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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharki Main Sail ELECTRIC furling

Roy Duddy <RDuddy@...>
 

Alberto,

Thanks for the reply. My Sharki came from New Rochelle with electric
furler attached. My hull #123.

Roy



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amarsini
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharki Main Sail ELECTRIC furling



Dear all,
I own the Sharki 144 made in the year 1986. When I bought it in 2006 I
asked Amel for the possibility to install an electric engine on the
main sail furling system but the answer was that Amel did not foresee
it for the Sharki.

I have seen some Sharkis around with the electric furling system like
Santorin and SM have.

Does any one know something about it or can give any information about
it? Is it possible that the model I have seen adapted the Santorin or
SM system?

Thank you in advance.
ciao

Alberto (Sharki 144)


Sharki Main Sail ELECTRIC furling

amarsini <alberto.marsini@...>
 

Dear all,
I own the Sharki 144 made in the year 1986. When I bought it in 2006 I
asked Amel for the possibility to install an electric engine on the
main sail furling system but the answer was that Amel did not foresee
it for the Sharki.

I have seen some Sharkis around with the electric furling system like
Santorin and SM have.

Does any one know something about it or can give any information about
it? Is it possible that the model I have seen adapted the Santorin or
SM system?

Thank you in advance.
ciao

Alberto (Sharki 144)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Ron,

If your going to keep the electric furling unit. You might want to check the seals on the gear box. At least the small one on the drive shaft. The whole unit is surprisingly easy to disassemble. The seals are cheap and easily found. I ordered a couple spares and can easily get the numbers for those also if you like.

Tom

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Roy Duddy
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 08:34
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor



Thanks Tom.

I appreciate that.

Roy

From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fisher, Thomas W.
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor

Hi Ron,

I just over hauled the roller fuller this past winter on my sharki. The
motor did not have any markings left on it. But it was easily rebuilt at
a shop. I do have a spare motor on board that I looked to use briefly.
I'll try and remember to pull it out this weekend and look for a number
for you.

Tom Fisher

Sharki #142, "SHEILA"
Kingston, Ont, CAN.

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From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Roy Duddy
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 08:21
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor

Listmates,

Does anyone know the specifications/Model number of the 12 volt electric
furling motor on 1985 Sharki. Mine got wet and I want to replace it. Or
in the alternative has anyone installed a roller furling unit?
Recommendations?

Thanks.

Roy Duddy

175 Route 101

Bedford, NH 03110

603-472-8500

603-472-7333 Fax


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor

Roy Duddy <RDuddy@...>
 

Thanks Tom.

I appreciate that.

Roy



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fisher, Thomas W.
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor



Hi Ron,

I just over hauled the roller fuller this past winter on my sharki. The
motor did not have any markings left on it. But it was easily rebuilt at
a shop. I do have a spare motor on board that I looked to use briefly.
I'll try and remember to pull it out this weekend and look for a number
for you.


Tom Fisher

Sharki #142, "SHEILA"
Kingston, Ont, CAN.

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Roy Duddy
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 08:21
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor

Listmates,

Does anyone know the specifications/Model number of the 12 volt electric
furling motor on 1985 Sharki. Mine got wet and I want to replace it. Or
in the alternative has anyone installed a roller furling unit?
Recommendations?

Thanks.

Roy Duddy

175 Route 101

Bedford, NH 03110

603-472-8500

603-472-7333 Fax


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Hi Ron,

I just over hauled the roller fuller this past winter on my sharki. The motor did not have any markings left on it. But it was easily rebuilt at a shop. I do have a spare motor on board that I looked to use briefly. I'll try and remember to pull it out this weekend and look for a number for you.


Tom Fisher

Sharki #142, "SHEILA"
Kingston, Ont, CAN.

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Roy Duddy
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 08:21
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SHARKI furling motor



Listmates,

Does anyone know the specifications/Model number of the 12 volt electric
furling motor on 1985 Sharki. Mine got wet and I want to replace it. Or
in the alternative has anyone installed a roller furling unit?
Recommendations?

Thanks.

Roy Duddy

175 Route 101

Bedford, NH 03110

603-472-8500

603-472-7333 Fax


SHARKI furling motor

Roy Duddy <RDuddy@...>
 

Listmates,

Does anyone know the specifications/Model number of the 12 volt electric
furling motor on 1985 Sharki. Mine got wet and I want to replace it. Or
in the alternative has anyone installed a roller furling unit?
Recommendations?

Thanks.



Roy Duddy

175 Route 101

Bedford, NH 03110



603-472-8500

603-472-7333 Fax


Maramu Speader Widths

Howard Berger
 

Hello, all.

