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wind direction on B&G Hydra

John Clanton
 

I recently experienced a loss of wind direction data on my B&G Hydra while on passage.  Wind speed continued to report normally, but all direction related data boxes displayed a flat line.  A reboot of the Hydra system at the breaker corrected the problem, but it occurred again later in the day.  I plan to disconnect, treat with CorrosionX, and reconnect the wires at the black box and at the junction below the mast step. 

Has anyone had a similar experience?  Aside from checking connections, does anyone have a suggestion other than finding a technician to look at it?


Thanks,



John

S/V Devereux, A55 #65

Ribadeo Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Wolfgang,
You can look at BatteryMagastore online I got 13 Hankook MF31-750 110Ah in Sept 2015, which cost £70 in UK and in France they now advertise them at about €88. They should last you about 5 years.
This was the best price that I found.
Best Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Split Croatia


On Jun 28, 2018, at 12:37, webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amel sailors, I am on the way to Hyeres /France and want New batteries for our Amel 54.

Charger and everything will not be changed and I would like to buy nearly the same batteries - the originals are from 2010/11. Any recommendations where to buy and which brand ?

Thank you.

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise  Amel 54 # 162 on the way to Bonifacio/France


Batteries for Amel 54

Wolfgang Weber
 

Dear Amel sailors, I am on the way to Hyeres /France and want New batteries for our Amel 54.

Charger and everything will not be changed and I would like to buy nearly the same batteries - the originals are from 2010/11. Any recommendations where to buy and which brand ?

Thank you.

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise  Amel 54 # 162 on the way to Bonifacio/France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Mohammad and Aty,

So you don't have that 425A fuse on Kokomo?
It'd be interesting to have other data points. 

When we started seeing A54s for sale, someone from the yard in Hyères told us Amel started to fit the emergency disconnect on 54s  after instances of incidents where the bow thruster wouldn't stop. The thermal switch should provide that safety stop, but maybe they felt there should be a manual override too, in case.

By the way, it was in the same sentence as "have the genset running when you use the bow thruster" that raised a few eyebrows in this group a while back. At the time, not knowing better, I took it for granted. Sufficient and safe, yes. Necessary?, I'm not sure. We don't do it anymore as we don't go to marinas that much and when we do, we try to play the game of least-bow-thruster-usage to improve our handling skills, and our batteries can handle the high current discharge.


Fair winds!

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curacao



On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 05:38, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas;
 
Your fuse may have been added on because I've heard some surveyors and insurance companies regard this situation as unsafe and will require the fuse to be added. I'm pretty sure that we were told by Olivier during our survey that the bow thruster is directly connected to the batteries. When I inquired about the reason, I believe the response was that Amel felt that the safety of the boat, when absolutely needing the bow thruster to be operational, was more important than the possibility of the bow thruster being damaged due to overuse.
 
The emergency disconnect is a manually operated switch which would require intervention form a person to stop current flowing to the bow thruster.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

 


Hi Mohammad,

On Garulfo (54-122) there is also a 425A fuse on the positive cable and an emergency disconnect (big red button), both housed in the box inside the forward locker. 

I recently found the emergency disconnect to be rusted frozen so it's on the list for replacement. 

I would encourage others to test the emergency disconnect as it has a carbon steel backing plate and is mounted without any kind of waterproofing so is bound to rust. 

Fair winds,

Thomas 
GARULFO
A54-122
Curacao 


On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 19:27, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Reudi;
 
Yes, the Amel 54 has a thermal cutoff to prevent damage to the thruster as well as continuous high current draw (Around 550 Amps at 24V) which could lead to fire on board. We've had the thermal cutoff kick in  only a couple of times and it has reset in a matter of minutes. We have not timed the exact reset duration.
 
I'm not aware of any adjustments in the thermal cutoff. The bow thruster has a direct connection to the batteries without a breaker. The thermal cutoff is the only safety items preventing major damage to the thruster and/or wiring.
 
