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FW: Climma has got me stumped

Mark Erdos
 

Forgot to say, I got this from Climma’s web-page,

 

The high pressure switch device is snapped more than three times. Check the sea water circuit, switch off and then switch on again the system by means of the panel. If this happens again, call the Assistance Service.

 

Has anyone been down this road?

 

The unit is working again, but this is not the first time this has happened. Once it starts to run, it seems to be happy. It is getting to be a real pain to have it so finicky.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

From: Mark Erdos [mailto:mcerdos@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 2:04 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: Climma has got me stumped

 

 

The rear AC unit aboard our boat has always been the most finicky when the strainer is dirty.  It is the first to get the HP error and normally I can change the strainer to make it happy. There are times when the entire AC system needs to be flushed and I can normally tell by the exit stream.

 

However, this is a little different. I am getting an HP error within a few minutes of start up. The system is really clean and I have an excellent jet stream of water exiting the boat. The other two units are working like champs.

 

The cooling pipes n the rear unit around the compressor feel normal. The top coil is hot, the lower coil is warm when the unit runs. After it give the HP error and shuts down, the coiling tubes instantly feel cool meaning I have a good flow of water.

 

Does anyone know if there is any other condition that would cause an HP error?

 

I am stumped!

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 


Climma has got me stumped

Mark Erdos
 

 

The rear AC unit aboard our boat has always been the most finicky when the strainer is dirty.  It is the first to get the HP error and normally I can change the strainer to make it happy. There are times when the entire AC system needs to be flushed and I can normally tell by the exit stream.

 

However, this is a little different. I am getting an HP error within a few minutes of start up. The system is really clean and I have an excellent jet stream of water exiting the boat. The other two units are working like champs.

 

The cooling pipes n the rear unit around the compressor feel normal. The top coil is hot, the lower coil is warm when the unit runs. After it give the HP error and shuts down, the coiling tubes instantly feel cool meaning I have a good flow of water.

 

Does anyone know if there is any other condition that would cause an HP error?

 

I am stumped!

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Goit Deck Hatch Lens Reseal

Ryan Meador
 

When I redid the hatches on my old boat, Atkins and Hoyle recommended GE SCS2000 silicone.  It worked great and was still strong and leak-free when I sold the boat 7 years later.  Also at the recommendation of A&H, I used Silaprene (though I'm not sure which specific variant) for attaching new hatch gaskets at the same time and it held up great.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:36 PM eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,
I believe you are confusing Plexiglas with Lexan . Lexan is stronger that Plexiglas but scratches much easier. If it is also not UV treated it will yellow with age. Plexiglas-acrylic is preferred for glazing.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hmm, thanks, Gabriele,  I didn't realize that.  When I ordered the new lens, I was told I could either have acrylic or plexiglass.  Acrylic being stronger, but Plexiglass being more resistant to scratches.

Here's a blurb I just found: Although Plexiglass is a form of acrylic plastic, there are subtle differences between the two types. Plexiglass has the distinction of being harder than normal acrylic which makes it easier to drill and cut without breakage. Additionally, Plexiglass is more chemical resistant than traditional acrylic.

I looked it up on Dow's info page.  Scuffing the acrylic with 80 grit sandpaper, then cleaning with alcohol is recommended with DowCorning's 795.

I'll let everyone know how it turns out.  I'm using DC795 grey color.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy




From: "Gabriele Antolini svsunnyside@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]"
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Goit Deck Hatch Lens Reseal

 
Hi Kent
Acrilic and Plexiglas are the same.
Plexiglas is the trade name given  by the inventor Roehm & Haas ....
Regards

Gabriele
Sunny Side
Maramu #219

On Wednesday, 26 September 2018, 12:33:06 GMT-4, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I’m just about to do one on Kristy, Bill.  It had cracked last year and I had it done professionally by a company in Ft Lauderdale.  They used a clear silicone caulk which leaked a couple months later.

From what I’ve been reading, a glazing sealant by Dow (DC795) is what many professionals use, and what I’m going to use.  My hatch lenses are plexiglass, not acrylic.  I don’t know if DC795 works on acrylic or not.

For what it’s worth, there’s another product called DeBond that was designed to release 3M’s 5200 sealant.  I used it to get the hatch frame off of the deck and it made that job, and cleaning the old sealant off of the frame MUCH easier.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243
 
There is a specific silicone for bonding acrylic to aluminum. I forgot which one it was. Last time I called GE silicone division and they gave me the number it is not your regular silicone. Also when I rebuilt my last boat I spoke to the people at Atkins Hoyle. They recommend to prime the edge of the Plexiglas and the frame with toluene . It made the surfaces very sticky and the hatches never leaked. I also used under the genoa cars and the silicone stuck like crazy to it...  Be careful as it is very toxic.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:02 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 
Has anyone else had the need to re-seal the lens into one of the Goit deck hatches?  I just had one pop loose.