Our Maramu #144 refit is at the point of installing the standing
rigging. Would anyone know the width of both the main and mizzen
spreaders? I need the measurement from the mast to the tip of the
spreader.

Thanks much,
Howard Berger
s/v Jazz
Maramu #144


[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain

Jose_Luis Isasi <jose.luis.isasi@...>
 

Hi Vicente,

I can only see you Yahoo id (I will send it to you directly to your
email address). I do not have access to your Yahoo password (you will
have to ask Yahoo to reset it for you). Moreso, when I click on your
yahoo id I get a message of page not available (you may have been
deleted due to inactivity by Yahoo).

I hope you can get it with your Yahoo id. Otherwise you will need to
create a new Yahoo account and request membership to the group again.

Please let me know so I can delete your old account.

Regards
Jose-Luis

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Vicente Pereda Hernández
<VPEREDA@...> wrote:

Hallo Jose Luis.
My name is Vicente Pereda, I have been long time without get
into
the web and a I forgot my account name and my password how can I
get
it back.
Regards from Palma
VICENTE

El 28/07/2008, a las 16:17, Jose_Luis Isasi escribió:

Hi Richard,

Glad to know you are in Spain. I live in Madrid although my boat
is
berthed at Castellon (near Valencia). Drop me an email if you need
something, I´ll see to help.

Regards
Jose_Luis

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller
<richard03801@> wrote:

the standard chain for 53 footers is 10 mm or 3&#92;8ths dia, that
is
what they come with. For world cruising you´ll need 100 m-yards
300
feet.
good luck Richard on Challenge in Spain

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@> wrote:

From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin
rigging ,anchorchain
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 12:00 PM






Phil,

We use 5/16" "high test" chain which is appropriately rated.
5/16"
is
about 8mm. Regular 8mm chain would not be adequate.

Keep in mind that you will need a different gypsy for your
windlass
so
be sure to check with the windlass manufacturer before you buy
your
new chain.

Enjoy the new boat!

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, phil.berghmans
<no_reply@ .>
wrote:

hello everyone,

i've just bougth a amel santorin 1994 in the Med.We are
planning
to
leave the med april/ may next year.Through the red sea or via
Gibralter Atlantic we don't know yet.

We had a survey done wich was overall quite positive (she's a
clean boat
wich didn't cruise that much)Previous owner kept her in a
permenent
mooring in a marina and did some daysailing i presume.

The surveyor had 2 remarks about the rigging being 14 years
old
and
better should be changed allthough it doesn't show any signs
off
teare
and weare?Does anyone have any advise or experiance with this
and
what
this would cost?

Second there is an 8mm galvenised anchorchain with a 20 kg cqr
anchor
wich i am planning to replase by a 30kg type bugel,spade or
rocna
anchor.The surveyor said the 8mm chain is to ligth for a 14m
boat
off
about 11 or 12 ton loaded and should be changed by a 10 mm
chain?
Does anyone have any experience or advice on this?

I thank you and glad to join the club!

phil from "2 miles ahead"

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain

Vicente Pereda Hernández <VPEREDA@...>
 

Hallo Jose Luis.
My name is Vicente Pereda, I have been long time without get into
the web and a I forgot my account name and my password how can I get
it back.
Regards from Palma
VICENTE

El 28/07/2008, a las 16:17, Jose_Luis Isasi escribió:

Hi Richard,

Glad to know you are in Spain. I live in Madrid although my boat is
berthed at Castellon (near Valencia). Drop me an email if you need
something, I´ll see to help.

Regards
Jose_Luis

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller
<richard03801@...> wrote:

the standard chain for 53 footers is 10 mm or 3&#92;8ths dia, that is
what they come with. For world cruising you´ll need 100 m-yards 300
feet.
good luck Richard on Challenge in Spain

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 12:00 PM






Phil,

We use 5/16" "high test" chain which is appropriately rated. 5/16"
is
about 8mm. Regular 8mm chain would not be adequate.

Keep in mind that you will need a different gypsy for your windlass
so
be sure to check with the windlass manufacturer before you buy your
new chain.

Enjoy the new boat!

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, phil.berghmans
<no_reply@ .>
wrote:

hello everyone,

i've just bougth a amel santorin 1994 in the Med.We are planning
to
leave the med april/ may next year.Through the red sea or via
Gibralter Atlantic we don't know yet.

We had a survey done wich was overall quite positive (she's a
clean boat
wich didn't cruise that much)Previous owner kept her in a
permenent
mooring in a marina and did some daysailing i presume.

