Date   
Faulty Residual Current operated Circuit-Breaker,

Hajo Hille
 

Good morning,

Since four weeks we have a very annoying problem.

We berthed three weeks in Thessaloniki, and after two weeks suddenly the circuit breaker fall down. When we started the generator every 220 V device worked well.

We changed the plug of the electrical wire. But the fault exists still.

Then we call for an electrician. He changed the automatic circuit breaker and the relay which connect the generator or the land power.

So everything was fine and the system works for our stay. Also in our next destination the system works for one week. Now we are in Lesbos and after one day the same fault occurs again.

When I plugged the land power of I measured between the "Blue Pole" and Earth 600 Kilo Ohm.
When I change the polarity of my in meter I measured " - 250 k Ohm ".

Any ideas ? I appreciate every approach.

Kind regards

Hajo
SM 150
Mitilini, Lesbos

Von meinem iPad gesendet


Von meinem iPad gesendet

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rigging

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Heinz,

I was 5 months in Panama and never heard of a rigger in the country.

However, the winds are lighter in the Pacific and if your rig was checked by a good rigger in the recent past, you’ll be ok.

If you need a GREAT one in Tahiti, look for Benoit Parnaudeau.  He used to rig Isabelle Autissier’s boat plus he skippered a Volvo 60 in the RTW solo event a few years back.

Good luck,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera SM 007
Vava’u, TONGA


On 17 Sep 2018, at 04:48, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Heinz

I believe there is only one rigger on the pacific side. A friend on a 55 would not give him a great review. John. john@... would be good to contact. 

I hope you guys are well!!

Porter 
Ibis A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:11 AM, heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hallo all


 

I hope everyone survived the hurricane well.

my Quetzal is currently in Shelter Bay Marina in Panama on the dry one. 

Does anyone know a good Rigger in panama? 

I would like to have my rig checked before I go on to the Pacific. 

I would be grateful for an answer.

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer


SV Quetzal, SM 2000 - 292



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM

John Clark
 

Hi All,
   just to add my little bit.  Our SM #37 was repowered in 2003 with a TAMD22.  At survey with clean fixed  prop and clean hull we got 2750 rpm and 7-8 kts.

Regarding the transmission:  we run with the shifter in neutral all the time so that the prop free spins.  At 4kts or above the prop shaft generator picks up and we are pretty much covers all the load.   I cannot see how running the transmission in neutral would damage the clutches?   It is not the same as running the engine with transmission in neutral?     We have now about 6000nm on the boat without issues.  Previous owners did two circumnavigations on this drive chain.  

                                John
SV Annie SM37
Chaguramus, Trinidad (hoping to leave for Grenada soon!) 

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:45 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi. Tmd 22 full rpm under power is 2800.

Many of us sweated not understanding this. If you get many more revs than this you are likely to have the turbo by pass frozen resulting in excessive boost and if not corrected fatal engine damage.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 16 September 2018 at 00:29 "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Ahmet,

The engine speed for the Volvo TMD22 in a Super Maramu should run close to 3000 RPM at full throttle, with a clean hull and bottom. This should move the boat at 8 knots in calm water.

Most people seem to cruise at between 6 and 7 knots and 2000 to 2500 RPM.

It is important to note that this is slower maximum engine rpm than the specifications published by Volvo. This was a deliberate decision by Amel to have the engine run quieter and last longer.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@...,
I would like to say hello to everybody and thanks for very helpful info sharing here.
I bought my Amel 1999 six mounts ago, My engine Volvo TMD 22, 1999, 2500hours.
I would like to learn what average engine rpm should I see with max power with clean auto prop propeller.
When I was sailing with engine off, still I observed slow turn in drive shaft, is this normal for auto prop properler.

Thanks for your help


Ahmet KİPCAK

 


 


 

Re: Volvo engine RPM

greatketch@...
 

Miles,

The day I get nothing wrong, is the day I say nothing...  

I'll modify my comment and say I know it is correct for fixed props and Maxprops.  I'll defer to Autoprop owners, for procedures with their equipment.