I've reset the lenses of other brands before, bedding them down in silicone, but just wondering if anyone knows of anything "unusual" about the Goit hatches?

Thanks!

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA



Re: Is this the end of an era?

Ian Park
 

The 50 is indeed a lovely boat with many of the cherished AMEL features.
We toured it at the Southampton boat show and given a magical windfall would have been the boat we would have chosen to order.
From my own limited ocean cruising perspective, I have learnt to appreciate the attributes of a ketch. I also like the two bow lockers, the vast cockpit locker and the port side ‘Liferaft’ locker which are absent on the 50. Most importantly my 3 year old grandson is able to run all through my Santorin with handholds within easy grasp everywhere. Guess the SM is the same. The 50 needs some additional heavy weather poles down below for an older guy like me to feel secure.
However, a very nice boat and given the price of buying a new one I am very happy about the stability of the re sale value of my current AMEL.
They have to be competitive to survive and it immediately got Cruising Boat of the Year. So hats off to the AMEL team.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Is this the end of an era?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

With regard to the "genetics" of the 50:

7 watertight compartments
Retractable bowthruster
Painted Amel furling mast
Watertight engine room accessible from the bridge only
Large aft lazarette
Semi-enclosed cockpit
Power-everything from the cockpit, no need to ever step out
Same electric system as always, "floating"
Same electronics as always, Pochon > Furuno+B&G
Same cable-driven steering

We toured the 50 in Hyères in April and as soon as one steps into the engine room it is the familiar setup as always, down to the same greywater bilge pump we all are familiar with.  Except the space is significantly larger.

LOA is 16.5 meters, by the way; this boat is no smaller, no matter what the "50" branding may say.  Everything is larger and there is much more storage space than in, say, a Super Maramu.  Except for the fresh water.  Oh well, fire up that watermaker!

The 50 is the modern version of what an Amel looks like.

Cheers,


Peregrinus
SM2K n. 350 (2002)
Monastir





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

sharona246@...
 

78x AMEL 55
20x AMEL 64

Best
Lior
SHARONA, A54 #18


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In-mast furling motor 1988 Maramu

JOHN HAYES
 

Hi Graham

My Santorin 1991 probably has the same units

But it’s not clear what the motors are .... probably a small truck starter motor but they were quite easy to overhaul and replace the brushes and bearings

Getting the bearing off the shaft required professional help from someone who had a hydraulic press as I recall

The gear box they drive is a standard bonfiglioli unit available here (NZ) from the company for about Us$300
Best
John Hayes
Nga Waka
Wellington NZ

On 2/10/2018, at 3:39 AM, Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

Does anyone have specifications, wiring diagrams or mechanical drawings
for the in-mast furling motor that was installed in the Maramu c. 1988. 

Mine has failed and, despite efforts with brushes, I think it needs a
rebuild.  Any information, guidance or experience would be very welcome. 

Kind regards

Graham CRESSWELL
S/V Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu: Cabin light fuse location?!

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for his Bill. 
I really need something like this
I reworded my last boat and labelled everything loudly. It was a real help even though I knew the systems well

I think having a supply of cable ties you can label will be on my Christmas list!

All the very best
Miles


On 26 Sep 2018, at 13:32, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Miles,

It is always a problem to follow a previous owner who either did not document changes and/or did not label wires. I am sure that you will act differently. The best way to label a wire is with a white sleeve over the wire, but that is not always possible. I found some wire-ties with a label tag that helped me.

There are all sorts of styles of these attachable labels. Here is a link to one of them: https://www.amazon.com/Amgate-Write-Ethernet-Marking-100pcs/dp/B0153CAU2M

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:56 AM smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Just to say that I’ve now managed to trace the problem. 

Luckily one of the cabin lights had new cable with  unusual colours so I managed to follow that to locate the fuse 
Sadly these lights are sharing with other equipment so it’s another job on the to-do list which only even seems to grow !

All the best

Miles 


On 26 Sep 2018, at 10:47, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello there

I’m on day 2 of a low value treasure hunt.

I’m hunting for a fuse for my cabin lights

I did something stupid trying to fix the fridge light which must be wired into the same circuit so the cabin lights are now out.
Lights in the forepeak, both heads and aft cabin are fine fortunately.

I suspect that all the older Maramus have been adapted over the years and have fuses in different places but in case there is some hidden nook I’ve not yet discovered . . . .

