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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Dear Robin, John and David, Wow! What a fecund source of info and debate is to be found amongst Amel owners.I always knew we were no ornery bunch of boatowners ! Thanks for all your inputs. I am going to get chapter and verse (in writing!) from the US embassy in London. Armed with the right visas I suspect we will just sail in with the minimum of fuss and wonder why we had had any other concerns.
Cheers, Ian and Judy Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad PS Looks as though cheap fuel is no longer available to yotties in Trini. Per Noonsite.com no fuel at all was available when the authorities recently decided that yachts should not enjoy the subsidised fuel available to Trini residents. However, Don Stollmeyer at Power Boats has sorted out a separate tank on his fuel berth and fuel is available again at international rates--we are still in London so I don't know what those are at the mo. To: amelyachtowners@..._________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/
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B&G problem after changing a new Hydra330 depthsounder
sollbergerp <sollbergerp@...>
Hi all,
I'm an owner of the SANTORIN 104 and we had to change the transducer of the old 330 echolot. After changing the transducer, I got some depth signals. After a standing time of about 4 month in turkish marina, I got neither a depth nor a correct speed on the display. So I think, I have also a problem in the central unit of my B&G. Does anybody know more about B&G and help activities before a rigorous change of the whole installation? I look forward to reading any help. At the moment the yacht is in turkish water and without any depth signal, it is a little bit uncomfortable. Best regards Philipp
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
dlm48@...
I think that is a dumb idea - probably one of the dumbest ideas i have seen on this group.? Why would you tell lies about your last port of call - get caught out doing that and the shit could really start to hit the fan - lets just imagine that the US and other authorities have been watching and monitoring your progress from Cuba to Florida.? Remember the Caribbean into FL is on one of the main drug routes so this is not as unlikely as it would first appear - and then you try and say you were not there.? This is one sure way to get your boat taken apart piece by piece until they dont find what you were not hiding - or get the boat impounded and sold off at auction There was some clown who tried to smuggle in a fair number of Cuban cigars to another Caribbean country.? In fact all he did was just not declare them on board - so he was assumed to be a smuggler - he ended up in jail and lost his boat - dont mess with the authorities be nice friendly totally up front and totally legal.
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From: john martin <symoondog@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:23 pm Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Ian, You will have no problem with Cuba. Keep your zarpe from whatever country you clear out of, tell immigration in Cuba not to keep your zarpe and not to stamp your passport,and when you get to U S tell the authorities you came from the other place. The authorities in Cuba know the problems we have in the US and they will help you,especially since our so called helpful country sent Haiti 5 million dollars for aid after hurricane Hanna and only sent $100, 000 to Cuba. As usual our country tries to win the peoples minds before we win their hearts. When you go there visit a nice hotel and sign up for some first class tours, you will really see Cuba and know why I think its one of the best islands in the Caribbean. John 'Moon dog' sm248 To: amelyachtowners@...: kimberlite@...: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Ian,I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.It had an owner from Chile on board.I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. Imet another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami toHavana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscatethe boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.Fair Winds,EricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite'-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@...[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy JenkinsSent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AMTo: amelyachtowners@...: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entryHi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visitsome former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might bearriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is thereanyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewedby two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating inthe Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hoursnotice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of thelegislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within thesame marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but itwould be interesting to know.We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in tothe US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend aninterview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel ownerout there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad_______________________________________ ___________________Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Searchhttp://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links __________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
john martin <symoondog@...>
Ian, You will have no problem with Cuba. Keep your zarpe from whatever country you clear out of, tell immigration in Cuba not to keep your zarpe and not to stamp your passport,and when you get to U S tell the authorities you came from the other place. The authorities in Cuba know the problems we have in the US and they will help you,especially since our so called helpful country sent Haiti 5 million dollars for aid after hurricane Hanna and only sent $100, 000 to Cuba. As usual our country tries to win the peoples minds before we win their hearts. When you go there visit a nice hotel and sign up for some first class tours, you will really see Cuba and know why I think its one of the best islands in the Caribbean. John 'Moon dog' sm248
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Ian,I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.It had an owner from Chile on board.I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. Imet another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami toHavana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscatethe boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.Fair Winds,EricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite'-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@...[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy JenkinsSent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AMTo: amelyachtowners@...: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entryHi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visitsome former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might bearriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is thereanyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewedby two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating inthe Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hoursnotice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of thelegislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within thesame marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but itwould be interesting to know.We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in tothe US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend aninterview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel ownerout there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad__________________________________________________________Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Searchhttp://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links
_________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
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Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Cutlass bearing replacements
Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
As far as i know, cutlass bearings are lubrified, at least on my boats, by the water penetrating in the grooves.
