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Yanmar Super maramu engine panel

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Freshwater Pump - cycles rapidly

 

MARCO pumps in the EU and in the US is an Amel School preferred replacement for OEM pumps is an Amel SM and 54. Amel School clients enjoy a 20% discount on MARCO pumps when ordered directly from MARCO or their US distributor MATE-USA.

I like the MARCO and their pumps. Sadly they do not have a replacement for the MARINA ZZ bilge pump, but they have replacements for all of the other pumps.

Cycling on/off when the tap is turned on/off is almost always a defective bladder inside the accumulator. Amel did have stock of bladders for the Amel 54 accumulator.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:47 PM Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Dean,


Had this problem recently.  In my case, it was a burst line in the engine bay.

The pump also failed shortly thereafter and was replaced by a constant pressure Marco 12E.  This is an awesome pump giving 3 bars pressure and negates the installation of an accumulator. I can now wash my decks with fresh water :-)


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM007, Raiatea, Society Islands.

On 23 Jul 2018, at 07:39, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

While on the subject of freshwater pumps, we had an issue recently whereby our pump rapidly cycled on-off every time a tap was opened.  This is symptomatic of a discharged (or broken) accumulator.

If the accumulator is simply discharged then it can be recharged with a bicycle pump or similar via the Schrader? valve at the forward facing end of the tank.  It’s under a plastic cap which can be unscrewed.

The process I used was to turn off the pump at the board, then drain a tap slowly until the pressure on the gauge at the pump just approaches zero. Then use the bicycle pump to pressurise the accumulator up to the desired working pressure, in my case around 1.5 - 2..0Bar.  Turn on the pump at the board and it should go back to a normal cycle again.

If you can’t pressurise the accumulator then it may need replacing. If it returns back to rapid cycling quickly, then maybe it has a leak. Not sure if it can be serviced.

Cheers
Dean

SY Stella
Amel 54#154
 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Freshwater Pump - cycles rapidly

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Dean,

Had this problem recently.  In my case, it was a burst line in the engine bay.

The pump also failed shortly thereafter and was replaced by a constant pressure Marco 12E.  This is an awesome pump giving 3 bars pressure and negates the installation of an accumulator. I can now wash my decks with fresh water :-)


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM007, Raiatea, Society Islands.

On 23 Jul 2018, at 07:39, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

While on the subject of freshwater pumps, we had an issue recently whereby our pump rapidly cycled on-off every time a tap was opened.  This is symptomatic of a discharged (or broken) accumulator.

If the accumulator is simply discharged then it can be recharged with a bicycle pump or similar via the Schrader? valve at the forward facing end of the tank.  It’s under a plastic cap which can be unscrewed.

The process I used was to turn off the pump at the board, then drain a tap slowly until the pressure on the gauge at the pump just approaches zero. Then use the bicycle pump to pressurise the accumulator up to the desired working pressure, in my case around 1.5 - 2.0Bar.  Turn on the pump at the board and it should go back to a normal cycle again.

If you can’t pressurise the accumulator then it may need replacing. If it returns back to rapid cycling quickly, then maybe it has a leak. Not sure if it can be serviced.

Cheers
Dean

SY Stella
Amel 54#154
 





Re: Freshwater Pump - cycles rapidly

Dean Gillies
 

Hi folks,
While on the subject of freshwater pumps, we had an issue recently whereby our pump rapidly cycled on-off every time a tap was opened.  This is symptomatic of a discharged (or broken) accumulator.

If the accumulator is simply discharged then it can be recharged with a bicycle pump or similar via the Schrader? valve at the forward facing end of the tank.  It’s under a plastic cap which can be unscrewed.

The process I used was to turn off the pump at the board, then drain a tap slowly until the pressure on the gauge at the pump just approaches zero. Then use the bicycle pump to pressurise the accumulator up to the desired working pressure, in my case around 1.5 - 2.0Bar.  Turn on the pump at the board and it should go back to a normal cycle again.

If you can’t pressurise the accumulator then it may need replacing. If it returns back to rapid cycling quickly, then maybe it has a leak. Not sure if it can be serviced.