I’ve tested all fuses in and around the circuit board area and behind the chart table, hunted in the engine bay, looked under the mast step and poked about all manner of dark corners but still lights are out

The lights must be wired direct to the battery as there is sadly no main switch to follow from.

Any thoughts about hidden areas I should explore would be very welcome !

All the best

Miles



Re: Galley Refrigerator Malfunction

Jose Venegas
 

Ian, 
You were correct!  I rewired the fan and problem solved.  Not a bad idea to have a spare controller but its no longer urgent.  

Thank you and thanks to Bill, Michel for the suggestions and info.

Jose

Ipanema SM2000 278
Boston


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Thank you Bill That was very helpful

Best Regards

Heinz

 

 

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Montag, 1. Oktober 2018 15:44
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

 

 

Made by Filmtec

SW 30 2540 (2.5"X 40")


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 06:14 Heinz Stutenbäumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160.. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292


In-mast furling motor 1988 Maramu

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

Hi all,

Does anyone have specifications, wiring diagrams or mechanical drawings
for the in-mast furling motor that was installed in the Maramu c. 1988. 

Mine has failed and, despite efforts with brushes, I think it needs a
rebuild.  Any information, guidance or experience would be very welcome. 

Kind regards

Graham CRESSWELL
S/V Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

 

Made by Filmtec
SW 30 2540 (2.5"X 40")


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 06:14 Heinz Stutenbäumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160.. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

Sv Garulfo
 

Does anyone know how many 55 and 64 were built?

Fair winds,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 


On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 05:46, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I was told the last 64 has been sold. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 04:38 divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The 64 is still on the site....

I've emailed Amel to ask what the story is..and why ....
Let's see what they say....
Alan
Elyse Sm437
Baie de Carenage


Dessalator Membrans

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

 

I was told the last 64 has been sold. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 04:38 divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The 64 is still on the site....

I've emailed Amel to ask what the story is..and why ....
Let's see what they say....
Alan
Elyse Sm437
Baie de Carenage


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

Alan Leslie
 

The 64 is still on the site....
I've emailed Amel to ask what the story is..and why ....
Let's see what they say....
Alan
Elyse Sm437
Baie de Carenage


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

Bob Grey
 

Bill, yes I believe Amel has discontinued both the 55 and 64, looks like Renaissance 3 will be my first and last Amel ketch.

I think they are intent on building modern sloops from now on.😢.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3

On Monday, October 1, 2018, 13:53, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

I was just looking at http://Amel.fr  and was very surprised to see that only two models are listed, the 50 and the 64.


Has the 55 been officially dropped from production?  That would certainly explain why it is not on display at either the Newport nor Annapolis boat shows.


I really don't feel that the 50 or the 64 come from the same "genetics" as the Sharki, the Maramu, the Santorin, or the Super Maramu, despite superficial similarities in appearance. Certainly the 55 is a very different boat that any of the older models, but I can still follow a path to see where it came from.  I know things change, and I certainly do not pretend to understand the worldwide sailboat market, but still I feel like something is missing. 


I certainly do wish Chantiers Amel well, but it seems they aren't building my boats anymore. 


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

St Michaels, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Winter location Greek Ionian

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thank you Dean.

Respectfully;


Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54#099

On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:28 PM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mohammad,
We also give a vote to Cleopatra Marina near Preveza for winter storage. We have wintered our boats there for 3 seasons and are very happy with the service and facilities. They are quite familiar with Amel 54.
Cheers
Dean and Jan
SY Stella
Amel 54 #154


Is this the end of an era?

greatketch@...
 

I was just looking at http://Amel.fr  and was very surprised to see that only two models are listed, the 50 and the 64.


Has the 55 been officially dropped from production?  That would certainly explain why it is not on display at either the Newport nor Annapolis boat shows.


I really don't feel that the 50 or the 64 come from the same "genetics" as the Sharki, the Maramu, the Santorin, or the Super Maramu, despite superficial similarities in appearance. Certainly the 55 is a very different boat that any of the older models, but I can still follow a path to see where it came from.  I know things change, and I certainly do not pretend to understand the worldwide sailboat market, but still I feel like something is missing. 


I certainly do wish Chantiers Amel well, but it seems they aren't building my boats anymore. 


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

St Michaels, MD, USA


Re: Winter location Greek Ionian

Dean Gillies
 

Mohammad,
We also give a vote to Cleopatra Marina near Preveza for winter storage. We have wintered our boats there for 3 seasons and are very happy with the service and facilities. They are quite familiar with Amel 54.
Cheers
Dean and Jan
SY Stella
Amel 54 #154