Bill

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM

greatketch@...
 

If the Autoprop can spin the shaft when it is in reverse, that would be a bad thing.  If it never spins when in forward, then that would be the correct position, for sure.

Anytime a prop back drives the shaft with the transmission in gear (F or R) it is wearing the clutches.

For a Maxprop the correct sequence is to stop the engine always in forward, then shift to reverse to be sure the shaft does not spin.  If stopped while turning in reverse, the blades do not feather.  Under normal conditions, if the prop is fully feathered, it will not spin in neutral either.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: Volvo engine RPM

greatketch@...
 

Miles, 

You have the TMD22 engine with the Hurth 250 transmission and no shaft brake?

Bill Kinney

Re: Santorin Manuals?

Derek Smith
 

Hi Ian,

I have downloaded the manuals for the Super Maramu and shall have a read through them.

I do intend to get the ketch version of the Santorin when I find the one.

I am indeed a Scotsman like yourself, I currently live on the east coast of England these days though. 

Thanks for the reply Ian.

Best regards

Del




Re: Volvo engine RPM

Miles
 

Hi Ian,

I think that the instruction depends on the propeller.  The autoprop has the ability to reverse its blades.  My boat also has an original plate but mine says to always put the gear in forward when sailing and to never put it in reverse.

Miles

Ladybug, sm 216, Newport, RI

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Voting from Martinique

Mark Erdos
 

Paul,

 

First and foremost, congratulations on your new Amel. You are going to love it.

 

Anything other than DHL or FedEx coming from the USA is most likely to get lost or can take up to 8 weeks to arrive. Same is true for mail going to the USA. The marina will happily accept packages and mail if you are in the dock or on a mooring. Be sure to include the vessel name on the outside in large print. Also, mark the mail as “documents – no declared value”. It will clear customs faster with this on it.

 

As for any other suggestions on voting – I’m not sure the group would appreciate me going there.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Voting from Martinique

 

 

Hello group.  We will be new SM owners in a couple weeks in the Windward Islands, and will be staying at Le Marin for a while in November, including election day.  We are trying to figure out how we will vote (as it is kinda important right now...).  We have someone collecting our mail in the US and we thought maybe she could send our ballots to us in Martinique and then we would send them back to the US.  Can you Le Marin people tell me how the folks at the marina handle incoming mail like that?   Or any other suggestions about voting?

Thanks,

Paul C.

SM #238

Volvo air filters / diesel filters

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

The local Volvo dealer in Curacao is charging USD 94.00 for an air filter and USD 46.00 for a diesel filter for my DS3-111. Where do you guys stock parts like this and what are the prices that you see in the market in the U.S. or Europe?
fair winds,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
A54-15

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Question about the refrigiration system on an A54

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi all,
I'm running the Flojet 4405-343 pump. It's what I found installed from the former owner. It runs but it gets really hot (can barely touch 5 Sec) Does anyone else have experience with this model or is there any advice from folks who understand electrics better than I do?
Best regards,
Alex
NO STRESS
A54-15
Bonaire

On Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 2:44:30 PM GMT-4, Garulfo sv svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Hello
When we replaced ours earlier this year, were also given the flojet 4105-512 as the exact equivalent of the frigoboat one. ( 12v, maxA & flow).
There are several versions of this pump -4 models tab

Been working fine since. 

Soraya & Thomas
Garulfo 
A54-122
Curacao 






On 3 Sep 2018, at 12:46, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Scott,

Having gone through this earlier this year and after a conversation with Coastal Climate Control in Annapolis, MD, a representative of Frigoboat I believe that the 4105-512 1.6 gpm Flojet pump is the correct pump.  They assured me that the flow rate and 12 volts are correct.  The pump interface takes care of the apparent voltage mismatch. The higher flow rate and increased current draw provided by the 4105-343 is not warranted.

I have the 4105-512 on a very similar Amel, #68.  The refrigeration operates well.  The -512 suffix specifies motor voltage and 3/4" hose barb fittings. 