Try to use the thruster in bursts (less than 15 seconds), as much as possible, so it has time to cool down between usage. We try to over correct a bit when we use use the BT so as the bow falls off, the BT has more time to cool.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad Shirloo
323-633-2222 Cell
310-644-0908 Fax
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...


Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat


 

Dear Forum

On my Amel-54 I discovered that the bow truster stops working after repeatingly use within 10-15 min timeframe.

I used the bow truster a bit more than usual when I practiced some manouvers first time; - and on a second occation when I had to manouver in a marina with a lot of windguests of 18+ kn and another chain over my Anker.

It stopped working and after a while (maybe 10 min.) it re-started & operated normaly. I know BT Is not made for constant use, - only few seconds at a time. Then wait and re-use another time.

Question from a beginner:

Does the bow truster has a termic fuse which is activated after some time of usage to save the motor from overheating? 

Does anyone know exactly how it works and if this can be adjusted because I think the BT on Wasabi switches of quite fast. Any ideas or other information?

Best regards

Ruedi

SY Wasabi A54#55

Sailing Cyclades GR.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi fellow Amel owners,

From and environmental point of view; I feel that there is no problem at sea and in the open ocean. There is certainly a lot of hypocrisy regarding commercial vessels being permitted to use tin based antifouling. I do not claim to be very knowledgable on the chemistry and biology involved.

However in marinas,  rivers and harbours there is often a high concentration of yachts that just sit there year in year out, thousands of them.  Antifouling with tin based paints is probably very harmful to aquatic life. I should also mention that these areas are traditionally fish nurseries and under a lot of pressure from agricultural run off and general pollution. Not to mention the sanding and painting that boat yards do. I know in many places they are supposed to capture the residue, but in the real world how often does that happen?

So yes in one way it is a shame that we can not apply a bottom paint that will last 5 years but we have a duty to look after our seas and inland waterways after all we are yachting for pleasure.

When I bought Amelia in June 2017 the existing bottom paint was Micron 66. I decided to leave it and see how it fared as I was due to haul in Trinidad for September to December. It was still perfect so I left it again, but added a coat  of Micron 77 to the rudder. It is still perfect. I wonder how eco it really is.

Nick 

On 28 Jun 2018, at 10:34, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

They may have told you that but since 2008, tin based antifouling has been banned in the US
Google it ....
Cheers
Alan 
Elyse SM437



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

Alan Leslie
 

They may have told you that but since 2008, tin based antifouling has been banned in the US
Google it ....
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Thomas;
 
Your fuse may have been added on because I've heard some surveyors and insurance companies regard this situation as unsafe and will require the fuse to be added. I'm pretty sure that we were told by Olivier during our survey that the bow thruster is directly connected to the batteries. When I inquired about the reason, I believe the response was that Amel felt that the safety of the boat, when absolutely needing the bow thruster to be operational, was more important than the possibility of the bow thruster being damaged due to overuse.
 
The emergency disconnect is a manually operated switch which would require intervention form a person to stop current flowing to the bow thruster.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

 


Hi Mohammad,

On Garulfo (54-122) there is also a 425A fuse on the positive cable and an emergency disconnect (big red button), both housed in the box inside the forward locker. 

I recently found the emergency disconnect to be rusted frozen so it's on the list for replacement. 

I would encourage others to test the emergency disconnect as it has a carbon steel backing plate and is mounted without any kind of waterproofing so is bound to rust. 

Fair winds,

Thomas 
GARULFO
A54-122
Curacao 


On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 19:27, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Reudi;
 
Yes, the Amel 54 has a thermal cutoff to prevent damage to the thruster as well as continuous high current draw (Around 550 Amps at 24V) which could lead to fire on board. We've had the thermal cutoff kick in  only a couple of times and it has reset in a matter of minutes. We have not timed the exact reset duration.
 
I'm not aware of any adjustments in the thermal cutoff. The bow thruster has a direct connection to the batteries without a breaker. The thermal cutoff is the only safety items preventing major damage to the thruster and/or wiring.
 
Try to use the thruster in bursts (less than 15 seconds), as much as possible, so it has time to cool down between usage. We try to over correct a bit when we use use the BT so as the bow falls off, the BT has more time to cool.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad Shirloo
323-633-2222 Cell
310-644-0908 Fax
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...


Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat


 

Dear Forum

On my Amel-54 I discovered that the bow truster stops working after repeatingly use within 10-15 min timeframe.

I used the bow truster a bit more than usual when I practiced some manouvers first time; - and on a second occation when I had to manouver in a marina with a lot of windguests of 18+ kn and another chain over my Anker.

It stopped working and after a while (maybe 10 min.) it re-started & operated normaly. I know BT Is not made for constant use, - only few seconds at a time. Then wait and re-use another time.

Question from a beginner:

Does the bow truster has a termic fuse which is activated after some time of usage to save the motor from overheating? 

Does anyone know exactly how it works and if this can be adjusted because I think the BT on Wasabi switches of quite fast. Any ideas or other information?

Best regards

Ruedi

SY Wasabi A54#55

Sailing Cyclades GR.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

karkauai
 

Two different marinas here in the US indifferent states have told me that it’s perfectly legal to put Island 44 on any boat greater than 75 ft.
Kent


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

karkauai
 

 My thoughts exactly, JP.  It seems the small amount of paint we use is an easy target for bureaucrats and legislators who want to make a statement.  We have no clout compared to the commercial shipping, military, and mega yacht crowd.  If they made the rule for everybody I’d likely go along if the science is solid.

Sorry...I’m getting too political, I’m done.

Kent
Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isolated grounding question - solar installation

James Cromie
 

Thank you all for your thoughtful responses.  I find this forum to be one of the great aspects of owning an Amel.  In the short time I have owned my own Amel, I have gained such a tremendous amount of knowledge and understanding just from the ongoing discourse on this forum.  

As far as the solar panel arch and panels:  yes, my panels do have an aluminum frame.  I might use G-10 insulation at the mounting points of the aluminum solar panel frames to the steel arch, but it seems as though there is no strong argument to connect the arch to the bonding system.  
I will tackle this project in another two weeks and hopefully post some photos of the installation… always interested in the critique from those more experienced than myself while I’m on this incredibly steep learning curve!

Best,
James
Soteria SM2K 347
Portsmouth, RI


On Jun 26, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

I believe that if you assembled an expert panel to discuss this issue consisting of Nigel Calder, Henri Amel, Joe Dwyer (lightning expert), the best marine surveyors, and others, the shining star on that panel would be Henri Amel. Sure, that belief is personal and could be argued. Maybe what cannot be argued on this issue is that more design, effort, and money is has been but into each Amel Yacht during the last 20 years than any other builder of production pleasure yachts. I personally have had issues with a few Nigel Calder doctrines, but I can understand when he write these as "one-fits-all-boats" he certainly can be a little 'Off" on one design/boat.

From personal experience:
I do not believe that bonding is required on the arch of a SM anymore than its life rail, standing rigging and masts...they are not bonded by Amel, so Henri Amel agrees. My guess is, that as unpredictable as lightning is, it 
almost always strikes the masts. 
​BTW, ​
I am thankful for the carbon fiber masts...they make excellent lightning rods. I have twice experienced lightning strikes in anchorages where "unpredictable lightning" struck boat
​s​
with a carbon fiber mast
​s​
, and left all the rest of us mostly untouched.


Little side note: After Henri died, the management of Amel decided to add some things 
to the Amel bonding system
​ ​
like standing rigging and life rail
​. I wonder whose research they used, or maybe they thought it is easier to bond, than to explain? I will never know the answer to that question.​
 

EARTH to the Arch & Frames:
I do not think that DC Negative is attached to the solar panel frame. How do you know that it is? Home solar installations normally require a "safety ground" a/k/a EARTH attached to the frames, then to EARTH. It is possible that some expert, somewhere, has googled this point and relayed it to you. Remember DC Negative is not EARTH, and your Amel does not have an EARTH circuit for DC Voltage. I believe that the arch is isolated from DC Positive and Negative, and if so, connecting the Arch to Amel bonding is OK, but probably not necessary. Probably more important is dissimilar metal corrosion when using stainless steel and aluminum in the same construction. I know this is probably not the case with your Emek Arch, which is stainless, but, do your panels have aluminum frames?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970







On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 7:39 AM Nick Newington ngtnewington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Re lightening: this subject opens a can of worms with lots of theories. You should read Nigel Calder’s book. He explains the various ideas. Personally I am not at all convinced of one argument nor another. 