Cheers
Dean

SY Stella
Amel 54#154
 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

Steve Bode
 

Thanks, Eric. I'm looking into that water temp alarm.
-Capt Bode

Steve Bode
Sailing Vessel Intention
Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117
Facebook.com/svIntention
+1 415-710-6659

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 10:03 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ps,

The photo of the melted Vetus muffler on the Borel site was my muffler.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 7:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

 

 

Hi Steve;

 

Glad you figured out your issue and it was a simple solution.

 

Olivier did  recommended not to use both chargers together when he did our survey. I know some do use both together, but we do not. We do have have a 100 A and a 40 A and we find the 100A sufficient for charging. My recommendation would be to select the biggest charger that your generator can handle. Use this for when you are on the generator and the smaller one when plugged in. With 400A 24V bank you could use 60-80A charger,if your generator and wiring allows.

 

The temperature sensors for the battery bank is a great safety item and also a worth while investment to maximize the life of your batteries. We see fluctuations of up to 0.4V during the different charging cycles depending on the battery compartment temperature.

 

As far as audible alarms check out Borel manufacturing. http://www.borelmfg.com.

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad And Aty

B&B KOKOMO

AMEL 54 #099


On Jul 22, 2018, at 3:32 AM, Steve Bode stevenmbode@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Thank you Amelians!

I believe that the problem was that the monitor lost its programming of max capacity. 

 

What I did: 

1. Batteries have been on charger for days so I assumed that they were fully charged as charger is in float.

2. Turn off charger

3. Turn of house batteries (big red handles)

4. Take picture of battery voltage on monitor -- 27..08 volts

3. Program the Magnetronic DCC4000 Battery Monitor to set capacity to 100% and total Ah to 400

4. Leave batteries to see how fast the voltage drops (remember, batteries are disconnected so there is no drain on them)

5. 2 hours later, check battery voltage - exactly the same 27.08

6. Open battery case and measure voltage on each battery. All were (almost) exactly the same - 13.52

7. Measured the voltage of each battery set -- nearly exactly the same -- 27.02 (slightly different than the battery monitor, but okay.

8. Check the charging profile of my Sterling 30A battery charger - AGM, charge=28.6, float=26.6

 

Now I guess buying AGMs put me in a spot to need a new alternator voltage regulator. Looking at the Sterling Alternator Regulator Damn, they're proud of that unit at 221 pounds! 

 

Also, I think that the 30A Sterling charger is too small. I have another 30A charger that I'm going to look into putting on line. That would be 60A charging and redundancy.

 

Lastly, want to find out if I can use the sterling regulator as my solar panel regulator (they aren't installed yet). Probably better than the cheapy regulator that I bought with the panel and could give nice uniform monitoring capability.

 

No wait, lastly. I want to hook up temperature sensors to my battery and alternator. Does everyone else use these? One thing I'm really big on is getting more audible alarms on the boat. I want to build an alarm system that I can connect various inputs into. Anyone know of a good system?


Steve Bode

Sailing Vessel Intention

Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117

 

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:27 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

You should also disconnect the batteries (just one terminal) and test them individually..assuming they are 12V, if any battery shows substantially less than 12.8V then that could be the cause of your issue.

 

Why has it happened?

Could be just a bad battery, or it could be, if you have the standard alternator without a 3 step regulator, many long periods of motoring will eventually kill your batteries.

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

eric freedman
 

Ps,

The photo of the melted Vetus muffler on the Borel site was my muffler.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 7:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

 

 

Hi Steve;

 

Glad you figured out your issue and it was a simple solution.

 

Olivier did  recommended not to use both chargers together when he did our survey. I know some do use both together, but we do not. We do have have a 100 A and a 40 A and we find the 100A sufficient for charging. My recommendation would be to select the biggest charger that your generator can handle. Use this for when you are on the generator and the smaller one when plugged in. With 400A 24V bank you could use 60-80A charger,if your generator and wiring allows.

 

The temperature sensors for the battery bank is a great safety item and also a worth while investment to maximize the life of your batteries. We see fluctuations of up to 0.4V during the different charging cycles depending on the battery compartment temperature.

 

As far as audible alarms check out Borel manufacturing. http://www.borelmfg.com.

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad And Aty

B&B KOKOMO

AMEL 54 #099


On Jul 22, 2018, at 3:32 AM, Steve Bode stevenmbode@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Amelians!

