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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My turn for a "What is this?"

 

Wild guess from me: That is not an Amel original piece of equipment. My conclusion is based on the species of the solid piece of wood, AND, the edge of the plywood was cut with a too coarse of saw blade.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 10:36 AM greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Here is something that we have had buried in a locker since we bought the boat.  Every time I touch it I scratch my head and try to imagine where it might go or be used for.  Well, my imagination has failed me, and I am turning to the Amel Hive Mind...


A piece of plywood with a flange of solid wood along one long edge, with a loop of cord attached.  The wood and plywood are all look like Amel original.  It is not finished to furniture standard, but rather to the standard that Amel used for "hidden" parts.


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

 

Bill,

Furniture refinishers do this quite often. You have to remove the varnish and stain edge to edge because you simply cannot feather-in a repair. It doesn't have to be sanded, most refinishers remove the finish, then sand, restain, then spray a varnish finish. I don't think that I would try to apply finish with a brush, but I know some people do this. Low humidity inside your boat is imperative when applying finish. If you spray the finish, respirator masks and exhaust ventilation should be used. I would consider this a big job and consider hanging (attaching) something on the wall to hide the spot.

HINT TO NEW AMEL OWNERS: Don't hang anything on that beautiful wall as you will have a spot to contend with when you sell your Amel.
 
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 10:25 AM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

On Kristy the veneer on the panels around the port lights is ~1mm thick.  Careful sanding shouldn’t be a problem.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Sep 21, 2018, at 11:11 AM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If anyone repaired sun fading of the interior mahogany, is the fading shallow enough that there is a chance of sanding to fresh wood without going through the veneer?


We have some fading right around the cabin side deadlights.  It would be easy enough to re-veneer if needed... but I am kind of hoping it is I can squeak by without that....

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA



My turn for a "What is this?"

greatketch@...
 

Here is something that we have had buried in a locker since we bought the boat.  Every time I touch it I scratch my head and try to imagine where it might go or be used for.  Well, my imagination has failed me, and I am turning to the Amel Hive Mind...


A piece of plywood with a flange of solid wood along one long edge, with a loop of cord attached.  The wood and plywood are all look like Amel original.  It is not finished to furniture standard, but rather to the standard that Amel used for "hidden" parts.


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,

 

I have done some extensive interior boat reconditioning since I once refitted an old Cheoy Lee. Matching faded teak panels was unfortunately something I became quite good at. There are many products on the market to help do this. My favorites were varnish and polyurethane finishes that contained tint or where tint could be added. With a little bit of patience and mixing, matching the finish with additional top coating can be accomplished.

 

Also, I would not recommend sanding any veneer product to remove the existing finish. A chemical stripper will give much more control and protect the mahogany veneer should you find it necessary to remove the old finish. Hopefully you can get by with a light hand sand and a couple of additional top coats.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

 

 

If anyone repaired sun fading of the interior mahogany, is the fading shallow enough that there is a chance of sanding to fresh wood without going through the veneer?

 

We have some fading right around the cabin side deadlights.  It would be easy enough to re-veneer if needed... but I am kind of hoping it is I can squeak by without that...

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

karkauai
 

On Kristy the veneer on the panels around the port lights is ~1mm thick.  Careful sanding shouldn’t be a problem.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Sep 21, 2018, at 11:11 AM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If anyone repaired sun fading of the interior mahogany, is the fading shallow enough that there is a chance of sanding to fresh wood without going through the veneer?


We have some fading right around the cabin side deadlights.  It would be easy enough to re-veneer if needed... but I am kind of hoping it is I can squeak by without that...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

greatketch@...
 

If anyone repaired sun fading of the interior mahogany, is the fading shallow enough that there is a chance of sanding to fresh wood without going through the veneer?

We have some fading right around the cabin side deadlights.  It would be easy enough to re-veneer if needed... but I am kind of hoping it is I can squeak by without that...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

 

I once was with the largest group of furniture manufacturers in the US. We owned companies like Drexel Heritage and Henredon. I would place Amel's interior construction and finish with some of the best.

I saw an Amel light-finish interior. I didn't like the appearance because it was plain and plastic-looking. The species of wood and veneer Amel used with this "light finish" had very little character. It almost looked artificial, similar to a manufactured laminate. There are people who prefer this stark neutral look and that market is growing. Possibly this is what was referred to earlier. 

There is no way to get the beauty and character of the Amel interior without using veneers. Also, it is evident that someone at Amel has excellent skills  in the initial selection and layout of veneer  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 23:13 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi. Be encouraged Paul. Plywood is much stronger than solid timber because of the grains in each ply lying differently. And good Maine ply uses very good glues to hold it together

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 21 September 2018 at 15:40 "Paul Stascavage pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Kent and thank you to you as well Alan. I don't know why, but for some reason I thought everything was solid Mahogany.

Looking more closely at the hand holds it is evident that the bulk heads are not.

I learn so much being a part of this forum, but this is one piece of information I almost wish I missed.

All the best,

Paul
SM #466
S/V Rita Kathryn
Cruising New England



 


 


Re: model number of CAT pump on watermaker.

Paul Stascavage
 

Eric,

The CAT pump model is 277. I just replaced mine.

Make note that the one I received had NPT threads on all the plumbing ports. The original on our boat was also NPT with the exception of the high pressure outlet port that feeds the membrane connection. The original pump was metric.