 My view re potential electrolysis is that on balance every metal fitting should be linked to the bonding system, but the important ones are the sea water exposed ones like through hull fittings and sea water pumps. The idea being that there is no potential difference between any one piece of hardware and another. 

Nick (Amelia hull 019 AML 54)
On 26 Jun 2018, at 13:02, James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thank you for your input and experience. I waS also not originally planning to bond the frame. Your points about the other metallic fixtures are good. However, I wonder about how this situation may be different considering the arch is holding a high voltage system. My feeling is it should not matter as long as the solar power circuit “-“ is well insulated from the housing. 


What about the potential risk related to lightening? Is this at all relevant?

Pardon my ignorance!

James


On Jun 26, 2018, at 3:42 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Interesting....

We have a stainless arch with solar panels and a wind generator on a separate mount, but none of this framework is connected to the bonding system.
I'm not sure that this is necessary.
None of the other stainless structures on the boat are connected to the bonding system.
The masts and rigging aren't, neither are the rails around the boat, nor the bow roller fitments.
I'd be interested to know what others think about this
Olivier ? Bill R ? Bill K?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Finally a real forum member

John Clark
 

Congratulations  Arno,   whatever you paint your boat with.....she is an Amel,  one of the finest ocean crossing vessels built.  

I am in Martinique for the next few months enjoying cheese and wine....will head toward Curecua later in the year.  Hope to meet up.

John Clark 
SV Annie. SM37
Le Marin. ....pontoon 4 of course.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 4:44 PM 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Hi Arno

Always happy to meet, and we'll be back in Curacao at the end of august. 

Cheers 

Thomas 
54-122

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 17:11, arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas,


Are you on the Island at present? If you like we could meet. I’m sure you have all kinds of stories on an Amel 54

Regards,

Arno
Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat re-charging

John Clark
 

Paul,  you say the HP tube is frosted before entering the evaporator/freezer?  10" vac is too low,  105 psi does sound high....


On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 6:16 PM sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all once again!

I'd like to resume this thread having now acquired a gauge set and a cylinder of R134A. After lots of trawling the web, tI'm still not 100% sure about my diagnosis for my faulty freezer. After running for quite some time, the high pressure reading is 105 psi and the low is minus 10 in Hg. This leads me to believe that there is a blockage in the capilliary tube or the evaporator, as from what I have managed to find out the low pressure should be around 7-10psi. The high pressure tube frosts up to the point of entry to the evaporator but the evaporator remains cold but not frosted. I've tried heating it with a mini blow torch (as I've seen fridge techs do) but to no avail.

I would be interested if someone could confirm my diagnosis or correct it if it is wrong, and offer any further advice on how the remedy the problem. I understand it may require a vacuum in which case I'll have to get the experts in.

Cheres,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat re-charging

ya_fohi
 

Hi all once again!

I'd like to resume this thread having now acquired a gauge set and a cylinder of R134A. After lots of trawling the web, tI'm still not 100% sure about my diagnosis for my faulty freezer. After running for quite some time, the high pressure reading is 105 psi and the low is minus 10 in Hg. This leads me to believe that there is a blockage in the capilliary tube or the evaporator, as from what I have managed to find out the low pressure should be around 7-10psi. The high pressure tube frosts up to the point of entry to the evaporator but the evaporator remains cold but not frosted. I've tried heating it with a mini blow torch (as I've seen fridge techs do) but to no avail.

I would be interested if someone could confirm my diagnosis or correct it if it is wrong, and offer any further advice on how the remedy the problem. I understand it may require a vacuum in which case I'll have to get the experts in.

