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Re: Elongated hole on conical coupling

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

I had included a picture but it is nowhere to be seen, so I attach it again. 


Re: The mistery slick

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

I would like to thank all who responded, but in particular Jeffrey Kaus and Bill Kinney and Trevor Lusty: you were in the right track.  Failed oil cooler.

However, the transmission oil cooler by www.ejbowman.co.uk came out OK....

... the problem was the Yanmar 100 HP turbo's oil cooler.  Had to get a new one for $1606 + VAT (parts only).

To test both oil coolers, they warm them up to 75°C or so and then inject compressed air.  Then they look for air bubbles.

For those with oil in the water but no smoke/engine performance issues, check this first.

Regards,

Peregrinus
SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transmission problem, [1 Attachment]

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Have you check so you don't have anything in the propeller?

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232

Skickat från min iPad

30 juli 2018 kl. 20:07 skrev Anna Eriksson anna@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

There is something wrong in the transmissionbox. Se photo.
And the motor is vibrating more than before it happened. I am now driving on 1800... How sirious is this???
From my wifes telefon
Arthur. Sundqvist
Vista. SM 435








Elongated hole on conical coupling

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

While re-aligning engine to C-Drive, one hole was found elongated. As the part is not available, the Yanmar dealer proposes drilling new holes, which sounds reasonable, but it'd be nice to know if the consensus is that the part will remain strong enough/will continue to have enough metal to absorb whatever heat it is designed to absorb.


Also, what caused this? Thanks in advance,


Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Plastimo water outlet Amel 54

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Wolfgang,

Unfortunately I can’t answer your question as we are not in the boat, but I’m interested in the answer as ours is dripping too!

So maybe another 54 owner can have a quick look inside the cockpit locker to answer your question?

Incidentally we are in Hyères, but you say only your boat is there? We’ll go to the marina to say hi to the Amel bunch, let us know if you need a check on Elyse! 

Thomas
away from 
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curacao



On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 18:10, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello to the group, 
My plastimo wateroutlet in the Cockpit is dripping. Did anyone service this outlet?
I am not on the boat, so I have to know for replacement if it is Plastimo water outlet with straight (62029) or elbow (62030) terminals. 
Thank you very much Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 Hyeres







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety deposit box in aft head of Super maramu

Alan Leslie
 

I would like to know how to take the safe out completely...i don't need it.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Max Prop purchase

Patrick McAneny
 

I have decided to buy a Max Prop and I remember someone asking me to let them know in hopes of perhaps getting a better price. PYI  price for a 22" prop is $3750. Fred at PYI suggested that I contact Fawcett in Annapolis their dealer for a better price . Fawcett discounted it to $3400. I am ready to order it very soon , if anyone is interest in buying a Max prop, let me know and I will ask for a better price , but would not expect too much.

Thanks,

Pat


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transmission problem, [1 Attachment]

Bob Grey
 

Arthur, check your engine mounts, cdrive mounts and engine bed mounts as if the nuts are loose, you get bad vibration, 
note it’s the nut under the beam that comes loose not the nylon nut you see. I also had an engine bed frame stud snap once which caused vibration.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018, 05:02, Anna Eriksson anna@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 
[Attachment(s) from Anna Eriksson included below]

There is something wrong in the transmissionbox. Se photo.
And the motor is vibrating more than before it happened. I am now driving on 1800... How sirious is this???
From my wifes telefon
Arthur. Sundqvist
Vista. SM 435








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Transmission problem, [1 Attachment]

 

Are the brake pads on the shaft brake touching the disk?


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 14:07 Anna Eriksson anna@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from Anna Eriksson included below]

There is something wrong in the transmissionbox. Se photo.
And the motor is vibrating more than before it happened. I am now driving on 1800... How sirious is this???
From my wifes telefon
Arthur. Sundqvist
Vista. SM 435








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] halyard engine lift for engine removal and replacement

 

Thanks, I appreciate it. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 10:54 sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

Katherine and I have removed our engine (and generator) many times (like 6 or 8) with the boat's rigging very safely and without incident. Takes a few hours but is very straightforward. 

We start by removing the engine room hatch cover, then disconnect all engine connections, shaft coupling and engine mounts. About 3 hours to do this.

Next we put shackles on the engine's lifting tabs and tie a short stout line between them. This become a lifting "sling" for the halyards and control lines we'll use and those can be slid along the sling to balance the engine. Once the lifting halyard is tensioned it doesn't slip.

