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Re: Slowing down in increasing winds

greatketch@...
 

David,

When it comes to heavy weather tactics, my first rule is to take no advice from anyone who hasn't been there and done that, preferably on a boat very similar to mine.

I think you you'll get some awesome advice here from people who have spent time in weather way, way rougher than I ever want to...

As the wind picks up, I just reef deeper and deeper.  Maybe it comes from sailing in San Francisco for so long, but strong winds never really worried me.  It was always just the size of the waves that drove my concerns.  35 knots? No problem... just keep sailing!

Eventually, waves get so big that making progress in any direction except downwind gets dangerous.  Once you start to lose control of the the boat as it surfs down big waves, or the waves start to break in ways that are dangerous, it is time to go straight to the series drogue.  There are people here who have been there, done that, and know of what they speak.

My opinion:  Skip all the old fashioned ideas of dragging warps with fenders, anchors, tires, etc, etc.  Those are tactics from 75 years ago, suited for boats of that vintage.  When I have talked to people who have actually tried such things in modern boats in conditions that were really serious, they were always way less than impressed with the result.

My experience runs up to 45 knots for days crossing the North Pacific on a boat significantly smaller than a SM, although similar is general design.  Deeply reefed jib, and reefed mizzen, furled main, and the boat did fine.  One you get used to it, it is a wild ride :)  I always reefed based on boat speed.  Keeping the boat under control was the key.

So many of the storm tactics you read about are based on the premise of having a large crew who can hand steer for hours and hours.  Having a way of "stopping" when the boat gets out of control, like a series drogue, is the key to cruising safety in big weather.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Governors Harbour, Eleuthera, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

Ian Park
 

David
An interesting question to which I can’t give answers. I’ve sailed our Santorin in f7 to f9, but never upwind. Even with the smaller Santorin she never gets moving properly until f5. My previous boat (Jeaneau 37 would have hade reefs in). In Caribbean inter island crossings this year we have had some very gusty winds. After being hit by a squall of 45 knots the boat (with all sails set!) lay over until the water was just over the side decks, and despite the efforts of the engaged autopilot turned nicely upwind and recovered herself.
I then took Linda’s “I warned you!” Advice and dumped the mainsail.

The point of all this ramble is we don’t have a production line boat. We also are blessed with a ketch. I would welcome others experience on this one. I do feel the lower overall sail height of the ketch, the ability to lose the main and stay in balance and then to start to reef the ‘jib and jigger’ added to the immensely strong Amel construction means our solutions won’t match the majority of cruising boats.

More comments please - we’re setting off back across the Atlantic to UK in a few weeks time so I’m watching this one closely,

Thanks David,

Ian  ’Ocean Hobo’ SN96


On 1 May 2018, at 16:50, David Vogel dbv_au@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

The greatest winds we have experienced on PERIGEE have been 35 knots sustained, gusting 42, estimated 6 meter seas, all on the beam.  Even with fully reefed sails, it was a strong ride, but not uncomfortable.  It never got to the stage of thinking to go to bare poles.

But it did raise the question about how, and when, to slow down.

We carry some old 5/8ths hauling line with about 3 meters of chain, plus an old tyre, to add drag if needed.  And a Jordan Series Drogue for if things get really tough.

I have heard suggestions from other cruisers to run out line with fenders attached every 10 or so meters, with chain or an anchor at the end.  For example, at 35kts, drop the chain/anchor overboard and run out 10-15 meters of line, then attach a fender, and then run out  another 10-15 metes of line.  At 40knots, add another fender, and run out some more line.  At 45knots, heave-to.  I do not wish to be cavalier, but these wind-speeds seem a little low for a Super Maramu as, based on my experience, our boats can handle these conditions with relish.

What are your reefing points, heavy weather plans or storm tactics?  I'd be interested to hear from those with experience.  And also, at what wind-speed or sea-state would you call for the JSD, or other big-drag-device?

Thanks in anticipation of your responses.

