Date   
model number of CAT pump on watermaker.

eric freedman
 

Re: Cabin Sole and Floorboard - Padded Mounting/Spacing Tape

greatketch@...
 

Jer.

Not sure exactly what you have on your boat, but we added UHME Polyethylene tape (like this: https://amzn.to/2DgJhFr) to the bottom of our floorboard hatches, primarily to protect the finish of the other parts of the floor as the hatches are moved around.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA

 

Re: Surveyor in France

s90.simon@...
 

Hello
Good sign that everyone agrees about who is the best. I have actually contacted Olivier and got some information from him and a few days when he is available. Hopefully it will be possible to find a day that works for everyone involved when (and if) the time comes for a survey of this boat.

Thank you all for your help.

Best regards
Simon

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor in France

Peter Jaeger
 

Hi Simon
Welcome to the forum
I had Olivier as surveyor for my SM in Sardegna in 2015, a report in perfect english and a list with recommended work combined with a cost estimate as result. Since my boat is in La Rochelle now I consulted him again for special questions.
You can look for alternatives, yes. But why, if you already know the very best? 
Best regards
Peter
SY Wilson, SM 003, La Rochelle

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Am Mittwoch, September 19, 2018, 12:19 schrieb s90.simon@... [amelyachtowners] :

 

Hello

This is my first post in this group and I just want to start by saying hello to everyone. 


I'm planning to buy an Amel Santorin and are currently looking at one located in Vannes. I would appreciate some suggestions for a few different good and competent surveyors that have experience with Amel.


I understand that Olivier Beaute in La Rochelle is considered to be very good but I would like to have some more alternatives. They must be able to speak and present the written report in english.


Best regards 

Simon

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Mizzen Track End Fittings

 

They are not Antal...they are Lewmar Size 1 Simple End Stops.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:35 PM Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The end fittings on my SM2K 414 are made of a plastic type material and
fixed in place by two bolts. They need to be replaced due to UV damage.
I have looked through the Antal catalogue and I don't see such fittings
listed. Maybe they are made by someone else? Does anyone know who makes
these please?

Ian Shepherd

Leros Greece

SM Mizzen Track End Fittings

Ian Shepherd
 

The end fittings on my SM2K 414 are made of a plastic type material and fixed in place by two bolts. They need to be replaced due to UV damage. I have looked through the Antal catalogue and I don't see such fittings listed. Maybe they are made by someone else? Does anyone know who makes these please?

Ian Shepherd

Leros Greece

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Series Drogue Construction Details-from someone that used it

eric freedman
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Basic with double engine water coils

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Then again you may be sure Amel sized the Generator to match the load and by changing the original Amel design to a water heater with two engine water loops the generator will not be loaded optimally. 

As Bill Rouse says, don't try to second guess the original Amel design. 

As Nigel Calder says, generators are usually quite under-loaded making them inefficient and prone to excess wear.

Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN68

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cabin Sole and Floorboard - Padded Mounting/Spacing Tape

 

I believe that the tape was probably added by some other owner, but is Amel installed it, kudus to Amel for finding a foam tape that will last 30+ years.😀

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:23 AM jeremy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Amel Peeps!

Jeremy here from SV Cerulean (Maramu #105), I just put more coats on my cabin sole and floorboards, but my spacing tape/padded tape that seats the floorboards is sadly disintegrating and falling apart.

**IMHO: Appears to be a plastic or silicone single sided sticky tape of some sort.

I went to both west marine and Home Depot and haven’t found a tape that is similar. Before I go on a amazon hunt, wanted to reach out and ask if anyone has recommendations.

Thanks again as always and hope everyone is having a great week!

-Jer
SV Cerulean
Maramu #105

Cabin Sole and Floorboard - Padded Mounting/Spacing Tape

mr_hermanns
 

Hello Amel Peeps!

Jeremy here from SV Cerulean (Maramu #105), I just put more coats on my cabin sole and floorboards, but my spacing tape/padded tape that seats the floorboards is sadly disintegrating and falling apart.

**IMHO: Appears to be a plastic or silicone single sided sticky tape of some sort.

I went to both west marine and Home Depot and haven’t found a tape that is similar. Before I go on a amazon hunt, wanted to reach out and ask if anyone has recommendations.

Thanks again as always and hope everyone is having a great week!

-Jer
SV Cerulean
Maramu #105

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Series Drogue Construction Details-from someone that used it

Porter McRoberts
 

Eric
I just read your account on ocean navigator. 
Wow. What studs: you and Kimberlite!

We have some jakey version of a Drogue: chain and fenders and lots of warp. I’ve been considering one for a long time but now we’re getting a Jordan series drogue. 

Thank you


Porter

Ibis
A54-152


Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Sep 19, 2018, at 11:36 AM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mark,
I would speak with Dave  at ACE sail makers, He worked with Mr. Jordan to develop the drogue.

