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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

Courtney Gorman
 

Ruedi,
it takes ALOT of power did you have your generator on?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin 54 #101


-----Original Message-----
From: Rudolf@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2018 12:58 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

 
Dear Forum
On my Amel-54 I discovered that the bow truster stops working after repeatingly use within 10-15 min timeframe.
I used the bow truster a bit more than usual when I practiced some manouvers first time; - and on a second occation when I had to manouver in a marina with a lot of windguests of 18+ kn and another chain over my Anker.
It stopped working and after a while (maybe 10 min.) it re-started & operated normaly. I know BT Is not made for constant use, - only few seconds at a time. Then wait and re-use another time.
Question from a beginner:
Does the bow truster has a termic fuse which is activated after some time of usage to save the motor from overheating? 
Does anyone know exactly how it works and if this can be adjusted because I think the BT on Wasabi switches of quite fast. Any ideas or other information?
Best regards
Ruedi
SY Wasabi A54#55
Sailing Cyclades GR.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

 

Ruedi,

The Amel 54 Bow Thruster has an internal thermal switch (sometimes called thermal reset or thermal cutout). 10 - 15 minutes is a lot of use and will probably cause the thermal switch to open. You should limit your use to 5 second bursts with at least 5 seconds between bursts. Sometimes people will overuse a bow thruster by constantly correcting back-and-forth. If this is what you are doing, try to minimize having to correct.

The thermal switch in the Amel 54 bow thruster has been known to become defective. I know of one case of this happening and SidePower suggested that the thruster needed to be returned to them for replacement. I am not sure if you or I could do this replacement of the thermal switch because I have never done it.

Good luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970






On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 11:58 AM Rudolf@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Forum

On my Amel-54 I discovered that the bow truster stops working after repeatingly use within 10-15 min timeframe.

I used the bow truster a bit more than usual when I practiced some manouvers first time; - and on a second occation when I had to manouver in a marina with a lot of windguests of 18+ kn and another chain over my Anker.

It stopped working and after a while (maybe 10 min.) it re-started & operated normaly. I know BT Is not made for constant use, - only few seconds at a time. Then wait and re-use another time.

Question from a beginner:

Does the bow truster has a termic fuse which is activated after some time of usage to save the motor from overheating? 

Does anyone know exactly how it works and if this can be adjusted because I think the BT on Wasabi switches of quite fast. Any ideas or other information?

Best regards

Ruedi

SY Wasabi A54#55

Sailing Cyclades GR.




Bow-Truster overheat

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Dear Forum

On my Amel-54 I discovered that the bow truster stops working after repeatingly use within 10-15 min timeframe.

I used the bow truster a bit more than usual when I practiced some manouvers first time; - and on a second occation when I had to manouver in a marina with a lot of windguests of 18+ kn and another chain over my Anker.

It stopped working and after a while (maybe 10 min.) it re-started & operated normaly. I know BT Is not made for constant use, - only few seconds at a time. Then wait and re-use another time.

Question from a beginner:

Does the bow truster has a termic fuse which is activated after some time of usage to save the motor from overheating? 

Does anyone know exactly how it works and if this can be adjusted because I think the BT on Wasabi switches of quite fast. Any ideas or other information?

Best regards

Ruedi

SY Wasabi A54#55

Sailing Cyclades GR.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Do you want a spare Linear Actuator control board?

mfmcgovern@...
 

Kent,

I completely missed this message.  Sorry about that!  We are in Deale at Herrington Harbor North. I do have a few more PCBs available from the first batch that I had made.  If you are still interested, you can email me directly at mfmcgovern at gmail dot com.  

From what I can tell, the whole linear actuator assembly came from a company called SNT (www.snt.tm.fr/)  I was unable to get any response from them via email even when I had my french-speaking daughter translate my email.  

Thanks,
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale. MD USA


SM2000 Railing diameter and Supplier for Fixtures

Dominique Guenot
 

Sorry for the blast. I am not on the boat and would like to buy some parts for a side solar panel project


Could you be so kind to confirm the diameter of a SM200 railing: 

- Horizontal railing diameter 25mm Is that correct? 

- Stanchion diameter 22mm is that correct? 


I am also looking for a supplier (USA or Europe) of fixtures like: 

-swivel for solar panel around the railings 

-adjustable leg  to support 

-any fixture that will fit - either railing or stanchion


I did some internet search but did not find a comprehensive set.


Any help will be greatly appreciated 

Thank you so much

Dominique 

sv Viva currently in Fiji 



Re: Cam lock on main halyard?

Peter de Groot
 

Thank you Alan,
Yes the leech of the main is already in bad shape. It tends to fold over when furling. The last 2 or 3 feet don’t straighten out until sailing some distance. I’ve had the leech line replaced and I have a new bungee that still needs to be installed. I’m planning to work a Santa Cruz sail loft when it’s time to order a new main. Your comments are appreciated.

Btw: my main halyard is full length which prompted the cam lock question

Best
Peter
La Querida sm 207


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Finally a real forum member

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Thomas,

Are you on the Island at present? If you like we could meet. I’m sure you have all kinds of stories on an Amel 54

Regards,

Arno
Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Finally a real forum member

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Arno,

Congratulations and welcome !