All the best

Paul

SM #466
S/V Rita Kathryn

Currently Cruising New England


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ian you are a Genius

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks, Eric,


 Sorry you missed out on the beer. I will have one for you--here in Brazil where we have just been in the Pantanal, swimming in rivers full of cayman and piranhas. Amazingly, they keep their distance but the piranhas are easily caught with a line, any hook and a lump of meat. Not much flesh on them but they do make good sushi.


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Greece


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 21 September 2018 04:40:21
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ian you are a Genius
 


I had to take the end caps off again today. I thought i would try your method. It is absolutely
the best !!!

No more vises
no more water pressure
no more strap wrenches.
Beer was not necessary.
I didn't think it would be so easy--absolutely amazing.
Thank You !!
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite


On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 07:46 AM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Alternatively.....take a short piece of webbing and make a loop, trapping the ends of the loop onto the end cap with a jubilee clip.  Sit down in the cockpit with a beer. Put the loop over a cleat on the mizzen mast and give the tube a sharp tug.  Bingo! (  only two hands needed and you don't get wet ! )


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Greece


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of michael winand mfw642000@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 23 August 2018 06:21:08
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Easy and novel way to remove membrane end caps.
 


Nice method 
Michael 


On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 at 12:46, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 


Once you have the membrane assembly apart disconnect the membranes from each other. Put a 1/2 inch tubing over the hose nipple with a hose clamp. This is connected to a water supply, dock or boat water, turn on the water. Let the air escape and then put your finger over the hole where the water is escaping. 

Hold the hole closed with your finger. As the water pressurizes the vessel  the end caps will slide out due to water pressure . Just hold the loosest end cap  in place until the second one comes out.
Easiest way yet to remove the end caps. 3 hands is helpful.

Oh don't forget new O rings.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 05:33 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... 





Ian you are a Genius

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi. Be encouraged Paul. Plywood is much stronger than solid timber because of the grains in each ply lying differently. And good Maine ply uses very good glues to hold it together

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 21 September 2018 at 15:40 "Paul Stascavage pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Kent and thank you to you as well Alan. I don't know why, but for some reason I thought everything was solid Mahogany.

Looking more closely at the hand holds it is evident that the bulk heads are not.

I learn so much being a part of this forum, but this is one piece of information I almost wish I missed.

All the best,

Paul
SM #466
S/V Rita Kathryn
Cruising New England



 


 


Re: Interior wood quality

Paul Stascavage
 

Thanks Kent and thank you to you as well Alan. I don't know why, but for some reason I thought everything was solid Mahogany.

Looking more closely at the hand holds it is evident that the bulk heads are not.

I learn so much being a part of this forum, but this is one piece of information I almost wish I missed.

All the best,

Paul
SM #466
S/V Rita Kathryn
Cruising New England


model number of CAT pump on watermaker.

eric freedman
 


Re: Cabin Sole and Floorboard - Padded Mounting/Spacing Tape

greatketch@...
 

Jer.

Not sure exactly what you have on your boat, but we added UHME Polyethylene tape (like this: https://amzn.to/2DgJhFr) to the bottom of our floorboard hatches, primarily to protect the finish of the other parts of the floor as the hatches are moved around.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA

 


Re: Surveyor in France

s90.simon@...
 

Hello
Good sign that everyone agrees about who is the best. I have actually contacted Olivier and got some information from him and a few days when he is available. Hopefully it will be possible to find a day that works for everyone involved when (and if) the time comes for a survey of this boat.

Thank you all for your help.

Best regards
Simon


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Surveyor in France

Peter Jaeger
 

Hi Simon
Welcome to the forum
I had Olivier as surveyor for my SM in Sardegna in 2015, a report in perfect english and a list with recommended work combined with a cost estimate as result. Since my boat is in La Rochelle now I consulted him again for special questions.
You can look for alternatives, yes. But why, if you already know the very best? 
Best regards
Peter
SY Wilson, SM 003, La Rochelle

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Am Mittwoch, September 19, 2018, 12:19 schrieb s90.simon@... [amelyachtowners] :

 

Hello

This is my first post in this group and I just want to start by saying hello to everyone. 


I'm planning to buy an Amel Santorin and are currently looking at one located in Vannes. I would appreciate some suggestions for a few different good and competent surveyors that have experience with Amel.


I understand that Olivier Beaute in La Rochelle is considered to be very good but I would like to have some more alternatives. They must be able to speak and present the written report in english.


Best regards 

Simon

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Mizzen Track End Fittings

 

They are not Antal...they are Lewmar Size 1 Simple End Stops.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:35 PM Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The end fittings on my SM2K 414 are made of a plastic type material and
fixed in place by two bolts. They need to be replaced due to UV damage.
I have looked through the Antal catalogue and I don't see such fittings
listed. Maybe they are made by someone else? Does anyone know who makes
these please?

Ian Shepherd

Leros Greece


SM Mizzen Track End Fittings

Ian Shepherd
 

The end fittings on my SM2K 414 are made of a plastic type material and fixed in place by two bolts. They need to be replaced due to UV damage. I have looked through the Antal catalogue and I don't see such fittings listed. Maybe they are made by someone else? Does anyone know who makes these please?

Ian Shepherd

Leros Greece


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Series Drogue Construction Details-from someone that used it

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Isotemp Basic with double engine water coils

Craig Briggs
 

Then again you may be sure Amel sized the Generator to match the load and by changing the original Amel design to a water heater with two engine water loops the generator will not be loaded optimally. 

As Bill Rouse says, don't try to second guess the original Amel design. 

As Nigel Calder says, generators are usually quite under-loaded making them inefficient and prone to excess wear.

Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN68

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