Now we rig lifting line #1 by removing the main sheet from it's tang on the mizzen and running another line from the engine sling, up to the tang, over to the genoa sheet turning block and then to the genoa winch. (We actually use the tail end of the genoa sheet for this - plenty strong.)

Now we rig lifting line #2 using the balooner halyard. Run it aft by putting it in front of the topping lift winch, or just use a snatch block made fast anywhere in front of the mast. Then create a "fair" lead to the engine by using another snatch block on the foc d'artimon halyard. You can also supplement that with a snatch block from the main boom. And, for real "belts and suspenders" we sometimes add the engine lifting halyard.

Next we rig an athwartships control line from the sling to the other genoa winch. 

Now you just orchestrate a coordinated lift - it helps to have a third person if available. Lifting lines #1 and #2 give you precise fore and aft control and the athwartships line controls right and left. You can also easily nudge the engine a bit as it comes up.  As it comes up we stop frequently and snug up the extra halyard so we've always got redundancy.

This is simply how we usually do it - as you get into it you may well need to create variations that may work better for you - there's no strict formula.  Just keep at least two lines carrying the weight of the engine. 

We usually just lower the engine onto a cockpit seat to do our repair work, but when we do remove it from the boat we like to use the main halyard over the boom end, with another safety.  That's a pain because you have to lower the sail, and you can use the balooner cleverly snatched forward to let it go aft without chafing the mast.

Enjoy - this ranks right up there with fun Amel projects and your dockmates will be green with envy ... or call the mental health professionals to intercede.

Cheers,
Craig and Katherine Briggs, SN68, Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :



Well i read the horror story of a SM owner who almost sunk his boat while lifting his engine with a stretchy line to replace the silent blocks. Was only saved by the quick reaction of the people of the marina he was in. 

In French, but worth a read, if only for the entertainment as it’s quite well written

See 1er Janvier in

Enjoy,

Thomas, 
away from
GARULFO
A54-122
Curaçao 



On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 01:37, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have an Amel School Client that I would like to get some "firsthand" information for.

He is going to be repowering his 54. He is interested in discussing all of the necessary rigging that was utilized if you removed your engine with a halyard.

I apologize for being in the middle of this discussion, but my client is going to be out of reach for about two weeks.

If you have firsthand knowledge of utilizing a halyard to remove an engine, I would like to hear from you. If you prefer direct email, bill"at"amelschool.com

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


Transmission problem,

Anna Eriksson
 

There is something wrong in the transmissionbox. Se photo.
And the motor is vibrating more than before it happened. I am now driving on 1800... How sirious is this???
From my wifes telefon
Arthur. Sundqvist
Vista. SM 435


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety deposit box in aft head of Super maramu

Patrick McAneny
 

Graham, I wanted to remove our safe and could not risk the damage and left it in. The key had broken off in it, finally i was able to extract it , glue it together and gently opened the safe. I leave it ajar , because if I lock it and the key breaks ,some big thug someday will not believe that I can't open it, and will beat me to senseless , not a long road. I would feel safer without the safe in full view. I know a thief will not take the time removing it that I would and would not be too concerned about scratching my woodwork , unless of course he was an unusually considerate thief. If you figure how to remove it ,please let me know . I would rather have the storage and hide my stuff in one of the thousands of places on the boat.
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: crwggb@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2018 9:02 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety deposit box in aft head of Super maramu

 
The lock on the safe of my 1995 SM no 140 has jammed, fortunately whilst open. My plan was just to take the whole thing out and buy a new one. However, on looking at the hole through which the box needs to be retrieved, it would appear to be some what smaller than the safe itself.

Before I waste a lot of time has any one got any practical experience of removing a safe from the rear heads on a Super Maramu, and any practical tips....like remove the front panel to all the shelving?

I await any comments,

Graham 
SM140 SULA
Hong Kong


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] halyard engine lift for engine removal and replacement

Craig Briggs
 

Bill,
Katherine and I have removed our engine (and generator) many times (like 6 or 8) with the boat's rigging very safely and without incident. Takes a few hours but is very straightforward. 

We start by removing the engine room hatch cover, then disconnect all engine connections, shaft coupling and engine mounts. About 3 hours to do this.

Next we put shackles on the engine's lifting tabs and tie a short stout line between them. This become a lifting "sling" for the halyards and control lines we'll use and those can be slid along the sling to balance the engine. Once the lifting halyard is tensioned it doesn't slip.

Now we rig lifting line #1 by removing the main sheet from it's tang on the mizzen and running another line from the engine sling, up to the tang, over to the genoa sheet turning block and then to the genoa winch. (We actually use the tail end of the genoa sheet for this - plenty strong.)