David
Perigee, SM#396
SXM


Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Hi there,
Just arrived in Funchal, Madeira, after 27 days crossing, beating most of the time, & rerouted from original destination Horta, due to  stormy conditipns SW of Azores on the 16-17/04.
Headed East in 45 kn winds, gusting 50+, & 7 M waves (weather report confimed) with period 11" crossed.
Mainsail down to 3rd reef, mizzen down to 2nd, genoa rolled down to 1/4, then replaced by 17sqm jib (heavy, stiff), beating all the way during 28 hrs at 60° off the wind.
Speed over ground 7 to 9 kn in wildest gusts.
Our Big Mama of a Maramu (only 46 ft) took it quietly, rudder kept soft & easy to handle as long as we kept the speed; worst was when luffing (change of helmsman).
We then had a good 8 days beating in 35-40 kn winds (increasing to 40 at night).
Never would have gone for escaping by running downwind, even though close to the decision if the sea had been rougher, then planned on furling the main & running with mizzen 2 reefs + 17sqm jib on a pole at 130° - 150° off the wind, depending on waves conditions.
Read Adlard Coles, heard the stories, shared experience & still believe that our boats are so rigid that they can handle the speed & keep going in rough conditions.
Heave to would be my way out in super heavy cpnditions.
Otherwise, weathe reports & barometer, & an eye for clouds formations give a good warning to choose escape routes.

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - maramu 116 - Nova marina Funchal


Le mar., mai 1, 2018 à 21:50, David Vogel dbv_au@... [amelyachtowners]
a écrit :
 

Hi all,

The greatest winds we have experienced on PERIGEE have been 35 knots sustained, gusting 42, estimated 6 meter seas, all on the beam.  Even with fully reefed sails, it was a strong ride, but not uncomfortable.  It never got to the stage of thinking to go to bare poles.

But it did raise the question about how, and when, to slow down.

We carry some old 5/8ths hauling line with about 3 meters of chain, plus an old tyre, to add drag if needed.  And a Jordan Series Drogue for if things get really tough.

I have heard suggestions from other cruisers to run out line with fenders attached every 10 or so meters, with chain or an anchor at the end.  For example, at 35kts, drop the chain/anchor overboard and run out 10-15 meters of line, then attach a fender, and then run out  another 10-15 metes of line.  At 40knots, add another fender, and run out some more line.  At 45knots, heave-to.  I do not wish to be cavalier, but these wind-speeds seem a little low for a Super Maramu as, based on my experience, our boats can handle these conditions with relish.

What are your reefing points, heavy weather plans or storm tactics?  I'd be interested to hear from those with experience.  And also, at what wind-speed or sea-state would you call for the JSD, or other big-drag-device?

Thanks in anticipation of your responses.

David
Perigee, SM#396
SXM


Slowing down in increasing winds

SV Perigee
 

Hi all,

The greatest winds we have experienced on PERIGEE have been 35 knots sustained, gusting 42, estimated 6 meter seas, all on the beam.  Even with fully reefed sails, it was a strong ride, but not uncomfortable.  It never got to the stage of thinking to go to bare poles.

But it did raise the question about how, and when, to slow down.

We carry some old 5/8ths hauling line with about 3 meters of chain, plus an old tyre, to add drag if needed.  And a Jordan Series Drogue for if things get really tough.

I have heard suggestions from other cruisers to run out line with fenders attached every 10 or so meters, with chain or an anchor at the end.  For example, at 35kts, drop the chain/anchor overboard and run out 10-15 meters of line, then attach a fender, and then run out  another 10-15 metes of line.  At 40knots, add another fender, and run out some more line.  At 45knots, heave-to.  I do not wish to be cavalier, but these wind-speeds seem a little low for a Super Maramu as, based on my experience, our boats can handle these conditions with relish.

What are your reefing points, heavy weather plans or storm tactics?  I'd be interested to hear from those with experience.  And also, at what wind-speed or sea-state would you call for the JSD, or other big-drag-device?

Thanks in anticipation of your responses.

David
Perigee, SM#396
SXM


Re: Guessing Game

greatketch@...
 

I don't know if we could win any awards... 

but for hoisting the dinghy to deck to store for passage, we use the mizzen balloonor halyard.  The dinghy is then deflated, folded, and put in its bag on the aftdeck.  If we are undertaking a longer passage, we'll drop it in the aft deck locker.  We have a standard commercial sling for the dinghy, and for lifting our 2-stoke 15HP outboard as well.

If lifting it out of the water for security at anchor we use the main mast balloonor halyard, just because it is more out of the way.