 The real work is prying them out!  Serge, Mango #51 --- En date de : Mar, 16.9.08, Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@...> a écrit : De: Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@...> Objet: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cutlass bearing replacements À: amelyachtowners@... Date: mardi 16 Septembre 2008, 15 h 30 Dear Group I have replaced my Amel cutlass bearing many times using factory replacement parts and must do so again later this month----has anyone located seals that are better then those used by the factory or designed an improved brass housing that will extend bearing life ??? Also I would be interested in recommendations for a bearing grease----lithium grease is what I now use----any better ideas?? Best Jim Dernehl PAO-SAN # 88 <http://geo.yahoo. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=5036225/ grpspId=17050657 92/m sgId=4184/stime= 1221413285/ nc1=1/nc2= 2/nc3=3> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________________________ Obtenez l'adresse qu'il vous faut : @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Obtenez votre nouvelle adresse maintenant à http://cf.new.mail.yahoo.com/addresses. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Cutlass bearing replacements
Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@...>
Dear Group
I have replaced my Amel cutlass bearing many times using factory replacement parts and must do so again later this month----has anyone located seals that are better then those used by the factory or designed an improved brass housing that will extend bearing life ??? Also I would be interested in recommendations for a bearing grease----lithium grease is what I now use----any better ideas?? Best Jim Dernehl PAO-SAN # 88 <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=5036225/grpspId=1705065792/m sgId=4184/stime=1221413285/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
dlm48@...
Thanks for that Robin,
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Going into - transiting - Washington DC they 'the Agriculture people' even confiscated six tins of Haggis HELLLLLP surly not WMD's Also since 911 now that they have? the fingerprint and eye recognition sensors and i SUSPECT better software and database access the HS people are much nicer and much more 'human'. Sadly they dont seem to all sing from the same hymn book but they are for sure getting better. regards David
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From: Robin Cooter <robincooter@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 4:45 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry David's comments re entry from Cuba are essentially correct.?? American citizens are not banned from visiting Cuba,? They are banned from spending money in Cuba and it is the IRS that gives them hassle and threatens prosecutions.?? All this nonsence could change if the Democrats get into the White House at the elections!??? We entered (U.K. registered boat with U.K. citizens on board) at Key West twice from Havana and there was no problem from Immigration or Customs.? Agriculture were waiting on the dock at 03.00 to check us in and removed all fresh, Cuban,?food from the boat - rubber gloves and sealed plastic sacks!?? ( My wife thought he was the dock hand and threw him lines, which, in fairness he tied up, but then didn't go away.?? Then we found out he was from Agriculture!) ? To come in by sea we needed a "10 year multiple entry visa".?? When you arrive you are given the appropriate slip which you hang onto for grim death and hand in, or post back, (this may have changed.) when you leave the country.?? Most Americans dislike their immigration / HS as much as foreigners but with 3 entries by boat and 1 by air, as well as checking in regularly for the?11 months?that we were in the States?we didn't have the slighest problem and found everybody we dealt with to be pleasant and professional - maybe we were exceptionally lucky! ? Robin Cooter Santorin 004 - Belouga --- On Mon, 15/9/08, dlm48@... <dlm48@...> wrote: From: dlm48@... <dlm48@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Monday, 15 September, 2008, 10:06 AM Sorry folks but that is BOLLOCKS.... ......... ..clearing into the USA you MUST put in your last port of call? if you put Havana that would i am told be somewhat problematic (HEARSAY) however? visiting Cuba resulting in confiscating the boat i think not. It is NOT illegal visit Cuba or to sail from Cuba to the USA? however US folks are 'i think' still banned 'officially' from visiting Cuba - not that it stops them from going. I have some 'interesting locations/entry stamps' in my passport and 'occasionally' i do get questioned as to why i went there but this is i think just nosiness by the HS person at the desk it has never resulted in anything other than a few friendly questions. Sadly i think when Fidel dies all this will change and America will be in Cuba by the thousands bringing 'democracy and capitalism' to free the Cubans. This will have nothing to do with finding another market for America so close to home of course.? So if you can go there go now. Yes it will be more difficult cruising Cuba than the rest of the Caribbean but from what i have heard totally worth the hassle. BUT back to Clearing IN and OUT of the USA. Clearing INTO the USA you fill out three forms -? one of the forms the smaller of the three - is white for US visa holders and is green for UK non visa holders ( the tear off part of the green form is your Visa Waver) and others who qualify under the visa waver agreement AND who are arriving on a commercial carrier - this form both white and green versions has a tear off part that you get fixed into your passport - typically stapled onto a page in your passport - the other form is a customs declaration and is about any goods you are carrying (or not) and are importing into the USA? - and? finally the biggest form is about the boat and people on board including last port of call. Once you have cleared IN and cleared customs the only bit of paper you retain is the tear off part of form one and a stamp in your passport of course. Clearing OUT - you simply turn up - say you are clearing out - present the passport - they remove the tear off part of form one - and you sail away........ ......... ...you do not fill out any forms that say anything about intended destination - so again confiscation of the boat is rubbish.? regards David -----Original Message----- From: eric <kimberlite@optonlin e.net> To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 7:20 pm Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Ian, I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington. It had an owner from Chile on board. I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. I met another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami to Havana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscate the boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite ' -----Original Message----- From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Search http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 111354033/ direct/01/ ------------ --------- --------- ------ Yahoo! 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
David's comments re entry from Cuba are essentially correct.  American citizens are not banned from visiting Cuba, They are banned from spending money in Cuba and it is the IRS that gives them hassle and threatens prosecutions.  All this nonsence could change if the Democrats get into the White House at the elections!   We entered (U.K. registered boat with U.K. citizens on board) at Key West twice from Havana and there was no problem from Immigration or Customs. Agriculture were waiting on the dock at 03.00 to check us in and removed all fresh, Cuban, food from the boat - rubber gloves and sealed plastic sacks!  ( My wife thought he was the dock hand and threw him lines, which, in fairness he tied up, but then didn't go away.  Then we found out he was from Agriculture!)
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 To come in by sea we needed a "10 year multiple entry visa".  When you arrive you are given the appropriate slip which you hang onto for grim death and hand in, or post back, (this may have changed.) when you leave the country.  Most Americans dislike their immigration / HS as much as foreigners but with 3 entries by boat and 1 by air, as well as checking in regularly for the 11 months that we were in the States we didn't have the slighest problem and found everybody we dealt with to be pleasant and professional - maybe we were exceptionally lucky!  Robin Cooter Santorin 004 - Belouga
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From: dlm48@... <dlm48@...> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Monday, 15 September, 2008, 10:06 AM Sorry folks but that is BOLLOCKS.... ......... ..clearing into the USA you MUST put in your last port of call? if you put Havana that would i am told be somewhat problematic (HEARSAY) however? visiting Cuba resulting in confiscating the boat i think not. It is NOT illegal visit Cuba or to sail from Cuba to the USA? however US folks are 'i think' still banned 'officially' from visiting Cuba - not that it stops them from going. I have some 'interesting locations/entry stamps' in my passport and 'occasionally' i do get questioned as to why i went there but this is i think just nosiness by the HS person at the desk it has never resulted in anything other than a few friendly questions. Sadly i think when Fidel dies all this will change and America will be in Cuba by the thousands bringing 'democracy and capitalism' to free the Cubans. This will have nothing to do with finding another market for America so close to home of course.? So if you can go there go now. Yes it will be more difficult cruising Cuba than the rest of the Caribbean but from what i have heard totally worth the hassle. BUT back to Clearing IN and OUT of the USA. Clearing INTO the USA you fill out three forms -? one of the forms the smaller of the three - is white for US visa holders and is green for UK non visa holders ( the tear off part of the green form is your Visa Waver) and others who qualify under the visa waver agreement AND who are arriving on a commercial carrier - this form both white and green versions has a tear off part that you get fixed into your passport - typically stapled onto a page in your passport - the other form is a customs declaration and is about any goods you are carrying (or not) and are importing into the USA? - and? finally the biggest form is about the boat and people on board including last port of call. Once you have cleared IN and cleared customs the only bit of paper you retain is the tear off part of form one and a stamp in your passport of course. Clearing OUT - you simply turn up - say you are clearing out - present the passport - they remove the tear off part of form one - and you sail away........ ......... ...you do not fill out any forms that say anything about intended destination - so again confiscation of the boat is rubbish.? regards David -----Original Message----- From: eric <kimberlite@optonlin e.net> To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 7:20 pm Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Ian, I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington. It had an owner from Chile on board. I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. I met another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami to Havana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscate the boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite ' -----Original Message----- From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Search http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 111354033/ direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
dlm48@...