The surveyor had 2 remarks about the rigging being 14 years old
and
better should be changed allthough it doesn't show any signs off
teare
and weare?Does anyone have any advise or experiance with this and
what
this would cost?

Second there is an 8mm galvenised anchorchain with a 20 kg cqr
anchor
wich i am planning to replase by a 30kg type bugel,spade or rocna
anchor.The surveyor said the 8mm chain is to ligth for a 14m boat
off
about 11 or 12 ton loaded and should be changed by a 10 mm chain?
Does anyone have any experience or advice on this?

I thank you and glad to join the club!

phil from "2 miles ahead"

















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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain

Jose_Luis Isasi <jose.luis.isasi@...>
 

Hi Richard,

Glad to know you are in Spain. I live in Madrid although my boat is
berthed at Castellon (near Valencia). Drop me an email if you need
something, I´ll see to help.

Regards
Jose_Luis


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller
<richard03801@...> wrote:

the standard chain for 53 footers is 10 mm or 3&#92;8ths dia,  that is
what they come with.  For world cruising you´ll need 100 m-yards 300
feet.
good luck Richard on Challenge in Spain

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 12:00 PM






Phil,

We use 5/16" "high test" chain which is appropriately rated. 5/16"
is
about 8mm. Regular 8mm chain would not be adequate.

Keep in mind that you will need a different gypsy for your windlass
so
be sure to check with the windlass manufacturer before you buy your
new chain.

Enjoy the new boat!

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, phil.berghmans
<no_reply@ .>
wrote:

hello everyone,

i've just bougth a amel santorin 1994 in the Med.We are planning
to
leave the med april/ may next year.Through the red sea or via
Gibralter Atlantic we don't know yet.

We had a survey done wich was overall quite positive (she's a
clean boat
wich didn't cruise that much)Previous owner kept her in a
permenent
mooring in a marina and did some daysailing i presume.

The surveyor had 2 remarks about the rigging being 14 years old
and
better should be changed allthough it doesn't show any signs off
teare
and weare?Does anyone have any advise or experiance with this and
what
this would cost?

Second there is an 8mm galvenised anchorchain with a 20 kg cqr
anchor
wich i am planning to replase by a 30kg type bugel,spade or rocna
anchor.The surveyor said the 8mm chain is to ligth for a 14m boat
off
about 11 or 12 ton loaded and should be changed by a 10 mm chain?
Does anyone have any experience or advice on this?

I thank you and glad to join the club!

phil from "2 miles ahead"



















[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Richard: Glad to see that you made it to Spain. Drop me an email and fill me in on your
passage from Antigua to Spain.
Gary


Chain counter

jorge.zlatar <jorge.zlatar@...>
 

Greetings to all.

I have problems with the anchor chain counter. Is there any information
given by any member before?.The light in the censor responds on every
turn but the display is always in 0.
Thanks in advance.
Jorge
SMM 195.Excalibur


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bilge noise forward head

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Dave, Sounds like a shortage of air. Have you checked to see that the 220v extractor fan is still working? This helps to pull air in through the engine air vent.
Cheers, Ian and Judy Pen Azen SM302

http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719649/direct/01/


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

the standard chain for 53 footers is 10 mm or 3&#92;8ths dia,  that is what they come with.  For world cruising you´ll need 100 m-yards 300 feet.
good luck Richard on Challenge in Spain

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel santorin rigging ,anchorchain
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 12:00 PM






Phil,

We use 5/16" "high test" chain which is appropriately rated. 5/16" is
about 8mm. Regular 8mm chain would not be adequate.

Keep in mind that you will need a different gypsy for your windlass so
be sure to check with the windlass manufacturer before you buy your
new chain.

Enjoy the new boat!

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, phil.berghmans <no_reply@.. .>
wrote:

hello everyone,

i've just bougth a amel santorin 1994 in the Med.We are planning to
leave the med april/ may next year.Through the red sea or via
Gibralter Atlantic we don't know yet.

We had a survey done wich was overall quite positive (she's a clean boat
wich didn't cruise that much)Previous owner kept her in a permenent
mooring in a marina and did some daysailing i presume.

The surveyor had 2 remarks about the rigging being 14 years old and
better should be changed allthough it doesn't show any signs off teare
and weare?Does anyone have any advise or experiance with this and what
this would cost?

Second there is an 8mm galvenised anchorchain with a 20 kg cqr anchor
wich i am planning to replase by a 30kg type bugel,spade or rocna
anchor.The surveyor said the 8mm chain is to ligth for a 14m boat off
about 11 or 12 ton loaded and should be changed by a 10 mm chain?
Does anyone have any experience or advice on this?