I believe that the problem was that the monitor lost its programming of max capacity. 

 

What I did: 

1. Batteries have been on charger for days so I assumed that they were fully charged as charger is in float.

2. Turn off charger

3. Turn of house batteries (big red handles)

4. Take picture of battery voltage on monitor -- 27..08 volts

3. Program the Magnetronic DCC4000 Battery Monitor to set capacity to 100% and total Ah to 400

4. Leave batteries to see how fast the voltage drops (remember, batteries are disconnected so there is no drain on them)

5. 2 hours later, check battery voltage - exactly the same 27.08

6. Open battery case and measure voltage on each battery. All were (almost) exactly the same - 13.52

7. Measured the voltage of each battery set -- nearly exactly the same -- 27.02 (slightly different than the battery monitor, but okay.

8. Check the charging profile of my Sterling 30A battery charger - AGM, charge=28.6, float=26.6

 

Now I guess buying AGMs put me in a spot to need a new alternator voltage regulator. Looking at the Sterling Alternator Regulator Damn, they're proud of that unit at 221 pounds! 

 

Also, I think that the 30A Sterling charger is too small. I have another 30A charger that I'm going to look into putting on line. That would be 60A charging and redundancy.

 

Lastly, want to find out if I can use the sterling regulator as my solar panel regulator (they aren't installed yet). Probably better than the cheapy regulator that I bought with the panel and could give nice uniform monitoring capability.

 

No wait, lastly. I want to hook up temperature sensors to my battery and alternator. Does everyone else use these? One thing I'm really big on is getting more audible alarms on the boat. I want to build an alarm system that I can connect various inputs into. Anyone know of a good system?


Steve Bode

Sailing Vessel Intention

Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117

 

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:27 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

You should also disconnect the batteries (just one terminal) and test them individually..assuming they are 12V, if any battery shows substantially less than 12.8V then that could be the cause of your issue.

 

Why has it happened?

Could be just a bad battery, or it could be, if you have the standard alternator without a 3 step regulator, many long periods of motoring will eventually kill your batteries.

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Steve;

Glad you figured out your issue and it was a simple solution.

Olivier did  recommended not to use both chargers together when he did our survey. I know some do use both together, but we do not. We do have have a 100 A and a 40 A and we find the 100A sufficient for charging. My recommendation would be to select the biggest charger that your generator can handle. Use this for when you are on the generator and the smaller one when plugged in. With 400A 24V bank you could use 60-80A charger,if your generator and wiring allows.

The temperature sensors for the battery bank is a great safety item and also a worth while investment to maximize the life of your batteries. We see fluctuations of up to 0.4V during the different charging cycles depending on the battery compartment temperature.

As far as audible alarms check out Borel manufacturing. http://www.borelmfg.com.

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B KOKOMO
AMEL 54 #099

On Jul 22, 2018, at 3:32 AM, Steve Bode stevenmbode@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Amelians!
I believe that the problem was that the monitor lost its programming of max capacity. 

What I did: 
1. Batteries have been on charger for days so I assumed that they were fully charged as charger is in float.
2. Turn off charger
3. Turn of house batteries (big red handles)
4. Take picture of battery voltage on monitor -- 27..08 volts
3. Program the Magnetronic DCC4000 Battery Monitor to set capacity to 100% and total Ah to 400
4. Leave batteries to see how fast the voltage drops (remember, batteries are disconnected so there is no drain on them)
5. 2 hours later, check battery voltage - exactly the same 27.08
6. Open battery case and measure voltage on each battery. All were (almost) exactly the same - 13.52
7. Measured the voltage of each battery set -- nearly exactly the same -- 27.02 (slightly different than the battery monitor, but okay.
8. Check the charging profile of my Sterling 30A battery charger - AGM, charge=28.6, float=26.6

Now I guess buying AGMs put me in a spot to need a new alternator voltage regulator. Looking at the Sterling Alternator Regulator Damn, they're proud of that unit at 221 pounds! 

Also, I think that the 30A Sterling charger is too small. I have another 30A charger that I'm going to look into putting on line. That would be 60A charging and redundancy.

