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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Running Rigging

greatketch@...
 


Ryan,

The logic applies, in that the line size needs to match the drive wheel.  My genoa car control lines are 10mm. The line drives have an Amel logo on them, so I assume they are a custom design. The 10 mm lines seem to work well.  Occasionally they slip under very high loads, but that seems to do with needing tension adjustment rather than being the wrong size.  If anyone has used larger line in this application and been happy with the result, I'd love to hear it.

These control lines need to be very tight, and very low stretch, to work.  As the sheet loads up, it pushes the car back toward the line drive.  If there is ANY slack, the line unloads from the drive wheel and  the car then "adjusts itself" aft.

I have had no reason to change from 10mm at this time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :

That's an excellent tip, Bill.  Do you know if the same logic applies to the genoa car controls?  Those things appear to be unique to Amel, but they are the same basic design as the Andersen.

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:50 PM greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On any lines working with an Andersen Line Tender you'll need to follow Andersen's insistance



and use 12 mm line. This is the mainsail outhaul line, and the mainsail traveler line.

The story is that the 10 mm line used by Amel was bigger and better than everybody else's 10 mm line.  But whatever the cause, in my experience, if you go to your local chandlery and buy 10 mm line as specified in the Amel documents, it WILL slip under load.
 
I installed one of these Andersen Line Tenders as part of my mizzen traveler upgrade.  (one of the best things I did to the boat!) https://fetchinketch.net/boat-projects/mizzen-traveler/ When I first installed it I used 10mm lines because that is what Amel documents specified for the identical application on the main traveller...  they didn't work. When I actually measured the main traveller lines, they were 12 mm OD not 10mm.  Swapping up to 12 mm line solved the issue.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Thanks, Miles.  I hope you’re having a good Summer.

  I think I have a good picture of the manual furling rig in my mind.  Makes sense to use the same line as the one to drop the main sail.  Do you know if it’s 10 mm? 12mm?

The lists of SM rigging already have lines listed for the outhaul and traveler and jib car lines.  Yes, same material, but I guess 12mm may be what’s recommended now instead of 10mm.  So the “Tack Line” is listed as something different.  Still trying to guess what they’re talking about.

I’ll post pics of everything when the upfit is complete.

Hi to Carol.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Running Rigging

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill.

I like your mizzen traveler set up. I wish it would move from my nice to have list. Trouble is all on the must have list gets priority.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 09 August 2018 at 03:11 "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

On any lines working with an Andersen Line Tender you'll need to follow Andersen's insistance



and use 12 mm line. This is the mainsail outhaul line, and the mainsail traveler line.

The story is that the 10 mm line used by Amel was bigger and better than everybody else's 10 mm line.  But whatever the cause, in my experience, if you go to your local chandlery and buy 10 mm line as specified in the Amel documents, it WILL slip under load.
 
I installed one of these Andersen Line Tenders as part of my mizzen traveler upgrade.  (one of the best things I did to the boat!)  https://fetchinketch.net/boat-projects/mizzen-traveler/ When I first installed it I used 10mm lines because that is what Amel documents specified for the identical application on the main traveller...  they didn't work. When I actually measured the main traveller lines, they were 12 mm OD not 10mm.  Swapping up to 12 mm line solved the issue.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Thanks, Miles.  I hope you’re having a good Summer.

  I think I have a good picture of the manual furling rig in my mind.  Makes sense to use the same line as the one to drop the main sail.  Do you know if it’s 10 mm? 12mm?

The lists of SM rigging already have lines listed for the outhaul and traveler and jib car lines.  Yes, same material, but I guess 12mm may be what’s recommended now instead of 10mm.  So the “Tack Line” is listed as something different.  Still trying to guess what they’re talking about.

I’ll post pics of everything when the upfit is complete.