But our dinghy is not among the heaviest you'll find: complete with engine about 100kg

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Governors Harbour, Eleuthera, Bahamas

---In amelyachtowners@..., <scentstone@...> wrote :

Thank you Craig, Olivier and Ian
I was used to run the starboard mizzen halyard in the starboard open pulley and I was questioning about the reason for the second ! 
Using this system will offer more stability and length to the halyard ;-)

While we're at this, is there some smartness at lifting up the dinghy ? I've of course a "spider" sling attached to the dinghy's floor but I was always hesitant to use the balooner halyard because it's a lot of effort applied to the top mast pulley (and it's also used to climb it) but I've seen many SM with very heavy dinghy and engine hung on starboard side for night… 

Thanks again to the winners
F.


Re: Guessing Game

scentstone
 

Thank you Craig, Olivier and Ian
I was used to run the starboard mizzen halyard in the starboard open pulley and I was questioning about the reason for the second ! 
Using this system will offer more stability and length to the halyard ;-)

While we're at this, is there some smartness at lifting up the dinghy ? I've of course a "spider" sling attached to the dinghy's floor but I was always hesitant to use the balooner halyard because it's a lot of effort applied to the top mast pulley (and it's also used to climb it) but I've seen many SM with very heavy dinghy and engine hung on starboard side for night… 

Thanks again to the winners
F.


Re: Bow thruster parts

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Stephanie,
Check out Al Meekens at gearsmade.com - phone 856 858-6421. 
I haven't used him but his website is appealing - looks like he's a retired Coast Guardsman who was a machinist and now keeps busy in retirement making replacement gears.  Worth a chat at least.
Cheers,
Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris - Ft Pierce, FL

---In amelyachtowners@..., <stephiedib@...> wrote :

Our bower thruster lower gears are stripped! Can anyone recommend a supplier in the US?
Many thanks,
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM 2000 Indecent
Palm Beach Gardens, FL


Bow thruster parts

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Our bower thruster lower gears are stripped! Can anyone recommend a supplier in the US?
Many thanks,
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM 2000 Indecent
Palm Beach Gardens, FL


Re: Steaming/Deck light Replacement

SV Perigee
 

Greetings,

Apols for the delay - been off-forum.

I replaced the original Steaming/Downlight combo with the AquaSignal Series 41 light purchased from Budget Marine, here in Cole Bay, St Maarten.  They did not have a 24V version, so I bought the 12V version, and successfully re-used the old globes - a 25W incandescent globe (OEM p/n 90003) for the Steaming light, and a LED 50W generic equivalent for the downlight (sourced in Martinique last year).

The mounting holes on the new unit made for a direct replacement of the old; but needed to be drilled for the size of the rivets to be used - which were the same as original.

The reason for the replacement was that the old unit had gotten brittle with age, and the tangs holding the down-light into place had broken away, resulting in the bulb for that falling off and going overboard at sea.  The new LED bulb was held in with cable-ties in the interim.  Rather than go for replacement of individual parts, I bit the bullet and went the whole hog.  The cost duty-free here in SXM, and with Budget marine cruiser's discount, was less than USD250-.

BTW, I decided to hold to an incandescent for the steaming light, on the assumption that power will not be an issue when using the engine; using the  25Wincandescents left-over from the change to LEDs of the Series 40 deck-nav lights and mast-head combo tricolour/anchor light.

Hope this is useful.

All the best,

David
Perigee, SM#396
St Maarten




For Sale: B&G Hydra 2000, plus Instrument & Sensor suite

SV Perigee
 

For Sale:

Due to systems upgrade; which was triggered by the B&G Sonic Speed sensors becoming unreliable.

1x B&G Hydra 2000 processor, original; with the optional additional expansion processor (enables an extra four instrument displays) - still installed, was working when sensors and instruments were disconnected.  I note a H2000 processor alone lists on eBay at ~$350- (untested, $800- tested).  Asking for both together $350-, or near offer.

1x B&G Analogue Mast Head Unit: Model 213 MHU (10 pins); was working when removed last week; includes cables, junction box, mounting  bracket, sensor, as per [ https://www.marineelectricsystems.net/products/b-g-213-mhu-pack-wind-sensor-masthead-unit-pack, new list price $1,350-]; asking $350, or near offer.