Cheres,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat

Sv Garulfo
 


Hi Mohammad,

On Garulfo (54-122) there is also a 425A fuse on the positive cable and an emergency disconnect (big red button), both housed in the box inside the forward locker. 

I recently found the emergency disconnect to be rusted frozen so it's on the list for replacement. 

I would encourage others to test the emergency disconnect as it has a carbon steel backing plate and is mounted without any kind of waterproofing so is bound to rust. 

Fair winds,

Thomas 
GARULFO
A54-122
Curacao 


On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 19:27, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Reudi;
 
Yes, the Amel 54 has a thermal cutoff to prevent damage to the thruster as well as continuous high current draw (Around 550 Amps at 24V) which could lead to fire on board. We've had the thermal cutoff kick in  only a couple of times and it has reset in a matter of minutes. We have not timed the exact reset duration.
 
I'm not aware of any adjustments in the thermal cutoff. The bow thruster has a direct connection to the batteries without a breaker. The thermal cutoff is the only safety items preventing major damage to the thruster and/or wiring.
 
Try to use the thruster in bursts (less than 15 seconds), as much as possible, so it has time to cool down between usage. We try to over correct a bit when we use use the BT so as the bow falls off, the BT has more time to cool.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad Shirloo
323-633-2222 Cell
310-644-0908 Fax
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...


Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow-Truster overheat


 

Dear Forum

On my Amel-54 I discovered that the bow truster stops working after repeatingly use within 10-15 min timeframe.

I used the bow truster a bit more than usual when I practiced some manouvers first time; - and on a second occation when I had to manouver in a marina with a lot of windguests of 18+ kn and another chain over my Anker.

It stopped working and after a while (maybe 10 min.) it re-started & operated normaly. I know BT Is not made for constant use, - only few seconds at a time. Then wait and re-use another time.

Question from a beginner:

Does the bow truster has a termic fuse which is activated after some time of usage to save the motor from overheating? 

Does anyone know exactly how it works and if this can be adjusted because I think the BT on Wasabi switches of quite fast. Any ideas or other information?

Best regards

Ruedi

SY Wasabi A54#55

Sailing Cyclades GR.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Finally a real forum member

Sv Garulfo
 


Hi Arno

Always happy to meet, and we'll be back in Curacao at the end of august. 

Cheers 

Thomas 
54-122

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 17:11, arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas,


Are you on the Island at present? If you like we could meet. I’m sure you have all kinds of stories on an Amel 54

Regards,

Arno
Curacao


Re: SM2000 Railing diameter and Supplier for Fixtures

Alan Leslie
 

We are heading to Vuda Pt today
I will fly home for 2 weeks and then we will head to Vanuatu.
So maybe we miss each other again !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Finally a real forum member

Alan Leslie
 

Tin is seriously bad for the marine environment.
Read this :


In 2008 organotin compounds acting as biocide like TBT compounds were banned in anti-fouling paint and included in the Rotterdam Convention and have been banned by the International Convention on the Control of Harmful Anti-fouling Systems on Ships of the International Maritime Organization. It states that ships cannot bear organotin compounds on their hulls or external parts or surfaces, unless there is a coating that forms a barrier so that organotin compounds cannot leach out to reduce exposure by allowing recovery to occur.

Even though banned by some international agencies, TBT anti-fouling paints are still used in countries with poor regulation enforcement, as in the Caribbean.


Seahawk have this to say about their Islands 44 Tin based paint :

Tin-Based – 1000H Series

Islands 44 Plus HARDER was developed for the harshest tropical environments in the world. Islands 44 Plus HARDER is a multi-seasonal self-polishing paint. It has a high load of copper and tin that will ensure maximum protection against marine growth. The most popular antifouling paint in the Caribbean, Islands 44 Plus Harder is effective on boats of all types and sizes, including mega yachts.

  • Self-cleaning copolymer with high load of tin (TBT) and copper
  • The only tin (TBT) paint available on the market
  • Highest level of antifoulant protection available
  • Highest quality grade of cuprous oxide available (more potent active ingredient)

This product may not be sold or applied in the United States. Please check with your respective Country for regulatory requirements regarding sale and use of the product.