I have had occasion to use his  drogue twice-once in a hurricane, 100 knots of wind and 60 foot seas. 147 cones is what he recommends and it works. You can buy either complete or a kit from him. I would not use any other source.

I would also buy it complete and not the kit. Would you have a life raft that you built from a kit?


Google -prepare for survival conditions   Ocean navigator.
There is also a link showing the rescue of 3 crew in the water at night. Towards the end you can see in daylight the chopper crew recovering the skippers body and then a little later the chopper almost hits a 100 foot wave.


Fair winds
Eric
SM376 Kimberlite



On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:17 AM, isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hello All-

For those of you that carry a series drogue, what line was used to make it?  At least one company out there offers the drogue made fully or partially from the newer HMPE fibers.  Given the difference in characteristics (stretch and coefficient of friction come to mind)  between these new fibers and the double braid nylon used in the original study, I wonder if this is a good idea and if there are any studies to support this. 

The weight savings with the newer fibers would be substantial.  My concerns are that the cones may slip off or the shock load would cause damage to the boat and/or allow the drogue to break free.

Also, according to the original study, a boat displacing 40,000 pounds will require 160 cones give or take a few.  Several manufacturers of the drogue suggest construction using only 147 cones, but I can't find anything to explain the reduction in number.

Mark Isaac
SM 391, Lulu
South Freeport, Maine



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Basic with double engine water coils

 

Mark,

I was going to do exactly that, but the wrong water heater was shipped and I replaced the water heater with 1 circuit. I would recommend that any SM, 54, 55, etc owner replacing the water heater use the 2 circuit model designed to accept coolant from two seperate engines.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:51 AM mark_pitt@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am planning to replace my 15 year old Isotemp Basic 40 liter hot water heater with a new Basic 40 that has two engine water coils.  The intent is to connect the Onan cooling circuit to the second coil in the Basic hot water heater.  Has anyone done this?  Are there some issues I need to be aware of?  In particular, I am concerned whether the coolant pump on the Onan can deal with the longer hose runs and extra coolant.  Nothing has come up in a Google search.

Thanks.


Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419

Lanzarote, Canary Islands

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Series Drogue Construction Details-from someone that used it

 

Eric,

Yes, I received it twice.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:49 AM eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Wow i sent this over 24 hours ago.





On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:36 PM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Mark,
I would speak with Dave  at ACE sail makers, He worked with Mr. Jordan to develop the drogue.

I have had occasion to use his  drogue twice-once in a hurricane, 100 knots of wind and 60 foot seas. 147 cones is what he recommends and it works. You can buy either complete or a kit from him. I would not use any other source.

I would also buy it complete and not the kit. Would you have a life raft that you built from a kit?


Google -prepare for survival conditions   Ocean navigator.
There is also a link showing the rescue of 3 crew in the water at night. Towards the end you can see in daylight the chopper crew recovering the skippers body and then a little later the chopper almost hits a 100 foot wave.


Fair winds
Eric
SM376 Kimberlite



On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:17 AM, isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hello All-

For those of you that carry a series drogue, what line was used to make it?  At least one company out there offers the drogue made fully or partially from the newer HMPE fibers.  Given the difference in characteristics (stretch and coefficient of friction come to mind)  between these new fibers and the double braid nylon used in the original study, I wonder if this is a good idea and if there are any studies to support this. 

The weight savings with the newer fibers would be substantial.  My concerns are that the cones may slip off or the shock load would cause damage to the boat and/or allow the drogue to break free.

Also, according to the original study, a boat displacing 40,000 pounds will require 160 cones give or take a few.  Several manufacturers of the drogue suggest construction using only 147 cones, but I can't find anything to explain the reduction in number.

Mark Isaac
SM 391, Lulu
South Freeport, Maine



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Barcelona Amel Mechanic

 

Bob,

When in Barcelona at Port Vell, I wanted to get the valve lash adjusted by a professional. In the past, I  had done this job twice. I also wanted to buy a few Yanmar spares. My intention was to have a real pro put his eyes on the engine, after years of a semi-pro working on it (me). I thought maybe he might see something that I missed. I spoke to the area's recommended Yanmar mechanic. 
The Yanmar guy is Eduardo Platero <eduardo@...>
Talleres Platero S.L.
Fastenrath 70. BARCELONA 08035. 
Tel.   +34 93 420 76 45
FAX. +34 93 358 95 33

info@...
www.talleresplatero.com

I basically interviewed him and believed that he was a real pro. We scheduled the service and he agreed to deliver the parts at the time of service. The guy that showed up for the service was completely different and based on his age probably had no more than 2 years experience. So, the semi-pro (me) was his supervisor! 
 
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:01 AM rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Anyone know a mechanic or service in Barcelona that is experienced with Amels?  We are here for about a month and want to check our engine alignment and mounts before setting off across the Atlantic.  We had spent some time docked at Amel Mediterrranee in Hyères but it was a very busy time for them and the mechanic they tend to use was not available.