5x B&G Analogue Displays: Wind Direction, Wind Speed, Boat Speed, Depth, plus Expanded Wind (Close Hauled indicator); asking $85- each, ONO; $320- for all 5, ONO.

$850 the lot, ONO.

Am prepared to be flexible on price for AMEL Owners.

Currently in St Maarten, mid-May to Antigua, then Martinique.

Please contact via PM, or e-mail to svperigee[at]gmail[dot]com

If unsold via this forum, will go to facebook, then eBay.

David
Perigee, SM#396
St Maarten








Re: Raymarine AIS not working on Furuno Chart Plotter?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

When we installed B&G chartplotters in 2013, a B&G AIS send/receive went in as well, thinking it would facilitate things.

I have since learned that there was no need at all to go with the B&G AIS. 

First of all, the B&G AIS communicates with the B&G chartplotter via NMEA2000.  There is nearly zero integration between the AIS and the chartplotter.  For practical purposes, call it none.  The chartplotter sees a bunch of standardized AIS messages on the NMEA 2000 net and puts them on screen as graphics.  These messages could be coming from the moon and the plotter would be happy with them.

Second, I have since learned that most "big brand" AIS boxes actually come from only one or two specialist companies.  So for example my B&G NAIS-400 looks all pretty in black and looks similar to the other B&G boxes... but it is an outsourced product, made by someone else.

Third, I have since enabled AIS on our iPads, on both the MaxSea TZ chartplotter and on Weather4D.  What did I do?  Literally simply tell them the internal IP address of the boat's B&G WiFi station, and select "enable" on the iPads.  Instant AIS on iPads running software that could not care less what brand the AIS is.

Lesson: go with an AIS you like, and forget about the "big brand" AIS devices.  I always thought the Vesper from Australia (or is it NZ?) offers very nice AIS boxes with extra functionality, and in retrospect, that's what we should have installed.

Cheers,

SM2K N. 350


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine AIS not working on Furuno Chart Plotter?

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Bill

Thanks, and completely agree with you, thats why I insisted. NMEA should be compatible across manufacturer, - it’s the intentions of having such a standard protocol. 
But Reymarine representant said it works, but my FURUNO NAVnet will not be able to present the AIS data on the chart plotter. I think I need to "dig in" here and I will call another electronic guy to get a second opinion. 

Best regards
Ruedi  
SY WASABI
Amel 54. #55
 
Von: <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Antworten an: <amelyachtowners@...>
Datum: Freitag, 27. April 2018 um 15:58
An: <amelyachtowners@...>
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine AIS not working on Furuno Chart Plotter?

 

I can not comment on Furuno comparability specifically, but our Raymarine AIS works just fine with our B&G instruments. It did require a special cable adapter to connect the proprietary “Seatalk” connectors into standard NMEA2k system.

AIS data transmitted on the NMEA bus protocol should be completely comparable across manufacturers, especially since the unit sold by Raymarine is an industry standard AIS with Raymarine labels and connectors.

The Raymarine AIS unit on our boat was installed by the previous owner, and he had only interfaced it via 0183 to his laptop. When we bought Harmonie she had no NMEA2k network. Other than the cable adapter, the AIS was very much plug n’ play.

One of the reasons I have avoided Raymarine in general is their attempts to close off their system as much as they can. The whole point of a NMEA2k system is so different manufacturer’s equipment can play well together.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Eleuthera, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Racor filter

Stefano Biffi
 

Thanks sharing your experience 

Stefano
N'EVEREST Super Maramu 185
now  in Magra river Italy 

Il giorno 30 apr 2018, alle ore 19:07, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hi Stefano,


I have twin Racors and have used both 5 and 10 micron without a problem. Engineers have told me that 5 is unnecessary and would put a strain on the pump but I think other Amel users have used 5.


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Piraeus


From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of Stefano Biffi cptbiffi@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: 30 April 2018 15:54:21
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Racor filter
 
Dear SM owners, my lady is hull 185 with Volvo engine. She was born in 1997 with single fuel filter and I will upgrade with a double Racor  filter. I received different offer, different option like 75/1000 with cartridges 30 micron or 75/900/MA. I understood that if I put 10 micron I will stop more dirty but I have no ideas if I will reduce the flow of diesel to the engine. Any one of you did the same modification, which model and which cartridge are you using with Volvo TMD 22B
Thanks for your experience

Stefano
N'EVEREST SM185
now in Magra river  Italy


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marina di Ragusa

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Barry and Penny

I have seen you are in Marina di Ragusa (MdR). I just had contact with the marina to request bearthing for next Winter. 