"MAY NOT BE SOLD OR APPLIED IN THE UNITED STATES"

And in fact Seahawk were prosecuted some years ago for still selling tin based paint in the US when they had signed a document saying that they had ceased.

There are god reasons for banning tin based antifouling and it is only irresponsible states that turn a  blind eye to it. To continue to use tin based paints when there are alternatives available is recklessly and selfishly irresponsible given the evidence of the harm they cause to the marine environment.

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: SM2000 Railing diameter and Supplier for Fixtures

Dominique Guenot
 

Great, that is very helpful.
Thank you for taking the time. 

We will be in Fiji early August for boat work, then sailing. 
We are currently in the pit in Vuda Point Marina 

Will we have the chance to meet? 

Cheers 
Dom 
sv Viva 


Re: SM2000 Railing diameter and Supplier for Fixtures

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Dominique

The rail diameter is 25 mm
Stanchion diameter is 23 mm

Can't help you with suppliers

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Musket Cove Fiji


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Older Maramu steering system pics

James Alton
 

Miles,

   Good to hear from you as well.  I am sorry to hear that the family has been sick with the stomach bug,  I hope that you do not catch the bug and that everyone feels better soon.

   Thanks for the information on adjusting the cables.  It sounds like the washer with the tabs is some type of a locking device for the nuts.  I have seen some that you can slide the locking device off of the nut and some that you have to actually bend the tabs away.  I have not taken a close look at the adjustment nuts on Sueño but will soon!  My surveyor felt that there was a little too much play in the steering system so I will try to remove the play.

   I would not worry too much about the lack of gel coat on the bottom since it is not a very good moisture barrier.  The epoxy coatings are the best.  The thicker the coating the more protection you have but some epoxies apply thicker than others so you cannot really go by coats.  I would suggest finding out which product the yard plans to use and to do some research.  The Interlux Interprotect seems to work pretty well if the product is fresh and properly applied.  On the other hand I have also seen this product soften and blisters form under the epoxy coating on one boat.  Not sure of what happened there.  The only other barrier coating system that I am familiar with is the West System Epoxy with the 422 additive.  The West Epoxy is a thin coating so you need quite a few coats but seems to work quite well.

   Yes, we are going to definitely need some time off!  We would like to spend all of our time off on the boat sailing!  I am trying to figure out how to arrange a long (10 months) trip cruising the Med. while following the 3 month Schengen Visa limitations.  I think that we can spend 3 months in Croatia which so far has not joined Schengen but I think that this might change sometime in 2019.  North Africa and Turkey are two other possibilities but I have some concerns about safety that I am researching.  If you have any suggestions let me know.

Best,

James

On Jun 25, 2018, at 6:34 AM, 'smilesbernard@...' smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi James

Good to hear from you
I know that busy feeling !
We leave the uk on the 17th and have thew house to clear for rental plus everyone but me has a vomiting bug! 

I'm very glad the pics are helpful :)
yes very very little wear on the racks
yes the cables are adjusted at the quadrant 
you can see the adjustment points on the attached pic

I actually dont know how these work. I had to slacken off one side to allow for the reassembly so i need to look at is again and readjust things but its a strange set up. The locking/adjustment nuts either side of the tube clamp are held captive by a large washer with tabs on it (just about visible on the pic). So i cant quite figure out how you are supposed to adjust things as the nuts wont turn as they are held in place

I'll have another look once we are afloat again

Thanks so much for the thoughts on the anode attachments. I will check .... i did not remove the anode of connecting bolt so i'm not sure if it had to be screwed out of if its just pushed through a whole in the rudder metal.
I'll see it the yard can thread it if not, put a bigger threaded bar in place and oversize the anode holes

She's had all her antifoul and primer stripped
which revealed the hull in good shape - nice and dry but no gelcoat - in places you can see the fiber. I think it must have been stripped before. The yard is suggesting 4 or 5 coats of epoxy before the coppercoat. Do you think that sounds about right?


Hope you manage to find some space between the work to rest soon



All the very best

Miles

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