I thank you and glad to join the club!

phil from "2 miles ahead"

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Trinidad-A/C Units

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

we took care of this problem by using a dehumidifier it took over a gallon a day out of the boat.  If you take the drip pan out and let the water fall to the head floor you get rid of the water and the boat stay dry.
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Spain

--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Naegels Patrick <naegels@online.be> wrote:

From: Naegels Patrick <naegels@online.be>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Trinidad-A/C Units
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 2:33 AM






Hi Gary,

I invite you to hire an air conditionning system during wintering.
Chaguaramas is particularly wet. Moreover, you have to consider a
weekly deck cleaning to bird's "gifts" which are several and very
marking on GRP.

Patrick - Caramel - SM2000#329


















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: older Maramu - plumbing fixtures

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi to all we have replaced the water pump in SM 209 with a new Jabsco on demand system.  We removed the expansion tank that works find.  For the showers we bought from Defender 2 single lever valves and just used the valve itself  that stoped the leak and we get good pressure.
Good luck.  Challenge Richard and Joan in Spain sm209

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, eric <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: older Maramu - plumbing fixtures
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 8:32 PM






Hi would you please explain exactly where your pressure regulator was
located?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of billklein48
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: older Maramu - plumbing fixtures

The bath faucet/showers can be replaced with kitchen sprayers that
one may get at Home Depot or such. They usually can be had with the
flex hose. I have to look at my kitchen faucet, but I think the
rubber is a standard rubber grommet that one could find at a a good
auto supply.
Another useful and interesting fact is that if you ever replace the
water supply pump for domestic water, and the pump is of the modern
self regulating kind, you should remove the old pressure regulator
probably located under the rear area of the lazarette under the floor
boards. My pressure regulator froze up after winter layup and It
caused me a little grief after I replaced the water pump and still
had no water pressure. After a little detective work I found the
regulator that I was previously unaware of. Then after removing the
regulator had plenty of water for a brisk shower!!
----Bill Klein SV Popeye

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>
yahoogroups. com, "Dave_Benjamin"
<dave_benjamin@ ...> wrote:

Our lovely old Maramu has the original plumbing fixtures in the
heads
and galley sink. I need to find a new rubber piece for where the
pipe
penetrates the sink. Also I've got some leaks in one of the
extendable
faucet/showerhead fittings. Will I be able to find replacement parts
in a plumbing supply place in the US or are these a bit trickier?
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bilge noise forward head

edmund_steele
 

Dave,
The bilge drains from the forward head directly to the sump in the engine room. Depending upon the flow of the pipe, I guess you have a low spot that fills with fluid. When you run either the generator or the engine, the engine compartment extractor fan turns on and slightly lowers the air pressure in the compartment, producing the gurgling noise your guests have complained of. When you run the engine, then the boat is moving and rocking and your guests would not hear anything over the noise of transit.

You can try: 1) telling your guests to close the doors to the forward cabin and quit complaining. 2) temporarily close off the forward bilge drain with the bilge shutoff in the forward floor locker. 3) look carefully at this exposed drain pipe inside the floor lockers and see if you can find the low spot. I would recommend deepening it if possible to make the fluid trap bigger. If you don't do this, you may get the smells of a fermenting sump back up this pipe to the forward head. If you dump Clorox into the sump to kill this smell, you risk acing the bilge pump - either temporarily or permanently.

I would vote for option 1 and make sure YOU sleep in the stern cabin.

Ed
S/V DoodleBug SM#331


bilge noise forward head

drdavegoodman
 

Greetings all.
I have a 1998 Amel Supermaramu #230. Guests who have stayed with me
have noticed a very annoying noise problem in the forward head area.
I wonder if anyone has dealt with this:
When the generator is running, there is a noise that can be heard in
the bilge piping at the forward head. The noise is intermittent, and
sounds like air pockets intermittently developing in the bilg piping.
In trouble shooting this noise, I have been able to stop the noise
by: 1. turning off the generator, or 2. leaving the generator run
but opening up the engine compartment ever so slightly. This all
seems very mistifying to me. Any ideas?
Dave
S/V Bel Ami


Re: Corrosion in the Seawater Manifold

Naegels Patrick <naegels@...>
 

Hi everybbody,

In know the same problem for almost 5 years (Caramel SM2000 #329 May
2001). I dedided to replace the manifold this year and asked Amel to
build a new one.