I got a quote for €2500  VAT incl. from 01/10/18 to 30/04/19. 

Can you give me some comments hints/recommendations about the Marina.
Would you go there again and did you feel it’s a save place. They only gave me Pontoon M as possible place, which I feel it is a bit out (close to sea).

BTW. Did you made some Electronic Work or new Antifouling in MdR? Are there good possibilities for boat work close by?

Best regards
Ruedi

Von: <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of "Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Antworten an: <amelyachtowners@...>
Datum: Freitag, 27. April 2018 um 11:24
An: <amelyachtowners@...>
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine AIS not working on Furuno Chart Plotter?

 

Hi Ruedi,


I have just completed the update from the originally fitted Furuno NMEA-0183 to NMEA-2000.
I did this in 2 stages. 
I stayed with mostly Furuno as I discovered that trying to mix created problems that bits were not talking to each other.
The AIS was supplied from Digital Yacht on recommendation from Furuno with the 12” Furuno EZ Touch display at the helm. The original depth and wind was converted from 0183 to 2000 by using an Actisense converter as the Furuno converter would not talk to the B&G Hydra. 2 new Furuno displays in place of the B&G displays on the dash panel.
I stayed was using the old Furuno Chart Plotter display for radar only.
I just completed the change over to the new Furuno digital radar and new depth and wind for NMEA 2000.
I now have complete digital and full NMEA-2000.
I took out all of the originally fitted B&G and Furuno and sold it to the owner of an ex charter boat, who did not want to over capitalize his boat investment. He took all of the wiring and cabling. I sold the Actisense converter on Ebay for £45.
I had a little bit of trial and error, Furuno and their seller (Cactus) were very helpful with advise on connecting and exchanging bits. B&G also helped with phone advise during the change over. 
What I found out was that you must be carful when mixing manufacturers bits.
I did all the change over myself with phone help from tech people at Furuno, B&G, Digital Yacht and Cactus.
I also installed a Digital Yacht PC with TV monitor at the chart table connected to the EZ Touch via HDMI cable.
I never felt that I was a bother to any of these suppliers even though I was phoning them a lot.
I did speak to Raymarine before I started this project but decided to stay with Furuno and who they recommended. Raymarine did not instill confidence in me to go with them, Furuno did.
Hope this is of some help and good luck with you upgrade..
I am very happy with my new system.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Soon to depart:’
 Marina di Ragusa.  Sicily


On Apr 25, 2018, at 21:38, Rudolf@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello everyone in the Group


I have a Furuno AIS Receiver (passive) and I'd like to upgrade to a Transceiver (active). Now since I plan to go to Raymarine Electronics sometimes in the Future (Radar/Chartplotter etc.), I asked Reymarine for such a new active AIS box (I would have one part Raymarine already by then).

 

Now the Raymarine engineer came on board and said that the Raymarine AIS will not be compatible with my Furuno Chart plotter even if both are talking NMEA2000. I was surprised about this comment and I'm confused now weather this guy will only sell other new Raymarine components or is it real!?


When I insisted he said; YES that Raymarine AIS also talks NMEA2000 but still then it will not work correctly. His English was not perfect like mine, but I understood that this is Reymarine politics (they just don't want to have this configuration running). I have Furuno NAVnet vx2 on my AMEL-54 (2007).


Who else in the group experienced the same or does know if this is correct or wrong statement from Reymarine. If this is product politics I'm rather not going to Reymarine in the future.... ;-) 


Thanks for advice

Ruedi 

SY WASABI A54 #55




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine AIS not working on Furuno Chart Plotter?

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Barry 

Thank you very much for the helpful information. 
You’re absolutely right with mixing and I don’t like. Unfortunately Amel mixed from new B&G, Furuno, and Reymarin AP, what was not the best choice and I don’t know why they did.  
On my former boat I had everything from Raymarine and I was happy with it.

I was told that „Wasabi“ does have NMEA2000. Is it possible the Amel changed from 0183 to 2000 over time?