Hi to Carol.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



 

 


 


 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] changing cockpit cover installation from old Super Maramu to SM2K

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi, I originally had them done in Ft Lauderdale in 2009. I had them re done in Auckland NZ and at the same time had all the Amel originals replaced as they had come to the end of their life. Any competent canvas tradesman could do them.

I posted photos on the site in 2009 and I guess they are still there.

One thing to consider if you are replacing the Amel part. Anyone over 5'10" finds it a bit low. If you look you will see two of the  frames are sloping aft and the front one forward. Moving them towards upright (note I say towards, meaning an appropriate distance). can increase headroom significantly. Be sure to put a clear panel (with a zip over internal cover) between the dodger and the front frame. This increases forward view and view of the sails startlingly. 

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 August 2018 at 09:18 "James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny - I am interested to know where you had your cockpit enclosure made.  I would like to do something similar for my SM #347.   


Thanks,
James
Soteria 
SM347
On Aug 8, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sounds great Kent. You must be getting close to your Pacific adventure. You are going to be blown away (as in the mind, not the boat) when you experience the variety of the Pacific islands.

Cheers

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 August 2018 at 01:45 "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Agreed, Danny.

I have a full cockpit enclosure, but it’s getting very tired after 10 years.  I can’t stand up in the cockpit without bending over a bit.

I’m removing the old cockpit cover and installing a new frame that attaches to the dodger and both mizzen shrouds on each side to cover the whole cockpit..  It will have a full cockpit enclosure, and I’ll be able to stand up and see all around with the “Bimini” up all the time and with the full enclosure in place.  I’m adding two more flexible solar panels on this as well.  It will have two large “windows” that allow viewing the sails, with covers to keep the sun out when not in use.  I’m also making a full sunscreen enclosure that will help with insects as well.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Hi Kent,

I'm not sure what you mean by a bimini type top but I offer this anyway. I think the most valuable addition to Ocean Pearl was the full cockpit enclosure, from the windscreen to behind the mizzen. Obviously we used the existing Amel bars and covers and attached to them.

In 47000 miles (I clicked over 47000 today) sailing we have never donned wet weather gear.  When sailing down wind in moderate to strong winds and rain, without the rear curtains life would be miserable.

And you most certainly need full front and side protection cause that is where the big sea splashes come in.

While the top from the Amel frame to our "behind mizzen" bar is zip removable we seldom remove it. As are all the side and back curtains The side and rear curtains roll up and down easily. This cover system turns the cockpit into an all weather extension of the cabin. I decided when we were looking for a boat a full cockpit enclosure was non negotiable. I was not going to ask Yvonne to bake to the sun and freeze in the rain for the two years voyage we had planned.(10 years ago)

I'll say again, that cockpit enclosure is invaluable for the increased pleasure it gives.

And those guys and gals in their bimini "unprotected" twin wheel rear helm stations that look so flash in the marinas are wrapped up in wet weather gear and getting wet top and bottom

Kind Regards

Danny


 

 

 


 


 



 


 


 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] changing cockpit cover installation from old Super Maramu to SM2K

James Cromie
 

Danny - I am interested to know where you had your cockpit enclosure made.  I would like to do something similar for my SM #347.   

Thanks,
James
Soteria 
SM347

On Aug 8, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sounds great Kent. You must be getting close to your Pacific adventure. You are going to be blown away (as in the mind, not the boat) when you experience the variety of the Pacific islands.

Cheers

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 August 2018 at 01:45 "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Agreed, Danny.

I have a full cockpit enclosure, but it’s getting very tired after 10 years.  I can’t stand up in the cockpit without bending over a bit.

I’m removing the old cockpit cover and installing a new frame that attaches to the dodger and both mizzen shrouds on each side to cover the whole cockpit..  It will have a full cockpit enclosure, and I’ll be able to stand up and see all around with the “Bimini” up all the time and with the full enclosure in place.  I’m adding two more flexible solar panels on this as well.  It will have two large “windows” that allow viewing the sails, with covers to keep the sun out when not in use.  I’m also making a full sunscreen enclosure that will help with insects as well.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Hi Kent,

I'm not sure what you mean by a bimini type top but I offer this anyway. I think the most valuable addition to Ocean Pearl was the full cockpit enclosure, from the windscreen to behind the mizzen. Obviously we used the existing Amel bars and covers and attached to them.