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54 - 68
Hampton, VA

Voting from Martinique

Paul Cooper
 

Hello group.  We will be new SM owners in a couple weeks in the Windward Islands, and will be staying at Le Marin for a while in November, including election day.  We are trying to figure out how we will vote (as it is kinda important right now...).  We have someone collecting our mail in the US and we thought maybe she could send our ballots to us in Martinique and then we would send them back to the US.  Can you Le Marin people tell me how the folks at the marina handle incoming mail like that?   Or any other suggestions about voting?
Thanks,
Paul C.
SM #238

Re: Volvo engine RPM

Ian
 

Miles
This is an interesting one. Our Santorin has an original plate on it saying not to put transmission in the gear in the direction of travel (in French of course). I believe this is to do with the Hurth gearbox rather than the prop shaft alternator.
Watching responses with interest.
Ian
Ocean zhobo SN96

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin Manuals?

Ian
 

Derek,
Forgot to ask where you’re based. Noticed the haggis bit and UK. I’m a Scottish exile living now in North Wales. Just brought our Santorin back from 4 years in the Caribbean. 
You will now have my email if you want to talk in more detail.

Ian


On 16 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Derek Smith haggismuncheruk@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

Thanks for allowing me to join your group.

I am hoping to purchase a Santorin in the future and was wondering if there was any owners manuals available online that I could download.

Thanks

Derek

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin Manuals?

Ian
 

Derek
Congratulations on your Santorin. A very fine boat. I don’t believe there was ever a Santorin manual. I had a downloaded version of the SM annual which I found invaluable.. you just ignore the sections that the Santorin doesn’t have (dishwasher, washing machine, generator dessalator etc.)  I believe (but willing to be corrected) that most other parts were the same as the SM - sail gearboxes and motors, windlass, bow thruster, C drive, rotary autopilot, ballooner poles and setup and many other things. If true then the Santorin is very well over engineered, which is a great plus.
Anyway, there are one or two original Amel plans on the Yahoo site which are worth downloading.
Otherwise, there are quite a few of us ‘smaller sisters’ on the Amel owners sight always ready with support.
For my part, if you are planning ocean passages - try and acquire the ketch. I never had a ketch before, but very glad I have one now. Extremely versatile for short handed sailing. 
The Santorin is the biggest boat I have owned and is a dream to manoeuvre in and out of a tight space.
Good luck.

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


On 16 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Derek Smith haggismuncheruk@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

Thanks for allowing me to join your group.

I am hoping to purchase a Santorin in the future and was wondering if there was any owners manuals available online that I could download.

Thanks

Derek

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM

ahmet kipcak
 

Thanks all of you,
I was sailing with transmission  in neutral position which caused slow spin of my propeller shaft.
This could damage the clutches inside tranmission.



Ahmet 




INUS - BUSCH inusbusch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> şunları yazdı (16 Eyl 2018 17:14):

 

On my Sharki I have a sign which is fixed in the cockpit besides the gear lever, saying "under sail engine off never put lever forward" in 3 languages. Besides my boat is from 1986 I think this is an original AMEL sign, and I have the Hurth HBW 250-3 gear.

All the best
Dieter
Fal-lera, Sharki #135



Am Sonntag, 16. September 2018, 15:04:40 MESZ hat 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com> Folgendes geschrieben:


 

“The boat should never be sailed with the transmission in FORWARD.  If the shaft spins, (and this depends on the details of the fitted propeller) it will damage the clutches inside the transmission.”

 


This is not true for all Amels. I questioned Amel regarding this because our prop would occasionally spin when in reverse and under sail. I was told by Amel, when cutting the engine power leave the transmission in forward gear. When starting the engine, start it when in forward gear. They said to sail with the transmission in forward and not take it out of gear. This has prevented any further prop spin.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM

 

 

The gearbox attached to the Volvo TMD22 normally is put in REVERSE when sailing.  This locks the shaft from turning.