Lastly, want to find out if I can use the sterling regulator as my solar panel regulator (they aren't installed yet). Probably better than the cheapy regulator that I bought with the panel and could give nice uniform monitoring capability.

No wait, lastly. I want to hook up temperature sensors to my battery and alternator. Does everyone else use these? One thing I'm really big on is getting more audible alarms on the boat. I want to build an alarm system that I can connect various inputs into. Anyone know of a good system?

Steve Bode
Sailing Vessel Intention
Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:27 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

You should also disconnect the batteries (just one terminal) and test them individually..assuming they are 12V, if any battery shows substantially less than 12.8V then that could be the cause of your issue.


Why has it happened?
Could be just a bad battery, or it could be, if you have the standard alternator without a 3 step regulator, many long periods of motoring will eventually kill your batteries.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

Steve Bode
 

Thank you Amelians!
I believe that the problem was that the monitor lost its programming of max capacity. 

What I did: 
1. Batteries have been on charger for days so I assumed that they were fully charged as charger is in float.
2. Turn off charger
3. Turn of house batteries (big red handles)
4. Take picture of battery voltage on monitor -- 27.08 volts
3. Program the Magnetronic DCC4000 Battery Monitor to set capacity to 100% and total Ah to 400
4. Leave batteries to see how fast the voltage drops (remember, batteries are disconnected so there is no drain on them)
5. 2 hours later, check battery voltage - exactly the same 27.08
6. Open battery case and measure voltage on each battery. All were (almost) exactly the same - 13.52
7. Measured the voltage of each battery set -- nearly exactly the same -- 27.02 (slightly different than the battery monitor, but okay.
8. Check the charging profile of my Sterling 30A battery charger - AGM, charge=28.6, float=26.6

Now I guess buying AGMs put me in a spot to need a new alternator voltage regulator. Looking at the Sterling Alternator Regulator Damn, they're proud of that unit at 221 pounds! 

Also, I think that the 30A Sterling charger is too small. I have another 30A charger that I'm going to look into putting on line. That would be 60A charging and redundancy.

Lastly, want to find out if I can use the sterling regulator as my solar panel regulator (they aren't installed yet). Probably better than the cheapy regulator that I bought with the panel and could give nice uniform monitoring capability.

No wait, lastly. I want to hook up temperature sensors to my battery and alternator. Does everyone else use these? One thing I'm really big on is getting more audible alarms on the boat. I want to build an alarm system that I can connect various inputs into. Anyone know of a good system?

Steve Bode
Sailing Vessel Intention
Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117
Facebook.com/svIntention
+1 415-710-6659

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:27 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

You should also disconnect the batteries (just one terminal) and test them individually..assuming they are 12V, if any battery shows substantially less than 12.8V then that could be the cause of your issue.


Why has it happened?
Could be just a bad battery, or it could be, if you have the standard alternator without a 3 step regulator, many long periods of motoring will eventually kill your batteries.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

Courtney Gorman
 


I was there on July 1 this Chef suggested that I have the barbecued ribeye it was amazing


On Jul 21, 2018, at 4:19 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

Really nice place! We were there last year and loved it. Be sure to eat the Texas Style BBQ on Friday nights at the Victory Bar located there in the marina. OMG – Soooo Good – Brisket you can eat with a fork. They start smoking it Thursday. Get there kinda early as it sells out.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 4:10 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

 

 

Hi Marc I’m in Port Louis marina in Saint George


On Jul 21, 2018, at 3:47 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

Where are you staying in Grenada?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

 

Bill thanks for the concern but I am staying in Grenada during hurricane season looking to move north in November.

Hope all is well 

Sincerely 

Courtney 

Trippin 

54 #101

Grenada 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

 

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies.. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved to another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.

 


Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert.. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.

 

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin

Thanks

Courtney Gorman

Trippin

54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

Alan Leslie
 

You should also disconnect the batteries (just one terminal) and test them individually..assuming they are 12V, if any battery shows substantially less than 12.8V then that could be the cause of your issue.