Best regards
Ruedi

Von: <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of "Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Antworten an: <amelyachtowners@...>
Datum: Freitag, 27. April 2018 um 11:24
An: <amelyachtowners@...>
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raymarine AIS not working on Furuno Chart Plotter?

 

Hi Ruedi,


I have just completed the update from the originally fitted Furuno NMEA-0183 to NMEA-2000.
I did this in 2 stages. 
I stayed with mostly Furuno as I discovered that trying to mix created problems that bits were not talking to each other.
The AIS was supplied from Digital Yacht on recommendation from Furuno with the 12” Furuno EZ Touch display at the helm. The original depth and wind was converted from 0183 to 2000 by using an Actisense converter as the Furuno converter would not talk to the B&G Hydra. 2 new Furuno displays in place of the B&G displays on the dash panel.
I stayed was using the old Furuno Chart Plotter display for radar only.
I just completed the change over to the new Furuno digital radar and new depth and wind for NMEA 2000.
I now have complete digital and full NMEA-2000.
I took out all of the originally fitted B&G and Furuno and sold it to the owner of an ex charter boat, who did not want to over capitalize his boat investment. He took all of the wiring and cabling. I sold the Actisense converter on Ebay for £45.
I had a little bit of trial and error, Furuno and their seller (Cactus) were very helpful with advise on connecting and exchanging bits. B&G also helped with phone advise during the change over. 
What I found out was that you must be carful when mixing manufacturers bits.
I did all the change over myself with phone help from tech people at Furuno, B&G, Digital Yacht and Cactus.
I also installed a Digital Yacht PC with TV monitor at the chart table connected to the EZ Touch via HDMI cable.
I never felt that I was a bother to any of these suppliers even though I was phoning them a lot.
I did speak to Raymarine before I started this project but decided to stay with Furuno and who they recommended. Raymarine did not instill confidence in me to go with them, Furuno did.
Hope this is of some help and good luck with you upgrade..
I am very happy with my new system.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Soon to depart:’
 Marina di Ragusa.  Sicily


On Apr 25, 2018, at 21:38, Rudolf@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello everyone in the Group


I have a Furuno AIS Receiver (passive) and I'd like to upgrade to a Transceiver (active). Now since I plan to go to Raymarine Electronics sometimes in the Future (Radar/Chartplotter etc.), I asked Reymarine for such a new active AIS box (I would have one part Raymarine already by then).

 

Now the Raymarine engineer came on board and said that the Raymarine AIS will not be compatible with my Furuno Chart plotter even if both are talking NMEA2000. I was surprised about this comment and I'm confused now weather this guy will only sell other new Raymarine components or is it real!?


When I insisted he said; YES that Raymarine AIS also talks NMEA2000 but still then it will not work correctly. His English was not perfect like mine, but I understood that this is Reymarine politics (they just don't want to have this configuration running). I have Furuno NAVnet vx2 on my AMEL-54 (2007).


Who else in the group experienced the same or does know if this is correct or wrong statement from Reymarine. If this is product politics I'm rather not going to Reymarine in the future.... ;-) 


Thanks for advice

Ruedi 

SY WASABI A54 #55




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Racor filter

 

Stefano,

Racor, the largest maker of these filters recommend 30 micron. Normally the OEM engine filter is 10 micron. I sent you via private email 3 pages from the Amel School book on this subject.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Stefano Biffi cptbiffi@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear SM owners, my lady is hull 185 with Volvo engine. She was born in 1997 with single fuel filter and I will upgrade with a double Racor filter. I received different offer, different option like 75/1000 with cartridges 30 micron or 75/900/MA. I understood that if I put 10 micron I will stop more dirty but I have no ideas if I will reduce the flow of diesel to the engine. Any one of you did the same modification, which model and which cartridge are you using with Volvo TMD 22B
Thanks for your experience

Stefano
N'EVEREST SM185
now in Magra river Italy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos.......

greatketch@...
 

Ryan,  

This Volvo engine is a bit of a strange beast...  

Most diesels come with VERY specific instructions from the manufacturer to run them at a fairly narrow RPM range at full throttle.  Not so with Volvo and this engine.  The manual even suggests that selecting a prop that "limits" the top PRM might have advantages...  