 

If sailed with the transmission in NEUTRAL, the shaft MIGHT spin, depending on the propeller used, but this will not hurt the transmission.  If you have a shaft alternator fitted, this is how it would be used.

 

The boat should never be sailed with the transmission in FORWARD.  If the shaft spins, (and this depends on the details of the fitted propeller) it will damage the clutches inside the transmission.

 

This applies to the HBW250 transmission, also known as the ZF25M.  

 

The ZF25 hydraulic transmission is a very different beast.  I believe all those on Amels were fitted with shaft brakes.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA



---In amelyachtowners@..., <agav8ter@...> wrote :

When sailing did you have the transmission in gear?  Our Amel ser.# 266 never had any turns while sailing and the transmission in gear.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rigging

Porter McRoberts
 

Heinz
I believe there is only one rigger on the pacific side. A friend on a 55 would not give him a great review. John. john@... would be good to contact. 

I hope you guys are well!!

Porter 
Ibis A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:11 AM, heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hallo all

 

I hope everyone survived the hurricane well.

my Quetzal is currently in Shelter Bay Marina in Panama on the dry one.

Does anyone know a good Rigger in panama?

I would like to have my rig checked before I go on to the Pacific.

I would be grateful for an answer.

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SV Quetzal, SM 2000 - 292

Rigging

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hallo all

 

I hope everyone survived the hurricane well.

my Quetzal is currently in Shelter Bay Marina in Panama on the dry one.

Does anyone know a good Rigger in panama?

I would like to have my rig checked before I go on to the Pacific.

I would be grateful for an answer.

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SV Quetzal, SM2000 - 292

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Same here Miles,

On NIKIMAT SM2K #289, equipped with the Auto Prop H6, there was a plate near the throttle installed by Amel saying while sailing, engine stop, push the throttle in forward gear.

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 9/16/18, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, September 16, 2018, 6:54 AM


 









Hi bill,  You know a lot of things and
I have learned from you, but this time I will disagree.
    My boat came from Amel with
the Autoprop and with specific instructions to always put
the gear in forward when sailing.  This locks the
propeller.  If the transmission is in neutral, the
propeller spins backwards—fast.  The effect of then
moving it into forward is to put a strain on the
transmission clutches that will hurt them.  The procedure
that I was told is to leave the transmission in forward when
stopping the engine and sailing, and to start the engine in
forward if the boat is moving forward, i.e. to never take it
out of gear when moving forward.     This may be unique
instruction for the Autoprop, but it was the instruction
that came with my boat.  I remember being surprised because
in previous boats, I had always been told to keep the
transmission in reverse.   Amel said to not do this
because the propeller spins in reverse when the boat is
moving forward.
 Regards,  Miless/y Ladybug sm216,  Newport,
RI    









#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462 --
#yiv8244714462ygrp-mkp {
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px
0;padding:0 10px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mkp hr {
border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mkp #yiv8244714462hd {
color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px
0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mkp #yiv8244714462ads {
margin-bottom:10px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mkp .yiv8244714462ad {
padding:0 0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mkp .yiv8244714462ad p {
margin:0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mkp .yiv8244714462ad a {
color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}
#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-sponsor
#yiv8244714462ygrp-lc {
font-family:Arial;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-sponsor
#yiv8244714462ygrp-lc #yiv8244714462hd {
margin:10px
0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-sponsor
#yiv8244714462ygrp-lc .yiv8244714462ad {
margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462actions {
font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462activity {
background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462activity span {
font-weight:700;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462activity span:first-child {
text-transform:uppercase;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462activity span a {
color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462activity span span {
color:#ff7900;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462activity span
.yiv8244714462underline {
text-decoration:underline;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462attach {
clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px
0;width:400px;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462attach div a {
text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462attach img {
border:none;padding-right:5px;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462attach label {
display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462attach label a {
text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 blockquote {
margin:0 0 0 4px;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462bold {
font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462bold a {
text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 dd.yiv8244714462last p a {
font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}

#yiv8244714462 dd.yiv8244714462last p span {
margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}