Why has it happened?
Could be just a bad battery, or it could be, if you have the standard alternator without a 3 step regulator, many long periods of motoring will eventually kill your batteries.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

Mark Erdos
 

Courtney,

 

Really nice place! We were there last year and loved it. Be sure to eat the Texas Style BBQ on Friday nights at the Victory Bar located there in the marina. OMG – Soooo Good – Brisket you can eat with a fork. They start smoking it Thursday. Get there kinda early as it sells out.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 4:10 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

 

 

Hi Marc I’m in Port Louis marina in Saint George


On Jul 21, 2018, at 3:47 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

Where are you staying in Grenada?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

 

Bill thanks for the concern but I am staying in Grenada during hurricane season looking to move north in November.

Hope all is well 

Sincerely 

Courtney 

Trippin 

54 #101

Grenada 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

 

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved to another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.

 


Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.

 

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin

Thanks

Courtney Gorman

Trippin

54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

Courtney Gorman
 


No worries Bill I always appreciate your insight have a great day
Courtney 


On Jul 21, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

OK, I see you said suggestion for the winter...missed that.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:43 PM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill thanks for the concern but I am staying in Grenada during hurricane season looking to move north in November.

Hope all is well 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
Trippin 
54 #101
Grenada 


On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved t o another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin
Thanks
Courtney Gorman
Trippin
54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

Courtney Gorman
 


Hi Marc I’m in Port Louis marina in Saint George


On Jul 21, 2018, at 3:47 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

Where are you staying in Grenada?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

 

Bill thanks for the concern but I am staying in Grenada during hurricane season looking to move north in November.

Hope all is well 

Sincerely 

Courtney 

Trippin 

54 #101

Grenada 


On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

 

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved to another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.

 


Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.

 

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin

Thanks

Courtney Gorman

Trippin

54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

Courtney,

OK, I see you said suggestion for the winter...missed that.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:43 PM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill thanks for the concern but I am staying in Grenada during hurricane season looking to move north in November.

Hope all is well 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
Trippin 
54 #101
Grenada 


On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved t o another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin
Thanks
Courtney Gorman
Trippin
54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

Mark Erdos
 

Courtney,

 

Where are you staying in Grenada?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

 

Bill thanks for the concern but I am staying in Grenada during hurricane season looking to move north in November.

Hope all is well 

Sincerely 

Courtney 

Trippin 

54 #101

Grenada 


On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

 

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

 

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved to another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.

 


Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.

 

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin

Thanks

Courtney Gorman

Trippin

54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

Courtney Gorman
 

Bill thanks for the concern but I am staying in Grenada during hurricane season looking to move north in November.
Hope all is well 
Sincerely 
Courtney 
Trippin 
54 #101
Grenada 


On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtney,

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved to another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin
Thanks
Courtney Gorman
Trippin
54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Steve;

Your battery monitor is calculating the charge percentage. These calculations could easily be erroneous based on several different factors.

Typically AGMs charge at around 28.4 volts and float at 27.2. These voltages vary based on battery temperature if your chargers have temperature feed back from your batteries. A voltage of 25.95 in float sounds low.

The main read out from your monitor that does not involve any calculations, is the amount of amps drawn from your batteries.

I suggest turning off the charger and turning it back on after a few minutes, and let it go through all stages of charging until it has reached float. The batteries should now be at 100% charge if your charger is functioning correctly. Again 25.95V sounds low. 

Once in float, reset your battery monitor to zero Ah and then turn off the charger and use the batteries as you normally would. You should roughly have used about 30% of your total Ah capacity by the time your battery voltage reaches 25 volts. For example if you have 500 Ah total at 24volts, you should see 150 Ah used.

These are very rough guidelines and can vary based on many different conditions. However you should be in the ball park. If you are way off then something is not right. 

I would chase down the smart charging algorithm of your charger. Sometimes they need to have updates in order for them to function correctly. This has happened to us and the update resolved the issues.

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Jul 21, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Steve Bode stevenmbode@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I just purchased new AGM batteries in January. They were working great for months. I kept checking the battery box of heat or smells. Everything looks great. I have a new Sterling ProChargeUltra 30a charger installed. When I replaced the batteries, I set the charger to use the AGM profile. The charger seems to be working fine. When I power it up, it'll read 30a for a while and then float down to about 3-4 amps and eventually I get the float light. For months, I have been checking the original Magnetronic DCC 4000 battery meter to monitor charge. It was telling me the batteries are at 100% and the Ah were close to 400. 