This is what Amel did.  They selected the props for these engines so they run lower at lower rotational speeds.  And get a lot of benefits from it. Longer life, quieter operation, more efficiency from the lower speed prop... And a few downsides (anybody want to come clean my sooty hull?)

The engine itself was made by Perkins.  They specify it to run at 4500 at full throttle/full load, which seems a pretty good match for the 5150 RPM "no-load" maximum set in the injection pump.

Unlike a non-fuel injected gasoline engine, a diesel won't normally "run away" at full throttle without a load since there is a governor as part of the injection pump.

I haven't come up with any reason I want to run this test, since the top speed is not an adjustment on the injection pump that should be fiddled with away from the test bed.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Palmetto Point, Eleuthera, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Steaming/Deck light Replacement

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guessing Game

Ian Park
 

Fred
I had to do it for real this season. I just picked up a piece of 10mm rope lying in the locker, sat down in front of the genoa furler and popped it in place and pulled. I didn’t have too long a piece of rope, probably about 4 or 5 metres. It ran most of the sail in quite easily and I was able to thread the tail of the rope back in while the last bit of rope was going out so had a continuous furl.
I dare say in a very strong wind it might be a bit tougher, but one of the mast winches and a longer rope should see the job done. Best to find a calm day on anchor or in a marina, haul the genoa out, pull the pin up and give it a go. Had to do the same with the main outhaul very recently and it was (not surprisingly) straightforward. On both occasions it was sticking brushes - the second time I used the technique on an earlier post, got the lump hammer out and tapped round the edge of the motor. It started working again. Thanks whoever suggested that one! 
Tomorrow’s job is to sort the brushes out!!

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


On 30 Apr 2018, at 11:48, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Fred,

this is the rope you use to lift the outboard engine from its support on the guard rail:
Run both shackled ends of the rope through the open pulleys at mizzen boom end, and tie the loop of the rope to the handling halyard on mizzen mast starboard (at spreaders).
Then tie the shackles to the harness of your outboard engine. That's a good way to give it to the people in the dinghy.

Have a good practise.

Olivier

On Monday, April 30, 2018, 11:10:13 AM GMT+2, scentstone@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
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Hi,


Amel smartness has no limit !

I would like to open a new chapter of this game for our experts if they can help at identifying this rope.

There are 2 shackles and quite special design so I thought that it is here since the launching.

Picture attached : 

 

Additionally I would be grateful, if someone can share a picture + characteristics of the genuine forestay rope for manually furling the genoa.


Fred

S/V ScentStone

SM2K #375 currently Bundaberg AU



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos.......

Ryan Meador
 

Bill K,

Am I understanding correctly that your motor/manual claims it is safe to operate your engine up to 5150 RPM in neutral at wide open throttle?  I was just playing around with mine the other day, trying to ensure the turbo was working, and I didn't dare go above 4500 RPM.  It would be great to know I'm not going to break anything by going higher (assuming my engine has the same code).

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Dieter,


 I haven't see this gadget before--I had always assumed that a  tacho would be accurate.


My mechanic comes soon. His first thoughts are that it could be the fuel pump rather than the injection pump.

We will see.


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Zea Marina, Piraeus


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Hi,

here is what I did in order to control the installed tachometer: I bought this instrument

https://www.conrad.de/de/drehzahlmesser-voltcraft-dt-10l-werksstandard-ohne-zertifikat-122624.html

 

You only have to fix the delivered reflective mark on a turning part of the motor and via the laser of the instrument you

get contactless the correct rotational speed. Its very easy and I found out that I had to adjust my tachometer.

Just my 2 cents.

 

Dieter

Fal-lera Sharki #135

 

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According to my shop manual the maximum no-load speed is coded into the "setting code" on the injection pump.

 

The manual says:  

"A typical setting code is 2643H000CE/1/3200  In this example the maximum speed is 3200 rpm."

The setting code on my engine is 2643H058BE/1/5150  which would indicate the the correct no-load maximum speed is 5150 RPM.  

 

The code is stamped into a label on the side of the injection pump...  like the (hopefully) attached photo.

 

If yours is the same, I am not sure I see the problem yet..

 

Whenever you are checking the rotational speed of the engine for critical adjustments, be sure you do not trust the installed tachometer.  They can be wildly inaccurate.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie