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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ZF25 Transmission Dipstick / Fluid Level

Ryan Meador
 

After reading these ZF transmission threads with great interest, I thought this was an Amel 54 problem, but I've also seen a few posts from folks with Super Maramus, so I went to check mine.  My transmission says HBW 250-3.0R.  According to this manual I found, the HBW 250 is the same as the ZF 25 M.  So I guess this thread does apply to me?  Except none of the numbers you're throwing around make sense -- my dipstick is almost exactly 160mm from the bottom thread on the cap to the mark.  And that manual says I should put 0.75l of fluid in, which seems crazy small and is way less than anyone else in this discussion.  I'm filled to the mark, but looking in the dipstick hole, the transmission is only about half full.  I also don't have an O-ring on the dipstick.

Have I misunderstood the part numbers and this thread actually has nothing to do with me?  Does that manual I found actually apply to my transmission?

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA



On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:11 PM cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Dean,


Hull #69, 2007 A54 has the correct dipstick. I distinctly recall adding 2L per the manual and noticing that it was low, so I added more. No tranny troubles, but I do have that rattle in the throttle you mention.

Do you know if it's possible to replace the filter cover with the updated design? Or does the updated design more about changes to the transmission casing where the filter cover sits?

-Scott

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Run rail maintenance

James Alton
 

Miles,

   The rails on Sueño had quite a bit of oxidation on them after sitting in the sun for years in the Med. before we bought the boat.   We found that a good scrub with Soft Scrub cleaned them up pretty well.  The wife then put a couple coats of wax on them to provide some protection and they came out surprisingly well.  There may be a better product out there to use and if so hopefully someone will let us know.  

Best,

James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Jul 28, 2018, at 4:16 PM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello there
I’ve returned to our older Maramu boat after a period with her ashore in the sun
The rub rails are ‘dusty’ - any rope, hand or shoe that touches them comes off with white power marks 
Does anyone have any advice on how best to maintain the Amel run rails ?
Some sort of clean n seal tricks?

Many thanks in advance

Miles
Maramu #162



Re: Amel Pole Rigging Lines

Miles
 

Hi Gary,

Steve is correct.  Amel used stretchy lines for good reason.  You don’t want a non-stretch line, especially for the fore-guy line.  The original lines are very stretchy.   The forward (blue) line goes from the pole around a block at the bow and back to the cleat in front of the windshield.   If (when) you are rolling down wind and a pole dips into the water, or you try to go more than 40 degrees off dead down wind, the long stretchy line will allow the pole to move back without breaking until the angle to the bow attachment become such that the line pulls the pole back against the side on the rub rail instead of out forward, rather like a big rubber band.  When this happened to me, the pole made a great bang against the side of the boat.  I was sure I had broken something, but there was no damage.  I only had to loosen the line and the pole went back to the proper positon.  This was just one more instance where I saw that Amel did everything for a reason.  

Regards,

Miles  S/Y Ladybug,  sm216, Newport Harbor, RI

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Run rail maintenance

smiles bernard
 

Typo! Rub Rails 😉


On 28 Jul 2018, at 21:16, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello there
I’ve returned to our older Maramu boat after a period with her ashore in the sun
The rub rails are ‘dusty’ - any rope, hand or shoe that touches them comes off with white power marks
Does anyone have any advice on how best to maintain the Amel run rails ?
Some sort of clean n seal tricks?

Many thanks in advance

Miles
Maramu #162


Run rail maintenance

smiles bernard
 

Hello there
I’ve returned to our older Maramu boat after a period with her ashore in the sun
The rub rails are ‘dusty’ - any rope, hand or shoe that touches them comes off with white power marks
Does anyone have any advice on how best to maintain the Amel run rails ?
Some sort of clean n seal tricks?

Many thanks in advance

Miles
Maramu #162

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lights on the 24volt controllpanel

Mark Erdos
 

Arther,

 

These are almost the same size. I put a dab of 5200 on it when I installed new lights and they have worked perfectly:

 

https://www.bluesea.com/products/8171/LED_-_12_24V_DC_Red

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 1:49 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lights on the 24volt controllpanel

 

 

Some of the small red lights in the 24 panel are dead. How do I replace them and where are they to find??

SM 435

Vista

Fair winds
Arthur. Sundqvist

Lights on the 24volt controllpanel

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Some of the small red lights in the 24 panel are dead. How do I replace them and where are they to find??

SM 435

Vista

Fair winds
Arthur. Sundqvist

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan parts in Martinique

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi Paul,
Clipper is the official dealer, but they have very few parts on stock. They asked for 2000 Euros for my new PCB board which I then ordered for a bit over USD 800 from the ONAN dealer in Englewood/FLA. Even with shipping and customs included, it was not half the price of Clipper. Also Clipper said the part would take ca one month to be delivered, I got it within a week from FLA. I had a friend shipping it, not the dealer itself, we declared the value to be USD 200.......as the Martiniquians have a special tax for parts that come from the U.S......

Hope you are doing well,
Alex

On Saturday, July 28, 2018, 9:05:58 AM GMT-4, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Thanks Bill.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Pole Rigging Lines

Stephen Davis
 

Hey Gary,

I’m no expert, but my opinion is that Amel used the stretchy line for a reason, and it probably helps to reduce shock loads on the poles. In the scheme of things, buying some more line is a lot less expensive than breaking a pole. FYI...we have a newer SM2000 on our dock in Hawaii with absentee owners, and it appears they have broken both poles on their trip from California to Hawaii. I have no idea how it happened, but it’s not a pretty sight. 

Good luck getting it all figured out. 

Regards,
Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii

On Jul 28, 2018, at 03:22, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gary,

Imho the boat won't know the difference as the sails and sheets take up any shock load. You don't say which Dyneema you got, but the range of stretch in the various "flavors" actually overlaps with some of the StaSet products. I don't see any problem and pretty is good :-)
Cheers, 
Craig, SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Well .. I made a big and expensive mistake when looking for some lengths of line last week.  I couldn't back out of it because even though I said "StaySet" I touched "Dyneema" and that's what they cut for me. 

I think I know the answer already, but does anyone have an opinion (well .. I know that answer too :) ) on whether safety would be compromised if the Amel Poles were rigged with a non-stretching line?  I'm debating it as it seems the Poles would need some wiggle room to shift stresses, but conversely the sails themselves do a lot of shock absorption.

At any rate, I'm considering rigging the poles with 8mm Dyneema since I have a lot of it now (and it's in pretty colors) and since the original braided lines are getting pretty old.  Thoughts?

Gary W.
SM #209, "Adagio"
Malta


changing cockpit cover installation from old Super Maramu to SM2K

Philipp Sollberger
 

Hi dear Super Maramu Experts,


I think about to change my old installation of the cockpit cover on my SM#124 to the installation on the SM2K.

For this action I asked AMEL in La Rochelle and NV Equipment as well, but unfortunately I didn't get an answer that they could help.

Does anybody has a map with the dimensions of the inox tubes and also where to fix them on the cockpit triangle.


Many thanks for all support!


Philipp

SM#124, Félicie, Bâle


Re: Amel Pole Rigging Lines

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Gary,
Imho the boat won't know the difference as the sails and sheets take up any shock load. You don't say which Dyneema you got, but the range of stretch in the various "flavors" actually overlaps with some of the StaSet products. I don't see any problem and pretty is good :-)
Cheers, 
Craig, SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <gary@...> wrote :

Well .. I made a big and expensive mistake when looking for some lengths of line last week.  I couldn't back out of it because even though I said "StaySet" I touched "Dyneema" and that's what they cut for me. 

I think I know the answer already, but does anyone have an opinion (well .. I know that answer too :) ) on whether safety would be compromised if the Amel Poles were rigged with a non-stretching line?  I'm debating it as it seems the Poles would need some wiggle room to shift stresses, but conversely the sails themselves do a lot of shock absorption.

At any rate, I'm considering rigging the poles with 8mm Dyneema since I have a lot of it now (and it's in pretty colors) and since the original braided lines are getting pretty old.  Thoughts?

Gary W.
SM #209, "Adagio"
Malta


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Pole Rigging Lines

 

Gary,

I do not know the answer, but the original lines were as follows (translated from French, origin: Amel):
(Fore Guy) After blue: diameter 14mm, length 17 m to 11 m mark Tempest
(Aft Guy) Red tip: diameter 14mm, length 9.5 m to 7.35 m mark Tempest
(Down Guy) Yellow tip: diameter 14mm, length 6 m to 4.11 m mark Tempest
(Up Guy) Tan white top: diameter 10mm, length 16m Polyester mark to 12.75 m

The above mentions "Tempest" which I believe refers to a brand of polyester line which may be impossible to find. The above also tells you where to mark the lines.


I hope this helps.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 4:39 AM gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Well .. I made a big and expensive mistake when looking for some lengths of line last week.  I couldn't back out of it because even though I said "StaySet" I touched "Dyneema" and that's what they cut for me. 

I think I know the answer already, but does anyone have an opinion (well .. I know that answer too :) ) on whether safety would be compromised if the Amel Poles were rigged with a non-stretching line?  I'm debating it as it seems the Poles would need some wiggle room to shift stresses, but conversely the sails themselves do a lot of shock absorption.

At any rate, I'm considering rigging the poles with 8mm Dyneema since I have a lot of it now (and it's in pretty colors) and since the original braided lines are getting pretty old.  Thoughts?

Gary W.
SM #209, "Adagio"
Malta


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine tray mounts

James
 


Hi Bill

The tray is in good condition and not rusty, just the forward mounts. They are old and just leaked the oil thats oil I think. Also, raw water pump leak would be enough of an explanation. 

Main reason for the replacement is just to clear up the alignment issues should there be one after realigning. More a preventive measure.

But yes, the tray is fine..

Thanks

James

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan parts in Martinique

ya_fohi
 

Thanks Bill.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine tray mounts

 

James,

A word of very serious caution. If the galvanized engine frame is very rusty, chances are that the engine room was at one time flooded to a level over them. This will have a cascade of events that you may not want to deal with.

In my experience "Cosmetic Clues" are very important to investigate, and in my experience few surveyors get to the bottom of this, rather they suggest painting.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 7:25 AM jamestim@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Hello all


I am about to become the proud owner of a SM2k and one of the first jobs to tackle are the engine tray mounts which are badly rusted and causing misalignment which in turns is causing vibration.


Has anyone been through this before? Any guidance greatly appreciated as well as where to source new mounts.. 


The realignment before and after the replacement seems complicated also, so feedback greatly appreciated.


Thanks to all, this site is such a great resource!! Looking forward to contributing!


James


S.V. TITANIUM - SM2k #260

(coming soon!!)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] xantrex Battery Monitor - high Voltage alarm

 

Ruedi,

There is a set-up mode which permanently changes values. If you are using the set-up mode from your manual, the settings should permanently change. I would use 29 as an alarm. I admit the Xantrex manual is the worse written manual that I have ever attempted to use. You will need much patience! If the high voltage is wrong, maybe some of the other settings are also wrong.

Good Luck

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 5:23 AM Rudolf@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all


Situation:

My xantrex Battery Monitor is coming up with a high Voltage alarm regularly. 


Findings:

In the settings under position F08 I can set the "over voltage alarm" level. Default in the manual say its 16V.

This is for 12V systems. Range can be defined between 10.0 and 35.0V. 

For standard lead acid batterie, I guess an "over voltage setting" for the 24V system over 28.5 is normal. 