In 47000 miles (I clicked over 47000 today) sailing we have never donned wet weather gear.  When sailing down wind in moderate to strong winds and rain, without the rear curtains life would be miserable.

And you most certainly need full front and side protection cause that is where the big sea splashes come in.

While the top from the Amel frame to our "behind mizzen" bar is zip removable we seldom remove it. As are all the side and back curtains The side and rear curtains roll up and down easily. This cover system turns the cockpit into an all weather extension of the cabin. I decided when we were looking for a boat a full cockpit enclosure was non negotiable. I was not going to ask Yvonne to bake to the sun and freeze in the rain for the two years voyage we had planned.(10 years ago)

I'll say again, that cockpit enclosure is invaluable for the increased pleasure it gives.

And those guys and gals in their bimini "unprotected" twin wheel rear helm stations that look so flash in the marinas are wrapped up in wet weather gear and getting wet top and bottom

Kind Regards

Danny


 

 


 


 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Running Rigging

Ryan Meador
 

That's an excellent tip, Bill.  Do you know if the same logic applies to the genoa car controls?  Those things appear to be unique to Amel, but they are the same basic design as the Andersen.

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:50 PM greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On any lines working with an Andersen Line Tender you'll need to follow Andersen's insistance



and use 12 mm line. This is the mainsail outhaul line, and the mainsail traveler line.

The story is that the 10 mm line used by Amel was bigger and better than everybody else's 10 mm line.  But whatever the cause, in my experience, if you go to your local chandlery and buy 10 mm line as specified in the Amel documents, it WILL slip under load.
 
I installed one of these Andersen Line Tenders as part of my mizzen traveler upgrade.  (one of the best things I did to the boat!) https://fetchinketch.net/boat-projects/mizzen-traveler/ When I first installed it I used 10mm lines because that is what Amel documents specified for the identical application on the main traveller...  they didn't work. When I actually measured the main traveller lines, they were 12 mm OD not 10mm.  Swapping up to 12 mm line solved the issue.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Thanks, Miles.  I hope you’re having a good Summer.

  I think I have a good picture of the manual furling rig in my mind.  Makes sense to use the same line as the one to drop the main sail.  Do you know if it’s 10 mm? 12mm?

The lists of SM rigging already have lines listed for the outhaul and traveler and jib car lines.  Yes, same material, but I guess 12mm may be what’s recommended now instead of 10mm.  So the “Tack Line” is listed as something different.  Still trying to guess what they’re talking about.

I’ll post pics of everything when the upfit is complete.

Hi to Carol.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Re: changing cockpit cover installation from old Super Maramu to SM2K

philipp.sollberger@...
 


Hi Kent,

Many thanks for your offer. That's a great service!

With some pictures and the measurement it will help me already totally for my changing cockpit cover project.

Philipp
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] changing cockpit cover installation from old Super Maramu to SM2K

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Sounds great Kent. You must be getting close to your Pacific adventure. You are going to be blown away (as in the mind, not the boat) when you experience the variety of the Pacific islands.

Cheers

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 August 2018 at 01:45 "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Agreed, Danny.

I have a full cockpit enclosure, but it’s getting very tired after 10 years.  I can’t stand up in the cockpit without bending over a bit.

I’m removing the old cockpit cover and installing a new frame that attaches to the dodger and both mizzen shrouds on each side to cover the whole cockpit..  It will have a full cockpit enclosure, and I’ll be able to stand up and see all around with the “Bimini” up all the time and with the full enclosure in place.  I’m adding two more flexible solar panels on this as well.  It will have two large “windows” that allow viewing the sails, with covers to keep the sun out when not in use.  I’m also making a full sunscreen enclosure that will help with insects as well.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Hi Kent,

I'm not sure what you mean by a bimini type top but I offer this anyway. I think the most valuable addition to Ocean Pearl was the full cockpit enclosure, from the windscreen to behind the mizzen. Obviously we used the existing Amel bars and covers and attached to them.

In 47000 miles (I clicked over 47000 today) sailing we have never donned wet weather gear.  When sailing down wind in moderate to strong winds and rain, without the rear curtains life would be miserable.

And you most certainly need full front and side protection cause that is where the big sea splashes come in.

While the top from the Amel frame to our "behind mizzen" bar is zip removable we seldom remove it. As are all the side and back curtains The side and rear curtains roll up and down easily. This cover system turns the cockpit into an all weather extension of the cabin. I decided when we were looking for a boat a full cockpit enclosure was non negotiable. I was not going to ask Yvonne to bake to the sun and freeze in the rain for the two years voyage we had planned.(10 years ago)

I'll say again, that cockpit enclosure is invaluable for the increased pleasure it gives.

And those guys and gals in their bimini "unprotected" twin wheel rear helm stations that look so flash in the marinas are wrapped up in wet weather gear and getting wet top and bottom

Kind Regards

Danny


 

 


 


 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] changing cockpit cover installation from old Super Maramu to SM2K

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Mark,

the insect screen extras are good but what we needed but never moved from the nice to have to the must have list was sun shades side and back. That setting sun during sundowners is pesky.

Cheers

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl


On 08 August 2018 at 23:48 "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Danny,

 

I had to laugh about you never wearing wet weather gear. We have a similar enclosure setup on Cream Puff. I’m not sure I even know where the wet weather gear is anymore. While we don’t have near as many miles as you, we love the setup and agree the fully enclosed cockpit is invaluable.

 

We also made matching panels with insect screens. They can be easily substituted for the clear panels of the enclosure. These have proven wonderful for two reasons. First, it obviously keeps the bugs out on anchor. Second, they provide shade while letting air circulate the cockpit.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 4:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] changing cockpit cover installation from old Super Maramu to SM2K

 

 

Hi Kent,

I'm not sure what you mean by a bimini type top but I offer this anyway. I think the most valuable addition to Ocean Pearl was the full cockpit enclosure, from the windscreen to behind the mizzen. Obviously we used the existing Amel bars and covers and attached to them.

In 47000 miles (I clicked over 47000 today) sailing we have never donned wet weather gear.  When sailing down wind in moderate to strong winds and rain, without the rear curtains life would be miserable.

And you most certainly need full front and side protection cause that is where the big sea splashes come in.

While the top from the Amel frame to our "behind mizzen" bar is zip removable we seldom remove it. As are all the side and back curtains The side and rear curtains roll up and down easily. This cover system turns the cockpit into an all weather extension of the cabin. I decided when we were looking for a boat a full cockpit enclosure was non negotiable. I was not going to ask Yvonne to bake to the sun and freeze in the rain for the two years voyage we had planned.(10 years ago)

I'll say again, that cockpit enclosure is invaluable for the increased pleasure it gives.

And those guys and gals in their bimini "unprotected" twin wheel rear helm stations that look so flash in the marinas are wrapped up in wet weather gear and getting wet top and bottom

Kind Regards

Danny

On 08 August 2018 at 04:19 "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Philipp,

 

I am going to replace my SM 2K cockpit enclosure with a Bimini type top.  If you want my framework, I will ship it to you at your cost.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243

Currently St Michaels MD USA


On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:01 AM, philipp.sollberger@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi dear Super Maramu Experts,

 

I think about to change my old installation of the cockpit cover on my SM#124 to the installation on the SM2K.

For this action I asked AMEL in La Rochelle and NV Equipment as well, but unfortunately I didn't get an answer that they could help.