Sorry folks but that is BOLLOCKS...............clearing into the USA you MUST put in your last port of call? if you put Havana that would i am told be somewhat problematic (HEARSAY) however? visiting Cuba resulting in confiscating the boat i think not.
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It is NOT illegal visit Cuba or to sail from Cuba to the USA? however US folks are 'i think' still banned 'officially' from visiting Cuba - not that it stops them from going. I have some 'interesting locations/entry stamps' in my passport and 'occasionally' i do get questioned as to why i went there but this is i think just nosiness by the HS person at the desk it has never resulted in anything other than a few friendly questions. Sadly i think when Fidel dies all this will change and America will be in Cuba by the thousands bringing 'democracy and capitalism' to free the Cubans. This will have nothing to do with finding another market for America so close to home of course.? So if you can go there go now. Yes it will be more difficult cruising Cuba than the rest of the Caribbean but from what i have heard totally worth the hassle. BUT back to Clearing IN and OUT of the USA. Clearing INTO the USA you fill out three forms -? one of the forms the smaller of the three - is white for US visa holders and is green for UK non visa holders ( the tear off part of the green form is your Visa Waver) and others who qualify under the visa waver agreement AND who are arriving on a commercial carrier - this form both white and green versions has a tear off part that you get fixed into your passport - typically stapled onto a page in your passport - the other form is a customs declaration and is about any goods you are carrying (or not) and are importing into the USA? - and? finally the biggest form is about the boat and people on board including last port of call. Once you have cleared IN and cleared customs the only bit of paper you retain is the tear off part of form one and a stamp in your passport of course. Clearing OUT - you simply turn up - say you are clearing out - present the passport - they remove the tear off part of form one - and you sail away....................you do not fill out any forms that say anything about intended destination - so again confiscation of the boat is rubbish.? regards David
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From: eric <kimberlite@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 7:20 pm Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Ian, I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington. It had an owner from Chile on board. I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. I met another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami to Havana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscate the boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite ' -----Original Message----- From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad __________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: US entry
newsgroup@melmar.ch <newsgroup@...>
hi there
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not my own experience (yet) but i know that for dutch and swiss citizens (both also under the visa waiver program [I-94] if flown in by air) you need a special visa (normally 10 years) to enter by sea. i know from a sailing friend that the procedure seems to be straight forward (who would have thought) and can be done in trinidad. call the embassy, they will tell you a website with a form to fill out; you have to pay some amount (must be described there how); then with the filled form and the payment slip you have to call them to get an appointment; show up precisely to the appointment and you'll get your visa. i've been told it works quite well in trinidad! cheers, marc S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89, power boats in trinidad, www.melmar.ch
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To: <amelyachtowners@...> From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@...> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:21:38 +0000 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
dlm48@...
Well your visa waver will NOT DO that is ONLY for commercial entry by boat or plane. We go to the USVI's regularly from the BVI's and we/you do need a Visa - Belfast is the best place in the UK to get one - quite a jumping through hoops process - IF we have friends onboard and we are going in the US and they dont have visas then we get them to enter the US via a ferry then they have a Visa waver alternatively if the arrive in the BVI via the US then they have the visa waver so they are ok to sail with us to the USVI's. Sadly there seems to be no hard and fast rules here regarding the visa waver process SOME HS people say you MUST keep it till you exit the US on your flight home to the UK some say as you exit the US to the BVI's you have to give it up - i am going to get a ruling on this from HS and keep it to show the - you must do it my way HS people. I have heard that coming from Cuba is not such a good idea - sad really as we will be entering from Cuba in a few years time.