Now we rig lifting line #2 using the balooner halyard. Run it aft by putting it in front of the topping lift winch, or just use a snatch block made fast anywhere in front of the mast. Then create a "fair" lead to the engine by using another snatch block on the foc d'artimon halyard. You can also supplement that with a snatch block from the main boom. And, for real "belts and suspenders" we sometimes add the engine lifting halyard.

Next we rig an athwartships control line from the sling to the other genoa winch. 

Now you just orchestrate a coordinated lift - it helps to have a third person if available. Lifting lines #1 and #2 give you precise fore and aft control and the athwartships line controls right and left. You can also easily nudge the engine a bit as it comes up.  As it comes up we stop frequently and snug up the extra halyard so we've always got redundancy.

This is simply how we usually do it - as you get into it you may well need to create variations that may work better for you - there's no strict formula.  Just keep at least two lines carrying the weight of the engine. 

We usually just lower the engine onto a cockpit seat to do our repair work, but when we do remove it from the boat we like to use the main halyard over the boom end, with another safety.  That's a pain because you have to lower the sail, and you can use the balooner cleverly snatched forward to let it go aft without chafing the mast.

Enjoy - this ranks right up there with fun Amel projects and your dockmates will be green with envy ... or call the mental health professionals to intercede.

Cheers,
Craig and Katherine Briggs, SN68, Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <svgarulfo@...> wrote :



Well i read the horror story of a SM owner who almost sunk his boat while lifting his engine with a stretchy line to replace the silent blocks. Was only saved by the quick reaction of the people of the marina he was in. 

In French, but worth a read, if only for the entertainment as it’s quite well written

See 1er Janvier in

Enjoy,

Thomas, 
away from
GARULFO
A54-122
Curaçao 



On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 01:37, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have an Amel School Client that I would like to get some "firsthand" information for.

He is going to be repowering his 54. He is interested in discussing all of the necessary rigging that was utilized if you removed your engine with a halyard.

I apologize for being in the middle of this discussion, but my client is going to be out of reach for about two weeks.

If you have firsthand knowledge of utilizing a halyard to remove an engine, I would like to hear from you. If you prefer direct email, bill"at"amelschool.com

Best,


Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Onan Water Pump

SV Perigee
 

Thanks Bill


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Victron Centaur 24/60 [1 Attachment]

william_maffei@...
 

The charger was the only 220v system that was switched on when the incident occurred. Everything on the boat is working properly right now which leads me to believe this was an isolated incident related to equipment failure. I work with an authorized dealer so I am going to pick his brain soon. Thank you all for the responses. 
Bill Maffei
It's all Good 
SM #195


Safety deposit box in aft head of Super maramu

Graham Boyd
 

The lock on the safe of my 1995 SM no 140 has jammed, fortunately whilst open. My plan was just to take the whole thing out and buy a new one. However, on looking at the hole through which the box needs to be retrieved, it would appear to be some what smaller than the safe itself.


Before I waste a lot of time has any one got any practical experience of removing a safe from the rear heads on a Super Maramu, and any practical tips....like remove the front panel to all the shelving?


I await any comments,


Graham 

SM140 SULA

Hong Kong


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Climma AC, SM

 

Eric,

That comment about the expert engineer was an inside joke between Gary and me...I should have noted that. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018, 19:15 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,

The only issue I can see with mounting the A/C unit “backwards” is that the temperature sensor is mounted on the front of the coil. This might make the sensor think it is sensing  a different temperature than the ambient air in the head .

If I were to have designed  the thermostat setup ,in the aft cabin, I would put the thermostat in the cabin with an electronic sensor attached, and not in the head. I did this when I installed my Dometic A/C unit.

With the old unit the head was always warmer than the aft cabin. Now the aft cabin is at the correct temperature.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 7:52 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Climma AC, SM

 

 

Gary,

 

I am sure that you already solved this issue because when something is not right on your SM, you always make it right. However, I need to tell you that I remember meeting a guy who once owned a SM. In fact he was a super-duper engineer that invented the turbine propulsion that makes Navy subs run silent. He also invented the nuclear aircraft carrier turbines that cause the carrier develop unbelievable speed. I can't write that speed here because it is highly classified.

 

I think this guy told me that he mounted his aft Climma AC in a roundabout orientation to improve the Venturi effect, thus doubling fan output. Maybe he was involved somehow in your SM.😀

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.