We put coppercoat on Garulfo last year. 
It worked great in the med. 
In the Caribbean, we were disappointed to get green algae. But no barnacles whatsoever, just soft stuff and, in Martinique, the tiny shrimps that seems to feed on it. 
However, one advantage of coppercoat is that you can very easily remove whatever has tried to stick to it with a sponge and you get back to where you started. And that for years to come. We've done it a couple of times in the Caribbean before longer passages. 

If you search the forum, you'll get more instances of positive feedback and analysis of pros and cons and tips for application. 
One piece I agree on is Bill Rouse's: satisfaction with the product depends on your expectations.


Hope that helps,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curacao



On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 13:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Congratulations and welcome to the group Arno.

I am using SeaHawk Island 44.  It is available in the US only for boats over 75 ft.  It is tin based and works great for 4-4.5 years.  All the big boats and ships use tin- based paints because they perform better.

I haven’t hauled the boat just to service the prop shaft.  My C-drive oil remains clear.  I drop the bow thruster after 2 years to check the oil in it and so far it has remained clear and no loss.  I rarely dock so the bow thruster gets very little use.  I put 4-500 hours a year on the engine.

A word of warning...nothing else sticks to tin-based paints.  To recoat with another product, the hull has to be completely stripped (in a closed environment in the US).

Kent Robertson
Kristy
SM 243


On Jun 27, 2018, at 7:32 AM, 'Luijten A.F.' arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks to all the people for the advice and congrats. It seems the Micron 77-stuff is the way forward.


FW: Curaçao Customs

Mark Erdos
 

To close this topic out – We had our boat papers, receipts, clearance docs and bonding letter etc. We went through the Green Line, nothing to declare. We were asked where we came from and how long we planned to stay. We explained we arrived by plane but we leaving by private boat. They did not ask anything more and cleared us. They did not inspect our bags. We had two bags of clothes and 3 big duffle bags of boat parts. My understanding is nothing was due on the parts as our boat was vessel in transit.

 

Thanks to those who responded!

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Curacao

www.creampuff.us

 

From: Mark Erdos [mailto:mcerdos@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:16 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: Curaçao Customs

 

We are flying into Curaçao with a few parts for the boat. The boat is already there (placed in bond) as we left it on the hard for our trip. Does anyone know the formalities for customs as we are considered a vessel in transit? We will be leaving Curaçao within a few days once the boat is launched. I can’t seem to find any info through regular channels. Has anyone anything to offer?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 bimini and weather protection

Porter McRoberts
 

Thanks Dean 
I’ll have a look 
Appreciated 
Porter


On Jun 27, 2018, at 6:34 AM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Porter, I have posted some pictures of the winter tent on the Facebook group. (I struggle with the logistics the posting attachments on this forum).
Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
Amel 54#154


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Finally a real forum member

karkauai
 

Congratulations and welcome to the group Arno.

I am using SeaHawk Island 44.  It is available in the US only for boats over 75 ft.  It is tin based and works great for 4-4.5 years.  All the big boats and ships use tin- based paints because they perform better.

I haven’t hauled the boat just to service the prop shaft.  My C-drive oil remains clear.  I drop the bow thruster after 2 years to check the oil in it and so far it has remained clear and no loss.  I rarely dock so the bow thruster gets very little use.  I put 4-500 hours a year on the engine.

A word of warning...nothing else sticks to tin-based paints.  To recoat with another product, the hull has to be completely stripped (in a closed environment in the US).

Kent Robertson
Kristy
SM 243

On Jun 27, 2018, at 7:32 AM, 'Luijten A.F.' arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks to all the people for the advice and congrats. It seems the Micron 77-stuff is the way forward.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cam lock on main halyard?

karkauai
 

Hi Peter,
I have vertical battens in the main and mizzen. As long as the boom is at 90d, furling hasn’t been a problem.  Sail shape is significantly better than without them.  I don’t know how much that effects boat speed, but it probably helps some.

My battens are 20mm wide and 6-7 mm thick.  I can imagine that any thicker might be a problem going into the slot.

I am going to ask my sail loft about adding luff foam to improve sail shape when partially furled.  I don’t know if the battens will interfere with that.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243


Re: Amel 54 bimini and weather protection

Dean Gillies
 

Porter, I have posted some pictures of the winter tent on the Facebook group. (I struggle with the logistics the posting attachments on this forum).
Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
Amel 54#154


Re: Finally a real forum member

Arno Luijten
 

Thanks to all the people for the advice and congrats. It seems the Micron 77-stuff is the way forward.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

rossirossix4
 

Regarding Micron 77, in many (most?) parts of Europe it is no longer available having been replaced by Micron 350.  We had Micron 350 applied (Micron 77 no longer available) in April, 2018 at Manoel Island Yacht Yard, Malta. According to the experts at Manoel International Paint has assured them that performance will be as good or better.  When I compared content they looked similar.  Micron 350 is about 45% DiCopperOxide and 25% Zinc Oxide. We will let you know how it does.