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regards David
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From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@...> To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 1:21 pm Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/join (Yahoo! ID required) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Dear Peter, Gianni and Eric, Thank you all for your prompt responses. Great homework!It will be a shame not to share a good cigar with Fidel but I guess a Cuba Libre in South Beach might be the wiser option.
Gianni, I don't know any ports on the S side of Cuba. It is said to be very unspoilt with wonderful diving. I think you should not expect much in the way of easily obtained fresh food.The commodore of the Hemingway marina in Havana is very friendly on email and has offered to help us if we visit.Do buy Nigel Caulder's book--it looks pretty comprehensive. However...we were planning to sail the south side and have been put off by stories that , currently, the Cubans are very strict about the few ports that you are able to visit so we figured that we would just sail the north coast from the BVI's and call in on Havana.I am not entirely surprised to read Eric's warning but being a stubborn lawyer I am going to try to get chapter and verse from the embassy in London just to make sure. Anyway, by the time we get there the new Pres. will no doubt have closed down Guantanamo and all willl be sweetness and light ; alternatively the other new vice Pres will have invaded with her moose rifle ( Bay of Lipstick Pigs?) and we will be flying the Stars and Stripes as our courtesy flag as we approach Hemingway Marina! Watch this space! Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/
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Re: B&G Question
hns154es <hns154@...>
Hello Bill,
Can't help you directly with your specific problem, but got good help in 2007 thru email with B&G support (techsupport@...). Our contact was Mike Sulgen Tel: +44 1794 510042 Fax: +44 1794 518077 Email: mike.sugden@... Web: http://www.bandg.com Good luck, safe sailing and don't forget to visit Kenetu (anchorage 30) ... Regards from Fiji Hanspeter SY "Nathape", SM #158 www.nathape.com
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B & G - complete system without depth transducer
hns154es <hns154@...>
We sell a complete B&G system (year 1996) - without depth transducer -
to the most offering. We are in Fiji, the buyer would have to take on the costs for sending the items. B&G Hydra 2 processor (HPR09514111) - B&G Windcard Hydra 2 (330-00-031) as spare part for the processor Hydra 2 NMEA Display 8 button (FFDN9531109) Analog instruments - 50Kt Windspeed (215-00-22) - 360° Wind (215-00-016) - 12,5Kt Boat speed (215-00-19) - 200m Depth (215-00-025) Sonic speed (SSPD9444101) (184-00-024) Mastshead units Windvane (213-00-002) - 2 x electronic cards (213-10-001) - as spare parts for the windvane With cables and all manuals All items are running and in a good shape. SY "NatHape", SM #158 www.nathape.com, Tel. +679 9183926 Fiji Hanspeter & Nathalie Wehrli
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free berth in Oeiras, Portugal
meridianodez <miguel@...>
I realized that someone may pass along portugal's coast in september.
if that's the case we offer free berth in oeiras for a short stay, nearby lisbon. please email in advance to confirm that our berth is still free by the time you wish. regards, Miguel www.meridiano10.org
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
eric <kimberlite@...>
I should be in St Martin about November 7 or so.
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Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
eric <kimberlite@...>
Ian,
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I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington. It had an owner from Chile on board. I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. I met another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami to Havana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscate the boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite '
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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
Hi Ian and Judy,
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we are italian and we have Fr flag on my SM2K . I had to obtain a 10 years VISA from US consolate in Firenze to enter USVI this year. Our passports, normally valid for turism, are not sufficient to clearance with boat ! Do you know south Cuba ? I'll be there next season . Any suggestions ? Ciao Gianni TESTA s/v EUTIKIA n 428
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From: "Ian & Judy Jenkins" <ianjudyjenkins@...> To: <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know. We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1655 - Release Date: 05/09/2008 19.05
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US entry
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it would be interesting to know.
We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots. All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: B&G Question
Bill,
Can't help you on the B&G issue, but don't miss going over to Mariner's Cave while you're in the Vavau group! Richard SM "Spice"
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