#yiv8244714462 dd.yiv8244714462last p
span.yiv8244714462yshortcuts {
margin-right:0;}

#yiv8244714462 div.yiv8244714462attach-table div div a {
text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 div.yiv8244714462attach-table {
width:400px;}

#yiv8244714462 div.yiv8244714462file-title a, #yiv8244714462
div.yiv8244714462file-title a:active, #yiv8244714462
div.yiv8244714462file-title a:hover, #yiv8244714462
div.yiv8244714462file-title a:visited {
text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 div.yiv8244714462photo-title a,
#yiv8244714462 div.yiv8244714462photo-title a:active,
#yiv8244714462 div.yiv8244714462photo-title a:hover,
#yiv8244714462 div.yiv8244714462photo-title a:visited {
text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 div#yiv8244714462ygrp-mlmsg
#yiv8244714462ygrp-msg p a span.yiv8244714462yshortcuts {
font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462green {
color:#628c2a;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462MsoNormal {
margin:0 0 0 0;}

#yiv8244714462 o {
font-size:0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462photos div {
float:left;width:72px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462photos div div {
border:1px solid
#666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462photos div label {
color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462reco-category {
font-size:77%;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462reco-desc {
font-size:77%;}

#yiv8244714462 .yiv8244714462replbq {
margin:4px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {
margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mlmsg {
font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean,
sans-serif;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mlmsg table {
font-size:inherit;font:100%;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mlmsg select,
#yiv8244714462 input, #yiv8244714462 textarea {
font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv8244714462
code {
font:115% monospace;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mlmsg * {
line-height:1.22em;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-mlmsg #yiv8244714462logo {
padding-bottom:10px;}


#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-msg p a {
font-family:Verdana;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-msg
p#yiv8244714462attach-count span {
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-reco
#yiv8244714462reco-head {
color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-sponsor #yiv8244714462ov
li a {
font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-sponsor #yiv8244714462ov
li {
font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-sponsor #yiv8244714462ov
ul {
margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-text {
font-family:Georgia;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-text p {
margin:0 0 1em 0;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-text tt {
font-size:120%;}

#yiv8244714462 #yiv8244714462ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right:none !important;
}
#yiv8244714462

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM

INUS - BUSCH
 

On my Sharki I have a sign which is fixed in the cockpit besides the gear lever, saying "under sail engine off never put lever forward" in 3 languages. Besides my boat is from 1986 I think this is an original AMEL sign, and I have the Hurth HBW 250-3 gear.

All the best
Dieter
Fal-lera, Sharki #135



Am Sonntag, 16. September 2018, 15:04:40 MESZ hat 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] Folgendes geschrieben:


 

“The boat should never be sailed with the transmission in FORWARD.  If the shaft spins, (and this depends on the details of the fitted propeller) it will damage the clutches inside the transmission.”

 

This is not true for all Amels. I questioned Amel regarding this because our prop would occasionally spin when in reverse and under sail. I was told by Amel, when cutting the engine power leave the transmission in forward gear. When starting the engine, start it when in forward gear. They said to sail with the transmission in forward and not take it out of gear. This has prevented any further prop spin.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvo engine RPM

 

 

The gearbox attached to the Volvo TMD22 normally is put in REVERSE when sailing.  This locks the shaft from turning.

 

If sailed with the transmission in NEUTRAL, the shaft MIGHT spin, depending on the propeller used, but this will not hurt the transmission.  If you have a shaft alternator fitted, this is how it would be used.

 

The boat should never be sailed with the transmission in FORWARD.  If the shaft spins, (and this depends on the details of the fitted propeller) it will damage the clutches inside the transmission.

 

This applies to the HBW250 transmission, also known as the ZF25M.  

 

The ZF25 hydraulic transmission is a very different beast.  I believe all those on Amels were fitted with shaft brakes.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA



---In amelyachtowners@...,

When sailing did you have the transmission in gear?  Our Amel ser.# 266 never had any turns while sailing and the transmission in gear.