Bob, KAIMI SM 429


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

Peter Forbes
 

I agree my 54 seems good with Micron 77. We just completed our circumnavigation.

Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
In La Rochelle

On 27 Jun 2018, at 05:25, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Arno;
 
Welcome to the group and the Amel family.
 
I second Ruedi's opinion. We have used Micron 77 and it has performed well in the Med. If anything does manage to attach itself to the hull after a long stay in a marina, a nice day sail cleans it all up.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

 

Congratulation Arno

I had the same question few month a go. 
After a nice forum member mentioned that an Amel has to go out of water for the change of 'c-drive shaft bearing' every 2-3 year anyhow, I decided for traditional Micron-77 AF. Hope this works in MedSea ;-)

Ruedi
Wasabi A54#55
Sailing Cyclades


On 26 Jun 2018, at 22:06, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Arno congratulations!!  

Coppercoat designed to keep you boat in the water for longer without having to pull it to repaint yet you will have to service your Seadrive every 2 years which works nicely for new antifoul.  It is still a choice and matter of opinion but from my little bit of research sticking with traditional antifoul works best for us.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin 54 #101
Grenada
-----Original Message-----
From: arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Jun 26, 2018 2:05 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

 
Dear Forum,

After quite some time lurking on this forum and provided unsollicited comments to Amel owners , we finally managed to get hold of one of our own. If all goes well we will gain the ownership by mid-July.
She is a 2009 Amel 54 in dire need of a lot of t.l.c.
We will bring her to Curacao in the next month and put her on the hard for the remainder of the hurricane season. There we will start with the extensive process to bring her back to her original “Grandeur”.

My first question is about Coppercoat. Is that possible/recommendable for an Amel?

I’m sure many other questions will pop up in the coming months...

Regards

Arno
A54 - Luna





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isolated grounding question - solar installation

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Hanspeter
Agree absolutely..I don't see why one should connect the arch to the bonding system.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cam lock on main halyard?

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Peter,

If you take the battens out of the sail you have and try to use it, it will be worse.
The standard main and mizzen sails on SMs have hollow leeches ie the line of the leech from the end of the boom to the mast is dipped towards the mast...that makes it furl easily into the mast and also makes the sail "fly"....without battens.
The idea of the battens is that you don't have the hollow leech, you have a sail which has either a straight line leech or even slightly "roached" ie the line of the leech is curved slightly away from the mast...that is probably what you have...as we have...and the sail area is slightly increased
If you take the battens out of that sail, and you sail with it, the leech will collapse and the airflow across the sail will be terrible. When you try to furl it in you will have real issues with the collapsed leech.....worse than if you left the battens in.
The trick with furling the battened sail is that the boom needs to be very near 90 degrees to the mast with not much tension on the main sheet, and when you start to furl, release the outhaul a little then run the mast motor and "chase' the sail into the mast with the boom motor, watching the leech as it goes in to make sure it goes in straight with the battens parallel to the mast. The topping lift bungee cord needs to be in good condition as well...that will help you keep the boom in the right place.
If you really want to get rid of the battens, then either you need to re-cut the sail with a hollow leech, or get a new mainsail.

Furling the main with battens takes practice...it took me a while to get it right...but it works and we have no problems with it at all....

good luck
Alan
SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cam lock on main halyard?

Peter de Groot
 

Thanks Bill R.

I will be experimenting without battens before ordering the new main.  I like that idea, because furling and especially unfurling have been troublesome at times.

 

Best,

Peter de Groot
La Querida SM207


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Arno;
 
Welcome to the group and the Amel family.
 
I second Ruedi's opinion. We have used Micron 77 and it has performed well in the Med. If anything does manage to attach itself to the hull after a long stay in a marina, a nice day sail cleans it all up.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

 

Congratulation Arno

I had the same question few month a go. 
After a nice forum member mentioned that an Amel has to go out of water for the change of 'c-drive shaft bearing' every 2-3 year anyhow, I decided for traditional Micron-77 AF. Hope this works in MedSea ;-)

Ruedi
Wasabi A54#55
Sailing Cyclades


On 26 Jun 2018, at 22:06, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Arno congratulations!! 

Coppercoat designed to keep you boat in the water for longer without having to pull it to repaint yet you will have to service your Seadrive every 2 years which works nicely for new antifoul.  It is still a choice and matter of opinion but from my little bit of research sticking with traditional antifoul works best for us.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin 54 #101
Grenada
-----Original Message-----
From: arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Jun 26, 2018 2:05 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

 
Dear Forum,

After quite some time lurking on this forum and provided unsollicited comments to Amel owners , we finally managed to get hold of one of our own. If all goes well we will gain the ownership by mid-July.
She is a 2009 Amel 54 in dire need of a lot of t.l.c.
We will bring her to Curacao in the next month and put her on the hard for the remainder of the hurricane season. There we will start with the extensive process to bring her back to her original “Grandeur”.

My first question is about Coppercoat. Is that possible/recommendable for an Amel?

I’m sure many other questions will pop up in the coming months...

Regards

Arno
A54 - Luna

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