Does anybody has a map with the dimensions of the inox tubes and also where to fix them on the cockpit triangle.

 

Many thanks for all support!

 

Philipp

SM#124, Félicie, Bâle

 

 

 


 


 

 


 


 


 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat drain hose blocked

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

On my 53 (hull 422), the fridge hose for the interior drip tray leads under the steps behind the refrigerator; it's the small hose entering the copper fitting that goes to the bilge in the engine room. This pull the hose off and blow into it.......if it's clear (back to the drip tray), your problem is in the fitting........just take a piece of rigid wire and clean out the copper fitting where the hose was attached. Another thing to check is that the hose run from the back of the fridge to the fitting is uniformly downhill........that there is no loop in the hose. That would cause a problem draining as well.

Tom Kleman
SV L'ORIENT
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat drain hose blocked

ya_fohi
 

Thanks to all for your suggestions, I will follow up. In the meantime I just have it draining into a jar in the fridge so no great urgency.

Cheers,
Paul
Paying Amel for parts order-solution

eric freedman
 

Re: SM Running Rigging

Paul Osterberg
 

To get the “ manual” head sail furling to work, one need an continuous line going through a block attached to a heavy duty shock cord ( must be tension on the furling line all the time else it will slip) at the stern of your boat up to the sheeve at the Genua furler I also have a low friction ring attached close to the sheve to make maximum angle that the furling line touches the sheeve .The problem is how do you attached the continuous line and there is a solution to that. Splice a loop of the core of the furling line at each end the just take a Thin dyneema core and tie it together and you have a continuous line that can be taken apart. I also use that to make my Genoa sheet longer when gybing the Genua with booth pools out, but only then to avoid to much rope in the cockpit. I have posted a few photos on how I have arranged the manual furling in the photo section
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] paying Amel for parts order

Craig Briggs
 

Hey, Ryan, just put it on José's card 
Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :

Thank you all for the suggestions.  I guess my problem is unique.  This is not a case of the bank declining the purchase for fraud reasons (i.e. it's in France).  I had expected that, and was prepared for it.  The bank is not declining the purchase; they're never even getting the purchase attempt, so something is going wrong before that point in the process.  The cards were both Visas, for what it's worth.

I sent a wire via Western Union, since I already had an account with them.  I suspect TransferWise would require an extra ACH round-trip to verify my account, which would add about 3 days to the process, but if I was starting from scratch I probably would have gone with them.  Western Union is still slow by wire standards, but it should only take about 3 days total.

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Drawer/cupboard pulls

philipp.sollberger@...
 

Hi Mark,
Hi Mark,

I would like to reserve 
6 handles in alluminium with the plastic black push button inclusive the mechanic plastic box in the back.

Philipp

SV Félicie, Switzerland
SM#124
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Running Rigging

Ryan Meador
 

Earlier this spring I worked up a more complete list of running rigging measurements, heavily drawn on the official list from Amel (both in English and French, as I found some vagueness to the English version). I decided the tack rope was the main traveler control line by cross-referencing the dimensions, material, and color with a line earlier in the table -- I think that section at the bottom is a summary.

I've attached my list for your reference, but I make no guarantees as to correctness.  I have replaced much of my running rigging using this info and so far it has all fit.  One of the major missing pieces is the manual genoa furling line.  It would be very interesting to get confirmation on if that can be done with the main halyard extension.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:16 PM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Miles.  I hope you’re having a good Summer.


  I think I have a good picture of the manual furling rig in my mind.  Makes sense to use the same line as the one to drop the main sail.  Do you know if it’s 10 mm? 12mm?

The lists of SM rigging already have lines listed for the outhaul and traveler and jib car lines.  Yes, same material, but I guess 12mm may be what’s recommended now instead of 10mm.  So the “Tack Line” is listed as something different.  Still trying to guess what they’re talking about.

I’ll post pics of everything when the upfit is complete.