Then, about a month ago, the percentage of charge and the Ah began to read lower. I would check the charger and it would say that it's in float, but the percentage on the meter was dropping every day. 70%, 60%, 50%. My charger has been plugged into the dock for 5 days and the meter reads 40% and the charger is in float. The voltage reads 25.95v. 

Should I panic? Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible that the engine alternator has been overcharging my AGMs? Any advice?


Steve Bode
Sailing Vessel Intention
Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Virgin Island Marinas or other options for leaving boat

 

Courtney,

I like the Virgins and Nanny Cay a lot, like the others, but anywhere in the VI will be a potential loss in another hurricane like IRMA. Trinidad is the safest place, with the ABC's being 2nd.

I found some of the videos of Nanny Cay after IRMA, the last major hurricane. I believe 90% of the boats at Nanny Cay were knocked down and/or dismasted...most were totaled and the "wars" have started with insurance companies. I have a close friend whose boat was knocked down, holed, and dismasted during IRMA at Nanny Cay. He is still paying the monthly yard storage rate even though his boat has been deemed totaled by the insurance company. He also had to pay the charges to have it lifted and moved to another area at Nanny Cay. He is in the process of trying to collect/settle with his insurance company.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all

This winter we would like to base Trippin in the Virgin Islands.  As I still work it's 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of December thru May and I'm looking for a safe economical option to keep Trippin
Thanks
Courtney Gorman
Trippin
54 #101 Grenada


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

Mark Erdos
 

Steve,

 

To start, I think you should turn off the battery charger and let the batteries rest for a couple of hours with no load. Turn off the big red switches at the battery box. Then, take a voltage meter and check the voltage of the bank. If you get 25.6 vdc, there is nothing wrong with your batteries and the problem lies with your battery monitor.

 

Also, I suggest you invest in a battery tester: https://www.amazon.com/Clore-Automotive-BA7-100-1200-Electronic/dp/B0015PI7A4  It is possible you may have one bad battery that is throwing off your monitor.

 

Hope this helps

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] My batteries are dying.

 

 

I just purchased new AGM batteries in January. They were working great for months. I kept checking the battery box of heat or smells. Everything looks great. I have a new Sterling ProChargeUltra 30a charger installed. When I replaced the batteries, I set the charger to use the AGM profile. The charger seems to be working fine. When I power it up, it'll read 30a for a while and then float down to about 3-4 amps and eventually I get the float light. For months, I have been checking the original Magnetronic DCC 4000 battery meter to monitor charge. It was telling me the batteries are at 100% and the Ah were close to 400. 

 

Then, about a month ago, the percentage of charge and the Ah began to read lower. I would check the charger and it would say that it's in float, but the percentage on the meter was dropping every day. 70%, 60%, 50%. My charger has been plugged into the dock for 5 days and the meter reads 40% and the charger is in float. The voltage reads 25.95v. 

 

Should I panic? Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible that the engine alternator has been overcharging my AGMs? Any advice?

 


Steve Bode

Sailing Vessel Intention

Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117

Facebook.com/svIntention

+1 415-710-6659


My batteries are dying.

Steve Bode
 

I just purchased new AGM batteries in January. They were working great for months. I kept checking the battery box of heat or smells. Everything looks great. I have a new Sterling ProChargeUltra 30a charger installed. When I replaced the batteries, I set the charger to use the AGM profile. The charger seems to be working fine. When I power it up, it'll read 30a for a while and then float down to about 3-4 amps and eventually I get the float light. For months, I have been checking the original Magnetronic DCC 4000 battery meter to monitor charge. It was telling me the batteries are at 100% and the Ah were close to 400. 

Then, about a month ago, the percentage of charge and the Ah began to read lower. I would check the charger and it would say that it's in float, but the percentage on the meter was dropping every day. 70%, 60%, 50%. My charger has been plugged into the dock for 5 days and the meter reads 40% and the charger is in float. The voltage reads 25.95v. 

Should I panic? Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible that the engine alternator has been overcharging my AGMs? Any advice?


Steve Bode
Sailing Vessel Intention
Amel Super Maramu 1994 #117
Facebook.com/svIntention
+1 415-710-6659

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