Bob and Suzanne SM429, KAIMI

Port Vell

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Barcelona Amel Mechanic

amel46met
 

I got Jordi at Evolution Agencies +34 639471108 to get a mechanic to work on my genset he may not know Amels. 
Maramu 125 Aphrodite 
Tom Deasy 


On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:01 AM, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Anyone know a mechanic or service in Barcelona that is experienced with Amels?  We are here for about a month and want to check our engine alignment and mounts before setting off across the Atlantic.  We had spent some time docked at Amel Mediterrranee in Hyères but it was a very busy time for them and the mechanic they tend to use was not available.


Bob and Suzanne SM429, KAIMI

Port Vell

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Series Drogue Construction Details-from someone that used it

Mark Isaac
 

Thanks, Eric.  Your experience and advice is very much appreciated.  Unfortunately, due to the hectic schedule I have been keeping lately, I don't have time to check the forum every day. 

I did speak with Dave at Ace and I believe he knows the series drogue as well as anyone.  However, I didn't get answers I could hang my hat on when I asked him the questions I had about using the newer fiber lines for construction of the drogue.  Maybe this is because there are not yet good answers to those questions.  Maybe there is only anecdotal evidence that changes to the original design work as intended.  That's what makes this and other forums so valuable; we can put our collective expertise and experiences to work on questions that may not yet have solid answers.  This is a particularly good website for those interested:  www.dragdevicedb.com

Mark Isaac
SM391, Lulu
South Freeport, Maine


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor in France

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Olivier speaks and write english without an issue and is the best surveyor for Amel boats I am aware of.  I would not hesitate if you can find a slot in his busy schedule.

Regards,

Redouan Assar
SM349 Stella

On 19 Sep 2018, at 13:19, s90.simon@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hello

This is my first post in this group and I just want to start by saying hello to everyone. 


I'm planning to buy an Amel Santorin and are currently looking at one located in Vannes. I would appreciate some suggestions for a few different good and competent surveyors that have experience with Amel.


I understand that Olivier Beaute in La Rochelle is considered to be very good but I would like to have some more alternatives. They must be able to speak and present the written report in english.


Best regards 

Simon

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Basic with double engine water coils

Mark Erdos
 

Mark,

 

Our water heater is connected to the Onan and the genset has no issue maintaining proper temperature. Using the hot water from the Onan as an energy source makes perfect sense. You have the ability to run additional electrical appliances without the load of the heating element in the water heater.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 7:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Basic with double engine water coils

 

 

I am planning to replace my 15 year old Isotemp Basic 40 liter hot water heater with a new Basic 40 that has two engine water coils.  The intent is to connect the Onan cooling circuit to the second coil in the Basic hot water heater.  Has anyone done this?  Are there some issues I need to be aware of?  In particular, I am concerned whether the coolant pump on the Onan can deal with the longer hose runs and extra coolant.  Nothing has come up in a Google search.

Thanks.

 

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419

Lanzarote, Canary Islands

Re: Surveyor in France

mfmcgovern@...
 

Simon,

Welcome to the group. I am a new-ish Amel owner at just over a year with my SM Cara.  Here is what I wrote on this forum right after I purchased her:

"That leaves Olivier Beaute of Atlantic Yacht Survey (atlanticyachtsurvey.com).  I have employed Olivier on two separate occasions to survey two different Super Maramu's. The first resulted in walking away from a purchase and the second in a purchase.  I am thrilled with both outcomes!  Olivier worked for Amel for ~19 years doing the customer handover and first year support of about 75% of the Super Maramu's made from Hull #70-ish right up until the last one Hull #479. If he surveys your Amel, chances are it is not the first time he has been on it!  And you don't just get a thorough, detailed inspection, and well written report with pictures with Olivier's survey services.  If you attend the survey (and I strongly advise that you do), you will get an education on the boat and it's systems from an outstanding teacher.  For my English speaking friends concerned about communication using a French speaking surveyor, you do not need to be at all concerned.  Olivier's English is excellent. Hire Olivier and you will not be disappointed regardless of the outcome of the survey."

To add to the above, it's over one year later now and Olivier continues to assist me and answer my questions.  In  fact, I now count him as a friend, not just a guy I hired to survey a boat.  Olivier has a truly unique background with Amels and while I am sure that there are other surveyors in the world (and especially France), that are familiar with Amels, none of them will have the depth of his experience and none of them will surpass the outstanding service you will get.  He truly is a unique individual and as a community we are extremely lucky to have him available to us.  

Mark McGovern
SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Isotemp Basic with double engine water coils

Mark Pitt
 

I am planning to replace my 15 year old Isotemp Basic 40 liter hot water heater with a new Basic 40 that has two engine water coils.  The intent is to connect the Onan cooling circuit to the second coil in the Basic hot water heater.  Has anyone done this?  Are there some issues I need to be aware of?  In particular, I am concerned whether the coolant pump on the Onan can deal with the longer hose runs and extra coolant.  Nothing has come up in a Google search.

Thanks.


Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419

Lanzarote, Canary Islands