Take care, because there are several models, with differents pipes
diameters. I get a wrong model, but Amel changed it fast

All the best

Patrick Naegels

°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

William,

I had the exact same problem in the exact same place. It must be
some stray
AC coming from the pump. However, I am hesitant on grounding the
pump. That
would put the stray AC in the whole system. I had a new manifold
built out
of stainless steel. In retrospect, I should have the welder make it
with a
spare port for a pencil Zinc.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
williammelbourne
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Corrosion in the Seawater Manifold



I have a general question about corrosion in the seawater manifold.
In May this year the seawater intake manifold on our Super Maramu
2000 (7+
years
since new, 5 years at sea) developed a leak. The leak occurred at
the "tee"
junction
between the main manifold and the smaller pipe that connects to the
hose
leading to the
A/C pump. I removed the manifold, and I found serious corrosion
inside of
that junction (I
presume from electrolysis). The corrosion appeared to follow the
original
solder band at
the junction. However, the corrosion only occurred at the A/C
junction, none
was evident
in any of the other four junctions for the two toilets, the anchor
wash and
the desalinator.
I repaired the manifold by soldering a slightly oversized short
copper
sleeve over the
original A/C pipe. The sleeve fits against the main manifold but it
is short
enough to leave
enough room to reconnect the A/C hose onto the original A/C pipe,
which was
in good
shape at its downstream end. It seems to work OK, but I worry about
the
future.
My question is: Why did this corrosion happen? The manifold has
always been
well-
bonded, exactly the way that Chantiers Amel rigged it originally.
Our
grounding strap in
the bilge appears to be intact. I haven't done any stray current
search yet,
but I will after
hurricane season. It is true that the A/C line gets the most use (a
factor
of at least 10
more than the others), and perhaps here is a clue about the cause.
Maybe after 5 years in saltwater, I'm expecting too much from
copper. But
the contrast
between the lack of corrosion everywhere inside the manifold other
than at
the A/C
junction is at least suspicious. The inside of the A/C junction
looked like
Swiss cheese in
miniature, whereas the rest of the manifold looked corrosion-free.
I also
note that other
Amels of similar vintage have developed this same leak in the same
area of
the manifold.
I have already searched through the Amelyachtowners forum, in
particular,
Messages
No. 3814, 3813, 3811, 3810, 3809, 3782, 3781, 3780, 3779, 3778, for
possible
clues to
this corrosion problem. Although these messages are definitely
informative,
I couldn't
find a definite answer to my question.
Any comments? Thanks!
William Melbourne
S/V THIRD WISH
SMM306





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sail furling gear box

Eric Freedman
 

Gary,

got it. Thanks.

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sail furling gear box



Sorry Eric.

Let me try again. Please see the photo labeled Outhaul Drive Shaft #2 in the
SM Outhaul
Service Folder in the photos section. The shaft is shown in the removed
condition. When
assembled, the shaft is down thru the center of the gear assembly. Now
imagine that you
are trying to PUSH the shaft out of the gear assembly. If you place the
fingers of both your
hands on the top cover of the gear assembly (equivalent to the fingers of
the puller) and
use both your thumbs to push the shaft out of the gear assembly (equivalent
to the
threaded screw of the puller) you have an idea of what is accomplished.
Because the
horizontal reach of the puller fingers couldn't reach past the edges of the
mounting
bracket to engage the top of the gearbox cover, a piece of metal was placed
across the top
of the gearbox cover which bore on the cover while the fingers engaged the
cross piece.
I wish I had a picture because a picture would be worth a million words.
Let me know how we are doing in this explanation.

Gary

the the top of the . your --- In amelyachtowners@
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, eric
<kimberlite@...> wrote:

Gary,

Sorry I don't quite get it.

Eric





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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sail furling gear box



Eric: The link that I posted shows the puller with the jaws and puller
bolt
pointed downward.
In the case of the shaft on the outhaul this was inverted so that the
puller
bolt (in the center
of the puller) was impacting on the shaft from the bottom. He place a
short
bolt in the
threaded hole in the bottom of the shaft (where the seal cover cup and
bolt
was) to protect
the shaft and threads. The jaws of the puller were placed on a piece of
metal that passed
across the top of the gearbox in the window that is formed between the
bottom of the boom
and the top of the mounting bracket. Thus the pressure was on the shaft
from
below and
the jaws were gripping on the top of the gearbox. I hope that makes sense.
In this case it
wasn't really a puller but rather a pusher or on the other hand you are
pulling the gearbox off
the shaft of the winch. I hope that helps.

Gary

Eric Asked:

" to what did the machinist attach the straight jaw puller ?"