank you Jeff.
Will have the transmission cooler tested. Regards, Peregrinus SM2K N. 350 (2002) Hyères
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos.......
Hi,
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I had a similar problem on my Amel 54 with Volvo 110hp turbo. Thought it was the turbo but it turned out to be the sensor which measures turbo boost pressure. It is located on starboard side on the Volvo and 5 minute job to change but expensive part 350 euros. Problem solved. I had to get a Volvo technician to diagnose the fault with his computer though as I was unable to diagnose the problem. Do you have an EVC computer thing giving boost pressure? If that is stuck the EVC will limit the rpm. Sometimes these modern engines can be too clever! You could also check the turbo is sucking and the little arm goes back and forward. If it is stuck just work it with some WD40. If the boost pressure does not come up then I think it is the sensor. Can you get 2800 in neutral? When I had my problem i could get 2800 in neutral but not under load. Nick
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Low Revs.........
Hi,
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I suggest you get an injector puller. Not sure on your set up but if the injectors do not thread in but are clamped in then the puller is a rod of steel with a nut welded to one end that threads onto the injector. The rod has a weight on it that slides up and down the rod with a stop welded to the top. The idea is that you thread this device on and whack up the weight to the end stop and pull the injector. This will make sure the injector is not damaged when you pull .it. Armed with the puller easy peasy to pull an injector. Just make sure everything is clean and put the injector directly into a ziplock, one for each injector. Cleanliness is next to Godliness! Nick Amelia Amel 54
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Volvos.......
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi All,
I thought this subject had been reviewed so many times that there was nothing else to know. However.....
Last year our 78hp Volvo was partially rebuilt by the Volvo agent in Hyeres. Not a happy experience, but we did end up with an engine performing as it should. With a clean bottom and prop the rev counter went up to 2800 with a top speed in calm water of about 8.4k, much the same as when the boat was launched 18 years ago. We are pretty rigorous about opening the throttle to max every 12 hours or so.
We put about 290 hours on the engine and then left the boat ashore till this month. I changed the oil and fuel filters. We have twin Racors before fuel reaches the engine.
Having launched, with a spotless bottom and Autoprop, we motored for about 12 hours at no more than 1900 revs. Performance was perfect- up to 7.1k at 1800. I then opened the throttle but with the lever full ahead the revs would not exceed 2100. At 2000 revs we do 7.3k and at 2100 7.7k, what I would expect. But nothing above 2100.
More than that, on four occasions when I have tried full throttle the revs have fallen back suddenly to about 1500, on one occasion stopping the engine.
I should mention that the refit included a new turbo , injectors and exhaust elbow and the fuel pump was sent off to Bosch who confirmed that it was fine
Diving on the prop shows that it is still spotless.
My thoughts are that there must be a fuel shortage when I open the throttle; that there is sufficient flow up to 2100 for the engine to perform correctly but above that there is fuel starvation. I have changed both the engine and the Racor filters again, in case some fuel bug had grown over the winter and blocked them. The ones I took off were spotless and the fuel they contained was also spotless.
Anyone got any thoughts ?
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Korfos, Greece
My thoug
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