Hi to Carol.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



Hello Kent,

 

The Tack Rope material is what Amel uses for the outhaul on the boom and for the main sheet car traveler.  I think that if you measure them you will find this to be the case.

 

For manually furling the genoa,  my boat came with a black and white line that is also used to attach to the short main halyard for lowering the main sail and to furl the genoa.  For the Genoa, the ends are tied together to make a big loop, then led around the furler to two blocks at the toe rail and back to either the power or small winch and then to a block held by a long bungee to the back big deck cleat.  

 

I hope that this is clear enough to make sense.  If you see it on another boat, it will be clear.

 

I will be interested to hear how your work on the boat turns out.

Regards,

Miles

s/y Ladybug, sm216, Newport, RI
Re: SM Running Rigging

Miles
 

Hi Again Kent,

 

I don’t know the size.  It is not very big.

 

Are you heading south this winter or to somewhere more exciting?

 

Regards,

 

Miles
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] paying Amel for parts order

Ryan Meador
 

Thank you all for the suggestions.  I guess my problem is unique.  This is not a case of the bank declining the purchase for fraud reasons (i.e. it's in France).  I had expected that, and was prepared for it.  The bank is not declining the purchase; they're never even getting the purchase attempt, so something is going wrong before that point in the process.  The cards were both Visas, for what it's worth.

I sent a wire via Western Union, since I already had an account with them.  I suspect TransferWise would require an extra ACH round-trip to verify my account, which would add about 3 days to the process, but if I was starting from scratch I probably would have gone with them.  Western Union is still slow by wire standards, but it should only take about 3 days total.

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA



On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:46 PM Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,

Notify your bank that you will be making purchases in France.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:24 AM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I’ve not had a problem Ryan.  I just give Maud the credit card info and it gets charged.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243



 

Hi all,

I recently placed my first parts order with Amel, and I'm having trouble paying them.  I've given them two different US-based credit cards from different issuers and they say both were declined.  Neither card issuer has any record of an attempted charge, so they can't tell me why they were declined, and this implies the problem is on Amel's end.

Amel also gave me wire instructions, but my bank is not able to send wires.

How do you folks pay for your orders?

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] paying Amel for parts order

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Ryan,

I’ve had a couple of orders in the last few months, and have always paid with my MasterCard with no issues. I suspect your credit card company may not be telling you the whole story. 

Steve Davis
S/V Aloha SM 72

On Aug 8, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

I recently placed my first parts order with Amel, and I'm having trouble paying them.  I've given them two different US-based credit cards from different issuers and they say both were declined.  Neither card issuer has any record of an attempted charge, so they can't tell me why they were declined, and this implies the problem is on Amel's end.

Amel also gave me wire instructions, but my bank is not able to send wires.

How do you folks pay for your orders?

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] paying Amel for parts order

CW Bill Rouse
 

Ryan,

Notify your bank that you will be making purchases in France.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:24 AM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I’ve not had a problem Ryan.  I just give Maud the credit card info and it gets charged.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243



 

Hi all,

I recently placed my first parts order with Amel, and I'm having trouble paying them.  I've given them two different US-based credit cards from different issuers and they say both were declined.  Neither card issuer has any record of an attempted charge, so they can't tell me why they were declined, and this implies the problem is on Amel's end.

Amel also gave me wire instructions, but my bank is not able to send wires.

How do you folks pay for your orders?

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raising the waterline aft on SM

CW Bill Rouse
 

The SM original orange stripe is painted-on gelcoat.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 2:13 AM divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We did the same.

Just raised the antifoul up to the, in our case, red stripe. It is all paint on ours, no vinyl stripping required.
Some have laser lined it and lifted the waterline gradually from bow to stern.
We considered that, but in the end it was quicker and easier just to lift the whole waterline.
Sure its a bit high ate the bow, but so what, NO MORE SCRUBBING !!
It was well worth it
Good luck
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Port Vila
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