 

 

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:20 AM gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Well, here's a question I just need to bounce around.  I need to see if the aft air conditioner on my SM is mounted correctly, or was installed "backwards".  I talked to Bill R. about it, and I am pretty sure I have exactly the right answer, but unfortunately that answer comes with no solution.

 

I have the aft air conditioner out and sitting in the head.  The way it was installed put the air input/cooling fins outboard, kind of against the hull and it is impossible to clean them without detaching the whole unit and sliding it out for access (meaning pulling out the head). 

 

Looking over the situation, it would be pretty easy to re-plumb it and reverse the orientation so that the cooling fins were facing inboard into the head. ~but~ , the exhaust elbow for the blower fan does not appear to be in any way movable as far as I can see.  Makes me wonder if there were right-hand/left-ha nd versions of the eh-9 compact, or if others might have a similar orientation with their units..

 

I'm not sure I want to 'solve' the problem if it's normal.

 

Could someone else with a hull number close (we are 209) take a quick look see and let me know how your unit is oriented? 

 

Thanks,

 

Gary W.

SM 209, "Adagio"

Malta

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Run rail maintenance

Mike Ondra
 

Hello Duane,

Last year we installed the Taco Marine VII-0809 on Aletes after years of nicks in the fiberglass rub rail. I presume your rub rail cross section looks like the attached. The Taco product fit perfectly and was relatively easy to install with the help of YouTube videos. One caveat, there is a small rib on the back of this rubber product that, for our installation, may best to be shaved off to get the rubber to lay flat. See posting #33012.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Run rail maintenance

 

 

Thanks Duane, Alex and James for your help

For now I’ll clean and boat wax as James has done and save the kids from dusty white hands and feet as they clamber aboard in interesting ways 

Really nice to see the new rub rail Alex. Looks cracking!

 

All the best

Miles


On 29 Jul 2018, at 20:19, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com> wrote:

 

I really don't like the Amel rub rail (one of my few complaints), and rubbing on a pile and you've damaged the gel coat.

 

So, I'm thinking of adding a rubber extrusion to the rub rail.  Mate USA sells a track you would screw into the current rub rail where the white stripe is.  Then you would press on the "Soft Insert".  I ordered a 6.5 foot section of the track (one piece) and a one-foot section of the vinyl insert for a test fit and it's a close thing whether they would fit or not.  Next time I'm somewhere for a month I plan on ordering a longer section of each to install to see how it fits around the curves.

 

The vinyl rubrail is ordered to length so there are no splices and it also has end sections. The track comes in 6.5foot sections.  If you want to look it up it's Item T130-141-006-2 (Rigid Track) and T130-141-007-W

 

I've seen several SM's with a stainless bead screwed to the Amel rub rail, but I don't like the look.

 

Has anyone done something else to protect the gel coated "rub rail"?  

 

The other way of handling the dings I suppose is to just paint every few years.  The white stripe is just auto detail tape according to the fiberglass guy who did some repair work for us.

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Suggested Marco Pumps

 

I
n the middle of our discussion thread, MARCO has discontinued the UP 6 and UP 12 with accumulator tanks. They may still be available in Europe, but are not available in the US.

I
received the following from Marco today:
"The UP12/A and the UP6/A are now discontinued …we supply only the UP6/E and the UP12/E with no accumulator tanks required. Please update that on your file, as we only keep the UP6/E and UP12/E in stock in Florida.
"
The updated suggestions are:
BESTUP14/E Electronic water pressure pump 12.2 gpm Part N 16469015
GOOD: UP12/E UP12 / E Autoclave with electronic control 36 l / min Part N 16468113  Price in EU 528.52€
OK: UP6/E UP6 / E Autoclave with electronic control 26 l / min Part N  16462213 Price in EU 402.79€

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] halyard engine lift for engine removal and replacement

Sv Garulfo
 



Well i read the horror story of a SM owner who almost sunk his boat while lifting his engine with a stretchy line to replace the silent blocks. Was only saved by the quick reaction of the people of the marina he was in. 

In French, but worth a read, if only for the entertainment as it’s quite well written

See 1er Janvier in


Enjoy,

Thomas, 
away from
GARULFO
A54-122
Curaçao 



On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 01:37, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have an Amel School Client that I would like to get some "firsthand" information for.

He is going to be repowering his 54. He is interested in discussing all of the necessary rigging that was utilized if you removed your engine with a halyard.

I apologize for being in the middle of this discussion, but my client is going to be out of reach for about two weeks.

If you have firsthand knowledge of utilizing a halyard to remove an engine, I would like to hear from you. If you prefer direct email, bill"at"amelschool.com

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.

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