Problem: 

I can set the voltage level to 29 or 30V or whatsoever, but after some hours the settings are back to 28.5 and this will release the alarm. I have on Engine the 24V Mastwervolt regulator and Solar panels with a 24V Victron MPPT charge controller. Everything works fine. Batteries nearly all the time full and Voltage over 28.5V.


Anyone has the same observations or any clue how to correct or learn Xantrex to have high voltage over 30V?


Thanks for advice 

Ruedi 

WASABI A-54.#55


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan parts in Martinique

 

The Volvo, Yanmar, Honda dealer is Caraibe Marine. They have 2 shops that are located in the old Marina Building on Boulevard Allegre near Mango Bay Bar and restaurant. One is a chandlery, the other engines. Amel School Clients get a 15% discount.  I seem to remember Onan parts there, but not 100% sure.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:38 PM sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Courtney,

I had though of that, trouble is he's not working until Monday and I need a part asap!

Cheers,
Paul

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Masse Light and March Pump

 

Dean and other Marco Pump users:

The best of the best of Marco single pumps is the UP 14 E. Marco makes a unit which combine 2 of these pumps. It is the UP14 / E-DX 24V double autoclave with electronic control + PCS 92 l / min. You can run both pumps for extra flow or only one pump. The pump switching is electronic. This is more pump than you will ever need, but if you want builtin redundancy and convenience when something goes south, maybe you should consider this one. BTW, Amel School Clients get a 20% discount on all Marco Pumps.

Just a word about Marco. When looking at their website, create an account and login. When you are logged-in, on each pump webpage, you will see additional tabs which include spare parts, service manuals and even some videos for repair and service. When you select your pump, be sure to order the appropriate spare parts which in most cases should include the PTFE gears. The PTFE gears are the heart of the pump. I am told that even though not all Marco Pumps are listed at the US site, you can buy any Marco pump in the US from www.mate-usa.com.

I am really excited about Marco Pumps and hope that the apparent longlife and ease of service built into these pumps will prove to be what I believe it will be.

Good luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 4:54 AM trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill K,
I am interested in installing something like you have, but using two parallel UP3/E pumps for redundancy.
Would you be able to share a bit more about your configuration?
For example, are both pumps powered all the time, or do you power one at a time?
Did you instal a changeover valve in the pipework, or just plumb them in parallel?
If you have them both powered and both plumbed, how do they interact with each other when you open a tap, two taps etc?

I like the idea of having a redundant system, and also the capacity to produce 20+ l/min at 2 bar, which I think it would give me.

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
AMEL 54 #154

Re: Masse Light and March Pump

greatketch@...
 

Dean,

The two Marco UPE2/e pumps in our system are both powered on all the time. There are no change over valves in the system.

They work well together. What typically happens when we open a tap and the water pressure starts to fall is both pumps come on for a second or two, then one takes the job of keeping the pressure in the system. We do not have an accumulator in the system.

None of our basin taps or shower heads flow more than 1 gallon per minute at full flow so in normal use I have never seen both pumps running together. I imagine they might run together if we ran three or four taps wide open at the same time, but that seems a rather artificial situation.

The downside of the UPE2 size is that it runs lower water pressure—down near the minimum considered acceptable for household water supply, about 23psi. We think it’s fine. The UPE3 bumps the pressure up to 36psi/2bar. I think most people would find that completely acceptable.

With this style of pump it is important to have a fairly fine screen on the intake water. This is not so much to protect the pump but it keeps a small bit of debris from jamming in the non-return valve, which is quite small. Not any more problematic than most other pumps, but it is really the only likely place to have a problem.

We have had this installation in full time use for two years, trouble free.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA.

Re: Amel Pole Rigging Lines

James
 


Hi Gary

In the process of buying a SM, and there is no rigging for the poles, in fact they were likely never used! 

Will be keen to hear how the set up goes for you. My guess is 12mm dyneema is more than strong enough, possible oversize somewhat..

Thanks

James 

SV TITANIUM - SM2k #260